Tech Tree Talk - Pan-American Cruisers - World of Warships Blitz

We're getting yet another tech tree line of light cruisers - which, as a light cruiser main, makes me rather happy. So let's jump in and do a quick tour of what's coming up, new mechanics, and a round in the T7.

[@jcwoodman5285]

Ohhhhh my Atlantico needs combat instruction to go with the bug-less turrets 😊

[@FunandGameswithTerry]

s/Atlantico/GK

[@m1xtin]

You damn well know i’m going to grind this line at some point, *San Martín here I come* 🎉

[@FunandGameswithTerry]

I'm testing the T10, review should be there next week.

[@COMMANDER-wm9vr]

It's interesting that these ships are getting combat instructions, which I also doubted that the combat instructions would never reach Blitz. All in all, I actually played La Argentina, the Tier V ship of the Pan-American cruiser, and I had a blast. Soon, we can expect the Spanish cruisers to arrive. Well, more like next year.

[@Based_Lord_Humongous]

I'm hoping they will rerelease La Argentina soon. I'd buy her simply for being unique

[@SamGrey]

0:58 trying to set precedence for the vampire I see 😅

[@BlackUKCRF]

Good Video - thanks Terry and as always greetings from Germany 🇩🇪

[@ottaviobasques]

I find funny the fact the tier 9 cruiser is called Santander, the name of a bank company here in South America. By the way, it seems the combat instructioms slightly reduce the reload time when activated.

[@m1xtin]

so it wasn’t just me, I thought that name seemed familiar😂

[@kardy12]

Well, it’s originally a Spanish bank named after the city of Santander in Spain.

[@Contreras1991]

Im still baffled that wg gave chile an italian cruiser, chile never had dealings with the italians, only the british and the americans

[@ignatius_rage]

Well, the good news is, it doesn’t look like this will break the meta. It appears to be in-between the British light cruisers and the American light cruisers. Honestly, my first impression is that I would rather play either the British or the American over this, but time will tell. Thanks, Terry

[@FunandGameswithTerry]

I think it's an interesting addition. I quite like both USN and RN CL lines (but then, to be fair, I like all CL lines), and I'd always be happy to play another support cruiser.

[@justin3415]

Great video Terry and info

[@Evilship994]

Nice video looking forward to see ship wise reviews

[@romaint5608]

The AA range on the T10 is the same of the Worcester, that's very good point. The damage AA is more low, but with a range improvement (AA range on slot 3 and perhaps 1), we can have a other good AA platform ship. I'm very curious about the AA of the T8 and T9. I think try this line, seems funny to play and really not over power (no nerf to expect 😂).

[@FunandGameswithTerry]

Just from the numbers, for me, an AA build is probably over-specialised. I'll need rudder shift in 3, I think, but we'll see. Definitely nice to have more AA cruisers in the field

[@stevenmoore4612]

Oh yeah I remember watching flamu’s hilarious video on this ship line for PC! Basically after tier 7 it turns into the “It can be assumed” line of make believe Worcesters that “could have been” sold to to South American counties after the war! 😂

[@FunandGameswithTerry]

Well, at this point, there aren't any major navies left to introduce, so you got to start making stuff up... most of the Pan-Asian lines are in the same boat (pun intended)

[@stevenmoore4612]

@@FunandGameswithTerry Yeah that is true they are running low on real ships. However, there were a few proposals submitted to Wargaming by South American players of cruiser lines that were made up of real historical ships all the way to tier 9 with 10 being a concept design. It’s almost as if they completely ignored the proposals sent to them and just copy pasted already existing ships and threw them into a tech line.

[@worldofwarshipsblitzwithde1559]

I think this will be a good addition to the game. I like to see the combat instructions with bigger guns, and I wonder if that will come with the Louisiana line in December. Awesome game and can’t wait

[@FunandGameswithTerry]

It's interesting, but at the same time, they're very powerful. I see the CIs as RR/PA combos with pen boost - they'll need to be really careful which guns to give that to ;) But I'm glad to see new mechanics like this added.

[@gleamingcolt]

These ships look kind of exciting, I don’t know why, but I am kind of excited for these ships Hopefully they don’t well, suck when they are released (like the British Heavy cruisers were and are)

[@buzinga935]

Love the videos and the useful information that comes with them sir. Could you do one on the z42 one day? Would love to see what you think about it.

[@FunandGameswithTerry]

that's on my list, I think

[@johnnyzippo7109]

As disappointing as the nationality and naval flag is I am holding off on the U.K. battle cruiser split line for a a few months of silver, blue prints & free Xp grind to get up to at least TVII day one of tech tree launch. Notes : The “Pan - American “ navy’s were very well equipped with the very best of WW2 era USN ships including CV’s . Many USN cruisers found themselves serving in “Pan-American “ navies and one being quite “famous - infamous “ and very likely the reason for the generic flags .

[@user-fb7lj7nq4k]

Cant waitttt

[@johnnyzippo7109]

The “Ignacio Allende “ a Brooklyn Class USN Cruiser proves my point . And clearly this is a serious matter because it is so in the PC version as well . Hint , read up on a certain ship that was a “General”.

[@FunandGameswithTerry]

I'll assume you mean the sinking of the ARA "General Belgrano", and the surrounding controversy. Not sure if that's influencing here - WG certainly has to manoeuvre in legal waters at times, like the Kriegsmarine flag in-game showing the Iron Cross instead of a certain other symbol - but at least from my memory, things around that Falklands action, while still a sore spot, have at least been cleared legally. That said, I haven't looked into that particular conflict in years, so maybe that's a good opportunity for me to brush up again :)

[@johnnyzippo7109]

All of my assumptions regarding this matter stem from past censoring , mainly the Belfast, when after release the Union Jack was removed from the top of the bow superfiring turret and the camo at release being a spot on copy was also modified . Then of course all IJN ships had the bow imperial flower removed . So clearly folks have a lot to say about censoring historic features of the ships in game , especially ones that were real . As always , love the channel and thank you for the reviews .

[@martinsprunk31]

In the description it mentions, the reload is reduced as well (you can actually see a 10% decrease in the recorded battle). 30% faster reload and more pen+accuracy on high tiers seems pretty powerful to me

[@FunandGameswithTerry]

Yes, it's effectively a PA/RR combo skill with added pen. The pen is a double-edged sword though, if you're in a duel with a DD, and you pop the skill to get more shells on target, you also suddenly start overpening. With CI active, they start feeling like the Elbing line's guns.

[@hattrick8684]

Looks like CI reduces the reload as well. It was 5.5 then when active 4.5 or 4.9. Couldn’t tell exactly but it was def less then standard. Wonder if that’s a bug or intended. If intended if the higher tier gives a better boost?

[@FunandGameswithTerry]

That's intended, and yes, the higher tiers give better boosts. It's effectively a RR/PA combo skill with a chargeup instead of a cooldown. I think 30% at T10, from memory.

[@navigator51]

Any idea on how to ackquire the commanders for these PAN American cruisers?

[@kardy12]

Nice, a new use for my maxed pan American commander that I ground to test how the pre-nerf Atlantico without the lvl 12 deck protection skill compared with a post-nerf Atlantico without and with the lvl 12 skill - couldn’t stand touching the Atlantico since then 😂 It seems like a pretty interesting line with its own gimmick. Will be interesting to try out, even for a BB/BC player like myself.

[@FunandGameswithTerry]

I think if you've got some prior experience with British light cruisers, you'll feel right at home. Otherwise, I find (from my very limited testing so far) that the guns have comfortable penetration, and with the skill active, you can take deck shots at battleships without too much loss of damage. Otherwise, bow/stern is always a good target.

[@Autooo22]

It seems like these cruisers have improved AP pen over the RN CL’s based on the low amount of bounces you got on those battleships. I’m not entirely sure about that, but if that’s the case, then this line should be pretty fun.

[@FunandGameswithTerry]

That was my feel as well, the pen seems better. Especially with the combat instruction active, I think they're going to play quite nice. We'll see if they do anything on balancing, wouldn't be the first line...

[@vsok2685]

Combat instructions seems fine here, it shall work. I am interested how they will change Spanish CA when, I don't think that another bran new branch of imaginary cruisers will be added this year to teh blitz, but starting next year 🇪🇸 CA will deliver. In the big game them do

[@mwata1445]

Seems interesting! When you released your first shot, an "hooo" jumped out of my mouth :) I like high velocity shells with lower arcs. Could'nt the tier x be compared to the Mino in some ways?

[@FunandGameswithTerry]

Tier 10 seems like a Mino-Worcester hybrid, almost. I did some very limited testing yesterday, and yes, she can citadel an Izumo through the deck with the combat instruction active. Not reliably, and of course, these are 150s, so not too much impact, but satisfying. One big problem Mino and Worcester share is the arcs; I haven't done direct comparison, but here, they feel better. Interesting line indeed.

[@muhammadhuzaifaazam]

Why not do tier I reviews...eh Terry? 😂😂😂

[@FunandGameswithTerry]

I did actually test the T1, just to see if I could get the 102mm guns to citadel with APCS. Alas, not happening...

[@muhammadhuzaifaazam]

@@FunandGameswithTerry i remember when you made a video of using a max out commander with Tier I cos you had apparently drank too much 😂😂 That was hilarious

[@ZELLKRATOR]

That skill on an German Battleship, Slawa or Incomparable with better APC+ 😂 overpenetration on Vermont's or GK incoming 🤣 Would be hilarious to see in tests, if your penetration is so high, that it's actually useless because all shells fly straight through enemy BBs

[@matthiaswcz]

Combat instruction also gives reduced reload no?

[@FunandGameswithTerry]

Yes. Did I forget to mention that...?

[@hansenkho3835]

Too bad there were no gameplay vs aircraft. Would like to see how effective its AA mate

[@FunandGameswithTerry]

AA seems to be between RN and USN CLs. I'll try to get carrier battles included in the actual review videos.

[@daruma56563]

So if i got 60 hits by main guns, do i get 2 charges of combat instructions?

[@Failure_Engineering]

No, its not stackable

[@FunandGameswithTerry]

once it's "charged up", it won't charge any further. When you activate it, you get the benefits, and once the activation has expired, you'll start charging again. The charge-up is technically unlimited usage, but due to simple math, there's only so many times in battle you'll be able to use it.

[@daruma56563]

So it's like an ultimate gauge in fighting games. Thx for the replies, everyone.

[@mdtransmissionspecialties]

I hope they add submarines eventually

[@FunandGameswithTerry]

Not sure that's going to happen, I feel that'd be a major rework in terms of adding underwater features, but hey, we never know :)

[@xinguan2681]

First

[@explorationandhistorywithethan]

The generic Pan-American flag instead of the flags for individual nations really does bug me. Yikes AP only.

[@FunandGameswithTerry]

AP only is fine, especially if you're already familiar with the Brits. AP here feels punchy, but I completely agree on the flags issue, urgh.

[@johnnyzippo7109]

Unfortunately due to a certain War in the S. Atlantic circa 1982 their will never be the appropriate national flags on the “Pan-American” ships , noting , if they can’t even be named cardinal direction opposite of North American ships , yeah , ain’t gonna happen . Yes for historic reasons it is unfortunate but that is the way it goes and really our S. American brother and sisters are a very important part of the total number of players on the N. American server , so as to prevent folks living in certain “Pan-American” countries from being Geo-Location Locked out of the game , then oh well . I started playing for the historic side of it , but it isn’t worth losing a large group of players over this . Hopefully one day all this non sense will be seen for what it is , non sense , but it is what it is .

[@FunandGameswithTerry]

I might be wrong, but I do remember reading somewhere on the wiki that on PC, you can choose between the fictional "Pan-American" flag, and the respective national flags.

[@enchantedbananas]

Terry, small nit pick. They're called Panamerican because Mexico is in North America and the tier 3, Vicente Guerrero, is a Mexican ship. The destroyers will likely have a gearing class tier 10, also Mexican, called Quetzalcoatl kɛtsəlkoʊˈætəl or ket-sal-co-aht good luck lol

[@FunandGameswithTerry]

I had looked at the flag on the ship (and I really hope they fix that), and it looked like it only reached to Panama. But you're right, it does include Mexico. I'll probably call them "Monroe doctrine ships" when I want to be prickly and trigger people 😂

[@enchantedbananas]

@@FunandGameswithTerry omg TRIGGERED lol. The thing with the flags is probably a placeholder right? I imagine they want to fix that before release. San Martin looked godly in Boblyn's video preview. I'm worried it's going to make my current grind to Wooster and Mino obsolete. Hell even Henri is on thin ice since the combat instructions also gives a reload buff, something i didn't catch you mention in this video. Combat instructions is basically Rapid Reload, Precise aim, and one of the penetration camos rolled into one and infinite charges.

[@wheels-n-tires1846]

​@@FunandGameswithTerry😂Monroe Doctrine ships... You wont! (I dare you😂)

[@ottaviobasques]

Thing with destroyers is that there's so many options to choose. And BBs, well, they wouldn't go past t6.

[@tomheeley5927]

Thanks for the review, how about PamAm cruisers as the short name. I'm Irish so biased but check out a guy called William Brown, an Irish guy known as the father of the Argentinian Navy.