This Fat-Tire E-Bike is the ULTIMATE Solution - Uncovering the Folding Ado A20F Beast

[@MartijnWester]

I love the sounds of the tires when you accelerate! It sounds so massive :D

[@TechMishka]

That sound on asphalt is really satisfying .

[@jasonproctor1943]

Just ordered one of these, and this review has confirmed my research, great review and honest, cant wait to get it now!

[@TechMishka]

I hope you will enjoy the bike a lot

[@thomasduffy1242]

Great review ordered this today on the back of it! Just to clarify some of your points..... If you want a throttle and 350watt motor order the international version, this is only legal in the UK and EU when on PRIVATE LAND. ADO will send the throttle seperate. If you want a EU or UK legal for UK roads and bike paths then order the EU version. EU or UK version can be unlocked, however it will never be able to use a throttle, apart from the cruise option (which is UK legal) and is around 3-5mph. You can however unlock the motor to 350watt to use for Pedal assist this will then make the bike illegal for UK use on roads or bike paths. I contacted ADO before ordering because I work in Driver training, so I cannot afford to get 6 points on my licence if stopped by the Police. Which is the UK penalty for having a E bike that goes exceeds 250 watt and 15mph assisted If you where to have a collision and cause harm, the bike may be taken away and tested to ensure it met UK law requirements. So Its not worth the risk unlocking IMO!

[@TechMishka]

Very valuable information, thank you!

[@dtz1000]

I hope you enjoy being overtaken by other ebikes because that is going to be happening to you a lot in the UK with this ebike.

[@thomasduffy6904]

@@dtz1000it’s not happened yet :)

[@videosern]

​@@thomasduffy6904I was disappointed about the 250w motor. So, I didn't consider buying, even with the intentionally confusing explanation about the torque and 250w motor. This video, either should be edited, or taken down. It almost made me fall in error.

[@ivovass195]

Great review, very useful to include the spec comparison of the direct competitors. Must agree the torque sensor system feels much smoother than the commonly used speed sensors and combined with the high torque output this should be a pleasure to ride. Looks like a good bike that needs only small upgrades to be great

[@TechMishka]

Agreed. I find myself riding it a lot these days. Last achievemt very battery cycle was 74 kilometers, with me and a baby at a rear seat. So quite good. But I was pedaling a lot - time to get in good shape ☺️ The torque sensor is great for controlling the bike at lower speeds.

[@DariuszTech]

Wow. I like it a lot. Thanks for sharing your thoughts about this ebike😊

[@TechMishka]

My pleasure 😊

[@paulbassett2715]

Hi, we've had our Beasts for a few months and have covered 300kms on holiday now. Our bikes came with a throttle in the box, which I've installed and activated through the app for a hybrid drive. Its brilliant. Currently in hilly Portugal and on a mix of flat and steep hills with 16% and 20% gradients, using throttle and pedalling, we're easily achieving 1km per 1% charge. Only issue is that the fat tyres, give a higher ride height so its always out of the saddle to come to a halt. The added weight causes a few issues on restarts on a hill, especially for my wife. Ride quality is superb but front fork has poor rebound damping. If you can suggest a quality alternative and do a video on changing it, that would be fantastic. Regards, Paul Bassett

[@TechMishka]

Awesome summary. I still ride mine too 😀

[@EmercinAlcos]

Which do you prefer? Beast or Air 20?

[@TechMishka]

The Beast. I just like the fatter tires. But it is much heavier...

[@kingofkings89pl]

Hello, I have this bike for couple of days now & I'm really impressed. Brakes are perfect, fat toers are excellent. Weight is not that much for 100 kg strong guy like me ;) 120 km on one battery I don't know if it's true but on 1 supprt level with 1 setting on Shimano tube I got like 10 km distance for 8% of the battery (with sometimes 5 level support of handling hills & sometimes switching to higher at Shimano & support level). I think ot can distance for me 90 km at 1 assistance & 1 setting on Shimano (I think for 100 kg guys it's a perfect score . I got it extra free battery to for ordering now this boke (they got promor for it). So I got 180 km (with no holding back & driving city with easy). Charging battery for me from like 10% to 100% was for around 5 hours of charging. I did also a trip without a battery & only on Shimano support & ot was great experience. I didn't drive it bikes for 5 years & that was tough to handle at forst couple km for My legs but then got it everything set on 1 setting at shimano was perfect at start, then even 2 & 3 & at speeding I did even 6 setting & still feel comfortable! I was thinking about ADO A20 Air, but... To small battery for big guy like me. Only belt not Shimano system so that means you got only one setting on small toers & without energy in battery I bet it can be tough for legs to handle it. Only think great for me that stand out was this "self repair" tiers at Air bike, bit they are not fat, that means driving at woods will be difficult & not Shimano there. That means when battery is out of energy you are on though situation there. & I don't know if Air got this amortization for fron like Beast have & that make a job done, with compare with fat tires make it a huge difference. It feels very comfortable to drive around, all not flat surface don't feel rough for you as a driver. Also what I see it , very great on smaller tires is that it handke turing like a champ. On big tiers you cant be so comfortable with turning like in this bike. Also you feel safe on it, because it's not that small boke, and fat tiers make you feel steady. & Magic happen when you folding this peace of art. It take so much small space. You can take ot everywhere, train, bus, car, whatever you need. You dont take that much space & you still feel compact with it. One more this...did you imagine to drive woth make at the beach near see? Well...with this bike you got it, fat tiers, powerful motor & this excellent technology throttle sensor make ot huge difference. You can drive EVERYWHERE with it , no limits, only yours imagination (you can't do thinks like that woth Aor model , that is designed for city rides). So when you live neer woods, beach this bike open for you many possibilities that was not available before, trust me! ;) 5/5 stars from me!

[@TechMishka]

Lovely review, thank you so much! The only kind of terrain I'd avoid is downhill

[@dtz1000]

You didn't mention the top speed. Are you happy with just 15.5 mph? The older and cheaper A20F model could do 22mph when unrestricted. No chance of that happening on this new one.

[@TheDeastman13]

hi...i've noticed that these ebikes don't come with a charger and i was wondering if you knew of/could suggest which might be a good one for this bike? thanks, in advance...btw...your review helped me to decide which bike to get...thanks again...

[@TechMishka]

They always come with a charger. If you need another one - just message Ado's support

[@TheDeastman13]

@@TechMishka first off, thank you SO much for getting back to me...i was looking at technosom folding ebike and its information...it listed, what seemed to be, everything about the bike. but no charger... i had a hard time getting in contact with them and finally went to the ADO people and asked about it...and they, of course, said the same thing as you did here. i wound up buying the ADO yesterday. a LOT of the reason was because of your video, which i'm VERY appreciative of...it addressed both the pros and cons which told me it was an impartial/non affiliated review...in any case, i'm REALly looking forward to getting the bike this coming week, putting it together and getting out in this beautiful country(the Netherlands) and taking looooong rides. i'm 73 yo...and, while i love the folding bike i have now for short distances, it just isn't easy going longer ones...thank you VERY much for all the help...i wish you and yours health and prosperity...

[@dailymemele]

I bought an ado a20f for 30 pound non runner Put a new controller and 52v 18ah battery i had laying about put a twist throttle on it and bypassed the pas system use my phone for speedo and voltage reader for battery My top speed is 37 mph wich is more than enough its a funny little bike and is awsome fun

[@TechMishka]

👍👍👍

[@dtz1000]

If it can't be unrestricted and doesn't come with a throttle then its not an upgrade to the A20F as that had both of those missing features.

[@andarthome142]

That's tru, i still love my a20f i upgrate it with a 48v 12.8AH battery and it's running fine.

[@dtz1000]

@@andarthome142 I did that too. Gives it a much needed boost.

[@TechMishka]

Good to know you can upgrade the battery!

[@thomasduffy6904]

It can be unrestricted for private land use and a throttle attached. Again for private land use

[@JamesSmith-sw3nk]

How tall are you for size reference?

[@TechMishka]

188cm

[@carlclarke1]

Shimano do not have many 7-speed derailleurs, especially for the higher end offerings.

[@TechMishka]

Yeah. So you may change the cassette too. But 7 is about right for this bike.

[@abmong]

I'm tempted to get the ADO A20F XE. There are other chinese (white label) e-bikes like DongC that go for half the price, but I'd rather spend for a better quality just for piece of mind that the battery won't explode under my butt... The good/bad thing about CE EU version is they have to limit the throttle to bare minimum so you have to pedal. For international version you can basically use the throttle like an E-motor bike, no pedalling required.

[@TechMishka]

Perhaps they still have this backdoor to install a throttle.

[@abmong]

@@TechMishka Did a bit of research and you can unlock the power/speed from 250w/25kmh to 500w/35kmh with the display screen controller. If the CE version doesn't come with the throttle handle then it could be a case of simply buying the throttle handle and installing it yourself. The ADO KZbin channel even has videos showing how to install the throttle 🤫 Other than that it would be some kind of software block. Lucky for me if I do buy it I'll be getting the international version and be using it in Thailand.

[@Hfil66]

You state that the frame has a 10 year warranty but the ADO site only quotes a 6 year warranty for the frame (less for the electrics).

[@TechMishka]

Looks like they've changed their policy. This is sad! Thanks for pointing to this, really important

[@erhan734]

I ordered Engle engine x already. Do you think I was too early to order it before seeing this video? How much quality difference do you feel between engine x and this one?

[@TechMishka]

The difference is mostly about the components, especially the brakes. Performance will be rather similar. The Engine X is definitely having a much more tempting price.

[@erhan734]

@@TechMishka Thanks! Although it is not the most favourable, I guess engine x will be somewhat sufficient and considering the speed limits, I feel that disk brakes would be somewhat ok.

[@dtz1000]

​​@@erhan734 Engine X goes 28mph. This one goes 15mph. Even the old Ado A20F could go faster than the "Beast".

[@erhan734]

@@dtz1000 I think you miss the point, the top speed is rather limited by the country you are in. 15,5mph=25km/h is European legislation rule and Engine X also goes 15,5mph, not more.

[@dtz1000]

@@erhan734 Engine X EU version definitely goes more than 15.5mph. I can assure you of that.

[@WalterKirstein]

Can you please tell me what type pressure should be the tyre wall says inflation to Max 20psi

[@TechMishka]

15 - 20 soubds about right.

[@craigrogers9799]

Great vid. Any chance you can answer a simple question that Ado are incapable of telling me! Do you know the length and diameter of the seatpost so I can see what suspension options might fit before I commit to buying bike. Thanks

[@TechMishka]

It is a 41mm or 40.8. Length is very good - around 40cm

[@EchoEsK19]

Very nice review! Is Air 20 OK for me 105kg 187 cm? Will it help a bit on the 5degrees hills?

[@TechMishka]

Yeah, this will totally fit you.

[@chriswaters-t7b]

So the USA version is 350w and the engwee is 750 watt? Which is better overall

[@TechMishka]

This one has greater torque than some 750-watt motors

[@marcin_karwinski]

It's a pity they haven't put here any better derailleur, especially since it's supposed to be off-road-friendly, as the Tourney they're using is lowest tier in the Shimano stack, has no clutch and the chain is flying up and down, simply dangerously, when actively tackling non-smooth surfaces... even if they wanted to keep BOM low for better profit margins, there are variants from the likes of L-Twoo or Tektro, relatively cheaper but still known brands, that offer chain protecting clutch design for a few bucks more. At this price point, a Deore with clutch design would've made sense if one would want to stick to Shimano. Or maybe SRAM Eagle? One extra niggle - pity it has cables routed below the frame instead of within... one more thing that might be cut or broken when those thick tyres fling the stones off-road. Or just an aesthetic aspect to keep them safely hidden out of harm's reach... Alternatively, it'd be truly funny if they made it with a belt drive instead of this crappy lowest tier Shimano derailleur... that and a proper water protection and this thing would've been far more fun-oriented... Or better yet, if they used this engine in the Air (Beast) with Air's wheels replaced by similar, maybe three-five blade/spoke, cast lightweight wheels. That'd be a blast at approx. 17-18 kilos and 60+Nm on tap in a foldable design! Instead, the Beast comes with subpar if not crap-tastic derailleur even though ADO wants to paint the picture of upmarket offerings and high quality components used differentiating it from the othet chinese competition... and the Air comes with a relatively weak engine that was possibly chosen for its lowest cost and weight combo feature in the components on offer matrix.

[@TechMishka]

Totally agree!

[@DARXiDE7]

Hi there! Nothing about warranty? How much is the warranty for electric motor or torque sensor?

[@TechMishka]

It is 12 months as far as I remember

[@ioanbristow3376]

I'm close to buying the ADO 20 Pro but now I've seen this I don't know what to get? 😵

[@TechMishka]

Get it. A good bike!

[@forstaharrisson2324]

Please how do you remove the battery??

[@TechMishka]

Unlock with the key and pull it out

[@Splinten]

Thanks for the review. Now I'm just really in doubt whether I should choose ADO BEAST or Engine X, which I've also seen your review of. What would you recommend?

[@TechMishka]

I quite enjoyed the Beast model - has better construction and higher grade components.

[@Splinten]

@@TechMishka Thanks I will Go for The Beast 👍🏻

[@dtz1000]

​@@SplintenHow are you liking the Beast? I think you made a mistake going for this throttle-less ebike instead of an ebike with 50% more power and a throttle, but I expect you will tell me I'm wrong.

[@Splinten]

@@dtz1000 Trottle isn’t legal in EU

[@dtz1000]

@@Splinten It is legal off-road. It's a nice option to have when needed or allowed by law. The rest of the time it can be deactivated.

[@teegrizzly39]

Thinking about getting one, but i'm 192 tall, will that be a problem?

[@TechMishka]

You will be fine

[@paulcredmond]

I'm trying to decide on this vs Engine Pro... it's a hard choice. I like the how much lighter this bike is (not that it's super light) but worried 350w isn't going to be enough for my 100kg weight. Concerns over the quality of Engwe, also. Any thoughts?

[@TechMishka]

Better check the NM, as they are what really matters about the power. Concerning the quality - most of their models are similar.

[@pcat1378]

They are exactly the same bike with a different name

[@chriswaters-t7b]

So the Engine Pro (Battery Pack) bike from Engwe is the same exact bike? Which has better support for USA 🇺🇸 buyers

[@Sh0ny9]

So at the end of the day, are you legally allright driving on Uk public roads with this bike?

[@dtz1000]

It is perfectly legal to ride this in the UK although I wouldn't personally pick this one.

[@Sh0ny9]

​@@dtz1000 Any reason for that?

[@dtz1000]

@@Sh0ny9 Many reasons. Look at my other comments on this video to see why.

[@Sh0ny9]

anyway, i took the risk and ordered this bike today.

[@dtz1000]

@@Sh0ny9 Cancel it and get the Engwe Engine X. It's better in almost every way. Power, comfort and top speed are all better on the Engine X.

[@TheDeastman13]

so...now that the bike's under way...a few other questions, if that's ok...one of the things i found attractive about the tech rx2 folding fat ebike was that it had a lock and alarm...is there anything that you know of available for the ADO beast...believe it or not, the stat on fatbike thefts in amsterdam is...are you sitting down? 90%...i read this today in a report in an article that spoke of insurance for fat bikes(which, again, if you have any suggestions i'd love to hear them...though, i'm guessing, since you don't live in the NL, would not be something you'd be in touch with). so...while i AM planning on looking for insurance later today(since it's after MN), i'd still rather avoid the experience of coming out of wherever i'd been and finding my bike gone... though a)i don't live in a'dam and b) didn't plan on ever bringing it there ANYways...my 'regular' folding bike does me fine there...still, i'd like to do my best to keep this bike...so i was wondering about the availability of these items...again. thanks...yours is a much appreciated service...and, while i've never subscribed to a site(aside from musicians), i am about to do that with yours after i finish this to give you SOMEthing back, at least...thanks again...

[@TheDeastman13]

i tried making a donation but it kept rejecting my log in information...i'm sorry...i'm not all that tech oriented...

[@edwardlove4300]

Hope you can help me. I'm interested in an e-bike called FlySpace but I can't find where they are made I've looked all over the net no luck. It's the FlySpace 16 inch 350w motor found on Amazon Japan. If you have time? Thanks in advance, Edward in Osaka Japan

[@TechMishka]

Most likely it is made in China.

[@ElectricCommuter]

It's a great e-bike. I really like it. A 48V version would be great.

[@TechMishka]

Agreed!

[@myvideos5089]

I'm a bike mechanic and my father in law has this bike shaped object. Too heavy for him to lift into car so pointless that it folds. The brakes are dangerously under powered for its extreme weight, have replaced with hydraulic. The chain rubs on the tyre when in lowest gear. Chain also rubs on the hub. Motor burned out after 1 summer of use. Company sent a used wheel as a replacement, had to get them to send another after a lot of back and fourth. New wheel arrived but the wheel nut was cross threaded. Disc was way overtightned on original wheel.

[@TechMishka]

Sounds like you have had a other bike. A20f Beast has been released in 2022 and comes with hydraulic brakes out of the box.

[@myvideos5089]

Thanks for pointing out, ive just checked and he has the ADO A20F+ Fat Tire Folding Electric Bike variation - which is near identical to yours. Im not having a go at your video as i think its rather good and I can't speak on the quality of your bike, but in my experience of the one we have it is of poor design and build quality and have had a poor customer service from this company.

[@Hfil66]

You say that uphill is limited by torque and not power, but is not power merely the product of torque and speed, and if speed is a constant (i.e. limited to 25kph) then is not power directly proportionate to torque.

[@TechMishka]

Well, sounds like you have a point. 👍

[@GT.Bugger]

You conveniently forgot about the Fiido m21 that has a 500w motor and a torque sensor.

[@TechMishka]

Fiido as a brand has been quite disappointing in terms of customer support in the last 2 years. But you are right!

[@GT.Bugger]

@Tech4All I had an issue with my battery, they replied consistently asking me for information so they could find the fault. In the end they sent me a replacement battery with no issues. I have no issues with their customer service or the bike I own.

[@angusdavidson15]

Great review. 27kg is just too heavy to be a folding e-bike. I'm unsure who the target audience is for this bike.

[@TechMishka]

Middle-age people mostly. 27 kg is not that bad imo. The Engwe E gline X is close to 32...

[@dtz1000]

​@@TechMishka Engine X is much more powerful than this, that's why it's heavier.

[@paulgovan3507]

Great - but ADO still refuse to include rear racks on any of their ebikes. I assume it's hard to find a low-cost (non-seatpost) rear rack that can be easily fitted to that rear frame. And why do no ebike testers/reviewers EVER criticize this lack of racks? For the Nth time: ebikes are not a serious form of transport without a rack to transport STUFF. Looking cool but stupid with a back-pack weighing on your shoulders + spine ain't the intelligent way to go in the real world.... Paul G

[@TechMishka]

Thanks Paul! Perhaps this is more of a region-related feature - I always use a backpack. Using a rack will probably involve the need to find a suitable basket or so. Did you.ask their support for recommendations? Maybe you can also check the Ado owners Facebook group

[@inmemory8161]

lol eu only only allows 250 watts no throttle

[@TechMishka]

Yeah...

[@dtz1000]

Yes, it's pathetic. But you can buy ebikes that have over 750W peak power and are still legal. This one here I think has 500W peak power.

[@timothyleonsstudio7897]

Wonder which uk legal bike has greatest peak/torque?

[@dtz1000]

​​@@timothyleonsstudio7897 Probably the Engwe Engine X. Has much better power, speed and comfort than the Ado Beast.

[@NoMoreLies365]

​@@dtz1000the fiido m21 is better.

[@eBoard3R]

⚡🤙🏼⚡

[@TechMishka]

Go go go 👌

[@quickpickle]

Ebike manufacturers.. please stop putting those stupid looking 20x4 fat tires in your bikes. Opt for a 20x3. Looks better, less drag, less weight and still has no off road issues.

[@TechMishka]

Totally agree!