TechConnect | Autel Evo II v3

We welcome Jon McBride back to the RMUS studio to talk about the updated Autel Evo II v3.
#autelrobotics #dronejesus

[@kon8865]

I have always preferred Autel drones because they make the most advanced drones. But Autel has also been putting out incomplete drones, where features are not working as advertised. I have recently bought an Evo 2 Pro Enterprise V3. I have a few hundred flights and understand a little about frequencies and antennas and I will explain here to dissolve any confusion about those things. I have lots of experience with the Evo 2 Pro V1 as I have 2 of them and have done lots of comparing and troubleshooting over the last couple of years with them. The Evo 2 Pro E V3 which should have a 15km transmission I just got barely transmits as good as my Evo 2 Pro V1's, which have a 9km transmission. When you go to the transmission screen on the new Evo 2 Pro E V3, there are no options, the screen is empty, Autel has explained to me this will be done at some update, it has now been 5 months since the drone's been released. The drone is very obviously working on a 2.4Gz signal, that is a short wavelength and should have a 2 inch antenna, just like most all drones up till now. The reason the transmission is barely keeping up with my Evo 2 Pro V1s, is because they put a 4 inch antenna, which is optimal for 900Mhz frequency. 900Mhz Is a longer wave that goes better through walls, when they do the update this will be an amazing drone yes, for now, if you've had an Evo 2 Pro V1 in the past, you will feel quite dissapointed. I do get real flight times of a little over a half an hour compared to 25 minutes which everyone always exagerrates, so Autel did real good there yes. So Autel put out a new drone with supposed frequency switching, but it's not doing any of that yet and the antennas are optimized for 900Mhz, which the drone is not working on, because if it was working 15km with 900Mhz would be amazing in the city yes. Of course at 900Mhz you then get a slower waves, hence slower data transfer, so I'm not even sure if they can transmit data at 1080 at that frequency, I would be fine with 720 resolution at 900Mhz, I still see power lines good on the bright screen, right now it is 720, I can easily tell, they havent updated that either. Respectively, a 4.8Gz transmission or 5.8, would be optimas with about an even shorter antenna probably closer to 1 inch, with makes it easier to fit inside your cellphone as you go up with Ghz :-). This is a very disappointing thing that Autel is doing and I hope they do the update for the transmission soon. I paid 5k for this thing and that was one of the main reasons I bought it for. Autel has also released a new drone with something very important not working as advertised. They kept my drone in repair for weeks so I got my money back from Blue Skies, who I bought it through. I then got the same drone through Amazon and found that the feature is not working on that one as advertised either. I have considered sueing Autel but I have always liked and supported Autel, and would prefer not to do this. If Blue Skies does not end the bank case against me I will tell everyone here what this feature is a lot of people would be upset, and I would hurt Autel, I would prefer not to do this. I hope they do an update to fix this soon.

[@adriandoko]

Very informative and resourceful. Thanks for sharing.

[@DT-gun]

John sold me my Matrice 210rtk v1 back in 2017-18 time frame. Glad to see him move onto the Autel team.

[@stanleywolf4807]

Bought the autel evo3pro v3 rugged bundle the drone has performed beautifully in a city environment so far been flying it in the Philippines for about a month now seems to handle the hot climate glad I purchased this drone the yaw is alittle jerky sometimes but over all I like it better the my magic 3 pro it will fly at least 10 km have flown to camiguin island near my home and back also works well with drop system for fishing

[@kon8865]

This weekend I flew the Evo 2 Pro Ent V3 in some stronger winds, with longer arms and larger motors you would hope it would perform better then an Evo 2 Pro V1. It did not, it would slow down and drop altitude and even gave me tilt warnings instead of wind warnings. They have not even programmed the FC good for the wind, this is terrible. They need to do a serious update for the FC. I've flown my Evo 2 Pro V1s in powerful winds that wanna knock you over, nothing can take that thing out of the sky, the winds yesterday were not even close to that strong and the Evo 2 Pro Ent V3 sucked badly. It took them till June 6th 2022 before they had the final FW update that gave us dual stability on the Evo 2 Pro V1 also, thats 2 years after the drone was released. So thats how long we might be waiting before they fix things with this one. I'm starting a drone company and I can't even do serious filming with this drone because the dual stability is what got the Evo 2 Pro V1 real close to the Mavic, as far as smooth flying for filming goes. So at this time if I was doing serious filming, I would still actually be using my Evo 2 Pro V1 drone. Autel is focused on making money pushing the Evo Max 4T now and other products and is taking their time with this drone poeple spent 5K of their hard earned money on. And lastly, can we please stop beating around the bush with these useless accessories and make a drop arm like we know that that's what everyone wants. Can someone who knows electronics please rewire one of those useless accessories they give us and make a drop arm. I would be willing to pay handsomly for one.

[@stanleywolf4807]

great video right now looking to buy a new drone after my dji mavic 3 was stolen have owned 4 mavic drones and the mavic 3 worked great at night helping a local police department find a suspect in the long grass. i work for a towing company that tows for 3 different police departments trying to get them to buy a drone so when i can was showing them what the mavic 3 can do .looking forward to showing them your evo2 v3 enterprise model as soon as my insurance company sends my check for the stolen drones i lost here

[@londenard]

Drone Jesus!!!

[@ngaoutdoors4157]

My Evo 2 dual v1 runs on 2.4 and 900 lol I got lucky and it’s 100% lucked up and got smart controller also!!

[@discob61350]

Why not make a mechanical shutter payload?

[@itoothitooth4943]

I wish Autel would be more specific about which V3 units they discuss. Such as the consumer V3 unit vs the enterprise V3 unit. There is a difference yet not well expressed. This video clearly shows the enterprise units with their attachments that the consumer V3 does not have. This is a big difference. I would also like to see Autel 's website have a detailed user manual or video on how to use and adjust the setting in their Explorer App. Not just a description of the external buttons on the SE controller.

[@RMUSUAV]

Our on demand training program for the Evo II has a video that goes through all the features of the remote. That program can be purchased here: www.rmus.com/products/autel-evo-ii-on-demand-training

[@RMUSUAV]

You may also find this video from Autel useful: kzbin.info/www/bejne/jYKkc5Sen96Zatk

[@itoothitooth4943]

Thanks for the information. However, with all do respect, I should not have to pay for such information. This should be provided by Autel to people who bought their product.

[@RMUSUAV]

@@itoothitooth4943 Have a look at the second video I responded to you with to see if that is more helpful. I'm not sure what you may be looking for specifically, but online training programs are extremely common in the industry. We offer it so that people have the option. We're just a UAV distributor trying to enhance the customer experience. Hope some of the info provided was useful.

[@itoothitooth4943]

I understand. It just that Autel should provide the information.

[@alumahomeinspections7009]

Hi, What can you tell me about the geofencing feature (NFZ) inserted on the firmaware of the EVO 2 V3, that work in a "advisory" way now with pop windows warning you about restricted areas, but can go to "mandatory" at any time preventing flying like DJI's drones?. Thanks

[@RMUSUAV]

We have not been made aware of the reasoning for these changes. Feel free to contact Autel regarding this question: [e-mail]

[@Diantane]

What is the extra lights and other device on top of the above drones? I don't see them on the v3 drones.

[@RMUSUAV]

These are the accessories that are only available on the Enterprise model of the EVO II V3. www.rmus.com/cdn/shop/products/20_720x.jpg www.rmus.com/products/autel-robotics-evo-ii-enterprise-rugged-bundles-thermal-and-6k

[@uniteddroneservicesllc7184]

I have the Evo 2 pro v1. I set the max height to 394 ft and I get a max height warning guess off at 98 ft and will not ascend any more. My max speed is 22mph and ascending and descending speed do not stay locked in

[@mmbodnar]

I picked up a new RTK V2 one month before they switched to V3... V2 didn't last long on the market. I should have waited. How does MSRP compare between V2 and V3 at launch?

[@RMUSUAV]

Actual figures can fluctuate from time to time, but our team can answer any price questions you may have at any time. Hit them up at [e-mail]

[@captainkhakis9826]

So I have an original Autel Evo 1, frikkin loved this thing. First drone. Spent alot of money on it. Got dozens and dozens of flights with it. However about a year ago the remote decided it didn't want to charge anymore which made the aircraft obsolete. The aircraft will charge and fly fine, it's just the remote. ANY input would of enormous help. Thanks so much

[@RMUSUAV]

Unfortunately, the first generation EVO entered end of support in the summer of 2022, but what you could do is purchase a replacement remote online and pair it with your existing craft. It looks like there is still some back inventory in a couple places. You might try this: shop.autelrobotics.com/products/drones-accessories-evo-ii-remote-controller-v1-refurbished You may be able to find a deal on eBay also.

[@captainkhakis9826]

@@RMUSUAV thanks. I spoke with Autel, they do have replacement remotes, so it's not a total loss

[@PortLudlowRealEstate]

I purchased the V3 recently and I love the results I have seen from my footage...HOWEVER...It takes actual DAYS to charge the remote. That has caused so many missed opportunities for me. Can I actually expect resolution of this problem or have I wasted $2495 on a wonderful aircraft that I cannot fly?

[@RMUSUAV]

It definitely shouldn't take that long to charge. The best advice we can give you is to make sure that you are only using the charging brick included with your Evo case. For fastest charging on that remote, use the middle USB C port (the one that has an led halo) with the included USB C to C cable. Using a different brick or a lower capacity cable would definitely result in a longer charging time. You may also want to plug the Autel charging brick directly into a wall outlet instead of a power strip that may be sharing capacity with other devices. If you are still experiencing slow recharge speeds after trying this, we would definitely recommend that you reach out to your dealer or Autel themselves. For any hardware problem of this nature, they would be eager to correct the issue.

[@jjallday404]

Can the EVO II DUAL 640T V2 use mapping for IR images? Standard 90 degrees. All I need the mapped images I can stitch in another software.

[@RMUSUAV]

This video is actually about the Evo II Enterprise V3. However, I did look into your question, and it looks like the remote's built-in software does not support performing mapping missions with the thermal camera.

[@koochooloo007]

Do you have an upgrade programme, so that people who purchased V1 or V2 earlier can send in their Autel V1/V2 bundle and pay some extra money and get an upgraded Autel V3 model instead?

[@RMUSUAV]

Unfortunately, we don't currently offer a program like that.

[@andrewbaerm.d.3984]

What happened to MOST of the Intelligent Modes? I lost my E2P V2 during a smart orbit that never worked well.

[@anonymouse8205]

Small smart controller, compatibility with the nano the only thing I heard they better do it

[@RSI24]

How future proof is the EVO II Dual 640t V2?

[@moemaster1966]

Well I bought the evo lite plus …and I really wished I bought the evo 2 pro v3 instead…

[@buballu]

The Autel Evo 2 pro V3, is it still possible to take pictures and film at the same time?

[@RMUSUAV]

Great question. We just verified here in the studio that you can in fact take photos while the video is recording. Thanks for asking.

[@buballu]

@@RMUSUAV Wonderful, because I have a Mavic 3 that to take pictures I have to stop making videos and that's horrible.

[@dog_army]

Can you please show me some footage of the thermal and when it’s not in thermal

[@RMUSUAV]

You got it. We have a few different videos coming up that will feature thermal footage, so stay tuned!

[@dog_army]

@@RMUSUAV do you think you could send me some videos today because I’m deciding to buy theAutel Robotics Evo II V3 Dual 640T Enterprise Drone or the dji mavic 3 thermal

[@RMUSUAV]

@@dog_army For this kind of question, you should reach out to our team at [e-mail] where they can give you specific advice.

[@dog_army]

@@RMUSUAV yeah but you’re the only one that post videos about it. I just want to see some videos because no one else has ever posted that drone

[@dog_army]

@@RMUSUAV can you please show me videos because I have to decide tomorrow which drone to get

[@afp415]

Are any versions of the Autel EVO II v3 drones "Made in the USA"? I remember reading that one of the v2 models had over 75% of the parts made and sourced from the USA.

[@londenard]

Um where did you read that? Hahaha! Autel is a Chinese company. Period. The Evo 2 Enterprise Duel is partially assembled in the US but the main components are made overseas. This seems like a marketing spin with the "75%" number since the battery, airframe, and remotes are imported. It's like they are saying "the rugged bundle has 20 components, props, case, lights, airframe, remote, batteries, accessories, etc and only the aircraft, batteries, and remote are made in China. 3 things out of 20, so that's less than 25%!!!" Then add the fact that the components are put in the box in the US... aka assembled in the USA! Well heck, that's almost as American as grandma's apple pie and baseball in my book!!!

[@afp415]

@@londenard So after some research this is what I found. It looks like the Autel EVO II Dual is the only one that has the designation for Made in the USA. --- With an airframe from China, IR/thermal cameras from FLIR in the USA, and Sony imagers from Japan, the final product is assembled in Bothell, WA with American labor. “We also source the majority of our bundle components from US manufacturers such as FoxFury, GPC, TacSwan, and others” said DeLuca. “Our software and other components are predominantly also from domestic and NATO suppliers. We’re deeply focused on shifting the product program to a Made in USA direction. We brought in outside consultants to assist us in identifying resources and processes that bring us closer to our American roots.” “We are also proud to share that our solution does not require LTE for operations. Whether intelligent flight, or manual flight, our systems function without connecting to a server inside or outside CONUS, added DeLuca. --- The FTC seems to say it's not enough to just import parts from all over the world and just screwdriver them together, and seems that most of the components need to be from the USA. If you want to read more about the FTC guidelines on complying with Made in the USA standards here is the link: www.ftc.gov/business-guidance/resources/complying-made-usa-standard

[@londenard]

@Aaron P Yea Looked at a lot of that as well... you forgot the battery and remote, which are also made in China. Quite frankly, the airframe-ie drone, battery and remote are the drone. Arguing that parts of the payload are made in Japan or the US is kinda back handed. Not to mention that saying "we're switching the programmers/ coders to guys we relocate from China to the US"... trust me, read a little closer, is also kinda... sus, as the kids say. It's a little know fact that DJI employs roughly 10 times as many Americans as Autel. Not to mention they have several key positions in the company filled by non Chinese nationals. Listen, my point is not to down Autel, they make a decent product, my issue with them is their constant and pervasive twisting of the facts to present the veneer of being an "American" company when it simply is not true.

[@malanalan1]

@@londenard "DJI employs roughly 10 times as many Americans as Autel." Hmm? How do you explain the fact that their user guides/manuals are written in Chinglish?

[@londenard]

@Joe Bloe Um... I've read every manual from every DJI drone I've ever had, and I've had no issue reading and understanding them. I have no idea what you're talking about... sounds pretty racist and xenophobic, to be honest.

[@thriftysurvivor6117]

I've heard of people having trouble accessing 10 bit color in A-Log with the EVO 2 Pro V3. Can you confirm or debunk this?

[@RMUSUAV]

I did not find the 10-bit spec anywhere in the brochure for the V3. It may be possible that only the V2 had the 10-bit option for video while only the V3 had 12-bit for photo, but we cannot verify that because we have only tested enterprise thermal models here and not the 6k models. That being said, on the V2 the 10-bit feature was only accessible at 4k or lower and using H265 instead of H264, which may be the case with other versions if they have it.

[@thriftysurvivor6117]

@@RMUSUAV Thanks for responding to my question the best you could. I really appreciate that. I'm not new to drones in general, but I'm kind of new when it comes to trying to change things in post. Should this 8 bit limit be a deal breaker for someone who intends on using the drone for real estate videography or for clients that require that level of video quality? I understand the image sharpness with this drone appears to be the best when compared to the Mavic 3 and for that matter any other drone in it's class, but being able to adequately manipulate the color science in post may be just as important as image sharpness. Do you have any thoughts on this? Like I said, I'm just getting my feet wet as it comes to messing around with the color science in post so I truly value your opinion. Thanks again, Eric

[@RMUSUAV]

@@thriftysurvivor6117 No problem, Eric. From our observations, the majority of real estate drone footage is not color graded to the level that it would require greater than 8-bit color depth. It should stated that we do prefer higher bit depth whenever we can get it, but it should also be noted that unlike 8-bit video, any Log footage would actually require editing before it looked presentable. The flexibility with that editing is noticeably greater, but is certainly more of a cinematographer's level of praxis. As long as the pilot checks to ensure exposure does not sway too far to either extreme, native footage from the 6k would likely come out fairly acceptable for real estate video.

[@thriftysurvivor6117]

@@RMUSUAV Thanks again for your reply. I'm a perfectionist so I'll just do my best to shoot the videos without over exposing or under exposing. I would expect the variable aperture should also help with being able to make changes on the fly as needed. Up to this point, I've never had the option of adjusting the aperture without bringing the drone in and changing ND filters... Even when changing the exposure settings while changing camera angles on most drones I've flown the steps are not as gradual as to not be noticeable in the videos. There are just not enough steps. I would hope the adjustable aperture would help with that.

[@trinimedia19]

How can someone tell the difference between the V1, V2 and V3 when purchasing?

[@RMUSUAV]

This can be very tricky. Here is an article from Autel: www.autelrobotics.com/articledetail/954.html The most easily recognizable difference between the V1 and V2 is that the V2 has a "V2" printed on its top side. The V3 is easier to tell apart from the others because of the new cooling vents on each side. Great question, thanks for asking!

[@itoothitooth4943]

Good question. Autel is somewhat cryptic about this. Sometimes you see the V1,V2 or V3 on the descriptor. Autel is really pushing to sell the older version models. I have not seen V1 models for sell but old V2 and now V3 models. When you buy from a third party vendor, as Autel won’t sell to you directly (a big mistake in my mind), you have to make sure the vendor’s description of the model is clearly identified.

[@kenhiggins1807]

Hi! I'm looking for a drone that I can carry a 1-2 lb. fishing bait, Has thermal and a speaker that you can broadcast with. Any ideas?

[@RMUSUAV]

The EVO II V3 that we mentioned in this video does feature a thermal camera and can be outfitted with a speaker attachment. However, carrying something like that on the drone would likely void the warranty. It's also worth noting that thermal cameras can't see through water. We recently posted a video that includes a demonstration of this principle: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pmG6p2qhg9GogaM

[@RMUSUAV]

That being said, if you do manage to go fishing with a drone, please send us the video! That would be awesome!

[@kenhiggins1807]

@@RMUSUAV I predator hunt and wanted the thermal for that. No way to carry a fishing line and drop it? I'm not worried about losing the warranty.

[@RMUSUAV]

@@kenhiggins1807 If hunting with the aid of thermal optics is permitted in your state, you'll likely find it useful then. We have used drop systems here at RMUS before, but only on larger aircraft like the M300. There may be some DIY drop systems out there that can be attached to smaller drones though.

[@michianadroneservicesllc858]

Nice, but you failed to say anything about if it's Remote ID capable or can it tell us if there any other aircraft that is near.

[@RMUSUAV]

As of October 2022, the EVO II is compliant. You can see a full list of RID compliant drones on the FAA website: uasdoc.faa.gov/listDocs

[@michianadroneservicesllc858]

@@RMUSUAV Thanks. Now I have to decide between the EVO II or the Mavic Enterprise v3

[@itoothitooth4943]

what is the "database access" in the SE controller? It is in the app and I am prompted to turn it on or leave it off. What is it? I can't find any information on the Autel Robotics Website. Again poor written support of their products. The Manual they publish gives no reference to "database access".

[@RMUSUAV]

If you could send a screencapture taken on your remote of the setting you're trying to access to [e-mail] , we will be happy to assist you further there.

[@itoothitooth4943]

this tells me that you don't know the product. The Database access is a feature in the SE.

[@ZenithPhoto]

Does this drone have a European CE rating? thanks

[@RMUSUAV]

Yes, according to the specs on Autel's website.

[@KimoPollock]

Is it true that there's no type of Autel Care for Enterprise drones?

[@RMUSUAV]

That is true. The Enterprise models do have a warranty period where you can submit a support ticket, but no subscription insurance like what is offered on the non-enterprise models.

[@kon8865]

You kept my drone in repair for months and messed with it, I havent even started talking about that situation here and your repair department.

[@DroneRat01]

I am in the middle of one now. No communication unless you initiate it re: your repair status. Still in "evaluation" status after 2 weeks. No Care offered for the 640T Enterprise. Gimbal refuses to calibrate. They now want to invoice for $1700, obviously not treating it as warranty covered. Without the repair group ever communicating with me in any way, appears as an arbitrary decision. Appealing at this point. Their Service page on their web site says "Coming Soon"

[@kon8865]

@@DroneRat01 Oh Ive been so busy I havent even had time to reply. Youre gonna be dissapointed even worse when you find out in about a week a very important thing that is not working on all Enterprise V3 drones. I used a debit card and I got a debit chargeback when they kept hanging onto my drone. So get a chargeback, a credit company should have a similar process. Then cancel the card right away in case they try to take it back.

[@thriftysurvivor6117]

is cruise control included with the Autel EVO 2 Pro V3 drone?

[@RMUSUAV]

Autel does not currently offer a cruise control feature on the EVO product line.

[@thriftysurvivor6117]

​@@RMUSUAV Sorry to hear hat, It would seem as simple as adding it to an app update.

[@RMUSUAV]

@@thriftysurvivor6117 That can sometimes be true, and we do at times wonder about the possibility of useful features migrating from different products. It might be useful to let Autel know your thoughts on the subject by using their feedback page. Here is a link to where you can make a product suggestion: www.autelrobotics.com/page/contact_us.html

[@thriftysurvivor6117]

@@RMUSUAV Thanks for the link. I have just submitted my suggestion to Autel through the link you provided. 👍👍

[@geo30197]

Tbh at this moment, the dji consumers and enterprise are better ... here in the EU that the dji m3e 3500€ and the rtk module costs 600€ so total 4100€ the autel pro v3 with rtk is 3600€....for me DJI is faster for resolving issues and they listen more to the advice of the people's in the field...and yes I know in the end they are both Chinese drones

[@unclebuck5957]

no footage

[@RMUSUAV]

Now that we have our hands on a model here at our studio, we are putting together some videos to showcase the latest features. What kind of footage would you like to see?

[@TheUpwardbound1]

Lazy money grab. We have been waiting for the Evo 3 not another Evo 2. The 4t Max could have been that! The consumer market built the company yet now they focus on enterprise drones. You guys are messing up. Hopefully you get back in track.

[@kon8865]

And if Blue Skies does not drop the debit chargeback reversal with the bank immediately, by the end of next week I will tell everyone here about a very important safety feature that is not working on one of your new major drones. Many people will be upset and want their money back, and you will lose at least 100 sales, which translates to over a half million dollars. You need to stop standing there BSing people and taking their hard earned money, and provide the things you advertise. One of these drones does not work with all major features as advertised and is a very serious thing.