Techland's Greed is Ruining Dying Light 2...

[@OniZombies]

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[@dixon807]

I feel like the gun problem is like gta 5 and sharkcards you gotta grind and grind for a new car or you could pay like 5 bucks and get it now

[@zombiekillers2024]

Mr negitive

[@PabloHernandez-gl5ij]

Onizombies what was up with that monkey noise at the end did you go completely ape shit?🤣

[@TheSpecialOne000]

Still better than dl1

[@blackister4768]

@@dixon807 No, there's a difference between paying for something you can get by farming and paying something you can't farm. What Techland did is pure p2w useless crap. Paying 5 bucks for a blue pistol is rediculous. Techland prefer to focus on getting money than releasing things accurate to the lore. Like he said in the video, even without Jai's quest you can directly use a pistol or a rifle for your first playthrough after the prologue.

[@sophia_comicart]

Couldn’t agree more. The issue to me is it corrupts previously well meaning creatives, especially if they’re in leadership roles involved in the commercial side of the company. It rots companies from the inside out. They could be a shining light, a beacon for the industry, not a dying one. Pun intended.

[@slidersides]

“Shining light” I see what you did there

[@sophia_comicart]

@@slidersides Shhh… ;)

[@thebeef420]

You're just broke. Dying light 1 had 10x the amount of cosmetic content and yall ate it up lile it's nothing. Just because you aren't being hit with a major update every time does not mean the game is not improved and shining brighter than before, yall are just selfish

[@IlMemetor72]

What is wrong with this studio? It took them so much time and effort to fix and bring DL2 up to par only to piss it away for more money.

[@Mitch_Conner75926]

They’re horribly managed and just a horrible company. Their first game wasn’t anything special and their “dlc” content was basically dozens of reskinned armors lol.

[@TheSpecialOne000]

They don’t how to make video games right ig

[@badr.4558]

​@Mitch_Conner75926 mitch not even respectfully stfu dude ur just a worm who hates everything lol u even hared on goof updates positive shit and now ur saying their first game wasn't anything special get the hell out of here if u dont like this shit

[@BulldogFromHell]

It's actually in a great state. Just don't buy the bundles if you don't like them.

[@Just_a_Piano_]

It is not. The new game is dogshit. I could go play the first game anytime and have a blast. It's more than just a challenge to play DL2 for more than 5 minutes before getting unbearably bored at the lack of love, shitty bundles, corporate greed, and awful updates.

[@Trickfully.1830]

I hate the "it's only cosmetics" argument. People will grind their life away for a special shiny skin in a game, once you start selling shiny skins, it takes a lot away from a game. Selling weapons and time skips is obv super scummy as well, just wanted to point out. Great vid 👍

[@IlMemetor72]

Please add to that: Cosmetics do matter to a lot of people as well- we want to earn that content by playing the game- that's what made games like AC2-AC4 so legendary. When you paywall this shit, and add boring uninspired padding as a means to earn it, that's when you know the focus isn't on making a legendary game- it's about making a profit, at the cost of sacrificing one. To the people who use that argument to downplay our criticisms, I genuinely have no respect for you and I don't even care to read your stupid fucking hate comments which I'm SURE will be here

[@Noah_112]

​@@IlMemetor72I agree as its just a bundle Dl1 had bundles So why do some ppl gotta hate Techland for it? Yes Ppl can Share there own opinion but don't like hate or swear at them making them look like a bad company Techland is the only dev team that listens to our feedback it's kinda sad that every company are invested in money like EA & Activi$ion they are so scummy And money hungry it's bad not only for the ppl that play there games but for the Content creators as well i really hope in the future gaming will be whole again without the without the constant grind but Techland out of all the greedy companies Techland is the Goat 🔥

[@taimetso5297]

So true 😢😢

[@dragosmicu8567]

I actually don't give a flying F about Skins, I can't see them. What I want is an overhaul for the fucking weapon mods. Make them look better, add even more, more weapons, or the same weapon but diffrent look not just another skin splattered over the same weapon. It's stupid and having a brick (fling mod) on my weapon looks goofy asf. To the point where I have naked weapons. It takes more to kill but it looks better. Or just put ice/poison on everything since those don't hide the beauty of a weapon that much.

[@reelzebub4167]

Eh if it's a skin for a weapon or character it's literally not serious at all it's just for those that like to look a certain way

[@AussieGG]

The live service model and it's consequences on the gaming industry.

[@lazyvoid7107]

You have no opinion toxic one

[@honorguard7616]

Lazy, what do you mean even?

[@TheOneButter]

@@honorguard7616ignore him, he’s a shill willing to die on a hill that there’s nothing wrong with techlands practices

[@crimsonomega8310]

Fomo and the fact that they make getting anything take so long is getting real wore out. Can't play as Darth Vader in Fortnite since he was only in a small window of time and a hefty grind that takes you living that game 24/7 or paying just to get him early. Most of the time the games that do this have fun gameplay but they force burnout so you'll fall into the fomo trap.

[@reddeaddude2187]

I knew day one that "Live service" was a damn joke. Any time I hear those words I stay the Hell away.

[@derkitheofficial3306]

You know oni is serious when the camera films his room

[@SPISheste]

You really hit the nail on the head with the "modern day gaming"-trope.. Games are slowly a. becoming a chore b. feels empty if you don't opt for the battlepass / preorder "exclusive" and it's exhausting

[@eigelgregossweisse9563]

A few games are dying... and theyre seeing the last of the light. There's almost no hope about the gaming industry. Aside form the indie games, even then, that's boring.

[@deltaxvs]

Hadn’t played dying light 2 since the release of bloody tides…I wanna get back into it but at the same time…nah..

[@MS-nb2zg]

missing out, theyve added some good updates like the parkour, gore and night updates

[@biggiracc]

​@@MS-nb2zg so all the shit that was promised at launch?

[@ChiliCrispeto]

You aint missing out on much. Trust

[@Mitch_Conner75926]

@@MS-nb2zgThat’s not missing out on anything. The game is exactly the same as it was day one. It’s empty with nothing to do in it besides replay their grind events repetitively or play through their garbage story. Repairing the promised surface level mechanics that should have been in day one is basically irrelevant.

[@HHTwice]

@@Mitch_Conner75926100% accurate. Game still sucks 2 years later with a lot of the same problems since day 1. Techland is worthless.

[@The-dudeguy]

bro i swear that starter pack should be something you buy at jai for like 500 tokens

[@kevinle1083]

Exactly.

[@TheOGkapernick]

If you buy it off Jai, then it’s not a starter pack it would just be a random purchase for when you have nothing else to buy

[@TheOneButter]

@@TheOGkapernickgood

[@bryanthegamer8835]

Currently Dying Light 1 has over 20,000 current players, meanwhile Dying Light 2 it sitting around 4,200 give or take. Its pretty safe to say the game is dying, if not already dead. even Starfield is cooking Dying Light 2 right now by an extra 3,000 players. Techland went corporate and it shows.

[@badr.4558]

Let's be honest dude dl1 yes it's still better but it's not because of that players are more there it's bc of btz an online mode that's a huge thing going on for dl1 if that wasn't the case it would've been sitting right next to dl2,and also we don't only count the steam playwr counts the playstation players too

[@theshagohod]

​@@badr.4558that is completely wrong. Barely anybody plays btz

[@Marco.-]

Because dl1 cost currently 3 euros lol , if not for that it would be below dl2

[@badr.4558]

@theshagohod u fr man i see all the community play btz so idk i might be wrong

[@pikapi7429]

Eh, i prefer dl2 to dl1. I get its rocky start and not anywhere near what i want bc of 2018. And yeah, the purchase bundles are eh. But i still cant let go XD I just want legend level 250 but its tidious without anything to do

[@DemonTunee]

Only thing annoys me is that I've pre ordered the ult edition thinking getting the biggest any dlc and cosmetics I'd get for free but nope don't get any and it's Hella annoying

[@arabman5848]

That's messed up...

[@jonathan0284]

"Once more unto the breach, dear friends"

[@blablabla1646]

pirate is not theft, if buying is not owning

[@MrEnigma0]

It has more bundles than actual DLC it's been almost 2 years since the first DLC and we still had yet to hear any news about it

[@grimreaper6060]

Although I'm disappointed in seeing Techland becoming another one of EA sheeps, I'm still satisfied to see them taking down that Modder's paywall. Because let me tell you: There is NOTHING that I hate more about creators on the Internet than the typical "Pay on my Patreon to access full content" habit!

[@pixytorres7117]

If you need mods to fix your game then you're a terrible game dev.

[@grimreaper6060]

@@pixytorres7117 It doesn't make any difference to me. I only play the first Dying Light anyways.

[@bread1189]

​@@pixytorres7117all games has mods tho

[@pixytorres7117]

@@bread1189 There games that are better and fixed with mods. Skyrim for example another overated game that without the mods nobody would be talking about it.

[@Lol_low]

​@@pixytorres7117 mods dont fix the games. They add on them

[@SpikedTeeth]

Techland released 22 bundles over a 7 year support span for Dying Light 1 with 1 major DLC released only a year after launch and 3 minor DLCs released throughout its support span. Techland has released 29 bundles in only a little over 2 years out of 5 for Dying Light 2s support span, released 1 minor DLC that was delayed 4 times and still came out as an awful buggy mess 10 months after launch, and DLC2 is nowhere in sight and no actual news has been given in... How long has it been now? A year? But yeah, I'm sure the new Techland(the higher ups, not the developers) care about the fans and definitely not the money they can make off them! Its not like they scammed players by releasing a broken, buggy mess of a game that was nothing like promised or anything like that!

[@kiopsm8825]

Let's be clear about the bundles, if you missed an event in DL1 that outfit/weapon was gone forever but for DL2 (nearly) every event exclusive item is being sold as a bundle. I don't know about anyone else but I'd much rather have items still be gainable after events end rather than them just disappearing forever.

[@SpikedTeeth]

@kiopsm8825 Let's be clear about the bundles, Techland could very easily have put them on the Pilgrim Outpost website they already had pre-DL store or, y'know, they could actually focus on fixing their game instead of making shitty cosmetic bundles and lame events in the first place 🤷‍♂️

[@lazyvoid7107]

​@@SpikedTeethLet Techland cook with DLC 2 stop trying to pressure them and they been added stuffs it's just you don't notice

[@kiopsm8825]

@@SpikedTeeth if Pilgrim Outpost was reworked then that could work, but why not also make that argument against DL1? And cosmetics barely take any time to make, techland releasing bundles and events (unless it's something on the level of Hallows Eve or Winter Tales) won't change a single thing in how long it will take them to release content or patches.

[@SpikedTeeth]

@lazyvoid7107 Oh, I've noticed, I simply am not going to applaud them for adding basic features that should've been in the game at launch, but you keep meatriding Techland, lil buddy, I'm gonna keep calling them on their shit.

[@reddeaddude2187]

The only way I was able to max my blueprints and get to legend level 300 was a trophy duplication glitch. It is already WAY TOO FUCKING GRINDY.

[@agentnukaz1715]

i doubt there is a single legit legend 300 lmao.

[@BulldogFromHell]

@@agentnukaz1715 By legit do you mean grinded? Here I am. I just killed Aberrations for it on Nightmare.

[@Oilcommunist]

​@BulldogFromHell Do you use glitched weapons?(military machete)

[@BulldogFromHell]

@@Oilcommunist I used the Pipe Bow from Bloody Ties. Headshots one shot.

[@Oilcommunist]

@BulldogFromHell Damn, I am gonna try this. I have a bad time with aberrations, even with exotic weapons(not nocturnal, I really want nocturnal, but Harper grind is killing me)

[@PabloHernandez-gl5ij]

Tencent and Techland up to no good again for those of us who called it and said that this was going to happen I hope someone picked up that goddamn phone because we freaking called it!

[@kevinle1083]

Blame Tencent and Techland’s greedy execs.

[@BulldogFromHell]

Called what? Stop crying. The game is fine. If you don't like it, don't buy it. It's a PvE game.

[@void-master9077]

@@BulldogFromHellyou realize that people complaining makes the devs listen and fix things right?😅

[@BulldogFromHell]

@@void-master9077 A bit of it, yes. That's called criticism. But the endless bullying and bashing ain't it. Positive/Negative reinforcement is the way, not this ''Techland is literally useless, all they do is make it worse'' type crap. That's just disheartening.

[@Hjyyiggi]

​@@BulldogFromHellbro what do you mean about "we are bullying techland" we are criticize techland there is a different

[@theworldofwoo8320]

The video isn't negative. Its nice to hear some actual criticism instead of the knob gobblers

[@Vegas-3301]

It really seems like Techland isn't releasing anything new into the game other than what should have already been there at launch. That's why we have the feeling that the updates aren't coming with anything new. We'll only see something really new in DLC 2 and I don't even know if I'm looking forward to it

[@sfierro518]

I'm glad you are voicing this. Honestly you always remind me of The Act Man but a dying light 2 focused version lol.

[@derkitheofficial3306]

6:03 fallout 76 did a similar thing. Its full on illegal in some countries to release a never before seen bundle at a ‘discount’ when there was never an un-discounted version.

[@reddeaddude2187]

It should be illegal in every country. This industry has been "anything goes" for too long.

[@agentnukaz1715]

i didnt know that, it should be that way everywhere

[@fallendeus]

The other thing is, people that make mods CANNOT charge money for anything in their mods. You CAN take donations for your work as a mod creator. Any company has to do this in order to protect their IP rights. Has nothing to do with people doing what you said.

[@lucasarcanjodedao1209]

We warned what would happened when Tencent was involved

[@arabman5848]

Who's tencent

[@lucasarcanjodedao1209]

@@arabman5848 Chinese investment company that only has gotcha games

[@teddys5775]

All I wanted is a story expansion to fill in all the stuff they promised in the pre launch trailers

[@kiopsm8825]

In my eyes the gun bundle issue is being blown out of proportion because next to nobody complained about earlier, much more OP bundles.

[@NiceDiggz]

Probably cause nobody plays it

[@ニーア0]

I completely forgot this game existed.

[@ProtoBrown]

No you didn’t dude, stop lying.

[@malman_is_boiiii]

Leave a bad review for it, for the communities sake.

[@justbeingfunbugg6470]

My man who cares about buying a gun from the shop. It's literally just a pistol that's weaker then all the other ones. Not to mention that when you complete the lost armory quest you get a pistol immediately so it's not even like you are getting something you have to work for like the shotgun

[@rlghost9675]

Aint that the point? You need to do the quest, grind to get that weapon... Selling it as a bundle or "cosmetic" essentially bypasses that which takes away from the grind or the game... It all starts with one thing then leads to another... You may not know, they may make a bundle on other weapons in the future seeing that players are buying that pistol "cosmetic" to essentially get it early similar to a "pay to win" concept, you pay to get a weapon first that other players needs to grind to get... Maybe there may be a shotgun, tec9 bundles in the future because of money people spending to bypass content which is profit to them...

[@justbeingfunbugg6470]

@@rlghost9675 my take is it's not a game where you can fight other players, it's a pve. yes it does remove the grind to unlock a pistol but since it's the weakest pistol in the game you still have to do the grind if you want to get a pistol that does more damage, and unless you do the grind so you can buy ammo, the only way for you to get ammo would be the military conveys which only gives 2 types of ammo per convey so you don't even get a 100% chance to find the ammo you need at them. I think it balances it out and although it would suck for them to sell a shotgun in the store if you did the whole grind for the gold one, I doubt they'd release a bundle with a very basic looking one and would make one thats unique and really nice looking like the redux rifle you can buy from the store WHICH I haven't seen anyone complain about at all for this argument and they only focus on the pistol.

[@rlghost9675]

@@justbeingfunbugg6470 I get your point, although its a pve, it still takes away from the experience of the grind to unlock, tho I guess its not that big of a deal for the time being but who knows maybe this bundle will be the start of other bundles that gives players advantage and remove the grind to acquire them like the generic system of micro transactions for early access of guns, weapons and other content that other games promote... There maybe other weapon bundles in the future, and may become a common occurance in their next updates and games... Essentially becoming another of those greedy gaming companies such as Acti**s**n, EA, and many more... And as time goes those "micro"-transactions wont be "micro" anymore... From $1.99 bundles to $69.99 bundles type of transaction

[@JazNazTheLad]

My opinion on the pistol bundle: One step forward with the Nightmare Update, Two steps back with this bundle My opinion on the I am Legion situation: Both Sides arnt exactly the best... I love Techland but Jesus Christ i knew it was gonna go to shit when It got bought out

[@SirGibsonOfMel]

You couldn’t be more wrong about Ubisoft!…. They don’t want you to buy the $130 AC, they want you to buy the $18 a month subscription so they can constantly have their hand in your wallet and probably touch your beehole while they’re in your back pocket

[@JkOutdoors-5]

To be honest I’ve played through it 2 times now and I still haven’t unlocked the guns I just don’t need them

[@TotallyToonsTV]

I have a strong feeling this is down to Tencent. When Tencent acquired Techland we all knew this would start happening.

[@CinematicGamez]

Look it seems based on what they said during the nightmare update tymon said the dying light development team is only 60 people which sounds small so I get why certain things are happening but i feel that they haven’t been as transparent enough with the community even though they may say they are, a lot of community features get overlooked or not responded at all , then it’s mostly ads for the first dying light which is okay to get new fans but not okay during times the community is looking for content info for the second game ,then when fans ignore the ads they are radio silent very often, last but not least they still haven’t fully fix the game still lots of bugs!! game ending might I add.but what still the biggest issue for the game is the environment it still needs a lot of work (factions associated regions need to feel different as they promised this during launch that would be different) moments a lot of the rooftops are the same and need changes, dark zones and GRE hospitals need new a compete rework ,updates to combat / need more executions (fix bugs during executions ) are still big issues not addressed and as a player who constantly plays there is not much endgame and I would say world wise to stay in for long periods after you finish the game which is sad because the first game had so much little details and the world felt alive and everytime you went in it always felt different and that what I hope tech land sees at the moment I don’t care about the dlc 2 or tower raid if the main feature still haven’t been fix because then more bugs will come since they will just add these new features that may not be fully polished I have no problem if most of the problems I pointed out get fix through next update but if ignore the game may just lose the traction it’s at

[@lazyvoid7107]

Then you don't care about DL2

[@CinematicGamez]

@@lazyvoid7107 how so

[@CinematicGamez]

I care about the game a lot shitbi would game test for them for free and I’m a huge fan but I you can tell when issues are being ignored

[@Hitomonsunami]

Yup, as I mentioned in another video comments about this... knew this was coming when they got bought out.

[@diligencehumility6971]

I think the update was really good. They included earlier DLCs to the base game, added weapons and tons of other stuff. For free. It's called "Reloaded" edition.

[@mainstuff7858]

uhhh did you get paid by Techland to type this crap?

[@mattmattson316]

When i heard Tencent entered the chat we all knew this game was doomed

[@klyzn]

I bought it recently so me and my girlfriend can co-op together. We are barely in the beginning. I hope it's still fun and worh it.

[@MaelStooorm]

yeah, hope. It's all you got friend.

[@HHTwice]

Not really, there’s so many better co op games than whatever this is

[@badr.4558]

If ur talking abt dl2 hes gameplay wise it's gonna be fun nonetheless but if you're talking abt story wise its decent but not that much

[@klyzn]

@@HHTwice Name a few? Because I feel we played mostly all of them.

[@fantapro23]

It's worth it, don't worry. The game is fun till you unlock everything and level up to the max which will take you about a year or 2.

[@TheGravityShifter]

As someone who loves mods in gaming and knows his stuff about that ecosystem, there is a golden rule in Modding. NEVER CHARGE MONEY FOR YOUR MODS! You can ask for donations as an optional thing to get support but if it requires payment to access it, not only is it scummy no matter how understandable it is, it's not your game that you're changing around. As for what you plan to do in the future, I'm looking forward to what you got cooking. Maybe make some videos that promote Indie studios with upcoming games as well when possible! I'd be down for that. Especially since you're so open against modern AAA gaming.

[@veetew]

saying all this a few weeks after the tymon interview is wild 💀 100% agree but damn

[@joe8469]

quag

[@felixgeorgeault6079]

He knows it's not Tymon's fault most likely so no worries bout that

[@jaydonchmielinski1584]

Theres so many problems still left in dying light 2, outside of the live service model they’re going for the game is still buggy in some areas, parkour can feel sluggish during certain actions, co op animations look weird and the world design makes absolutely no sense at all when you think about it

[@ralphw.miller5256]

i think something people forget is that last year Tencent bought techland and they might be pushing for stuff like this in the game in hopes to achive a profitable live service game and not necessarily something techland wants.

[@deenman23]

i mean...dying light 1 sold a gun that 1 shots volatiles lol

[@Snake_eyes0]

Fr why does nobody talk about that

[@K9unit37]

The bundles have always had some instance of pay to skip or op items. This isn't new and the community has always let it slide. It's always infuriating every single time.

[@kiopsm8825]

Yeah, a lot of people seem to forget that the Nutcracker bundle weapon can 1-shot most enemies until you get to the central loop, if someone has an issue with the gun bundles but not that, they're being a hypocrite.

[@K9unit37]

@@kiopsm8825 it began in the first game too

[@ivanvenne]

I don't think a lot of people know that this is also a problem with Dying Light 1. Dying Light 1 has a lot of DLC weapons that are way too good for early game. A DLC weapon I used a lot when I played the switch version was a rifle that had a silencer but didn't need any subsonic ammo. I was shocked when I played the PC version with no DLC only to find out that crafting a silenced weapon is a lot more challenging and also required that subsonic ammo. Content bundles that made the early game significantly easier is not a Dying Light 2 issue and to say bundles like this are going to ruin Dying Light 2 and not even mentioning that the first game had practically the same system feels disingenuous, though I don't think that's being done on purpose and it's more just that everybody forgot that Dying Light 1 had OP content bundles as well

[@DocOnHoliday]

Hey OniZombie, Thanks for clarifying where people are misunderstanding! The thank you pack only added content to the Stash. Which I know most of the mods on the Nexus use this approach and are entirely based off the stash system, but as a developer, this is cheap and can be done by a 100 line python script (meaning it's not even worth reviewing the code it's so stupid simple). Which is why, to the first part of your video, Techland selling that shit is absolutely cheap and disgusting, the most beginner modder could make that bundle in less than an hour by simply opening some files as adding 5 lines to a copied Package bundle. The reason I stated things the way I did, is that the IALR community knows (hopefully), about the thousands of hours that went into writing actual code and features for the mod and for the community. All of that content was always released to everyone, the thank you pack was something that could be made by any player by just adding the inventory items to the Stash, which is my mistake because I realize now that some people care about mods like these. The content created for the patreon wasn't even something I wanted for the mod, it was requested by my supporters, and so I wrote it for them. I clarified this in a later message after this blew up. Anyone who subbed knew they could add the stash pack, but it bloated their stash and so most people didn't use it, as it wasn't how I wanted players to enjoy all the new content, the dev time went into balancing and creating the mods features and content. Thanks for covering the issue! Sorry my message wasn't clearer from the start.

[@oneandonly1124]

i emailed techland atleast 10 times saying i claimed my harran pistol but didnt get it and they never fixed it they just said it may be fixed in a future update…. smh techland doesnt give a damn about the community

[@canoboss8337]

I love how the pre-order items like the XP booster is now in the store for everybody to get even though I pre-ordered this game just to get those items but now it's accessible to everybody that's crazy and some of the pre-order items are now accessible every who plays dlc are getting free why did I pre ordered this smh

[@edgarwhite9439]

They're also cuting out swaths of the games and selling it day one as DLC instead of just delivering a great whole game.

[@zay_tiggygaming]

Techland went from greedy to geniuses and all they had to do was bring back Crane. how quickly we forget

[@son-of-1810]

Can’t wait for them to send Tymon out for a random QnA to take the backlash

[@Cal_minmin]

I think a huge oversight in this video though is the fact that this bundle came out during the event that just happened over the past weekend with the infinite pistol ammo and in that event, they gave you a free gun so Techland has already bypassed that progression by giving everyone a free gun in their stash to claim over the weekend and have forever, I think the bundle just came out to capitalize on the event for people who wanted a different pistol to use, the pistol that is sold does the exact same amount of damage as the free pistol Techland gives to you during the event, so it’s not giving you any advantage that you didn’t already get for free in the game

[@GimmickCloud]

Bro the next story dlc was literally supposed to release like at least a year ago at this point, im really disappointed in Techland, like it feels like they are just murdering their game :(

[@DaSlayer273]

I find it funny to sell Player character cosmetics in a first person game the little shows any of the main character

[@SubjectDredd]

I don’t play the game anymore but like to keep up with it. Between the terrible writing and the get old quick gameplay, I do not understand how people are still playing this game. It’s impressive.

[@Ministry.of.Truth0]

I dont understand why people have a problem, for example, with the fact that immediately after the shot, Virals spawn, After all, it could be used for a preety reliable and bennefiting green trophy farm

[@bhabhutiji1169]

There's a problem, they are nerfing the free pistol

[@Ministry.of.Truth0]

@@bhabhutiji1169 I think it's a bit of an attempt to add a "if you want good things, work for it" variety to the game.

[@JaytasticalTV]

That’s why I don’t buy games anymore because they all end up like this. Games aren’t worth grinding anymore because they don’t allow us to grind they want us to buy everything

[@Drozey710]

_KZbin hates it when you deviate from your norm_ *sweats profusely and acts like a monkey*

[@KyanoAng3l0]

Greed ruins ANY game. We gamers have been noticing it and calling game companies out for it for decades, but these companies either are too naive to realize it or don't care cos it rakes in $$$.

[@SICPARVISMAGNA3018]

Played dying light 2 again about a month ago because of all the new stuff they added and it literally didn't change a thing for me

[@Mitch_Conner75926]

Cause there’s nothing new in the game, it has nothing in it. It’s a huge world space that feels exactly the same everywhere you go and all they’ve managed to do is add a ton of stupid parkour challenges and repetitive grinding to artificially boost play time.

[@DatAsianGuy]

@@Mitch_Conner75926 yeah, the main issue is just... there is literally nothing to do once you finished the story and most side quests. even the first dlc doesn't offer that much on the side of content. so all these updates that we got really don't change the core problem? What the hell are we supposed to do? The parkour update is great and all, but is still all I am supposed to do in the end-game? Run around, do some parkour runs? The night-time update is great and all, but the experience isn't that different from the original nights. most updates might seem "big", but when you have no actual goal, no task, nothing to focus your attention towards, besides the remnants of a mediocre and butchered story, then why play? That's why DLC2 and to some extend the tower raid will make or break the future longevity of DL2.

[@ColdSoldier02]

The ragdoll physics have been nerfed again with the latest update, i hate it, i miss swinging my weapon and sending them flying doing cartwheels at times head exploding blood all over the place, somehow, they fucked up a great thing, i wish i could revert back to that update that had decent physics.

[@pvzgamer9718]

I already spent nearly 100 usd on this game and they have the audacity to say “oh yeh, now if you want more content or to 100% something you gotta pay for it” it’s full on bs. I literally remember a friend getting me the OG DL for like 15 bucks and it had everything, all dlc’s all skin packs and special craftable weapons everything and now it’s just “oh spend like an extra 5 bucks for this special skin pack, subpar weapon and charm too” “oh yeah here’s a pack you’ll never get cuz it’ll cost you about 5k dl points or more if you wanna get it all” plus I had the most fun in the og game cuz of how I could get op and just destroy everything, I literally punched my way to victory the on my second file by using fun glitches and exploits in the game that they never patched after 8 years. it’s sad the direction Dying Light is going atm but I’m sure if we complain enough and give feedback we’ll get to the point where DL2 isn’t possibly some cashgrab that I wasted a ton of money on…also bring back OP weapons, Korek machete 3.0 is absolutely garbage I want a fun dev weapon that can make the game more amusing and just funny like the expcaliber. nonetheless there’s not much else I can think of saying right now but hopefully there’ll be more interesting things for me to do in the future that I can mess around and absolutely exploit to make the game more interesting to me…anyways have a good day and hope DLC2 and the tower raid aren’t going to disappoint.

[@facelessgames2194]

Why would you spend money on a boring, and mediocre game?

[@Hyderated]

I agree that the “it’s only cosmetics argument is kinda dumb. However I enjoy the fact that you’re able to earn the cosmetics for free through relatively easy challenges when they release. Other than that everything you said was right on the money

[@ChrisAlbertH47]

I never buy these time savers. Because if I don't want to grind in games (and I often don't because I ain't got time for that), I just cheat.

[@MBF120]

Man i havent played this game in so long, i didnt even know they added guns. It's a shame they werent in the game at launch, really killed it for me

[@Shadow-Morgana]

Uninstalled 2 weeks ago Mainly because the game is still irritating when it comes to its bugs Co-op is still unplayable and there's nothing to do after beating the game Beating the game on nightmare just to get an outfit that looks like waltz ain't worth it

[@Acid_Ash]

I don't think Techland understands they're walking on a tight rope. If after all the 5 years of updates (which should be 7) and if these micro transactions don't stay like the original; Which is embodiment of unique and reasonable for the price. So help me god if they keep pushing like this they'll fall off that tight rope and push their company into bankruptcy. The gaming industry is riding on Techland and Rockstar to stay reasonable and fan favorite devs to get others to follow, because the whole industry is suffering from inshitification. So if dying light 2 ends up being worse and money hungry to the original I don't believe I'll ever buy a Techland game again. At that point I might just stick to playing games released in the golden age

[@lazyvoid7107]

Sad that devs are getting attack but not the higher ups

[@TheGravityShifter]

To some extent it's warranted since they are why these things get added in at all.

[@keionenglish3636]

I really dont see the problem with the American Pistol. Ither games do this such as Warframe. You can grind to get the blueprints and components to a weapon or character or you can skip all that and out right buy the stuff.

[@_the_spy_8867]

I was just talking about that in an official DL2 Discord server and guess what? These people are trying their hardest to make a point where I'm wrong, that i can now see how all this affect people, players become corrupt too, just a brainwashed puppets, wanting to spend more and more for content, cos they can, while not realising the issue that might come in the future. I can say the same about my favorite Team Fortress 2. Despite all the bots that ruin whole experience, we've been making a movement recently called #SaveTF2 As many wise TF2 KZbinrs said, we won't be getting shi* if we won't stop buying crates and cosmetics from Valve, it's like the only way, those greedy mfs can notice us. And yet, there ALWAYS be a bunch of people(half of the Community), that doesn't care and buys even more crates, giving Valve more money, despite knowing well, how they abandoned my beloved game. Hope Techland won't go the same way and IF they go, they won't be like Ubisoft.

[@JackkaPakka]

I feel like the dead rising games have set a better standard than most zombie games that have released in recent years. In the past 5 years there have been so many online zombie games that have had incentives that are locked behind a pay wall. Honestly what happend to a game that just sold a season pass that gives you all content. I get that cosmetics are separate but that's purely choice. Stop putting content behind multiple paywalls and give us the season pass.

[@lukedillon4584]

Haven’t been active with DL2 or the series generally for ages, but I’ve pretty accurately predicted quite a lot of DL2’s development process. My guess for the tower raid is that it’ll be some generic repetitive hellraid type shit. Where you just go through waves and waves of endless enemies over and over. Probably to grind out yet another chapter-esque tree. Techland have shown a complete lack of creativity with basically everything about this game so far. Tower raid will probably be just as generic and repetitive.

[@PPK3K]

weird how people complain about a weapon bundle just now but when guns were first released you could just buy the neon rifle and nobody said anything at least to my knowledge

[@lil_taco23]

i was irritated when they nerfed the korek easter egg. seems like it has only gotten worse, yikes.

[@electrifiedpizza4078]

For a week or two right when the gun update came out, Techland offered a sign in bonus where you could get a free gun called the “Harran Pistol” which was just the service pistol but much worse damage. Basically my point is, they’ve been giving guns at the start way before this American pistol bundle came out. Why are you mad at them for giving guns now but not when that sign in bonus pistol was going on?

[@whitefrog3814]

Haven't played in almost a year. If the DLC is too costly, or unimpressive, I'll likely permanently delete it.

[@darken2185]

Following this game for 2 years has been a rollercoaster of emotions. It changed so much in both good and bad ways, I just hope by the time they're done with it the game is consistent with the identity of the franchise. I hope your channel does well after you stop or reduce DL content, you work really hard and deserve success outside Dying Light.

[@MIZZENIAL]

I've been saying this since day 1 when they delayed the game twice and gave us that trash. Same with the first dlc being delayed. Same with knife animations being delayed when animations are being advertised in a bundle with a knife (they added animationsway after it was in the store and people were pissed). Why do some people ignore the issue with this greed and shady practice. Guess what if they every add animal back they'll probably make you buy companions or rideable animals even though it's cut content. And these are just a couple things wrong.

[@TheKartofelPL]

I forgot Tencent bought techland xd, once proud Polish game dev company, making good dead island and revolutionary dying light.. I played through dying light 2 with a friend with whom i played Dying Light 1 and Far Cry 5.. It was sad for me to see all 4 problems i had in a Ubisoft game (none of them were in 1). 1. Not only we saw massive microtransaction shop. 2. There was no shared save progression option. 3. Exploration felt often bad due to retracing steps to get to inhibitors that other player found... 4. Connectivity issues. Very bad ones. Chinese money i guess.. Liked DL1 with Dlc more

[@Monolith_Soldier]

Why do people care about skipping grinding in whats supposed to be mainly a single player game? If this was pvp then i would understand why people would be mad if people paid for op gear and bypassing grind weapons.

[@Legend27999]

Ever since guns update was released this game hasn’t felt the same. I’m saddened because of this.

[@lazyvoid7107]

Bait

[@mlgsquirrel]

My take: make all the bundles you want as long as it doesn't affect people that don't spend money, and don't waste time and effort developing the bundles over gameplay improvements and dlc's. Techland needs to make more money somehow.

[@joogled1839]

exactly why i bought a key for this game. techland doesnt deserve our support for not listening to us.

[@st1734]

to be fair, there was already a bundle in the game that gave a gun and allowed you to skip that progression and no one had a problem with that. dont get me wrong, i agree selling the money and medkits is scummy, but the pistol? do we just expect them to never sell special guns because of how the lore is? i dont think thats fair. though it would be nice if these guns were sold as blueprints again like in the first game. so you need the base guns, before you can craft these bundle ones

[@MadonnaCreedVr]

You get a gun with 16 bullets (you can only get bullets from one man later in the game) and 10 medkits,(found literally everywhere early game) so broken😧

[@nightcloak74]

This blue American Pistol was up for sale at the same time as they were giving away the blue Haran Pistol, so it wasn't a real concern for me. The Retro Rifle should have triggered this alarm. You get to skip the grind while getting a rifle superior to anything you can earn.

[@vellikaari3008]

"We aren't controlled at all by Tencent!" The sellout company yells while making very Tencent moves

[@mrdiamozz9612]

Im sorry but no I'm not, I don't see the problem with buying guns for real money to unlock it faster, the game are more of a singelplayer game and the game are not meant to be speedruned so i really don't see the problem with that :)

[@ChaoscelusApollyon]

The game shills and shames you for not going on coop wym?

[@mrdiamozz9612]

@@ChaoscelusApollyon ok doesn't provide any point

[@PLamigo]

Also I hate how people say „what if I don’t have time for grinding” because if you have less time you just going to get there, just it will take more time. If it’s limited, you can decide of you want to get that peace of content.

[@felixgeorgeault6079]

I do not agree at all with you. Imagine having to grind for a span of several months just to unlock something in a game...yeah most people would just stop playing completely. So to me it does not change anything really. Either you grind and you have the content unlocked but you are pissed, or you are pissed and don't even want to play the game

[@isaiahmartinez3015]

I haven’t played dying light 2 in awhile and it seems that I haven’t missed out on anything

[@Hirnlego999]

At one point they improved aspects of the game it was interesting to see where it would go, but over time it has been clear that they don't quite know what to do with the game. I see no point in returning to until the story DLC is out.

[@gamedesignerwannabeakavipe7506]

So why weren’t we talking about this with the free Harran handgun you get or the volkatronix rifle bundle? Does it not do the same thing and bypass progression??

[@infinitedeath1384]

You can get a pistol as soon as you start out.

[@gamedesignerwannabeakavipe7506]

@@infinitedeath1384 exactly 😭

[@nickmichos]

Dying light 2 was already a grind, from upgrading gear (or else they would be obsolete at the endgame) to having to grind repetitive missions to unlock fun things like guns. The game felt like a ubisoft game from the start. No wonder they are using the same monetization tactics like ubisoft.

[@agentnukaz1715]

As a casual patreon supporter of IALR, he did have stuff locked but i supported him cus he deserves it and wanted continued mod updates, idc about the toys in those packs at allm the mod is great without it. I doubt someone actually cried to techland about it, they probably sniffed it out themselves but if a someone did, they're a real bitch, great job souring one the greatest dying light mod authors to exist.

[@ASUD37]

And in dying light this gun was an item you could just find even now guns are more like nightrunner tools not drop able

[@TheKarabanera]

I want 2018's E3 DL2 version. It looked so good.

[@reeceweston10]

I fucking swear dude, anytime this game takes a step forward it takes 2 steps back, then shoots itself in the foot. It's so fucking hard to be a fan of this game sometimes.

[@ChaoscelusApollyon]

Ironically, Dying Light 2 will be a dead game long before the first will

[@CMFZ_Jax]

I still wish I could force them to refund me. The disgrace this game is… Now they even went ahead and gave a ‚frick you’ to everyone who previously bought the ultimate edition, just making that first DLC free and keeping your money I really, really wish I could get a refund

[@adren42]

100 PERCENT AGREE! We all saw this coming with tencent buying a shit ton of stock... TECHLAND DO NOT TURN INTO UBISHIT !!

[@49HEALTH]

No, both sides are not understandable. That modder broke the rules and instead of reversing his mistake, he decided to make techland look evil and take away a good mod from players. F that guy.