Dying Light 2: How Techland Betrayed Themselves in 60 Minutes

[@Mooskeet]

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[@happyrogue9409]

you forgot to mention non-existent side quests

[@frulle8268]

create a discord ffs

[@ImNotFine44]

Congrats on blowing up

[@dmcgreev3415]

I have 456 hours into the game. These are the biggest issues: - Spent all their resources on complex human fight mechanics which failed (Can just spam hit and kill anyway). - Created a story around human vs human instead of DL1 which was humans vs surving zombies - Huge map with tall buildings but nothing to explore - in contrast to DL1, DL2 Went the bland RPG route with copy and pasted loot spots, generic mini boss fights, etc. - and most importantly like you said.. the atmosphere in DL1 feels like your just trying to survive in a dirty realistic scary place. DL2 feels like your in a goofy fantasy world with no real danger.

[@sirFo20]

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[@popeallahsnack-bar9804]

If I had a dollar for every time Aiden was punched in the face during a cutscene, I would have gotten a full refund.

[@33jamesds]

Of all the comments I've read here, this is like the only one I can absolutely stand behind. How does Aiden not see 500 sucker punches coming a mile away, when I can see them coming from....another plane of existence I guess? lol.

[@dynasteus]

💀💀💀

[@ryanmcphee8451]

Or everytime he Jiggs out bc of the inhibitors

[@JoJo-yb3mf]

@@ryanmcphee8451 I’m pretty sure his infection doesn’t help with that either 😂

[@Rockstarrclarke]

Lmao. 😂😅

[@robertmaclean7774]

I think the fact that most players avoided the nighttime in DL1 is actually a really good sign that the developers actually made a good horror game, because then those moments in missions where night falls and you have no choice to but to navigate to safety in the dark are that much better and thrilling. An amazing experience it was, lightning in a bottle.

[@ayeejiff9847]

i can confirm almost every coop i done in the past 7yrs playing DL 1 over 90% did not want to play at night time until i dropped them a gold katana and couple med kits. The new players really enjoyed the experience. It was challenging and entertaining enough and i never went ahead to ruin the campaign of the person i joined.

[@tosutaa]

DL1 night was so built different that I always cheese the mandatory night story mission by swimming around and working my way through some pipes before madly sprinting back to the tower

[@PapaRoboto]

And now that they made night in DL2 a chore, I think many people will just stop going out at night.

[@LisssardManN]

​@@PapaRobotonighttime now is much more better after the big night update though. it should've been in the game day 1, but at least techlands listening

[@kanekisleftsock4315]

⁠@@LisssardManNChrist maybe a lot of players are just pussy I mean nighttime on DL1 ain’t any scarier than DL2. My gamma is low to the point that the flash light only lights my screens center and leaves the sides black. Not to mention that the night only last 7 minutes where in DL2 it last much longer. Don’t understand how u guys find dying light scary

[@maxdoom3521]

I really liked how dl1 did the zombie apocalypse, as it wasn’t the entire world that had ended. it felt more real and immersive, and the atmosphere was absolutely perfect.

[@herrnase4340]

Jup. Should've been another zone instead of whatever we got

[@DJVideso]

The following dlc explains the story, (Nuke isn't cannon)

[@zanderrobson6512]

@@DJVideso someone gets it

[@zanderrobson6512]

It was more of a global crisis then

[@matthewjones39]

@@dukeonpluto18 The problem is, that “zone” is literally the last city on Earth.

[@mintdragon5382]

I didn't play DL2, but I watched my friend complete it. One of the things that always stood out to me in DL1 was how much Crain (Crane?) moved around during dialogue. It felt like you were watching a movie from a first-person perspective. He moves his hands, shakes his head, and walks around while talking. Aiden, by contrast, barely moves when he talks.

[@darkconch5244]

Aiden also has literally no personality, Crane always seemed like a guy trying to get through a tough time while Aiden sounds like an AI generated script. Aiden is also an incredibly passive character, he does nothing but get told what to do and it miraculously leads him to his shallow goal of finding his sister, Crane was kinda the same for like the first half of the game until he started making his own decisions instead of getting told to do shit by Lawan, he straight up told Rais to go fuck himself and did the same for the GRE. Aiden on the other hand is buddy buddy with Hakon until the game is like “Oh no, Hakon bad now, so now your friends with Lawan, the person who just tried to kill you because Aiden is a complete tool.” It’s not like the story of Og Dying Light is good, it’s mostly just mediocre but Dying Light wasn’t sold on its campaign. Dying Light 2 was sold on its campaign and the ability to decide the fate of the city, but the only choice is just let the city get destroyed or save it, no other decision in the game really means anything, saving your sister in the end also doesn’t mean anything cause the game does nothing to make me care, in order for me to care about Mia I have to care about Aiden and I don’t care about someone who has no personality or really human attributes beyond occasionally pissed off or screw Jack Matt or the main villian (I forget his name) is bad cause he steal sister even though I’m completely deluded and that’s not even true. Honestly why even give Aiden and backstory it does nothing for the story other than save Mia or save Lawan aka save a completely hollow character who dies immediately anyway making your decision completely pointless in that regard or save Aidens commander since Aiden never has a sentient thought throughout the entire campaign. If they wanted to make the campaign interesting go the Fallout: New Vegas route or making your character basically a complete nobody, then Aiden having no personality would actually work because one could be grafted onto him, also get rid of Lawan or at least re write her to more of be a companion instead of your brain, give Aiden a meaningful choice beyond the end of the game, like allowing him to full on join a faction or eradicate a faction, and add more factions, seriously why is there only two in this game, neither of them do anything beyond gameplay anyway except for the ending. These changes would at least make the game a little more interesting. I like doing something in the zombie apocalypse while in this nothing I choose really matters until the end of the game which is fine but why are there so many decisions if none of them really amount to anything major beyond small story beats. Anyway this game is buggy as hell too, just don’t buy it. I bought the full game and finished it, still regret it because of how shallow of an experience it was, don’t market your game on its story when the story is complete garbage, parkour is fun though but that’s the only redeeming factor.

[@phatdog]

Wdym he moves heaps in majority of the cutscenes lmao

[@Woodworn]

The character model moves, not the camera though

[@jakemills7829]

And that matters why? Both games have awful stories, and I skipped through every cutscene. The only exception to that is the Following DLC which I thought was interesting.

[@phatdog]

@@jakemills7829 Nah the chicken easter egg is where it's at 🤣

[@FourDozenEggs]

Honestly, if they only just improved the parkour but kept everything else similar to DL1, I think the game would be amazing. They shot themselves in the foot by trying to change every single system in the game.

[@suddenimpulse030]

The combat reactivity went to total shit and some of the sidequests were embarrassingly bad even for fetch quests. Two of my biggest issues. The combat physics and reactivity was what made the first game so fun and special imho.

[@Bedbug451]

@@suddenimpulse030 I hate the challenges Disguised as quest’s

[@mangoman7346]

No, if they did that then everyone will say that they didn’t do enough to improve it over the first game

[@zackhawn5944]

@@suddenimpulse030 Ya I just started playing it and Dying Light 1s combat was better. In DL2 the enemies feel like they have no weight and when you kill them they fly like 20 feet.

[@xanderlaskey2753]

@@mangoman7346 Well CoDs have been doing that for decades and they still are the top selling games

[@thacoolest13]

One thing that really annoyed me was how some of the cutscenes require you to enter an area in a very specific area. Nothing worse then finding out how to parkour over a huge wall only to find out you were ACTUALLY supposed to slowly crawl through a tiny hole in the ground to trigger a cutscene.

[@xiiiL_]

you mean that mission where you were supposed to visit the gre data base or sum for the first time? yeah i did that too, had to fucken idea that, that wooden sheet was interactable and just stood there wondering why the hell is nothing happening

[@thacoolest13]

@@xiiiL_ Yea this one exactly. Wasn't the first time but it was the most memorable because of how long it took me to get over that huge wall... and yep once I got over, I ran around trying to figure out why nothing epic was happening lol

[@ayomayonnaise8886]

Also the way you damage the zombies in dying light 1 feels real but in 2 it just feels like your hitting health bars instead of flesh

[@well8250]

turn off healthbars then

[@hirocheeto7795]

@@well8250 That's not the point he made. The point is that you're not hitting a zombie anymore like in DL1, where you could break bones and you did more damage if you hit them in the head. Now, you're quite literally hitting their healthbar, or in other words putting in your hit quota until the enemy goes away. Turning off the health display doesn't revert you back to DL1 combat.

[@well8250]

@@hirocheeto7795 out of sight out of mind

[@hirocheeto7795]

@@well8250 Except for when you can count "1, 2, 3" and without fail watch the zombie drop, no matter where you hit it. Or have to bludgeon an armored one dozens of times no matter how many of those land on the head.

[@pantommy]

@@well8250 the combat is more animation driven than physics driven, which makes zombies react to your hits in very odd and unsatisfying ways. The first game did it better, but parrying and blocking are still things that I appreciate in the second game.

[@samturner6061]

The RPG mechanic of having zombies weaker in some places than others is the shittest thing about this game. The first games combat was spot on, and they completely ruined it by making zombies damage sponges.

[@irvancrocs1753]

That's kinda similar mechanic in newer Assassin's Creed games as well. A level 50 bandits have same mechanic and same animation with level 1 bandits, the differences are they have tons of hp and can kill you in one hit if you are not high level enough.. They don't bring anything new on the table besides being a sword-sponge..

[@little-rat-tim]

in the first game all zombies were damage sponges lmao

[@irvancrocs1753]

@@little-rat-tim Not until you craft your first elemental weapon, ofc early game is damage sponge because what would you expect from weapons like lead pipe or wooden plank lol.. Once you acquire upgraded weapons everything is one slash for me even in Nightmare difficulty as long you target the neck properly.

[@little-rat-tim]

@@irvancrocs1753 tbh i almost never crafted weapons, cuz they're not that much stronger, the zombies still take like 15 hits to kill, and especially because at a certain point that weapon will break forever anyway, when firearms are infinitely better, cuz the ammo for them is easy to get, they don't break, they deal insane damage, they are ranged, and you don't have to "enjoy" the horrible, terrible, god awful fucking abomination of a combat system. even on nighhtmare difficulty, they oneshot everything in the head except special zombies, who still don't take too much ammo to kill

[@irvancrocs1753]

@@little-rat-tim Eh not really, melee combat is the best aspect for me in DL1, especially considering how inferior melee combat in DL2, they downgrade it to the abyss. Like i said, every parts of zombies have critical zones, you deal head trauma easier by attacking top head with with blunt weapon, and one hit kill zombies with slice through the neck, it's not just some random button mashing, also fighting while utilizing parkour is just too damn fun, that's why i love Harran Prison in Prison Heist DLC. Also guns make the game boring so fast since there is no actual challenge, might as well playing CoD zombies lol, but to each of their own i guess. And it's not like i hate guns in the game but i only prefer using it on human enemies.

[@CuT7yFlaM]

The nights in DL1 were terrifying. I didn't dread them but they were a challenge. The incentive of double XP was great, and some quests using the night as a requirement was always thrilling as you knew what you were going to deal with. I always felt alive during those and truly justified in investing in skills, gear upgrades and mastering the level design to survive those moments. That system created and interesting extension of a classical gameplay loop for player progression and showed the worth of all the core mechanics that was the "fight or flight" running the game.

[@nopenope8250]

No, nights in dl1 weren't terrifying. More annoying. I swear to elder gods, gamers are such a candyassess that can be scared by anything..

[@DJVideso]

DL1 nights weren't terrifying, the volatiles chasing you were

[@Smirving]

@@nopenope8250 Wtf do you mean

[@enzopassosscandolara2964]

@ToeTruck hell nah, dl1 is way scarier and if you just run to a safe house and get spotted every time I don't think the problem is on the game...

[@enzopassosscandolara2964]

@ToeTruck now I get your point

[@jamishmcquo7590]

DL1: utilize the decrepit alleyways of the slums and scale shanty towns and shacks to desperately but fruitlessly escape your aggressors DL2: climb up a 30 mile tower, encounter 1 zombie, paraglide away into a different timezone if anything gets too hot

[@wtfimcrying]

i like how this literally isnt true because the parkour sucked and you can just grapple away from any encounter lol.

[@OpticzMuffin]

@@wtfimcrying Grappling hook is unlocked late in the game. Parkour is also less floaty compared to DL2.

[@wtfimcrying]

@@OpticzMuffin grappling hook is definitely not that late of an unlock. and also floaty parkour is definitely just a preference based thing.

[@itsClaptrap]

@@OpticzMuffin I'm a DL1 stan myself but this thread is pretty unfair because you can totally just Batman Grappling Hook away to any nearby rooftop if things are too spicy Also the grappling hook isnt somehow some late game tool that totally requires huge effort or time sink to get. You can get it 6-8 hours into the game _IF_ you don't know what you're doing, by that time, you're in Old Town, the place where it benefits you the most. It isnt hard to get, and you will inevitably get it anyways because it's literally the middle of the survivor tech tree it's not an end game tool, it's literally a Mid Game tool

[@Seyiu.]

@@itsClaptrap i only did main questline and got it after i arrived in oldtown. its mid-late game tool.

[@Righteous_Destiny]

It doesn't seem like the same development team as Dying light 1. Simple things that worked in the first game were completely broken in DL2. I found myself saying "not my Techland." While I was playing

[@Mooskeet]

Yes!! It was so hard for me to not see almost out right negative intent behind it, as if techland just took the DL1 money and was just like “ok this is the game we ACTUALLY wanted to make” lol

[@ultradeathboy]

@@Mooskeet I think your reading too much into it

[@ultradeathboy]

"not my techland" that sounds stupid

[@Righteous_Destiny]

@@ultradeathboy It's implying that it's either not the same developers at Techland or they lost their passion for the game. Think before you say something stupid

[@midoriyaweed5508]

I remember everyone saying how dogshit the story of the first game was, but apparently now that the second game came out, everyone just forgot. I'm starting to feel like people just want games to do nothing different from the first. Saying that the second game didn't properly expand upon the things in the first game is just a straight up lie.

[@thaipankatima658]

I remember the first time I played DL 1. That mission to destroy antizin really made my hair stand on end. When the call comes in that night is coming, I head straight to a safehouse. I never ever come out at night unless it is FOR a mission. Hearing those loud heavy footsteps chasing up behind me will always haunt my nightmares.

[@HueyFreemanGOAT]

You can't handle his game stop playing I guess🤷🏾‍♂️

[@thaipankatima658]

@@HueyFreemanGOAT Dude. The scariness is what made the game awesome! DL2 had little in terms of scariness. It wasn't a diss, it's a compliment.

[@XanMan1706]

ong bro that first mission was so fun but so scary made me never wanna go out at night lol but once i got a weapon like the spectral baseball bat going out at night was def not as scary

[@dontshootmex5588]

The two things that broke DL2 for me was that 1. Pretty much all the things they've promised and shown in the early trailers is either half baked or completely gone (changing dynamic world, 1 large map, modern dark age, meaningful choices, etc.) and 2. It just doesn't have the feel of the first game. The atmosphere, the gameplay, the parcour, the weapons, it all just feels somewhat off and floaty. It doesn't feel fun to play the same way DL1 did.

[@kinorris1709]

You can blame the metoo movement for the first point. Chris Avellone was falsely accused of sexual misconduct, but the metoo movement would have gone after them full force if they hadn't thrown him under the bus. And of course, they threw away everything that was already in place barring the intro because it was associated with him. Then it turns out it's false and they don't face any consequences.

[@irvancrocs1753]

3. PK Crossbow

[@xxcam95xx7]

@@irvancrocs1753 the crossbow is better than any gun in dl1 lmao

[@Bshady37]

Its a sequel, why tf would it want to be like DL1

[@xxcam95xx7]

@@Bshady37 EXACTLY Its supposed to be different Dl2 has some amazing changes to dl1 combat and parkour

[@Kola25_97]

Techland kinda also shot themselves in the foot narrative wise for future installments of the series assuming DL2 has done well enough to warrant them; by having the apocalypse happen and a "last city on Earth" be instilled, there's not really any opportunity to create new stories also taking in consideration the quite large time gap between the first and second games. Had they have gone with the approach the Dead Rising franchise took with creating setups for installments where the Harran virus was only ever good at infecting one place at a time similar to Dead Rising's zombie outbreaks in that each would be small, contained phenomena that inevitably get quarantined and sealed off from the rest of the world, inevitably get abandoned or destroyed by firebombing to contain the parasite/virus respectively and then the whole world moves on with their lives after the end of the outbreak then maybe we'd be seeing Dying Light 3 and so on.

[@Mooskeet]

That is a great point. One of the missions in DL1 had you broadcast a signal so the GRE wouldnt obliterate harann under the guise that the city is void of human life. Dying light 2 played up "the fall" to such a severe extent that its hard if not impossible to revisit

[@dukejohnson1956]

I don’t think we’re getting a 3rd dying light game.

[@vivosmartphone2280]

I agree. I think the only 2 good way they can make DL3 in the future are : 1. DL3 is set between DL1 & DL2 (an interquel) 2. Mankind somehow rebuilt itself and is slowly able to evolve and adapt against the zombies. DL3 is set in the last city on earth to still be overrun by the zombies, while every other city has succesfully purged the zombies and the infection

[@Delta_2209]

It's weird how if they make DL3, it will be a pre sequel

[@kap6457]

@@Delta_2209 in the intro they said that in between dl1 and 2 pretty much nothing happened, the cure was found, and not much happened. And also, harran was nuked and all the important dl1 characters died or disappeared. I don't think they have enough material to make a prequel to dying light 2, they could make a dying light one prequel tho.

[@ystar13]

I never played DL1 but after sensing that the combat felt "off" in DL2, I looked this video up. As another commenter said, the combat "feels like your hitting health bars". Excited to go back in time and try DL1

[@arlom5132]

Dead Island was (maybe still is?) on sale for $3, and that game has better combat than DL2.

[@narcissist4593]

@@arlom5132 Dead island is a babysitter version of both dying lights LMFAO😭 bro i just looked it up and its a badddddd combat mechanics, dying light 1 really overrides both DL2 and dead island on an insane level💀 but dying light 2 still better

[@hellgates_javed6451]

Just disable them smart guy

[@ystar13]

@@hellgates_javed6451 it's not the bars themselves, it's the mechanics. Reporting back.... I tried DL1 and it definitely feels different and better

[@2004misty]

Please play dying light 1 you won’t regret it that game is amazing dying light 2 is bad

[@Randomized_tv]

It's crazy how great/good all the alpha footage looked and the E3. And it's even more crazy how they changed almost everything from the E3's and Alpha's so much that wasn't needed to change.

[@djanithegamersfm]

To think all these changes happened right after they fired chris avellone

[@Randomized_tv]

@@djanithegamersfm why tho? They should've held that work and worked up on it. I am sure even the game tester was like bruh tf

[@djanithegamersfm]

@@Randomized_tv he was fired for false sexual harassment allegations even tho he proved it last summer on twitter that the allegations were false he basically fired for nothing

[@Gameplays1able]

@@Randomized_tv rape allegations i think or something like that

[@AhmadWahelsa]

As soon as the guy who wrote KOTOR 2 and New Vegas gets kicked from the project, i know that it will turns out mediocre, Chris Avellone deserved better.

[@AverageLeagueGamer]

I played DL2 for 3 hours, and the whole time all I was thinking was "Man, I sure wish I was playing DL1 right now". So I installed DL1 and beat the game again lmao

[@jakemcgowan5686]

I played it for 2 hrs then never touched it again

[@Chan-md2hb]

I beat DL2 but yeah it wasn't as good as DL1 unfortunately

[@devinespinoza9124]

Exactly me and my friend were playing dying light 2 and literally were like "you want to play dying light 1 instead?" Like it so sad cause i was excited for dying light 2 but ended up wanting more dying light 1 instead

[@timjacobsen253]

Did not Even make it through chapter one, before i installed dying light one. Felt the second downgraded everything except the graphics.

[@bruh-ux1ns]

My main gripe was how they made it an entire world-wide level apocalypse compared to the 1st game where you were operating in a quarantine zone, it gave a clandestine type of feel to it. Hell, the most memorable cut-scenes in the game for me were the conversations with the GRE.

[@DJVideso]

Well... Kyle Crane did infect the rest of the world

[@bruh-ux1ns]

@ToeTruck fair enough, but after playing DL2 the only character I can remember was the with the crossbow and that's it. I just think DL1 had a 'better' story compared to DL2 even if they were both hot garbage.

[@bruh-ux1ns]

@ToeTruck cause i was staring at lawans ass the entire time

[@VGSpoonium]

@@bruh-ux1ns imo Dl1 story was gabage "CRAAAAAAAAAANEEEE" and cliché as fuck, maybe DL2 story were not perfect, and character too. but at least they tried something, something not seen and something not cliché.

[@bruh-ux1ns]

@@VGSpoonium I'm not denying that the story of DL1 wasn't the best, but I still do prefer the clandestine feel to the game more than I do with the whole world in an apocalypse.

[@redsamurai9907]

Man I wondered how the E3 version would’ve been without the loss of the narrative writers and other devs.

[@djanithegamersfm]

Same

[@narrowstone5363]

@@samexoldx ?

[@eliasacevedo5711]

@@narrowstone5363 Chris Avellone was fired due to false sexual accusations made in twitter.

[@aaaa.aaaaaaaaaa]

@@narrowstone5363 he's talking about Chris Avellone, he was working on dying light 2, but was fired due to false rape accusations

[@thegreatresetofthehumanrac664]

The game would have been more similar to Dying Light 1. However the combat and parkour would still be as floaty as they are now

[@PositivelyNegativeOfficial]

You absolutely nailed it. This is exactly how I felt playing this and I just can’t bring myself to finish it. The first game was lightning in a bottle.

[@Lord_Itachi8758]

Oh don't get me wrong I grinded the shit out of the game when it dropped but did it all deleted it won't prolly touch it again. Dl1 will always be one of the best in the world of zombie games this game to be compared was like maybe more dead island road and I hate dead island 😭

[@Lord_Itachi8758]

Oh yea not too mention the basically remade what made the first so great the night time system like why make the game like the movie I am legend oh then now die in the sun like wtf 💀

[@zabbas9371]

I finished it but haven't got much inspiration or desire to complete the side missions. There just aren't any decent ones to play, that atmosphere isn't captured at all. It doesn't feel as authentic as the first. It feels like an RPG. There are many good points, but they could have done so much more.

[@unknown_karma12334]

lmao aight, the side missions are meh, but the story quest is actually cool

[@unknown_karma12334]

@@Lord_Itachi8758 have you AT LEAST followed the story of dl1? ever heared abou its country side dlc which is the continuation of the story mode? and the actual cannon ending to the whole game?

[@j0hny00s]

I just started playing DL2 and having been a day 1 DL1 veteran I could instantly tell the game felt off compared to the first one. The combat, having no sprint toggle, how easy the game is, etc. The biggest annoyance to me is the fact that there is no weapon repair kits like in the first game. I shouldn’t have to add a mod to my weapon to repair its durability. It’s a melee focused game how could they not add a dedicated repair option?

[@loudtaste1046]

Being a DL1 vet as well DL2 was disappointing to me

[@dirkz.duggitz1567]

Right? There were amazing weapons I didnt even use cuz I couldn't fix them n wanted to save them. Probably just use them for the new game plus in a year or so

[@SolarFlarehorse]

For real. The ability to repair weapons gave you more incentive to hunt down Legendary and Epic weapons, since, in addition to being stronger, they could also be repaired more times. Shit was downright wacky that you could only “repair” weapons in DL2 by modding them, and that would only give them a pathetic +50 to durability, which isn’t even a quarter of their total on most weapons past the beginning. So you don’t want to mod them right away, since then you lose out on total usage, but you also don’t want to mod them when they’re about to break, because that limits the use you get out of the mod. So you’re in this awkward shuffle of using your weapon for about ten swings, modding it, and then using it for another ten swings, rinse and repeat until you run out of mod slots.

[@evobsm2328]

I never even bothered playing the "sequel" no matter how many times they rubbed it in my face when i was and am playing dying light 1. Posters in the game, an ad at the opening screen... i hate ads in my game... why do game devs even do that? It makes you lookk shitty and greedy

[@stonebear8234]

There's a charm in dl2 that fixes weapons durability tho

[@KodyackCasual]

Hi, current patch Any% speedrun world record holder here. Not because I'm good or better than other runners, but because nobody else kept trying to speedrun it. Let me explain. In Dying Light 1, there's a few bugs and movement tech options that Techland knows about but has never touched because they don't affect regular gameplay and make the speedrun more fun and interesting. In Dying Light 2, every bug or interesting speedrun route was specifically targeted by the team to prevent people from using them or going down the same paths; going so far as to add barbed wire and "out of bounds" areas to prevent tricks that speedrunners would use. One of the most heinous is that, during the first travel to the hopsital with Hakon where he kicks down the ladder to help you climb up, there was a way to skip the ladder and talk with Hakon at the top. The game didn't break, it didn't cause issues, it just let you skip a small climbing sequence and some dialogue. And Techland made the top of the building "leaving mission area" until the ladder was kicked down. And this is only one of dozens of changes Techland did to make speedrunning worse, and completely killed all trust or good will the speedrunning community had for them. They specifically removed tricks that ONLY speedrunners knew or used about, clearly using our original runs (before we opened up the leaderboard to allow time for bugfixes and major patches) in order to target the runs specifically. I'm not exaggerating when I say they killed their own speedrunning community by targeting them. It's really sad.

[@Mooskeet]

this is incredible insight and worthy of its own youtube video, mad respect. thanks for commenting!

[@Dar1usz]

Theres no speedrunning of DY2 because still they cannot sort out rules and how it should be done. "Hey! We've been discussing this in the discord, but rules have just been finalized and runs will be accepted very very soon." 3 months passed and no additional information - thats why no one is speedrunning this game, even AussieGG

[@KodyackCasual]

@@Dar1usz That's just wrong mate, I'm part of that discord. Rules have been finalized since the first big patch, Nobody wants to run. Aussie included; he's the one who approved my run.

[@Dar1usz]

@@KodyackCasual of course nobody want to run because they lost interest into speedrunning when they had to wait over 4 months after release. No one is even bothering now, because its pointless. I am part of that discord as well and i know how messy it is and sometimes how hard it to regulate rules into games. Yeah, lets say people lost interest because Techland changed something, 4 months of waiting had 0 impact on them lol anyway congratz on getting WR being solo player on leaderboards 🤣

[@lukedillon4584]

Techland seems desperate to ‘balance’ dl2 regardless of whether it’s at the cost of player fun. Idk much about the speedrunning side of dl, but the korek was a good example of annoying balancing. It was OP as hell, but it was so fucking fun to use anything I wanted whenever I wanted. Then they broke it by charging 800 scrap. Who cares if it’s fun? It’s gotta be grindy like everything else. Then there was the airdrop nerf too, so for a while, it was impossible to get proper weapons above level 6. Then the goddamn mission boundaries and shit too. Techland seems so out of it, there’s been months of criticism which techland just seems to ignore. Doesn’t feel like techland are the same team responsible for dl1 anymore. Even dl1 had a pretty dogshit sendoff around dl2’s launch. I’ve lost most hope at this point.

[@logicality399]

I think one of the more funny things me and my friends did while playing was during cut scenes when Aiden gets hit by some random bum we always said, "Crane would've dodged that" or, "that would never be crane" the game never delivered the same feeling even in the main character

[@epcarter6]

Lol it’s funny because during my play through me and my son kept saying we miss Crane. They used the same voice actor but idk I didn’t resonate with Aiden the way I did with Crane.

[@ImClueless_]

@@epcarter6 they arent the same voice actor

[@ImClueless_]

@@epcarter6 aiden is played by Jonah Scott and Kyle crane is played by Roger craig smith

[@epcarter6]

@@ImClueless_ Oh damn they sound scarily alike I just figured it was the same actor. Thanks.

[@cartierclips1126]

@@epcarter6 the voice actors basically are clones of each other so they sound alike

[@Oichief]

The health bars in the second made the game less anxious because the lack of health bars in the first game makes you think if the zombies would still stand up after hitting it on the ground like a madman

[@tales527]

I swear to God everyone complains about that. YOU CAN TURN THEM OFF!

[@Pannoid]

​@@tales527 That changes nothing you mongrel. Let me explain, imagine playing war thunder for a 350 hours straight. You shoot your ammo into enemy tank knowing that if you shoot the effective area such as ammunation depot, it will explode. If you can't bring down the enemy forces you just shoot their barrel and escape. Anyway, and if you try World of Tanks after those unique mechanics and than if you see that tanks have a health bars, you would completely mad. EVEN IF YOU TURN OFF THE HEALTH BARS OF TANKS, THAT DOESN'T CHANGE ANY GODDAMN THING. IT HASN'T GOT WAR THUNDER MECHANICS. GOT IT DUDE? YOU WOULD BE STILL SHOOTING HEALTH BARS EVEN IF YOU SHUT IT OFF.

[@zarandadam1718]

​@@tales527 i think the problem with the health bar is that it exist, like in overall, because uf you hit the zombie with the most sharpest sword known to human kind in DL2, it takes 1/4 of the zombie's health, like wat

[@VGSpoonium]

@@zarandadam1718 put your google down, i'm 100 DL1 zombie had health bar, just never show to player. you guys are cherry picking i swear, Dl1 was fun and a parody of himself almost

[@user-cc2fm4vu2x]

These guys haven't even played the game and judging, seriously lazy behaviour

[@FlawlessFrivolity]

Dying light 2 feels more like a very long tutorial with a shit ton of side quests with only one boss that has a shit load of phases. But dying light 1 feels like the tutorial ends as soon as you wake up in the tower with a full story.

[@tristanstebbens1358]

bruh you literally still had a whole ass hour long prologue to get through after waking up in the tower in DL1. I swear half the people who criticise DL2 just don't remember what DL1 was actually like, especially at it's launch rather than halfway or to the end of its 7yr support lifecycle. Fact is DL1, especially at launch, suffers from largely the same issues DL2 is criticised for. Yet people somehow treat it as if DL1 doesn't have and never had these flaws.

[@Mike4-4]

@@tristanstebbens1358 ikr

[@yaboyreflex1919]

@@tristanstebbens1358 no people just acknowledge that dying light 1 regardless of flaws aced the main points of ‘dying light’…. Parkour and zombie slashing. Dying light 2 added new parkour mechanics but their floaty and the environment is boring

[@tristanstebbens1358]

@@yaboyreflex1919 Except no it didn't ace them. The zombie combat, yeah that was fine (tho human combat was tedious and frustrating due to the AI). But the parkour, although responsive, was unrealistic with a far too high gravity (you dropped vertically down like a brick not like a human), easily abused by animation breaking (spamming space bar), lacked weight (which does help with responsiveness but I prefer DL2s feeling of weight), and quite frankly the game lacked enough vertical gamespaces. And YES, the majority of DL1 looks the same, because it uses just as many repeating buildings. Tho tbf that is just a facet of open world game design. This is what I don't get about people who criticise DL2 as a step back on all fronts, the majority of issues are literally the exact same or worse in DL1.

[@emulatorisland7417]

@@tristanstebbens1358 Tristan, you might be the most based person ever. You aren't like those plebbitors man, I am so happy a person like you exists.

[@FinestXI]

I can not tell you how much it means to me to find someone else who thought spike saying we should part ways was weird as hell LOL.

[@Provilla420]

Can we talk About that Crane was a real badass and Aiden hurts himself every time in a cutscene when he is in a fight?

[@zanderrobson6512]

Maybe Aiden wants to see what they have got

[@pratiksengupta5336]

@@pattonrierson4319 He wasn't normal. He is a friggn piligrim who does dangerous jobs. Hell in the entire dying light 2 the piligrims were considered somone dangerous yet Aiden get punched by every enemies makes him look so friggin weak.

[@WiSHNUKEs]

@@pratiksengupta5336 Yea i find that very weird, They hyped up pilgrims being this nomad that travels across the wasteland and then you have Aiden. In reality he should be peak human since hes pretty young and hes been doing it for 4 years which is better than most pilgrims according to spike. I get it that they needed to weaken him physically a bit so you could upgrade him and shit but that shouldnt weaken is reflexes and quick thinking

[@pratiksengupta5336]

@@WiSHNUKEs Yeah atleast in the DLC he doesn't get punched in the face by everyone lol.

[@seppejanssens1090]

​@@WiSHNUKEsNot to mention that he was genetically engineerd to be stronger and more resilient than the average human. Both Lawan and the main baddy (forgot his name because he really was a bland character) mention this to you

[@ExtremeMan10]

I honestly started to have bad feeling when the parkour was involved with the camera. In DL1, the camera was moving with Crane when you climbed or run, giving it that realistic feeling, same with falling big heights and grabbing on ledges had small drop when caught it. In DL2 the camera is fixed in place, making all the climbing unrealistic.

[@sowpmactavish]

Not to mention the rolling. DL1 rolling actually skewed the camera, disorienting you slightly as it would if you PK rolled for real. In DL 2 it's like your head is on a gimbal. Aiden's body performs a perfect over-the-shoulder PK roll, but somehow his head remains perfectly perpendicular to the ground through the whole thing.

[@ExtremeMan10]

@@sowpmactavish Ye that too. It was even more prominent in combat. If infected grabbed you, the screen shake, if volatile pounced you it was right in your face. When you got rammed then 20% of the screen was floor as it looked like you are lying on the floor. Same with Night Hunter, all encounters were realistic 24/7, every move was personal. Even when you evade its pounce the camera goes behind you to follow Crane head movement. All of that is absent in sequel.

[@sowpmactavish]

@ToeTruck off yourself

[@rimworld64]

@toetruck1589 you have a troll face as a pfp and are speaking about superiority.... do you need help?

[@rimworld64]

@toetruck1589 because of the ad hominem bit, the roll is correct however.

[@mp9138]

I finished DL2 but i dont play it anymore because its not what i expected . Im still playing DL1 because it have that sound ambient some traumatic music and the environment , even the zombies are more scary than in DL2 , the fight is more effective in DL1 you can feel the slice or hit especially on slow motion kills. It suprised me on DL1 like from morning to night how sun falls and the weather , when it rains at night with lightning strikes , you can feel that. The environment suprised me also like sewers and caves , awesome stuffs . DL1 still the best for me. Im out :D:D:D

[@B23gh]

I prefer dead island 1 over dying light 1 dying light 1 jus takes too long to get weapon’s repaired what’s the point without workbenches that we can easily repair them there with money

[@bofa722]

Yeah when it's raining in DL2 i can't even tell half the time except for that insufferable post-process blur on my screen. No clue how that or the blinding sunlight effect got into the game but whoever allow it is a fucking idiot

[@abaddon130]

You're a man of culture I see. I myself use ambience music from the Countryside at night (The Following DLC) to fall asleep, it's pretty fucking awesome.

[@crazy_teacup]

@@B23gh yeah that's an actual valid opinion,you're a guy of simplicity and straightforward gameplay. Where as dying light has mechanics that are meant to slow you down (breaking weapons, constant lookout for mods, no fast travel) dead island has a straight and permanent progression.

[@joganaround7630]

Dying light 1 definitely had the better setting and environment combo. But I feel Techland will fix DL2 over some years. They’ve already been listening to the community recently. Might take awhile but I’m confident Techland can fix some things to drastically change the feeling of the game.

[@lucifermorningstar8387]

I never thought a game could terrify me so much until I played the airdrop mission. I remember sitting there, game paused, and feeling my pounding heart. That moment was simply... brilliant.

[@ignatz2]

Honestly my first real long chase was the one where you needed to escape a horde of volatiles through the sewers, and I'm pretty sure my bpm was in the 250s the whole time. I tried DL2 at some event and immediately tried getting a chase going and not only was it annoying to even get lvl 4, my heart was completely steady for the whole thing until I got bored and just strolled to safety.

[@thomnich374]

Two steps forward, several leaps back. The writing makes your head spin with confusion and the combat is the epitimy of "if it ain't broke, don't fix it". Techland don't even understand how their own virus works ffs. Why would Aiden need a bio marker to enter a safe zone? Also, they said special infected like goons, howlers, demolishes etc are evolutions of volatiles. Hell no. They're environmental mutations. Volatiles are the apex predator. Do they not remember the guy getting turned into one from the following? It's very frustrating tbh.

[@tasuu_]

I wouldn’t say several leaps back, and only two steps forward. The game does so much right, but i don’t think it compensates for a lot of the bad Gameplay is amazing (combat aside but it has a lot of potential in DLCs) but the writing is absolutely atrocious and it sours the entire game for me.

[@mysteryman4013]

Angry boy. So your points boils down to storytelling issues. But there’s so much more /: quite funny. & the combat is much better I don’t understand your point at all

[@ultradeathboy]

Have you not played the game? He needs a biomarker to track his infection. Even if he's in a safe zone and know he won't turn other survivors enforce it to be sure

[@868meekay]

Well it is not really confirmed that the Following was cannon

[@lm_slayer1]

This comment is dumb on so many fucking levels lmao. 1. This isn't the same virus, it's a mutation of the original virus, so it works differently. This is just a misunderstanding on your end, and you're blaming the devs 💀. 2. The combat is far better in this game, wtf are you smoking 💀. The hit detection was better in 1, but that's literally it, there was no nuance, and 2 handed weapons weren't remotely satisfying to use. DL2 fixes all of that. 3. Your entire point boils down to bad writing, which the 1st game also had, you haven't presented a point.

[@safwansaid5139]

Dyling light 2 techland follows the Ubisoft of video game making school, making every game in 2015 and beyond into a dumb down, watered down, substance-less RPG. I love the simplicity of DL1, you were a runner, navigating the dense urban landscape avoiding/or engaging hostile enemies... Thats it, it works.. but no, they have to follow what Ubisoft are doing with their game and instead of a step forward its a 5 step backward while shooting both of your foot, its that drastic of a change.

[@INSIGHT16]

RPG elements in dying light 2 sucks mate, weapons no longer worth anything, crafting is bullshit armor things are beyond useless I always just through the old shit or whenever I loot boxes and I dont find something good I feel scammed especially when I have to kill a swarm of enemy or sneak into a closed fucked up lap.

[@inreisen]

And remember there are no guns in DL2, in DL1 we had Pistols, Shotguns, Rifles etc.

[@AhmadWahelsa]

Their biggest red flag was to literally kick the guy who wrote two greatest RPGs KOTOR 2 and New Vegas, as soon as i heard the news, i know that it will turns out mediocre, Chris Avellone deserved better.

[@nikitos3558]

@@AhmadWahelsa They fired him before it was clear whether he was guilty or not (which he wasnt btw).

[@SoaR2COLDFNYT]

@@inreisen the no guns ain't bad because guns are broken in the first one and secondly the contradicted them self's by letting you have one that you can craft and its pretty powerful so yeah one step forward 2 steps back

[@malikgod]

You can always tell when a part two is going to suck they make it more colorful

[@JuggernautSPQR]

Great video, I'd just like to add that DL1 really made me care about the characters in the Tower. Rahim, Jade, their deaths are really devastating. The voice actor for Kyle did an amazing job, I can still hear his cry of desparation when he kills Rahim. When after jade dies, you no longer hear her warning you about the night and all you have is the beep of your watch, really leaves a void not just in the storyline but in the regular free roam gameplay. Sure some of the quests were kind of meh and the pacing was questionable but it really made you care for the people in the tower. Getting an airdrop felt like helping people close to you survive by giving them food and medicine, not a quick quest for survival points (which in reality is all it is :) ).

[@DJVideso]

The voice actor for Kyle Crane also voice acted Ezio from Assassins creed

[@narcleptik]

Precisely

[@lorenzocassaro6188]

Some of the quest were meh, but the alien gun...That was pure (frustrating) genius.

[@pratiksengupta5336]

This I genuinely cared about Rahim and Jade. Their deaths were devasting and broke my heart and left a void. But I can say for sure that I didn't felt anything for any characters in dying light 2.

[@julianbransky7168]

I couldn't agree more with you, man. DL1 and The Following were so much more engaging than the overstuffed DL2. It is true when they say that sometimes less IS more. I thing the development team behind the game should have stuck to the winning formula of the first one instead of deviating from the route that much,

[@KniveLing]

When I heard they reduced the fear factor by a huge amount and put health bars on enemies, I took it off my wish list instantly and didn't buy it. I'm proud of that decision.

[@PsychXxKiddo]

you can literally remove it 😂

[@RuddleDuddle44]

@@PsychXxKiddo removing one health bar doesnt fix the countless other fuck ups techland made though, does it?

[@alukaluk9668]

Ahaha That's what turned off the game but still pay $100 and I was disappointed. Going back to playing DL1

[@PsychXxKiddo]

@@RuddleDuddle44 no, but when was anyone talking about that? he said health bars were a problem so i gave him a fix

[@shubhabrataray1313]

@@PsychXxKiddo "they reduced the fear factor" literally the first words in op's comment.

[@tiefensucht]

The first map in Dying Light 2 is so much fun. Good design, good narration, the feel of lonelyness & fear. Then you visit the city and it is full of humans and is very badly designed. Also you don't encounter fear, you encounter annoyance. They even removed the fun head kick when zombies climb up to you on cars or roofs.

[@Cyrex_XIII]

What annoys me the most is the fact that avellone got allegations put against him that now "recently" we know are false and hes winning his legal battles but the damage has already been done. I wonder if we wouldve got the dying light 2 we got shown in E3 if some ppl didnt decide to go and ruin a mans career.

[@brandon_Larsen]

I guess some Men and Women who work for Techland just didn’t like the guy, And now Karma is coming to bight them in the Ass. People hating on their new game and now getting Sued for defamation 😂

[@gkkk2735]

@@brandon_Larsen you'd think they'd learn not to listen to Twitter thots

[@notxvexorr4379]

Well there you go... A bunch of snakes sliding in to steal someone's else's job/ideas/story so they can change it and ultimately ruin it... Happens to nearly every good movie/game/tv show/ story

[@oyveyshalom]

Why are people in this modern age so quick to ruin someone's career over an ALLEGATION? What happened to presumption of innocence?

[@gkkk2735]

@@oyveyshalom because they want the attention that it brings them

[@glitchframe6784]

Dying light 1 was definitly better, thats just an opinion though. I feel like DL1 was double cheeseburger, and DL2 was vegan patty. The preferance will vary from person to person, so its just silly how people get upset over which one they think is better.

[@samuelrebolloza1161]

Dying light 1 is for sure better. I don't regret getting dying light 2, and I'm sure it will get better with dlc and updates, but dl2 is so lacking in content compared to the first game, it's sad

[@soulrebel6309]

😂 vegan patty

[@midoriyaweed5508]

Chad dying light 1 and 2 enjoyer

[@Femtos]

There are some elements that DL2 did improve upon but overall DL1 is the superior game in terms of graphics, atmosphere, design, and cohesiveness. Not sure that's even an opinion tbh.

[@pantommy]

Honestly as much crap as people give the parkour in DL2, i prefer it simply because it's faster. I have a mod that makes the gravity 1.5x stronger, and it feels so much better than the first one simply because of the momentum and the longjumps and such. DL1 with DL2 combat mechanics and parkour (and the map, can't have the parkour without the map) would be great. The combat is more responsive in DL1, so I'd only have the parry and blocking from the second game.

[@-cnnnr-4686]

One of the most simple yet aggravating parts of Dying Light 2 for me has to be the change to kicking. My favorite move to do on zombies and people in the first game was jump up into the air and kicking them in the head. Not talking about the "Drop Kick" skill, I'm talking about 1 Right Bumper, 2 Left Bumper. It was so funny to see them fly backwards and even do a flip. Or just spam kicking a zombie in a corner. Just sad that it was taken from us in the 2nd game 😥

[@deinemudda6617]

I still remember the utter chaos that broke out once my friends and I figured out you could spam kick the zombies and basically stunlock them anywhere you wanted. Combine that with the top notch sound effects and goofy animations and you got a recepie for HOURS of maniacal laughter. Good times, great times...

[@AvisPraeda777]

It wasn't taken. You can still use that move. You and 138 other people haven't played Dying Light 2.

[@AvisPraeda777]

I'll record a video and post the link here to prove to the 139 people here that the move is still in Dying Light 2.

[@agator2149]

basically, block then attack. it allows you to kick! . . unsatisfyingly

[@remaks8405]

@@AvisPraeda777damn that must be a long video considering that you're still not done

[@flamingburitto]

The thing i hate the most about DL2 is how floaty the combat and parkour feels. Its like I'm playing on moon gravity. DL1's combat and parkour had real weight behind it. when you jumped off of buildings, or climbed, or even dropkicked someone, you could feel the weight.

[@matthewjones39]

DL 1 had higher gravity. DL 1.5 has realistic gravity.

[@narcleptik]

@@matthewjones39 bruh are you kidding. What's realistic about moon gravity

[@mayonnaise3959]

The parkour in 1 is dogshit

[@rimworld64]

@@narcleptik because the moons gravity is real (i do agree with the combat bit tho, its too floaty in combat and messes with the feel, the parkour however... the floatiness bit of that sort of add some leeway between jumps to quickly decide what you are going to do next. Not only that, it also let you just take in the *feel* of the parkour. The parkour floatiness aint really much of an issue. Its the fact that they ignored the way combat would work regarding this is a combat and parkour driven game, honestly, if they spent another year refining this, it could have been gold in those sectors, but they didnt. And thats it).

[@BoneWalker]

@@rimworld64 How does the parkour feeling floaty not matter in a game built around parkour. That's the main draw of the game.

[@Link10103]

The fact that they released this without any support for the quest system they have on their site that dying light 1 uses was mind boggling to me, especially with a post game feature on launch. Then I ran into the basically game breaking glitch of not being able to fast travel without going into ng+ for...2, 3 months? Widespread issue, barely even acknowledged until like 2 weeks ago, and that WHOLE TIME they're dropping booster events and shit lmao like wtf.

[@intergalacticmage5287]

Same here except I was soft locked in a room for that amount of time…

[@ArtistTheArtist05]

Ngl, there's only so many times I can be told the "Humanity sucks and zombies wouldn't be solved realistically" thing in the zombie apocalypse genre.

[@puck8961]

In the first game the turkey military could hold off the virus but now apparently the whole world couldn't do it -_-

[@hashooealsuliam2588]

Damnnnn I remember hitting a zombie in DL1 and it felt sooo realistic as if I am actually hitting them in real life. in DL2 it feels like like I'm hitting an NPC created by Ubisoft.

[@stefan6538]

The trees growing in roof tops is dumb. There are no roots visibly hanging from the ceiling inside the buildings. Also, structures would be halfway collapsed. This is only one of my complaints. Removing zombie gut camouflage was also a negative.

[@simonnachreiner8380]

The zombie camouflage was removed to make room for an actual stealth mechanic. A choice I wholeheartedly support since once you used gut camo there really wasn’t any tension to it just camo and avoid alpha volatiles. Several times I found myself just using camo just to skip dealing with zombies as they entirely ignore you for as long as it lasts.

[@stefan6538]

@@simonnachreiner8380 I like the camouflage better. This was yet another mistake they made.

[@wjveryzer7985]

omg i forgot about that!!! yet another great mechanic gone

[@nikitos3558]

@@simonnachreiner8380 The stealth mechanic in DL2 is the worst Ive seen in any videogame.

[@Femtos]

Growing trees on the roof is not only a stupid ass idea its also as pointed out not possible as there's no dirt to sustain the roots let alone the roof being able to support one let alone several trees. Tree houses would have made so much more sense. I feel the rooftops are littered with trees because they literally had nothing else designed to fill the void. Remove the trees and grass and you've got endless rooftops which would have made for an even blander map than what we got.

[@Whipo0]

0:13 filthiest transition i've seen all year

[@tonyspizza4081]

The most impressive part about this video was the fact that Kyle and Aiden are voiced by different people. I played Dying Light 1 and Dying Light 2 back to back and I could’ve sworn they were the same person.

[@jarednewman7823]

Right? That's how hard they were trying to make Aiden essentially Kyle Mk. II

[@ANG3LOFDAD3AD]

@@jarednewman7823 This is why I didn’t like the story all that much. They made it that Aiden basically tries to be Crane and I don’t really like it. He’s supposed someone else.

[@shawnicurry3606]

I also thought the exact same thing I had to Google the actor cuz I was that convinced it was the same actor lol

[@Rexxie44]

DL2 suffers "lets cut the entire game a year or two out from release" syndrome. Everything was half baked and just forgettable because of a lousy attempt to disassociate with main RPG/Story director. A controversy that ended up being a hoax in the end. They threw away diamonds for mid ass coal, nothing more really to say that isn't to be likely already said there.

[@AhmadWahelsa]

Chris Avellone deserved better.

[@pantommy]

@Rosie where DL1 was goofy and fun, DL2 took itself too seriously and became a chore. Comparing the antenna mission from DL1 and the VNC tower mission from DL2, the first one felt a lot more tense just because of the atmosphere, but it also felt badass. The latter felt stupid because it started off with your entire grew getting instakilled by a bomber. DL2 tried to be serious, but it ended up more goofy than the first one.

[@TheStraightestWhitest]

@Rosie DL1 has the worst story in gaming dude. Just some examples off the top of my head: Crane's disappearing antizin vial. Where'd it go? He stashes it during the first night run and never uses it. Would've been perfect to save himself and Jade. Rais' absolutely braindead obsession with Crane and the logic he applied. He keeps going back on his word to give Crane antizin because he doesn't want Crane to obey, then gives him another mission and forces obedience. Another example is his unwillingness to kill Crane every one of the dozen times he could have. He wanted to when he threw him in the pit, so why not just kill him while Crane was unconscious? But okay, maybe he wanted to amuse himself. But that's clearly not a factor anymore once Crane chops his hand off, because he then tells his men to open fire although he conveniently waits until Crane has the high ground and Zere's research for the plot to continue. Clearly he now wants Crane dead, right? Apparently not, because when Crane is literally a doomed man because his antizin magically disappeared due to earlier braindead writing, he... Gives him antizin? Why...? He's literally got him pinned with a dozen gunmen and doesn't even need them because Crane is seconds away from turning by himself, and then he saves him? Absolutely nonsensical. Worst plot writing ever. And it doesn't end there. How about those firebombs? Remember when you set off that pattern explosion to prove there's still survivors in the quarantine zone? The ministry sends its bombers to break that building, and they happily oblige. Then later when they are about to blow the city, Crane reaches out to them and says there's still survivors in Harran, causing sudden surprise and making them rebel against their orders. What?! They literally already knew there were still survivors left! They were happy to cover it up in fact! Even if they weren't the same pilots, such things go around. It'd be a well known fact for them. Why are they suddenly so shocked? I could go on. DL1 is the worst written game I've ever played. It's okay because the combat and parkour was awesome, but even though DL2's story was mid and far from what was promised, by virtue of being mid it is leagues ahead of the first game.

[@TheStraightestWhitest]

@Rosie ''and the missions diversify after a while (good grappling hook, etc) the environment become adapted to the parkour you've build up after a while and still looks good like a real city'' I literally thought you were talking about DL2 until I read your comment again. How does what you say not apply to DL2 also? And as a matter of fact, DL1 is the one that never adapts to your grappling hook since it is a gameplay element rather than a story one. You get it from Survivor level 12 and max it out at max Survivor level. It isn't a story thing and has zero effect on it. The parkour doesn't adapt at all, you can do everything with basic survivor level and no tools, whereas it does in DL2 where you need the grappling hook and paraglider for multiple setpieces. So I don't understand what you mean DL1 adapted the environment as you went on. It didn't. DL2 did. No offense, but this is exactly what I meant to illustrate with my first comment as well. That people have rose-tinted goggles when it comes to the first game. You are literally mistaking the accolades of DL2 for those of DL1. You are praising DL1 for something it didn't do while DL2 did, and criticising DL2 for something DL2 didn't do but DL1 did. Hilarious.

[@domesticdragonwaffle]

@@TheStraightestWhitest dude you can't be taken seriously when you deliberately get Story elements wrong. The GRE didn't stop because "survivors were in harran" but that Crane had Zeres cure in development. That's first. Second, Rais and his contradictions are him trying to get Crane to think for himself which comes forward WITH that ending, because he tells the GRE that they do what HE says now or he'll reveal they started the virus. The paragliding is an idiotic addition as it removes a lot of the actual fear in this series. The grappling hook is such an abysmal downgrade from DL1 its embarrassing. The OG grapple hook was made mostly to improve the parkour and give you the feeling of being Pseudo-Spider-Man. The New one is a rope that you swing from that you can only climb up not even halfway up the length of the rope. DL2s is absolutely pathetic is every way compared to the first, in all ways but a few gameplay mechanics and if you used basic objective research, you would understand it, but you have something I call, poison tinted glasses, because you hated it yourself, you can't get passed your own problems with it to look on an objective ground comparing the two games, and call anyone who actually sees its a better game with better writing people who "are wearing rose tinted glasses."

[@Sharkaiju]

I honestly love that instill of fear games like RE7 and Dying Light had. It reminded me of being a kid who played his first horror game and you feel you’re only safety is to turn the game off. I feel like that really puts you into the setting, slowly and eventually conquering your fear and beat the game. That was an amazing feeling to me that’s so hard to capture nowadays

[@Gmex_ONE]

Me too 😉

[@wjveryzer7985]

I was honestly shocked at the changes. They KNEW what we LOVED and what worked. THan took little ALL of it out!? Nighttime, volatiles, guns, buggys i could go on and on

[@Mike4-4]

Ok

[@Dar1usz]

But you have roaming volatiles, nighttime, guns were op in DY1 so dunno what you are writing about

[@zoomrrmcgee]

Bro the buggy was a DLC thing and wasn't even a main part of the game, I played about 50-60 hours of base game before playing following and don't believe it is essential to this game either

[@pantommy]

Not guns, absolutely not guns. Maybe guns worked in the following, but in base DL1 guns broke the flow of the game and made combat trivial since you could just headshot everything from afar.

[@Journey_to_who_knows]

@@pantommy the crossbow is superior to every gun in 1

[@XeClutchh]

I don’t know about everyone else, but the fact that firearms just DON’T exist in Dying light 2 does bother me. It’s obviously not the biggest issue at all, but I just don’t understand how firearms don’t exist. Considering there’s a blunt hammer with a pistol built into the end of it, to be used as a blunt weapon. I dunno 🤷‍♂️

[@mtnd02.06]

Well after 15 years ammo does run out, not everyone is skilled or has the equipment to make it anymore. And the Towns people were burning a shit ton of old world crap when you first meet them so I wouldn't be surprised if knowledge was lost this way as well. But that's one of the few things I'll really defend in game.

[@heavylegs5686]

@@mtnd02.06 That's just lazy writing, you can craft actual grenades and explosives in game but the humans are too stupid to make bullets?

[@tristanstebbens1358]

@@heavylegs5686 do you actually know how hard it is to make ammunition?? It itself isn't difficult once you know what you're doing, but very few people do in the real world, more so in a fictional apocalypse. Hence making yourself a target in various ways if you do know. Regardless of that, even if you make ammunition you still need to store it, maintain it, and use it. God forbid you tried using dodgy ammo for a DIY gun you're not sure is designed to fit the caliber or even robust enough to use in the first place. So many things can go wrong, especially when there's no access to precision equipment used to make this type of stuff or standardisation. Imagine buying ammo and its all different calibers or some are duds cause it doesn't have enough gunpowder. Ontop of all that, in both DL games it attracts zombies. With this many potential downsides, there's understandably not really a demand nor interest in ammunition except for the massive cache potentially hidden by the colonel (because its all stored properly and standardised quality to a point that they're actukaly useful).

[@heavylegs5686]

@@tristanstebbens1358 bruh the game has zombies and the main character is a genetic freak. Don't bother bringing realism to justify shitty writing. Also even if realism was applicable to this fictional video game someone was autistic enough to Jerry rigg a car trap to kill zombies I'm sure someone is also autistic enough to create a home Depot blunder bust out of pipes and duct tape with trash as ammunition.

[@mr.tiddlewiddles7689]

I thought it to be a retarded attempt an excuse to disallow the usage of firearms throughout DL2 - claiming the military confiscated weapons and ammunition to use them in battle against the infected, only to then run out of ammunition and see most of the city become overrun due to a lack of defense. That was nothing more than trash writing - would have been much smarter for them to overhaul the infrastructure of the city in the time of world-wide infection for the production of only basic goods, and direct it more so toward ammunition and weapon production, along with arming the populace to ensure they were able to defend themselves in the event the military efforts would fail, or to allow the military to conscript and obfuscate the need for providing weapons and ammunition - just saying "hey grab your gun and head to the training officer" and getting a new recruit. That also would have allowed them to perpetually defend the city from the onslaught of the infected hordes without a fear of running out of ammunition for an extended period of time - perhaps even allowing them to endure and remain a fully functioning city all the up until the events of DL2 came to pass. The disarming of the populace angle was nothing more than retardation to force the removal of guns from the player - that served for nothing other than removal of an entire play-style for no reason, and undermining the quality of their own game through the matters of both lore and world building, too.

[@Jauly]

And you even did not mention that every damn building or shop in free exploration (apart from special missions) has absolutely the same looking interior and room order. You know one, you know the whole city.

[@mrhouse4479]

I just hated the heavy rpg elements overall in dl2, it just ruined the game for me personally. I also agree with the combat from the first one is better, you could have a grey busted pipe and still kill zombies with well placed 1 hit kill or maybe a couple of good swings. Dl2 it doesn't matter

[@bofa722]

Yeah they combat tin the first game felt very heavy, crunchy and like your hits were actually hitting the zombies, so to speak. In the second game it just feels like you're swinging and not really hitting them, doesn't feel heavy at all, nor does it feel good. Really sucks how in the first game I'd just fight a bunch of zombies for the sake of it, since it was very fun, but in the second id rather just avoid fighting them unless necessary. Don't know how anyone though it was fun at all in the sequel. Human vs human combat is way better in DL2 forsure tho, those bastards in the first game felt so unfair and tedious to fight

[@ADISTOD3MUS]

EPG?😯

[@fabiowillot6763]

@@bofa722 bro in the first game the fight was so broken for me - I got a weapons with infinite bullets and do a insane damage that could wipe some volatiles out and tbh I like more how the fights are in dl2 but I don't really like that you can't repair the weapons :^ also the thing what the most annoying for me it's the infection in the night , it's like the phantoms in minecraft that will force you to sleep :^

[@miketexas4549]

All they needed to do was take everything about dying light one and bring it into the second game and reskin a few things and make a couple of giant maps and it would have been a home run. But no, they gave us this unrelated, boring, empty garbage pile of a game.

[@tfyk5623]

The combat from the first was not as good. The way the second way one includes parkore and combat is done much better.

[@ssscout]

dying light 2 just wasn't for me. i love and respect techland, DL1 is my favorite game from 2015. but this sequel is just not for me at all

[@Mooskeet]

Leaves a bit of a sour taste in my mouth to call it a sequel too considering how much i adored DL1 :/ ah well

[@slayrix279]

Dying light 2 is soooooo much better than dying light 1. The first game is dumb because you’re not supposed to fight, you’re just supposed to run, you’re punished for using weapons because they break after like 10 hits and then can only be repaired like 2 times. Weapon mods were useless because they were rare and once your weapon broke that’s it, it’s completely gone. Every weapon up until the last act of the game just tickles the normal zombies and don’t even try to take on raiders either cause you and your puny weapons won’t be strong enough until the story says so. Guns just completely ruin the combat, well I guess not ruin but actually give you a fighting chance, but one that absolutely isn’t fun. What I mean by ruin is they make melee weapons completely obsolete. Also once guns are introduced they are placed everywhere and you’re given bountiful amounts of ammo from the many raiders who all also have guns and bunches of ammo. Why use melee when you have an entire inventory of ARs and 1000s of rounds of ammo and are also one of the only weapons that actually give you a fighting chance. Side missions are completely boring, mostly consisting of fetch quests like the one where you have to steal pills from a mentally ill person. None of them are even worth it either as all they give is money which you can spend on weapons that again, will break after like 10 hits and can only be repaired 2 or 3 times, or they will just give you yet again another mediocre weapon, or weapon mod that will vanish once you’ve used your 20 hit total weapon. The story is so predictable and anticlimactic, the final mission is tedious as hell, making you do all sorts of sketchy and weird parkour moves while trying to avoid a shit ton of zombies, after all the awkward parkour segments you get to the climax of the game where you kill off the main bad guy in a QTE and that’s it, no boss fight, no nothing, then the game just ends, very anticlimactically. There just isn’t much to like about the first game, the story wasn’t all that compelling, it ended kinda shitty, and even after all of that the efforts of the main protagonist are obviously useless cause at the end of the day humanity falls to zombies anyways. the parkour was pretty good and is what kept me playing to the end despite all my complaints about it. Dying light 2 fixing literally all of that, weapons do damage, you can choose to either fight OR run, not just run, combat is better, the gore is better, they removed guns completely, story is much better and has replay ability because of the 7 different endings that exist, the parkour is 100x better, the side missions actually are good and feel connected to the story other than just being boring fetch quests. To me it’s just all around a better game.

[@xijin1384]

@@slayrix279 you have no taste

[@charasmaticcritic1731]

​@@slayrix279 you have no taste

[@kitapkalem2010]

​@@slayrix279You dont enjoy the game dl1 is wqy better and you have no taste

[@Jimbitul]

even with guns and rifles, I would still be scared to be in the night with a group of volatile chasing me

[@jarednewman7823]

I'm currently doing a second playthrough of DL2. And man, can I not stand how fictional it feels. It's a nitpick, but there's fucking after effects on regular, unmodified weapons. Actual swinging after effects. The HP bars are distracting, the fact the infected no longer scale with story progression is disheartening, there's no real reason to do any side activities if it weren't for the fact that some of them, GRE buildings and Anomalies, are required to be able to upgrade your skill tree, which feels extremely artificial this time around. The parkour is clunky, and there's no dedicated sprint button, which means Aiden is just casually jogging everywhere. There's obviously working cars, so why the hell can't we have one? There's no actual world changing decisions as were promised outside of deciding who gets a specific water tower or electrical plant. Aiden is supposedly stronger, faster and more durable than everyone else, but he literally gets punched in every cutscene leading up to a fight. The antagonists aren't even a sixteenth as threatening or intimidating as Rais and his gang. Waltz is just kind of there most of the time, I will admit, though, seeing him beat the hell out of Aitor and his men like they were nothing was very scary. But the Renegades. What the hell are you doing with theirr voices? It's so bad that when I first heard one of them, I had to actually pause the game so I could take time to cringe at the generic evil mean Saturday morning cartoon villain voice I heard. It was like Taz from the Looney Tunes meets Vaudeville. Aiden sound like just a depressed Kyle Crane. The "good guys" (Survivors) and "bad guys" (Peacekeepers) seem to not have gotten the memo of how their stereotypes are supposed to act. No "good guy" ever treats you nicely unless it solely benefits them, and no "bad guy" ever tries to kill you unless you actively provoke them. Nothing about Aiden's backstory is interesting, so why did they feel the need to include so many pointless, mind numbingly boring flashbacks? And it turns out that none of what Aiden remembers is fucking real. And, I probably state the obvious here, but in no reality should I see the words "Leaving Mission Area" in a game that was and still is heavily advertised as free roam, open world. Because that's saying "Sure, go on and explore freely... The linear progression of areas dictated by the half-baked narrative. Any farther than the very small boundaries isn't allowed and you will be killed if you stay there longer than 5 seconds."

[@AlbertRei3424]

Then go read a book man

[@inateinate]

There is a spint button, it's just locked in the skill tree. Also, he's running everywhere. He's absolutely faster than Crane ever was.

[@iker9148]

You can literally turn off the health bars man just stfu and stop complaining

[@captainhydra4291]

​@bibich8410 how about stfu and take criticism and leave people to complain

[@Fakumanygy]

I can say that i paused the game and fucking laughed for a good minute when I found out that Aiden memories weren't exactly what they were. The whole plot of the game is that Aiden is trying to find his sister that he made a promise to and then it turns out that the promise was made actually to another person and not his sister. Very unfucking unique

[@N0tAFed]

In short, DL2 is IMO best described as "one step forward and two steps back"

[@meikatakitei]

The prologue is the best part of the game

[@vinicius284]

I think you forgot a major point: at least for me the parkour felt clumsy (not to mention the zero gravity feel) and that was the main selling point of the original game, hell even the PvP in the first game implemented the parkour better than DL2 map, you didnt need to have a specific move to reach something, you had to figure it out on your own.

[@ExtremeMan10]

True, when you use parkour against Night Hunter its really good and smooth

[@ltchugacast131]

Something that frustrates me about dying light 2 is that they mislead the player as to what story they are going to be told. many lines or plot threads seem to point in completely different directions and when you see the direction the game actually wants to take it’s so much less than what you were being primed for. Just as an example the original attempt on the VNC Tower and the night Runner organization as a whole. From the way the game focuses on the night runners and the former members of the night runners you would think that they would make the night runners a part of the story but they are mentioned a couple of times and then forgotten about until the very end of the game almost like they actually forgot about them. When the other night runners that we have been told about just showed up as if they just solved their differences off camera I was very disappointed I as the player served no part in getting those people on my side and convincing them to help. It really felt like a lot of the plot was gutted and have backed shitty patch jobs were filled in the gaps. I was waiting the entire game for a quest line of rebuilding the night runner brotherhood and using them to find Waltz. By the time I beat the game I feel like the games story never even really truly got off the ground. I was going through the game not paying attention to how long I was spending playing it and I kept thinking OK the story is going to pick up at some point but right as I thought the story was picking up the credits roll. Couple that with the sensory overload of random pointless things to do the lack of funny or clever Easter eggs and the absolutely neutered night and horde systems, The game just isn’t fun for me. With the first game I chased that feeling of being hunted that the original cinematic trailer for the game gave off, in practice the game has its moments but I was hoping that the sequel would improve upon that only to discover a night that looks more like twilight and all of the risk and danger removed. All they had to do to make the infection work was keep everything the same about the zombies except them going inside during the day and coming outside during the night, then give the volatiles enough speed to hunt down the player. It should require expert level parkour skills and understanding to successfully escape a volatile on your tail. All I have to do in either game is climb to the roof and then run around the corner. I have to go out of my way to let a chase continue I very rarely feel like I’ve truly “escaped” a chase. I want that white knuckle pulse pounding feeling that you see in the run boy run trailer where you don’t have time to look around or think it is simply instinct an action or die. The just had to make the volatiles faster but they practically took them out of the game.

[@midoriyaweed5508]

True

[@DJWeapon8]

I blame it on Chris Avellone getting falsely accused of sexual harassment and getting cancelled. Hope he sues the ever loving shit out of everyone thst wronged him.

[@AhmadWahelsa]

@@DJWeapon8 Agreed, bro wrote KOTOR 2 and New Vegas, Dying Light 2 doesn't even makes sense and that was the clear indication that his touches were gone

[@skullyboi1215]

Damn didnt notice any of these problems due to having fun kicking people and zombies from rooftops

[@av17bestchannelonyoutube66]

*I'm a huge Dying Light 1 fan and I've been trying to do a series for Dying Light 2 but I got kind of burnt out on it, I definitely enjoyed the gameplay that it offers and exploring the open world but in this video you've definitely put the last nail in the coffin to why Dying Light 2 is a pretty generic zombie game in terms of it's story and why it could of been better and I can definitely agree with everything that you said in this well made video you put a lot of hard work into it and you're definitely an underrated channel, keep going no matter how much attention you get, you'll reach your milestones soon enough, I definitely know what it feels like to get very little attention on videos you spend hours on, thank you for sharing what you think of the game, thank you for sharing your constructive criticism, you are definitely getting an extra subscriber from me and I'm definitely looking forward to the next video, keep up the good work* :)

[@abdomayman]

I'm just a random viewer who is happy that your channel blown up from 200 views to 150k. great job man.

[@mrxcs]

430K now.

[@GoddessOfMisfortune]

12:42 I can't believe you predicted parkour society

[@TannerPerida19]

Honestly bro, I can’t believe how small of a KZbinr you are. I sat here watching this video like you were my favorite KZbinr with a million subscribers. You have unmatched potential to become a huge content creator. I love the videos you produce, how raw you are, and how absolutely honest your videos feel. There’s not an over-the-top amount of editing, no stupid jokes when they’re not needed, and even the best connection I’ve ever felt between me and a KZbinr. Normally there’s no connection, I just feel like I’m watching something. But with this video I felt like I could sit down and have a conversation with you about how our experiences were similar and different like you were right next to me. Keep up the hard work man!

[@lucasbuckley7755]

Since there’s never enough positivity I figured I’d say I agree with that. You definitely seem to know what you’re talking about as far as game dev goes and you’re on point with the comparisons of both games. Keep it up man

[@inreisen]

Another point that no one talked about is that DL2 has no real guns. In DL1 we had Pistols, Shotguns, Assault Rifles etc. Those guns were not top tier in terms of satisfaction but was another variety for combat. I loved DL1 when I first saw it and played exactly 310 hours according to my Steam stats. I was 14-15 years old back in 2015 and I was terrifying so much when I see my first Volatile, yeah, that airdrop mission. It was so intense. This year, DL2 came out, I am 20-21 years old and was so excited to play DL2 after beating DL1 many times that I couldn't count anymore. I first started DL2 and played that Hakon first night mission I sensed that something was wrong. Melee combat was not as good as DL1's. Parkour Combat was great for sure that's okay. But... Hit registration, hitting feel was not good. Story was weird because the events in DL1 were obsolete now(this was sooooo dissapointing) and I couldn't see Crane as a Night Hunter or Volatile in game. There are so many wrong things that I cannot explain all of it otherwise my comment won't end. I loved DL1 and played exactly 310 hours. But I couldn't even finished DL2 because I get bored after doing the same sh*ts for only god knows how many times. I played DL2 for 45 hours. Still good yeah but couldn't finished the game. I watched its endings and its new location underwater. I wasn't satisfied. I hope they will at least give us a DLC like The Following in DL1 which was insanely good...

[@Mike4-4]

Ok

[@nolives]

The last boss literally just ran back and forth for us between two hazards zones. We had to shoot him with arrows as he quickly ran by. You arent missing much by skipping the end

[@jarednewman7823]

I mean, it's realistic that there's no more guns. Who's gonna make them if the world has ended. Who's gonna make the bullets? Where would the materials come from? But it's a zombie game. Realism left the moment they said zombies.

[@manofculture3638]

@@jarednewman7823 brazil people who make guns from pipes and shit just exist to prove you wrong, btw ammo can be produced with little to no technology, you can wrap your random piece of lead and gunpowder that you can produce using a shitton of chemicals left by civilization into goddamn paper casings. There are so much resources left from the old world, it's just stupid writing that no-one uses guns, they are clearly superior when you face human enemies and there is nothing that will stop people from killing each other the most efficient way, the ones with guns would be kings, don't try to justify stupid ass writing with logic, it just fails here.

[@nolives]

@@jarednewman7823 fun > realism every time. Also its not like dying light 2 is the most realistically grounded game, im not even talking about the fantasy aspects which shouldnt have to be realistic, im talking about the literal physics of the floaty parkour. Jumping out of a skyscraper by landing on a zombie and surviving isnt super realistic. But it is fun!

[@Uriel238]

I have two dying light stories. The first one is learning how to beat the day hordes once I got the head-stomp skill. I'd stand on top of a car and as an infected climbed up they'd put their head low enough to target, and I'd say aloud _boot to the head!_ and fatality the zombie. My grandson (then, four years old) found this _absolutely hilarious_ and there'd be giggle fits that lasted an hour sometimes because the zombies just kept coming. _Boot to the head! Boot to the head! ._ Five stars would play with grandson again. The other was learning that the craftable fast-running potion allowed me to outrun the night stalkers. And the craftable see-everything potion allowed me to see where I was going while running fast, so I'd just make sure by day I had enough juice to do laps around the level and I would. I hit the level cap just doing crap and got bored with the story once I had to start dealing with the gangs of evil. The villain dude felt like the Far Cry villains that seem to know they're a cutscene-only plot device you never get to touch before the boss fight.

[@MaangePeenge]

This was very good. I felt it the moment i started playing. I kicked a zombie over a cliff and instead of fall and swinging it’s arms around, the the “I got kicked” animation just kept playing while it fell down and hit the surface underneath and when the animation was done, it ragdolled. At that moment i knew, that this was not the game i wanted.

[@themightycrixus1131]

Most of the time I played DL1 I had my headset on and the environmental sounds and ambiance had me looking behind myself in real life. I would get up and check my front door or look out the window.... It just would sound so realistic. The immersion is insane. That is completely missing in DL2. I noticed it very quickly. I also had tons of issues where I had to close the entire game because i wouldnt let me start several missions [it would just say unavailable or something]

[@SodaScarf]

I was terrified of night in DL1. That fear carried over into DL2 as I expected the same, but the longer I played it the more I realized oh… it’s not as scary as the first

[@aReallySwellGuy]

Hearing the resident evil seven developers saying their game was too scary explains why no game is as scary anymore

[@sicskillz12]

The amount of times aiden gets punched in the face by some bum after a conversation is what really annoyed me Especially when you remember what crane was able to do to raise when he was captured InThe first game , aiden is supposed to be a badass superhuman crane but gets sucker punched in every scripted moment in the game lol

[@totalguardian1436]

Honestly that moment with Rais was still stupid and cliché

[@z0tl410]

Facts every conversation end up with aiden getting punched

[@knightinthewoods9170]

DL1 actually felt grounded and somewhat real, DL2 feels like you’re in a third party written comic book. After my first few hours of playing, I had to double check to see if it was even made by the same developers. Side note: I hated that you had to “earn” getting the night volatiles by getting into a long enough chase like it’s a GTA wanted level. It really nerfed the night segment which basically killed the whole point of what separated dying light from other zombie games. When I’m was playing 2, I didn’t second guess myself about going outside like I did in 1.

[@Alyrael]

This game really feels like it went through redevelopment several times, and by the time they realized they didn't have a whole lot of time left to finish it, they took what they had, threw it together in a mostly presentable fashion, and then hired a celebrity VA to further garnish the doughy shit cake they ended up baking. They could've given us more of DL: The Following; the atmosphere, the music, the fun. They could've given us what they presented at E3; the craftsmanship, deeper story, cinematic presentation. But no, we got this. I played it. I beat it. And I'm still upset at the lost potential.

[@attackcrash655]

The potential of this game is far from lost. The devs have consistently been working to improve the game and add more for thee players, reworking in game missions, adding completely new and improving existing cutscenes, even adding new easter eggs sometimes in updates, they also ask fans on Twitter what they'd like to see in the game. For example people hated the fog that appears around the map after you do the Veronika mission and since people didn't like it they fixed it (except for the main one at the vnc tower cause it's gotta be there) and it's clear they aren't gonna just drop the game, they've announced a ton of new content in the works for the game, new multiplayer modes are confirmed, be the zombie is likely one of them since techland actually listens to the community and knows people really want it back, other pvp and pve modes are being worked on although we don't know what they'll be just that they're doing them, more night runner content, we know we're getting more then one major DLC so thats gonna be huge, and more stuff that is being worked on aswell. I very rarely see a dev studio that has made reworks to a game involving cutscenes, music, and missions and the story itself and actually puts the effort and MONEY into a game that they could have just said "yep we made good money now let's move on", there was that one mmo and then no man's sky which did this but those are the only other two I can think of

[@GuilhermeSantos-sd5uw]

@@attackcrash655 unless they completely rewrite the story and make the choices actually matter and not be a dumb black and white thing with cartoon villains, then the game is lost- quality-of-life updates don't stop the core game, especially story-wise, from being complete and utter shit. Reminder that the story, life-changing choices and moral ambiguity was the selling point of the game, which is all gone.

[@Puddskye.]

@@GuilhermeSantos-sd5uw lmao the "black and white" cartoon villains actually impressed me and tons more,i really don't see why you wouldn't like many characters and events, since there are around 5-6 if not more endings depending on major choices, yet not the only ones that matter being major

[@GuilhermeSantos-sd5uw]

@@Puddskye. "pick between this shitty ending and 5 more"

[@Puddskye.]

@@GuilhermeSantos-sd5uw bro really hates the game lmao, the endings weren't good from the aiden perspective, that's it.

[@kp-legacy-5477]

The fight in dying light 2 where the guy is holding the door and you get saved by the lights. I laughed very hard when I played that mission since I didn't actually need to be saved I killed all the zombies as they came

[@Cris-dm1nt]

I remember hearing about dying light back when it came out, and i did not have a pc good enough to play it as a teenager, and i only played it on my friend's computer together. Soon it's going to be 3 years since he passed away, i still enjoy dl1 a lot and for me it will always bring up good memories. Gameplay is awesome too.

[@halocraze9839]

What happened to him?

[@Cris-dm1nt]

@@halocraze9839 He commited suicide.

[@GameBoyyearsago]

@@Cris-dm1nt So sad, he really needed some accompany : )

[@goods_gamingplays6433]

I thought you were joking when you mentioned the 200 views and only 5 subscribers. You have a big ammount of potential, I hope you'll get popular and that you wont waste it. Your videos are high quality.

[@jeffcastle235]

You nailed it, totally. The entirety of me playing DL2 was me missing playing DL1 and I immediately replaced it after.

[@belltolls1984]

Not gonna lie; that recap of the first mission from DL1 brought back some fond memories; I was so stressed and scared the first time being out at night; I had some fun times with DL1 back when it was first released.

[@Krosstic]

Okay but fifteen years into a world ending outbreak where zombies can scale a 90 degree wall in a second flat why the fuck WOULDNT everyone know parkour?

[@N1njaSnake]

Techland is a company ruled by an aging guy who brooks no disagreement and has surrounded himself with sycophants. During the development of D1 there were still people who kept challenging him and who knew their craft. They're long gone.

[@Senumunu]

i doubt all of these side missions about gay couples would be in the game if it was up to one aging polish guy.

[@SoaR2COLDFNYT]

@@Senumunu Its owned by a 49 year old polish man so not "old" but I dont think he leads game design anyways plus not all old people are bigots

[@Senumunu]

@@SoaR2COLDFNYT you can oppose gayness for reasons that are not bigotry. it makes no sense in the setting. even if you were gay in that setting you would acknowledge that you have a duty to create children. that actually could have been an interesting topic the game explores. instead its "find the dildo of my gay husband/wife and bring it to me" corny.

[@void7837]

he is literally what they wanted to get away from when working with deep silver

[@CarltonMasonNorwood]

Like anything Zombie. It's doomed to decay...

[@dragons_red]

To me the biggest crimes of the game was them advertising a game we didn't get in both look/feel and "choices". After they went dark from the 2018/2019 media hype with Avellone, they came back and never said "hey, here's an update on the game to what has changed", and they kept heavily promoting the "choices matter like no other game before". One could see the art/look of the game was somewhat different than before in the small snippets they gave, but all I could conclude was we are possibly seing the game at a different time of the story, because those first trailers showed your choices drastically affecting the look of the world. They needed to refine their formula for the first game, and instead decided to just bite off way more than they could chew and go super ambitious which was their undoing. This game (similar to the first, but worse) reeks of half finished all over the place. In both games you can see way more detail and completion in the first acts, and then the rest feels like copy paste rush job without as much fleshed out, like they got bogged down and then rushed to the deadline. At least the firstnwas playable qt launch, DL2 was a cluster F even after multiple delays. At this point, DL2 isn't a bad game, the core mechanics and special events are fun, the same stuff that kept the first going. I just wish they hadn't BS'd it so much because (like Cyberpunk) all I can see is a game that isn't what it promised to be.

[@killme943]

"Biggest crime is advertising a game that we didnt recive" Bro watch e3 2019 and look in the corner. "Subjective is suspected to change"

[@Eschatologygroup]

Dying light 3 should take place during the Fall

[@randyquaid3381]

That clip of Walt saying "run" when the first night came was 100% perfect lol

[@andreidragostin]

No game I've ever played made a safe zone feel like a safe zone like DL1. That feeling like you're 20 yards away from not dying

[@raunaq95]

No Alan wake did

[@cool-guye]

Dying light two is basically just whittling down a health bar instead of dying light one where if you had a certain weapon like an axe or a sword you could almost one shot enemies by decapitating them

[@MsSharondenadel]

06:45 Fun fact, the actor voicing and being the model for Hakon is an actual real life yamakazi who brought the parkour in the early 2000's. If you think he does impossible moves in game, watch the intro sequence of "Banlieue 13" a movie from 20 years ago, and be amazed. Oh he also is the stunt director from both dying light games :)

[@johnnydamn3923]

The side quest with the guy’s looping radio recording in the electrical station was soooooo stupid. Aiden literally says “he must’ve recorded it years ago and it started looping when the power came back on…woah!” 😂😂😂

[@mark-gj4mb]

When I started DL2 I was basically blind. Played DL1 and loved it. Saw health bars on enemies and a tedious crafting system and dropped it halfway through. The biggest thought at the front of my mind the whole game was "man, I wanna play dying light 1"

[@Kajnake]

I like how all your points cut sharp and then salt the wound, very visceral, almost as much as all the zombie guts flinging around the screen!

[@coolguyponus]

I'm having so much fun in DL2, but I really feel like DL1 hit a spot that DL2 can't touch. When I play the second game, I miss the first game the whole time... it's like breaking up with someone you loved for someone you really like. It's not the same.

[@GGTM70]

Also the “whole choices effecting your story” (joke) makes the lack of substance more irritating

[@ArronKray]

"After cracking open a cold one with the cold ones" That line killed me!

[@tjd6801]

What made me upset was that the idea they tell you of in that opening cutscene and stage is SO MUCH BETTER of a game concept. Being a pilgrim that has to use their wits and parkour skills and crafting skills to make what they need to go from settlement to settlement, bearing hate or desperation everywhere you go to keep the world connected as the worlds most bad ass postman was such a cool idea they toss up, then just go, oh yeah your in a big city with walls again go have fun. It made me sad that their back story is like the natural evolution to the games base concept. But they immediately went back to stomped ground. Could you imagine trying ti find the safe routes to new towns, some times putting yourself at the risk that, maybe you wont be able to make a safe place by night, and now you have to stealth or run you way to a safety that may not be out there nearby. Slowly making some routes safe by building up safe houses and so on. Instead its just the original game with worse story, jankier controls, and way more bugs. And a faction system that many hours in so far barely effects anything other than trying to make you feel bad for every choice you make. While having people all act like massive dick bags to you for being a pilgrim, even after you like, save their children 20 times over.

[@evzenkastl6386]

I like your idea, then establishing nightrunner bases in new towns, training them. The story should have been about that. Still i think the story in dl2 up to vnc tower has balls and is much better then the one in dl1. Combat i liked in first more, parkour and level design i like in the second more. The dropkick is so much fun to use in the first game.

[@PinkManGuy]

The story sucks because Chris Avelone (famous writer of Fallout 1&2, Planescape Torment) had a jilted lover who was never raised to handle relationships privately. Lying about some stuff he did. Because Techland wanted to virtual signal before the facts were clear, they fired him and rewrote the whole story in like... a week.

[@acetrigger1337]

DL2 is the most "just a paycheck" game of all-time. there was no passion in it... and all that remained was resentment.

[@trippy0752]

I have a complaint about dying light 2 that I don't think I've heard very often and it's the fact that in dying light 2 I can never fucking tell where I am or where I'm going. In dying light one the old town, the starting map and the countryside were all very easy to orient yourself in. I remember most of the first map like the back of my hand and I feel like it's because most areas had a large defining structure you could orient yourself around like the bridge or the tower but it extends further than that, like changes in building structure that can help you figure out which part of the city you're in. Villedor doesn't have this and it pisses me off and leaves me looking at the map every 10 minutes to figure out what the hell happened.

[@Femtos]

Because the whole damn game is copy pasted to hell and back with maybe a few unique landmarks. You can paraglide about and not be able to tell what zone you just entered because everything looks the bloody same!

[@sp3kt3r]

I totally agree, I was able to walk/run through the map without having to open the map view. DL2 is just copy and paste of multiple environment to a point that I'm sometime wondering if I just came back from here ? Also my biggest complaint is WHY they make it a FAR CRY game ! I played enough far cry that I don't need another game that requires unlocking settlement/tower to unlock the map etc... we didn't have that in DL1.. if people like that kind of stuff, stick with FAR CRy !!! Also the upgrade skill are boing and repetitive compared to DL1. They focused too much on parkour quest and speaking of side quest... they are %#$@?@ STUPID !!! (DL1 has some boring quest) but in DL2 they made it WORST!!!!!! so grinding and so useless and way too much talking... most of the time I skip them and in DL1 I didn't skip a single one.

[@enzobading2078]

3:48 so no one's gonna talk about Hakon look like Mr. Beast

[@finnwarner2977]

The only thing I honestly love about dying light 2 was the music and how it would fluctuate based on you jumping, running, and other parkour shit