Privacy Specialist Responds to John Oliver's "Data Brokers" Segment!

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@LikeElsie
@LikeElsie 2 жыл бұрын
In the face of overwhelming "why should I care" attitudes toward this matter and the growing power of the profiteers, I am really happy this is being talked about. Great stuff.
@sammydepresso
@sammydepresso 2 жыл бұрын
I'm glad that you explain the concepts in more detail, I'm sure this John Oliver segment will definitely open some peoples eyes, hopefully people will find this video and learn more. :D
@IVI4V3R1CK
@IVI4V3R1CK 2 жыл бұрын
That's how I found this video; through the Jon Oliver segment, this appeared on my homepage.
@JustinWillisDevil240Z
@JustinWillisDevil240Z 2 жыл бұрын
I did!
@SnepBlepVR
@SnepBlepVR 2 жыл бұрын
I do love how John always gives people the broadish spectrum, though he does kinda dig into some places that are “bullet points.” Prompting people to do more research. Those people who don’t dig further never cared to begin with.
@cozmothemagician7243
@cozmothemagician7243 2 жыл бұрын
@@IVI4V3R1CK yeah, the IRONY is that I would not have seen this vid except for the fact that utube showed me (;
@katiekane5247
@katiekane5247 2 жыл бұрын
Opened this tech goober granny's eyes!
@JoshuaC0rbit
@JoshuaC0rbit 2 жыл бұрын
I'm ashamed to admit that I spent a few years in marketing and would routinely have to pull lists from data brokers for targeted marketing purposes. This was back in about 2005 and even then I could tell you every woman that was planning to get married who had an income of $50,000 in a certain zip code. I would call up our data brokers and ask them for any metrics that our clients wanted and we could get an Excel spreadsheet within a day.
@ultimomos5918
@ultimomos5918 2 жыл бұрын
I know you were just doing your job and that it was relatively early in the days of online marketing so you probably couldn't have possibly guessed the scale that data harvesting would grow to but you're absolutely correct and it's only gotten much weirder and much, much more specific. Corporate power has gone unchecked for far too long.
@JoshuaC0rbit
@JoshuaC0rbit 2 жыл бұрын
@@ultimomos5918 I saw the warning signs because I dabbled in the dark arts of exploratory computer activities since the early 90s so I saw the potential for misuse even then. I got creeped out when I found out how much power that these marketing companies have. Did you know that they have the entire United States categorized into 16 different personality types? And it's freaky accurate.
@ultimomos5918
@ultimomos5918 2 жыл бұрын
@@JoshuaC0rbit doesn’t surprise me at all actually. Suffice it to say I work for one of the big social media companies and the amount of user metrics I have access to is scary. To his point here, even if it were depersonalized it’s incredibly easy to correlate data points and determine who’s actually using what and where. And all of it just to sell you useless shit or, god forbid, locate you at any given moment. These corporations basically programmed their way into our pockets.
@chickensandwich8808
@chickensandwich8808 2 жыл бұрын
definitely the second gilded age.
@peachybuttercrunch4409
@peachybuttercrunch4409 2 жыл бұрын
everyone needs a job.😏I used to bartend.
@hackladdy9886
@hackladdy9886 2 жыл бұрын
Any publicity around privacy is good publicity, and this is GREAT publicity.
@HaydenX
@HaydenX 2 жыл бұрын
I love the paradoxical nature of "publicity for privacy".
@I.____.....__...__
@I.____.....__...__ 2 жыл бұрын
8:56 De-anonymizing data is just like fingerprinting a browser; you only need to put together a few "anonymous" data-points to uniquely identify a person or a browser.
@alwaysbanned4812
@alwaysbanned4812 2 жыл бұрын
As you support the current thing. Good job npc flag
@trappedcat3615
@trappedcat3615 2 жыл бұрын
Browser fingerprinting cannot uniquely identify a person, but it can assist. Personal info has to be provided by the end user or exposed by a service.
@fabricio4794
@fabricio4794 2 жыл бұрын
@@alwaysbanned4812 blyat
@dgd947a15fl
@dgd947a15fl 2 жыл бұрын
Or in other words, the perfect anonymous computer doesn't help if you're posting about where you live and stuff on social media.
@TheUnreliableNarrator64
@TheUnreliableNarrator64 2 жыл бұрын
Do you think it would be insanity for us to request payment for our data? They talk about some "everyone gets a check" thing but just paying us pennies on the dollar for our data would end poverty. And if you think I'm crazy they would still be able to build ad databases if they made it an "opt in" thing for payment when collecting data. If everyone got their shit together for an actual worthwhile cause we could pressure them to do it.
@nidodson
@nidodson 2 жыл бұрын
My favorite is how Facebook claims they don't listen to you. I don't own a cat or have any reason for Facebook to give me ads about cat products. One day after talking about Facebook potentially listening to people through their phone app, I started talking about cat toys. Facebook started showing me ads for cat toys for a few days, something it never did before or since.
@babybirdhome
@babybirdhome 2 жыл бұрын
This might come as a surprise, but they actually don’t need to go the expense and trouble of listening to you to do creepy things like that. They can put them together through the data they already have that you provided them of your own accord by what you post, what you interact with, and who you interact with. The dots are all already there - they only connect them. The other thing that people always ignore is all the stuff that was targeted incorrectly. You see the correct targeted ads because you’re looking for them. You ignore the incorrect ones because you’re not looking for them. This gives you the false impression that they’re targeting you better than they actually are. Of course it also doesn’t help that you can’t usually tell how well you are really being targeted, because companies that do this have found that people don’t like it when they experience it because it’s creepy. So they deliberately salt the real targeting with bad targeting to make the real targeting disappear in the background noise.
@jmacd8817
@jmacd8817 2 жыл бұрын
@@babybirdhome Exactly. Im always surprised when Google, KZbin and other sites feed me commercials en espanol. Im a 50 something white guy that speaks exclusively English. I always wonder how and why I get strings of ads in Spanish. I don’t quite get it.
@unsuccessfulfatshow
@unsuccessfulfatshow 2 жыл бұрын
@Ryan Howe liar
@jewsco
@jewsco 2 жыл бұрын
I sometimes make fake Facebook profiles to play games and get the rewards. Even putting in fake info Facebook will still recommend people I know as friends. So they clearly are tracking you
@jewsco
@jewsco 2 жыл бұрын
@Ryan Howe exactly which was my point of how even putting on fake data meant nothing as they obviously know my IP address and can access my friends and family lists
@c182SkylaneRG
@c182SkylaneRG 2 жыл бұрын
Edward Snowden is a national hero. The fact that he's exiled to avoid Prison is the crime.
@Everth97
@Everth97 2 жыл бұрын
Don't worry they fixed this, better now?
@c182SkylaneRG
@c182SkylaneRG 2 жыл бұрын
@@Everth97 Near as I can tell, he's still exiled to Russia, so no, not better now.
@josepharmani5827
@josepharmani5827 2 жыл бұрын
No matter what the govt says, He's a fucking Hero in my book. The fact that we're not protesting for his safe return is a failure in our part as well 😔
@roscoedamuel1882
@roscoedamuel1882 2 жыл бұрын
that is literally not the crime
@haraldschuster3067
@haraldschuster3067 2 жыл бұрын
The sad thing is when you get - after explaining things - a response along the following line: "Well, I've got nothing to hide, has nothing to do with me" which completely ignores that they've opened themselves up to manilpulation. It's not about "having to hide something" - it's all about not providing professional manipulators cracks to sink their crowbars into.
@ultimomos5918
@ultimomos5918 2 жыл бұрын
I work in a field similar to this man and he's 100% spot on. It's pretty sad that this technology is completely unregulated and legislated by, frankly, boomers in their 60s and 70s who haven't the absolute faintest clue as to it's implications. We're now at a point where if you've ever gone online without some form of identity protection you've given massive amounts of personal data and analytics over to whatever companies you decided to visit while browsing and countless others. All so Amazon can target you more effectively for the sale of a waffle maker. It's fucking sad.
@CollinMcLean
@CollinMcLean 6 ай бұрын
This is why American lawmakers truly and deeply suck at their jobs. They are people writing laws about things they fundamentality do not understand using specious reasonings...
@Apathymiller
@Apathymiller 2 жыл бұрын
I was a skip chaser for chase Manhattan back in the day for several years and there almost nothing that cannot be found out about YOU! This was 20 yrs ago in sure its gotten soooo much easier to find info on people. The REALLY scarey thing to me is that law enforcement really no longer needs a warrant, they can just buy the data!
@wemblyfez
@wemblyfez 2 жыл бұрын
I've always loved Oliver's segments on issues and this one was no different. But I was happy to see another expert such as yourself break it down and confirm some of his points. Nice job; thanks for making this complicated issue a little easier to understand and offer some solutions.
@WulfLovelace
@WulfLovelace 2 жыл бұрын
I've known about this for years and people thought I was nanners. Its good to see this getting some public attention it deserves. Where I have struggled with is getting solutions made and passed.
@notme2day
@notme2day 2 жыл бұрын
But you see why politicians don't really want to tackle this. It's helps reach and target their demographics. Right up till they realize they're being tracked too.
@alanaflynn8878
@alanaflynn8878 2 жыл бұрын
Something that seems to get people to understand the concept of online privacy is "If a website is free, it's your information that's paying for it."
@jsib7489
@jsib7489 2 жыл бұрын
I believe John Oliver was going for possibility of the negative aspects of having total anonymity and lack of trackability especially businesses and those who are interested in doing nefarious deeds which can create a huge problem in the correct hands. But overall agreed that people should be allowed to have the default as privacy but allowed to not if they desire not to be private. First time viewer and I appreciate your candor.
@leadpaintchips9461
@leadpaintchips9461 2 жыл бұрын
There is a balance between privacy and accountability. There are some things that should not be done anonymously, while most things should be.
@jsib7489
@jsib7489 2 жыл бұрын
@@leadpaintchips9461 That is the conundrum that we have to determine before we should implement a blanketed law/practice, how do we determine where do we draw the line and legal/social/ethical dilemmas it can entail.
@leadpaintchips9461
@leadpaintchips9461 2 жыл бұрын
@@jsib7489 I agree fully, but as with most debates when it comes to legality/morality, very few are looking for the grey middle ground.
@Lawrence330
@Lawrence330 2 жыл бұрын
Security companies may be the "good guys" for now, helping their customers regain anonymity. However, soon they'll be the bad guys. This is the problem with capitalism coupled with ineffective and/or slow to react governmental intervention. By the time the government notices a problem, there will have been a dozen companies formed to "combat" the problem, companies whose livelihoods and existence are now threatened by government action. It's easy to see how the "good guys" soon become lobbyists, encouraging their pet politicians to maintain the status quo, allowing the companies to continue their fear-mongering and profitable operations, decrying the lack of privacy while simultaneously bankrolling efforts to minimize it (privacy).
@farishanafiah8461
@farishanafiah8461 2 жыл бұрын
I definitely welcome something like this. It's about time the public get their realization about the need for privacy.
@notme2day
@notme2day 2 жыл бұрын
But you see why politicians don't really want to tackle this. It's helps reach and target their demographics. Right up till they realize they're being tracked too.
@TootyFruityNinja
@TootyFruityNinja 2 жыл бұрын
I watched the John Oliver segment before seeing this. KZbin actually recommended your video because I watched the John Oliver segment. Love this content.
@_MrTV
@_MrTV 2 жыл бұрын
Haha I watched that and couldn't wait for your response. Awesome! Glad you liked it too and hopefully it'll help them make laws to care about privacy
@rais1953
@rais1953 2 жыл бұрын
Fully bought and paid for corporate politicians will legislate against commercial spying? Only as far as it impinges on their own privacy. No further than that.
@Ginokuma89
@Ginokuma89 2 жыл бұрын
Danke!
@paulaOyeah
@paulaOyeah 2 жыл бұрын
I called CVS last night to reorder my continuous blood glucose monitor. (Type 1 Diabetic) I do not search Diabetes info… I don’t need to! This morning I got a commercial on YT for a CGM of a different brand! HOW IS THAT NOT A HIPPA VIOLATION?!? 😡😡😡 I hate capitalism with EVERY fiber of my being.
@PARebecca
@PARebecca 2 жыл бұрын
As soon as I get my information off of one people finding websites. My info pops up on a brand new site, it's like whack a mole...I'm so glad I found this video....
@JoshuaC0rbit
@JoshuaC0rbit 2 жыл бұрын
You got a new subscriber today. I went from being part of the problem to part of the solution and I've become an advocate to my friends and family on how to secure their identities. I respect what you're doing brother keep up the good fight.
@techlore
@techlore 2 жыл бұрын
Welcome aboard!
@zwerko
@zwerko 2 жыл бұрын
My personal favorite is when companies claim they anonymize your phone number by hashing it (messenger and VoIP apps are especially guilty of that), as if there are no rainbow tables or GPUs that can 'deanonymize' it in less than a second.
@JacobJonesy
@JacobJonesy 2 жыл бұрын
They even use 1 pixel remote images to track you. It's sick.
@Someuser391
@Someuser391 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this awesome response video, and in general all the hard work by Techlore to help people improve their privacy and security game =D
@lisaboban
@lisaboban 2 жыл бұрын
You know how to identify someone who knows what they are talking about? They make it easy for ANYONE to understand. You are VERY good at these explanations. New subscriber!
@edene.4870
@edene.4870 2 жыл бұрын
You shouldn't be surprised John Oliver didn't go into details about how to protect privacy beyond the little bit on his show, nor fault him for it. For most people, that's already more than they can do without help. John needed to get his point across and make people sit up and take at least the bare minimum steps towards privacy protection: non-Chrome browsers and tools like ghostery. That's already a huge deal for a lot of people who aren't willing to go out of their way and change their habits. My mom is a perfect example: she'll nod along when watching show episodes like this, but then refuse to use the non-Chrome browser I put on her phone because she's not used to it, and she also can't be bothered to remember to use tools like a VPN because "they slows down the internet connection". As long as getting your privacy back is "too difficult, too complicated" to bother with, there's not a lot that can be done to get the average person on board.
@mreclecticguy
@mreclecticguy 2 жыл бұрын
Nice job of expanding on John’s take on privacy (or lack of) on the web.
@spectrumspectre
@spectrumspectre 2 жыл бұрын
Surprisingly enough, they taught us about this in elementary school. Internet safety was starting to become more prevalent, and our teacher pulled out the projector, asked if someone would be willing to volunteer, and he typed the student's name in. We were nine years old, and he showed us that the student's phone number, IP, and home address info could be bought on a website for ten dollars. Thinking back on it now, it makes me sick.
@YourLocalZombie
@YourLocalZombie 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for advocating to people about their privacy! I'm rarely one of the "there oughta be a law" types but I feel like this industry needs to be regulated or eliminated.
@JESUSCHRISTISMYLORDANDSAVIOUR
@JESUSCHRISTISMYLORDANDSAVIOUR 9 ай бұрын
Eliminated. We the people should not be products.
@GarethBruce
@GarethBruce 2 жыл бұрын
Ironically, the original video isn't allowed through the KZbin app in UK. I had to copy the link into the TOR browser to watch it lol.
@fabricio4794
@fabricio4794 2 жыл бұрын
That"in.....us"site you know..we cant talk about this here
@lyfandeth
@lyfandeth 2 жыл бұрын
Not surprising at all. The John Oliver show, like every show, is licensed geographically. They probably are not licensed to the BBC or in the UK. The brits may just feel the show would have no audience there.
@scoutbane1651
@scoutbane1651 2 жыл бұрын
@@lyfandeth Right, that's why I can see it in my tiny-ass country of Slovenia (2 mil people big), that totally has a bigger market than the UK, a country two dozen times its size and where John Oliver comes from. You serious?
@lyfandeth
@lyfandeth 2 жыл бұрын
@@scoutbane1651 Yes. The marketing folks in the UK may have access to way more domestic production than you do. And, just as there is "British humour" that would not be appreciated in the US, they may simply think they have more profitable choices. Or, the show may violate codes foir language use, defamation, or other issues that vary in each venue.
@GarethBruce
@GarethBruce 2 жыл бұрын
It's not like we can't watch these in the UK on Sky or Now TV (also Sky). The critical race theory episode from a month or so ago is now available (previously geo-locked). It seems there is a deliberate delay in making these available in the UK which is probably contractual. I just find it funny that KZbin will tease my feed with geo-locked content I can't watch when so much content is sponsored by VPNs whose main sales point is circumventing geo-locking. The fact that I just c&p'd the link into TOR and it worked straight away is the cherry on that cake.
@jeffmartinez262
@jeffmartinez262 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome video! I caught the John Oliver bit when it aired, but I appreciate the breakdown here. You got yourself a new subscriber. So far, I have been apathetic about this stuff, even though I can clearly see the danger. I look forward to becoming more proactive about this important issue.
@Someuser391
@Someuser391 2 жыл бұрын
Shared both Last Week Tonight with John Oliver's video, and your response to the people in my social network. Although I have shared more stuff from ya'll and others... but it is a hard battle to fight to get people to actually take privacy seriously. Let's hope LWTWJO will get more people to take it seriously, anywhere on the planet... the EU might have better privacy protection than say the US, but there too there is still plenty to be done.
@monirogue1570
@monirogue1570 2 жыл бұрын
The hardest part of going off grid is if you're still planning on being an active member in society and you aren't equipped with the know-how and resources to basically be your own boss. Most if virtually all jobs don't just expect you to be plugged in through the hiring process, many require you to now use social media and particular software and browsers both at your job and sometimes request you use your pages to advertise and things as well. So even if you disconnect personally and still manage to get hired at a decent job...you still end up being subjected to invasion of privacy without your consent or ability to avoid it, while having your job, other companies, the government...monitoring you in everything you do at work. I agree with John Oliver completely. I don't think switching your money to an off grid bank is a smart move...it actually could be potentially disastrous if shut down, outlawed, or fallen into the wrong hands... it's far better to push for regulations that defend our rights and privacy using these outlets day to day as we all do.
@justadad6677
@justadad6677 2 жыл бұрын
I love when experts in their field, analyze what John Oliver and his team at Last Week Tonight do. It always give them credence, it should silence the haters, that are so stuck in their ways, they can't seem to be able to learn or want to learn. But as you clearly explain, we all should trust the experts more, let them fight our battles, because of mere mortals can't figure this vast field of privacy online out ourself, not unless we want to become an expert as well...
@RashidMBey
@RashidMBey 2 жыл бұрын
I absolutely agree with this. Unfortunately, there is a wave of anti-intellectualism that seeks to pedestal the layperson's opinion at the same height as the relevant expert's, and that's almost always to the detriment of most folks involved.
@babybirdhome
@babybirdhome 2 жыл бұрын
And there are aslo a metric crapton of fake experts out there on literally every subject that matters to anyone. Even those are hard to identify without becoming an expert yourself. It’s a brutal world today.
@Elvalley
@Elvalley 2 жыл бұрын
@@starshine9662 acceptable rebuttal, at least in principle. I'd say if I wanted to be that misanthropic I'd answer your last question with "Not really, unless their interests align with mine", which is why at least in the case of the info given in this video (and the video it references, to an extent) it's easier to figure out why the information given by this supposed expert is probably the honest one.
@justadad6677
@justadad6677 2 жыл бұрын
@@starshine9662 I think we live in a much safer, healthier, better world today, than our ancestors did just a few hundred years ago. I know there are selfish people, common sense and facts back that up plenty, but I also know according to psychologist, only about 1% of the population is a sociopath, and even that doesn't mean, they are necessarily evil or even a bad person. Just more likely, especially in a society like America, that reward people that don't care about people. But knowing all that, I have hope for humanity, and I will continue to fight for a better tomorrow for everyone. because those that might not deserve it today, might never have become who they are, if the world had been better when they were born. We fight evil, when we start fighting poverty.
@justadad6677
@justadad6677 2 жыл бұрын
@@Elvalley Wow, I must be high, or that was one hell of elaborate way of saying: Listen to the experts.
@patmullarkey7659
@patmullarkey7659 2 жыл бұрын
One of my favorite fiction books on this: Feed by M.T. Anderson. "The novel focuses on issues such as corporate power, consumerism, information technology, data mining, and environmental decay, with a sometimes sardonic, sometimes somber tone."
@Jerakk30
@Jerakk30 2 жыл бұрын
Never once mentioned online about a sandwich shop in the area that i went to one day.. never saw ads for it, then one day i mentioned it to a friend of mine in FB messenger.. ever since then i'm ALWAYS seeing ads for that specific shop EVERY SINGLE DAY. Never visited their website, I never googled it, nothing. But yeah they absolutely monitor your chat. Oh.. and I've never gone there again since. The only thing the target ads did was make them lose a customer.
@techlore
@techlore 2 жыл бұрын
Facebook is notorious for keeping an eye on you. Especially through their messenger, hope the sandwiches were sub par. - S
@Jerakk30
@Jerakk30 2 жыл бұрын
@@techlore they were ok... which was why i never mentioned them until that ONE TIME lol
@rideshareafterdark5827
@rideshareafterdark5827 2 жыл бұрын
According to my Brave browser, it has blocked 1.3 MILLION trackers and adds in about 2 years.
@skayabluuya2080
@skayabluuya2080 2 жыл бұрын
WoW, I’m enlightened! Thanks for explaining All of this!
@scottcarr8738
@scottcarr8738 2 жыл бұрын
Thank You, glad to be back.
@milkgrapes6420
@milkgrapes6420 2 жыл бұрын
Techlore and John Oliver. Among two of favourite niches coming together is a dream come true.
@GeorgyKong
@GeorgyKong 2 жыл бұрын
John Oliver's segment on data browsers was fantastic. I believe that the Monero quip was a joke or that John and his staff don't understand the technical aspects of crypto currencies. A few years ago he did an interview with Edward Snowden and he asked very interesting questions to Ed that no one at the time was asking. Since John is a comedian, he asked Snowden to describe all the programs he revealed that intelligence agencies were using through a nude picture. The general population don't understand the technical side of how their privacy is being stolen, sold, and distributed on a daily basis, myself included. Anecdotes are a great way to get the message across to everyone, which will make people gravitate more to the privacy world or advocate strongly for it.
@davidbodor1762
@davidbodor1762 2 жыл бұрын
I think their stand on crypto is very skeptical because there's a lot of kinks and issues that are not ironed out (and they may or may not ever be). In this instance their issue was that Monero advertised itself pretty much as something you should use if you are engaged in criminal conduct. Which is not the greatest thing to advertise.
@icp7201
@icp7201 2 жыл бұрын
And when it comes to Crypto, it isn't really private as well. If you ever link any personal wallets to your name or person, all your privacy is instantly gone. Every transaction you ever made will be instantly exposed in the block chain. I feel even banks are safer with information than crypto, since it at least requires some sort of warrant and subpoenas in order for them to be accessed, and the chances of them leaking to the public are much smaller. And, if cryptos ever reach the point of being a true substitute to fiat currency, you will have to constantly share your wallet id in order to perform your everyday transactions, forever removing their anonymity with anyone you ever transacted with
@matthewarnold4557
@matthewarnold4557 2 жыл бұрын
It didn't help that manero's commercial pretty much exclusively aims for criminal activity.
@ajiththomas2465
@ajiththomas2465 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly, anyone who understands the technical aspects of crypto currencies would know that crypto is full of crap. There's some applications for blockchain technology but crypto currency is inefficient and untenable for privacy. Folding Ideas' "Line Goes Up: The Problem With NFTs" breaks down both NFTs and crypto currencies and the inherent intractable problems with them.
@CanelaAguila
@CanelaAguila 2 жыл бұрын
@@ajiththomas2465 Even with Blockchain I haven't found a single application that warrants that tech. I saw someone build a decentralized chat app which is kinda cool I guess, but was still mostly emulating it and people have done it before anyways with torrents and the like
@Jennn
@Jennn 2 жыл бұрын
Thank You For Sharing This, Sir. I haven't watched mainstream television in 10, maybe even 15 years at this point. From that perspective, I'm truly surprised to hear anyone on TV talking about these things. John Oliver. I may look into him~! What a lovely talk!
@rais1953
@rais1953 2 жыл бұрын
John Oliver likes exposing scams.
@_MrTV
@_MrTV 2 жыл бұрын
And yeah there's tons more to do but I think the goal was more about getting lawmakers to get more into it
@ShyamalKapadia
@ShyamalKapadia 2 жыл бұрын
2:49 i think those people with the basic 'why should i care argument' should see not just the targeted ads but see how the price they are charged for a product or service can depend on what data has been gleaned about you before you're offered the product. amazon is a good place to start...different people can pay very different prices for the same product. this will make them care more.
@allanbeaulieu164
@allanbeaulieu164 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the clear explanation. Excellent delivery, very understandable.
@chrissanto
@chrissanto 2 жыл бұрын
Well fuck, now the government knows I am concerned about privacy. Thanks Techlore!
@Jimvanhise
@Jimvanhise 2 жыл бұрын
What John Oliver doesn't mention is that there is something called AD BLOCK and AD BLOCKER which literally blocks all of these things. I have not seen ads on my computer in years because of this. It even works on KZbin which I'm sure drives KZbin crazy.
@YTSharkspeare
@YTSharkspeare 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your professional commentary. Those people whose eyes would glaze over talking about internet privacy, but this was an eye-opener. Thank you.
@banjoist123
@banjoist123 2 жыл бұрын
I'm down with my phone listening and google searches sending suggestions, but I swear to God, last week I had a larger than usual number of guitars and banjos in my shop, and I thought about wall hangers. I did NOT vocalize this thought. Next day, in the Facebook ad feed, there they are. Have I been chipped!?
@JESUSCHRISTISMYLORDANDSAVIOUR
@JESUSCHRISTISMYLORDANDSAVIOUR 9 ай бұрын
I have experienced the same exact thing!! Multiple times!! Toilet paper was one. Cat food was two.
@stephstarsshine
@stephstarsshine 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome video. Randomly showed up in recommendations. Excited to see other videos from you! 😊
@SteadyRiot
@SteadyRiot 2 жыл бұрын
I found this through the recommended videos. Was half thinking it was going to be clickbaity but saw your EFF hat and decided I'd stick around and find out. You made some really good points, some of which are unfortunately even more relevant now than when you made this (like with the period tracker apps now that Roe V Wade is up in the air)
@kianchristoffern
@kianchristoffern 2 жыл бұрын
People need privacy. Companies need constant surviellance. Government members need constant surveillance.
@DrPsychlops
@DrPsychlops 2 жыл бұрын
Subscribed! Read "Permanent Record" by Edward Snowden and then watched Jon Oliver's video, I'm glad KZbin recommended this video and I recognize the irony of that in this context. Lol
@donindiana8504
@donindiana8504 2 жыл бұрын
Yup. KZbin recommended this video to me too. That's why I'm here 😅
@robertneselic6805
@robertneselic6805 2 жыл бұрын
John always delivers on stories that need an ear. Proper breakdown. 🤙
@Spartan1853
@Spartan1853 2 жыл бұрын
Not always, he completely botched the CRT subject.
@rejvaik00
@rejvaik00 2 жыл бұрын
I don't really watch much John Oliver anymore I don't like him as much as I used to back in 2014 but I do appreciate yourself taking what he said in his segment and trying to expand upon it to make it more popular and more digestible to be understood
@Pablo360able
@Pablo360able 2 жыл бұрын
Say what you will about John Oliver, he’s not afraid to take direct action. I like that he ends all of these videos with “what can we do”, and I especially like that, when he can, he takes some big swings in those segments.
@rockpickable
@rockpickable 2 жыл бұрын
In germany there are no readily available tools to search for people. so i used a US one to search for someone i know. during the search i was asked specific yes-or-no questions which implied they already knew a lot about that person. before i could see the report, i was asked to enter my name and email... and below there was a disclaimer that my privacy is important to them. great sense of humor :-D
@AnnoyingMoose
@AnnoyingMoose 2 жыл бұрын
"It's disturbing how easily a member of the press can purchase information from the men in your precinct." - John Doe, Se7en
@starylize
@starylize 2 жыл бұрын
i really love your channel. last month i got my friend to use signal with me (she kindly used it bc i asked her) and imm loving it. slowly, i want to get more people i know on it, and this summer i’m gonna stop using chrome. 💀 your channel, along with the hated one have been eye-opening for me and i can’t thank you enough! you’re doing important work, especially in the direction the world is going right now.
@isbestlizard
@isbestlizard 2 жыл бұрын
I wish browser makers would do more to prevent fingerprinting. I run ublock origin, DuckDuckGo PE, Privacy Badger and CanvasBlocker and *still* have a unique fingerprint :/
@s4ms3piol30
@s4ms3piol30 2 жыл бұрын
uMatrix. Best thing to do is not to use your own rig.
@jcools310
@jcools310 2 жыл бұрын
Does anyone have any videos for how someone can semi mass or opti opt out of everything, what to email the companies, etc?
@michellesutton202
@michellesutton202 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for elaborating for clearly on the points the John Oliver brought up in this episode.
@jayceewedmak9524
@jayceewedmak9524 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much!
@dragoniv
@dragoniv 2 жыл бұрын
I work in the marketing industry, and have seen the definition of de-identified data has changed over the years. Data like that used to be summarzied data, typically at zip level. Today, it's sold at individual levels, largely due to an utter lack of government regulation. I've also worked in credit, and as regulated as that is, it still needs work to bring its privacy regulations into the modern era.
@caseyleenb
@caseyleenb 2 жыл бұрын
hey just a video editing tip, when you have things placed directly in the corner like you do in this video, even if the clip is fully in view, you should leave a bit of a margin between the edge of the screen and the edges of the video. it might make the viewer think that the video is slightly cut off, especially due to how john oliver’s set is framed. you even do this at 1:58, so not sure why you didn’t do that with JO’s video.
@cozmothemagician7243
@cozmothemagician7243 2 жыл бұрын
And now that I watched your full video, THANK YOU.
@vickisawyer7405
@vickisawyer7405 2 жыл бұрын
Law & Order did an episode about this around 20 years ago called "Access Nation".
@OldChannelNoSee
@OldChannelNoSee 2 жыл бұрын
Can I ask, which phones are currently the best for security? I'm going to be buying a new phone and I was thinking about the Galaxy 22 Ultra, the one with the pen. It would either be that or a Iphone 13. Which might be best? Please? If you would help. Thank you.
@jacktalcott
@jacktalcott 2 жыл бұрын
Great discussion, and thank you! As long as we citizens allow corporations and governments to keep "legal" Secrets, data will continue to be profitable, and privacy will remain a luxury. We need a world without Secrets and Lies
@RP-of5qf
@RP-of5qf 2 жыл бұрын
newpipe isn't on the playstore, apk has to be downloaded from somewhere else then ?
@ashtreylil1
@ashtreylil1 2 жыл бұрын
I thought of this channel when I saw the John Oliver segment. Cool to see you make a video.
@laurendoe168
@laurendoe168 2 жыл бұрын
Privacy hasn't existed since about the 70's. Does anyone remember those "customer loyalty cards" of the 80s? Do you really think the only data they collected was the total cost of your purchases? Once the ability to store massive amounts of data (such as credit card purchases) became popular it also became possible to aggregate it. Massive amounts of aggregated data is a product. This began in the 90s. The internet did nothing to decrease the amount of data collected - it just made it far less expensive to do so.
@charleskann886
@charleskann886 2 жыл бұрын
This may sound like a stupid question, but could an app be developed that just pinged at random web sites with random data to screw up the algorithms used by the trackers?
@leehayes4019
@leehayes4019 2 жыл бұрын
Uh 10th? The book for surveillance capitalism looks interesting, thanks for the recommendation!
@esco_0370
@esco_0370 Жыл бұрын
- My KZbin search history is always in an order that I had not last left it. I saved a game to my KZbin channel. When I checked later, my KZbin history have been researched and I can see that other saved videos had been viewed… I’m like, how and who?!!
@TheRedneckGamer1979
@TheRedneckGamer1979 2 жыл бұрын
As someone who runs a lot of tabletop games the targeted adds I get for looking up information is fucking wild.
@THESocialJusticeWarrior
@THESocialJusticeWarrior 2 жыл бұрын
what's a good reverse lookup site?
@vermithrax_omega
@vermithrax_omega 2 жыл бұрын
Does anyone have any example of these people searching websites?
@autumnbeds
@autumnbeds 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for making this, just watched Oliver's video a couple days ago. A few months ago I curiously looked myself up and was shocked, but not surprised at the fact that theyre over 100 websites with my info, along with relatives and employers readily available to anyone with an internet connection. I'd like to hear your opinion on companies like optery. Thanks!
@chrisP_wheats_and_raisins
@chrisP_wheats_and_raisins 2 жыл бұрын
How you have a channel amazes me. Well done
@ronnymb67
@ronnymb67 2 жыл бұрын
Finch from Person of Interest: "What easier way to get information than to have people volunteer it."
@Master1Morrison
@Master1Morrison 2 жыл бұрын
Glad I clicked on your video I love the way you dissected the video and informative
@JacobP81
@JacobP81 2 жыл бұрын
I've gone on that site. It's really cool. Excellent job!
@enriquehirshfeltikov2395
@enriquehirshfeltikov2395 2 жыл бұрын
Anecdotally... I was at work a few months ago and for some weird reason the old Annie song "animal crackers" bored a brain worm into my skull and I started absently singing it while working... With my phone in my pocket, "screen off"... For the next month google was constantly interspersed with adds for purchasing animal crackers ...
@CoasterMan13Official
@CoasterMan13Official 2 жыл бұрын
I looked myself up on one of those reverse people lookup websites, and I did not find myself on there, which means I am virtually untraceable.
@Aquafeenaa
@Aquafeenaa 2 жыл бұрын
Can you hide your data if on a gaming system?
@cyryl3827
@cyryl3827 2 жыл бұрын
I once tried to check who called me, suspecting it was a friend, but wanting to make sure before calling back. It just brought me straight to her FB page, even though she didn't have her number listed on FB. (years ago, so things might have changed)
@iloveramennoodle01
@iloveramennoodle01 2 жыл бұрын
That John Oliver take opened my eyes. I'm not private yet but I'm definitely more aware
@lorimauk3353
@lorimauk3353 2 жыл бұрын
Could you give a couple suggestions of websites to use to look ourselves up to see what can be found, please?
@scottwatschke4192
@scottwatschke4192 2 жыл бұрын
I read Google has an average of 250 data points on all Americans.
@chrisw1462
@chrisw1462 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Thank you!!
@661Justice
@661Justice 2 жыл бұрын
I disagree with at least 2% of what you say. Great video. I subscribed.
@techlore
@techlore 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the subscription! What did you disagree with? - S
@whatifschrodingersboxwasacofin
@whatifschrodingersboxwasacofin 2 жыл бұрын
@@techlore I think it was a joke following on the heels of your line near the end where you said you agreed with the vast majority of John Oliver’s piece (paraphrasing here), not specifics. 🙂 I loved your video. Great job!
@Allegheny500
@Allegheny500 2 жыл бұрын
Bad enough that the data brokers are tracking us, but when they make a mistake it proliferates and cannot be undone. Apparently they think I own several houses and share my vehicle with a bunch of people. Thankfully I found an insurance agent that listened and physically checked or I'd be paying 3 times my current auto insurance due to the bad driving of other people that lived in the building my apt was in. I have yet to figure out how to stop the phone calls for people I don't know. I feel especially bad for the welsh guy who's name everyone butchers as I seem to be getting all his calls. He's missed several job offers, and now debt collectors are calling for him.
@abandonedmuse
@abandonedmuse 2 жыл бұрын
Well in the Monero thing, the commercial itself spoke about circumventing law and government. I think that is where he took it another way. Had they not mentioned this point, I think it would have been fine, but he is right, they are moving towards a pretty specific conclusion and it seems pretty illegal.
@agustingomez1575
@agustingomez1575 2 жыл бұрын
It's awesome that someone with a great reach talked about privacy, and I'm glad he outlined the most important concerns. It's important that you corrected him on the cookies stuff, not only for the sake of being up to date, but also because when one takes his first steps towards protecting his privacy, one tends to become overconfident. Happened to me. So it's good to emphasize that it's a little more complex. On his opinion on Monero, sadly it probably reflects what most people think. People often adopt awful ideas that go against freedom and it's hard to fight that. I believe that while people know that surveillance on private lives is wrong, most people wont accept that some of their own beliefs are what enable said surveillance. Don't want to alienate people with politics, but that's also how I believe that some of the authoritarian governments in South America came to be. Anyway, keep up the great work, cheers! Edit: fixed a typo and consistency in a sentence.
@cmorris9494
@cmorris9494 2 жыл бұрын
I work retail. The company ap tells me where something is in the store I work at easily. I get ads all of the time for stuff the store sells. I also looked at a online seafood store. I got a bunch of ads for it.
@TheFaroe
@TheFaroe 2 жыл бұрын
I have used people searching websites like that to return lost property, but I definitely see how it could be a problem.
@WolvenMother
@WolvenMother 2 жыл бұрын
I had someone use one of the some kind of tracker to use the fact that I had been hospitalized for mental health issues (info from the tracker) against me which Is something they could have just asked me about instead (I'm open about my struggle with mental illness in a general discussion) I was angry that they could find that info to just attack me.
@alexfisken1556
@alexfisken1556 2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting and 'thank you' for the information.
@liamneely8893
@liamneely8893 2 жыл бұрын
We don't have enough data pollution plugins. When it becomes clear that some unknown percentage of what is sold is untrue, things will change.
@hugojmaia
@hugojmaia 2 жыл бұрын
So the thing about privacy is that it has a direct conflict with transparency. Usually you want private lives to have privacy and business to be transparent. That Monero ad , "A business hiding what their supplier is", that part in particular, you go to buy anything, "So where did this come from?", "No clue, we're not told.", that'll raise a lot of red flags. It's a double edged sword, since it's a tool with no restrictions on who can use it. It benefits both good actors and bad actors and honestly should remain as free as it is. Also, true financial privacy requires one to go cash only.
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