Techno rumble secrets nobody is talking about

[@OscarUnderdog]

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[@justasgriskevicius3492]

Probably my favorite channel for producing guides. You add so much personality and spontaneity in your videos, not only it inspires us to makes music, it reminds us what music is about, which is having fun

[@OscarUnderdog]

Ahhh yesssss 😇🙏🏻

[@MrXav360]

I feel like I was listening to a friend who just had made progress in his scientific research and was excited about it! Very grateful to have a better understanding of rumbles now! Thanks for the video!

[@OscarUnderdog]

Hahaha thats how i felt delivering it too 😁

[@OmarP8]

When Oscar starts a video introducing philosophical concepts, you know it's going to be worth it to get to the end; not because of the techniques you can learn -which of course you do too-, but because he gives you new and very useful points of view: he is a master at making you turn that prism that we often don't think of turning.❤

[@OscarUnderdog]

Whoah love this comment 😁🫶🏻

[@paultorbert6929]

YES💛 I’m 68, and I’ve heard so many artists and songs I like and wish I could emulate those timbres….. It’s just difficult to retain it all in memory and try to conjure it up later when inspiration strikes. OSCAR, this channel and your teaching fixes my inability to “bring back” those memories and Timbres …! THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU !!!!!!! I hope your 2024 is Blessed !!!!!!!!!!!!

[@twatmunro]

67. We're the Techno OAP's.

[@minikorg2594]

Just made a rumble like this and it sounds sick. The kick cuts thru like butter. No more muddy in the low lows. Thnx a lot for this m8.

[@thawkil]

This makes a ton of sense. I’ve always achieved this effect(really inspired by Shed/Head High kicks) by pitching down the kick portion of breaks where there’s lots of low end frequencies. By pitching down the sample, it’s stretching and smearing the frequencies of that transient. Add some filtering, compression and layer something clicky on top and you’ve got yourself a beautiful kick

[@NoerdMusic]

Your enthusiasm, your personality, your spontaneity and your deep knowledge are a fantastic mix for this kind of video. I really enjoy your content, thank you.

[@GabrielPerboni]

All your ideas makes sense to me and they don’t sound crazy at all… In fact, the way you explain music resonates deeply with the way I understand and practice my own art. and I will say this: I don’t listen to electronic music that much, but I take great advantage of all your teachings especially your philosophy about art and how it’s better to understand the rules and then use that knowledge to freely express yourself through intuition… So, yeah, thank you very much

[@OscarUnderdog]

Appreciated! 🙌

[@AshleyTOUCRU]

I don't even play electronic music but I really like the way you explain it. And I like to hear the sounds you share. Thanx for your good mood! ❤

[@xxxSpite1xxx]

Cool! :D

[@sinefabula]

That speaker thing is a major discourage for me. Like, I mean, really, I tapped on the video to learn something more about techno rumbles and to get some inspiration - and I really did! - and then the next thing I learn is that all of that knowledge I can just throw out of the window because my headphones however good won’t allow me to hear anything. I don’t know, it’s a long time I last felt this hopeless about making music. I could just ignore it if it was some random KZbinr but I really believe Oscar; his advice is always so useful, clever and clear and he is definitely very knowledgeable about music production, and he’s been a great inspiration for me. I’m sorry for this whining, I just really don’t want to open a DAW anymore at this point.

[@NullFX]

Just get a cheap sub holy fuck

[@aricunono6272]

Everytime I come here I learn so much.

[@JockeSkog]

As a human, it's impossible to think of all things at the same time. That's what makes sound design so awesome! We learn new shit everyday! 😄

[@TophtheSmith]

Awesome video as always! Something I've noticed in my music, I actually tend to avoid the click entirely by completely low passing the kick. Mostly because my preference for the pulse has always been more of a symphony bass drum vibe, where you feel the pulse more than you hear it. So I'll usually use a combination of a reverb and noise generator, sidechained to the dry signal. Your video perfectly explains why the noise generator is really useful, I was kind of trying to add a bit more nonspecific volume to it, but this makes more sense as to why it works!

[@djlokho]

Oscar, you've helped me understand why my techno rumbles felt lacking. I was focusing more on the body when the transient plays a huge role. Love the mid-range boost trick with Saturn. Thank you for explaining it so well!

[@LoochMindReader]

I don’t even produce but I watch your videos and learn so much!

[@tomweissink9204]

Can you please make a video on hard techno kicks. That would be so great.

[@peterelfman]

Oscar! First, Happy New Year. Second, I NEEDED THIS VIDEO!!! I started a techno track a while ago, faithfully adhearing to the techniques described in your last techno video. The rumble sadly sounded like a thumpy dumpster fire, and I couldn't figure out how to fix it. THIS video gave me a few vectors for troubleshooting that I hadn't been aware of before. Thank goodness you were inspired to make this video, and thanks for taking the time to put it together!

[@WomboBraker]

was not obvious at all to me. I tried to research and recreate this but never got it right, then i moved on from techno but this sparked me to try again. Thank you

[@laopiniondeunboomer2307]

We love you, Oscar. Take care of yourself.

[@marcus268]

Techno is primordial music, we always have to come back to the basics - so its good that you come back and refine your craft. I agree that headphones are most decieving for bass heavy music. Thank you !

Just throwing in a hypothesis of why the rumble is so attractive - it reminds us of the sound from our mother's heartbeat when we were still in the womb.

[@c.augustin]

Always learning something - again! Now I have an idea what I'm hearing, and what this "rumble" is. Impressive what compression does there.

[@orbitalsecurity1804]

i dont need award winning tracks when clubbing at night dude, solid work!

[@scottadams7820]

Always a good day when Oscar talks rumble!

[@frano5957]

Top 3 of best Techno videos in KZbin, great job, and great Oscar ! :)

[@ironqueen_osrs]

wow this is so informative. I don't think I will ever make a techno rumble yet I learned so much for the music im making. Every producer should watch this no matter what genre

[@b00ts4ndc4ts]

Thanks for pointing me in the direction of your syncopation upload the other day. It was just what I needed ❤

[@jizzmaster2000]

here's a like and a comment I really enjoy you showing your techniques love the rumble

[@larsegholmfischmann6594]

Excellent follow up on the Rumble Mastery video 🙂

[@xSaintxSmithx]

I don't even make techno or dance music but I love these tutorials nonetheless. I'm sure I'll find a way to apply it to my music

[@Artes.Antorcha]

Oscar!"!!!! After these 4 years that I follow you, video after video I am sure that your channel is a treasure!! number one my friend! love from buenos aires ♥

[@OscarUnderdog]

Damn i only started in 2020 so you’re oldschool hehe 💙👍

[@Artes.Antorcha]

jajaja bro I mean it when I say you’re a great teacher, you accompanied me from my beginnings, it’s crazy how your videos and my classes went in parallel. saw all the growth of the channel deswde the first videos, you were always the clearest and theacher . now i change the name because i already have some songs on spotify , so I already gave my artist name to this chanel, before i was martin impaglione simply. once I sent you an email saying that for my country, I could not pay the course in dollars and you gave it to me, you're pure love my friend. I’ll follow you till I die@@OscarUnderdog jaja im your soldier! jajajaja ♥

[@Death_Rave]

I cant wait to use this on my pocket operator 😂

[@smguy7]

Oddly, this came up on my KZbin suggestions after I was talking about a Techno piece I was working on yesterday called "Cyberia Rumble", which I started working a year ago. This is what I posted yesterday on Facebook: "I've working on my own music today. I started composing a piece called Cyberia Rumble a year ago - inspired by Serial Experiments Lain (animé series). I liked the beginnings of the piece but I didn't get much further. I used two kick (bass) drums - one FM digital and the other analogue synthesis. The FM drum is very busy and the analogue one very four-on-the-floor. I have extended the piece a lot, introducing modulation into both drums later in the pattern. I've also introduced a single solitary bass with nothing but a single kick drum and the cymbal. I want the piece to get subtly more peculiar as the piece goes on. This is in keeping with the Serial Experiments Lain idea that I started with. That's how I think out my music. The "Rumble" comes from the semiquaver runs in the digital bass drum." Then your video came up today.

[@DielectricFailure]

I like adding a track soloing the mids of the kick and adding echo and splashy reverb on top so it makes a cool movement.

[@xrabbz2010]

I don’t even make techno but I really enjoyed this! Can never have enough knowledge 😊

[@informant09]

Thanks a lot for your tutorials. They are really helpful and you have a great way of explaining!

[@jdre1976]

Speaking of white noise.. I've been passively listening to a lot of white noise these days now that I have a little kid. Something that I have noticed now is that eventually I start to hear a pattern in the white noise.. that I swear is there.. but I know its not. I can actually now observe my brain making patterns out of the random white noise. I do this over and over again now.. not sure why? I got nothing else to do when putting my kid to sleep.. but I find it fascinating that at the end of the day.. it all comes down to how our brains perceive and relate something to us.. The actual "noises" that do that.. aren't really as important as we think.. It's almost like, you need to give the brain a couple colors, get it in motion, and guess what.. everyone's brain will paint a slightly different but unique picture to the listener. Maybe getting the EXACT sound isn't as important as we think it is. Anyways.. this all just got me thinking.. thanks for the videos.

[@lichard2333]

You should try to listen to harsh noise wall, that's sort of extreme noise sub genre where the tracks are basically some white noise textures that doesn't evolve at all, it represent to me something like an antimusic thing, your brain must create the music himself (I'd love to try absolute silence one day for this reason too)

[@NoerdMusic]

That's a really interesting observation. We always try to find patterns, even in white noise. :) I also found out that if you listen to music that you don't know at a very low volume or over louder background noise, you're brain also tries to find patterns and invents melodies or rhythms that don't exist in that piece of music. Maybe one could even use that for inspiration.

[@OscarUnderdog]

Really enjoyed this observation. It’s perhaps true about a lot of art more generally: people project their own stories into whatever you present them with!

[@chrysruff7265]

Very nice explanation. Your videos are so valuable every time. But when it comes to the spectrum device from Ableton, if you turn off the "Auto" button it is less confusing to look at it. Keep up the good work man ;)

[@Screaming-Trees]

Best investment I ever made was my speakers and a proper DA stage. That was a hard earned lesson because, well it's not as sexy as buying that Jupiter or Juno or whatever else. If you need to work at and below 30hz you need a world class DA and a big speaker. Bigger the better. (a properly treated space is implied of course)

[@petreski04]

Bro I love the way ur explaining stuff, so simple yet so effective and crucial ! Keep the good work :) !

[@peterfuzz3887]

you do the best imitation of brown noise ever , Oscar (hello it''s Karine & Peter from `Rapides) :)

[@DanielD.mp3]

i honestly believe this is why so many producers just use filtered noise samples or filtered low kicks for their rumbles i think a lot of techniques like this get way too overcomplicated when they reach the music producer youtube “tutorial” world. almost seems like we often forget that productive creators often like to make things fast and reliably instead of relying on some complex secret sauce

[@OscarUnderdog]

Fair point!

[@DanielD.mp3]

@@OscarUnderdog love your videos oscar, keep up the great work!

[@NunyaBiz-x1c]

Yeah fair point, though I feel a quantity over quality approach is clearly evident when a good sound system (eg. Function one) is involved! Possibly the difference between Music Producers and "music producers".

[@elvisojeda5600]

Awesome tuto man, as always. Thank you!!!! I love dirty sounds

[@rodparker6530]

Oh nice, Rumballs. Made some for Christmas gifts

[@robert__]

I was just thinking about rumbles the other day, thank you for making this great content - it's going to get people, including myself, to get inspired to make music with some new tricks, and I think that's a great achievement

[@rnjsgmltjs9621]

Thanks a lot❤❤❤ I’m feel grateful to make that and to share the fundamental things whole of the techno low end mix❤❤❤❤❤❤ Oh My Days. Back in the days ago, I was try to do my best to making own rumble sound, chopped in old industrial sound and had to some kind of effecting(same as something like this)!!! ❤❤❤❤ Please don’t hiding this video 🥹🥹🥹🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

[@supafly424]

you made the perfect rumble combinator for us, thanx so much.

[@theproblembelief7549]

This is such a great video, Oscar, thank you! I work with eurorack modular and I have been struggling to make a good rumble (it's a small system). The technique you describe suits my system very well and I will try it as soon as I can!

[@4v4t4rmusic]

Punchbox sound nice! I like this track 🖖

[@Sentientfx1]

You are an excellent teacher mate. Thanks for posting.

[@AKAtAGG]

Top drawer as always. Off to steal your settings. Thanks friend.

[@MrVersusmode]

Thanks for another one great video! Dirty rumbly low ends are also great)

[@Reg-Edit]

You could also use a drum loop and filter out the high-end to create a rumble

[@pawelk256]

Thank you Oscar🙏 I must try this rumble, this sound fantastic 🥰 thanks again and happy New year for you and all on this channel 🎉🎉🎉

[@philfiebz]

Keep the rumble tutorials coming, always nice to watch. Fitting the video, I have two techno tracks this week: “[KRTM] - Purple Fucking Head” and “Dante Pippi - Pathfinder”. Would love a tutorial on the lead sound in this [KRTM] track. I think it's quite a unique and fun sound.

[@lbarnett748]

I use a chord the machine on my syntakt groove box. For notes making a diminished chord pitched way down gives a good effect. Or 2 low sub tones with pitch wobbles going on their own tangents. Yours sounds better though being on a computer gives loads more options. Im a hardware geek though love my techno toys. aha

[@dylanmassey7748]

Nice tip. I’m going to try that on the Syntakt. 😊

[@cassettedisco6954]

Gracias amigo el mejor lugar para aprender ❤ saludos desde México 🇲🇽!!!!

[@spchge]

Thank you for the videos! I watch every single one of your videos and i always get inspired or lear somethin new💪🏼

[@raptor.1]

the pew and the click video effects are just gold lmao

[@MarkWiseTechno]

3:45ish Oh my fucking God this is such a revelation. Amazing video. Thank you Oscar!

[@katze1195]

You are sooo sympathic guy. ❤

[@Hartweizengriesspudding]

bro i love your videos ❤ please watch your gain staging between plugins, tho

[@simonseyz11]

Thanks for all of these tips and suggestions my friend 🎶🎶👍🏻🤓

[@stefankatic1337]

Thank you ❤ you answered some questions that have been driving me insane lately 😅 Can we expect more videos for “harder” styles of techno, like this one, in the near future?

[@OscarUnderdog]

I’ll keep coming back to techno, while sometimes mixing in more house and pop techniques :) 🫶🏻

[@EALsounds]

Lovely You, without a doubt, love to share... Thank you

[@Jamelmarmusic]

Hi Oscar and thanks for this inspiring Video but may you give the chance to bring in another point of view on monitoring.! Since I make music for DJs and I also dj a lot, I finally "tuned" myself to use the same headphones that I also monitor in the studio and play my gigs. They are in the more upper regions of headphone quality so using headphones almost constantly, I came to much better mixing results than on speakers (probably because the rooms I were in were all sh´´´´y. I also guess that in today's world nearly everyone who consumes music listened on headphones so this became my benchmark. I have to sate, that it definitely needs some time to adjust this mixing "environment" and when it comes to a serious mixdown you need to be extra concentrated ! Just my 2cents...

[@RollrightKnights]

The NI TRK-01 plugin, layer B has a noise option, you can filter this and change the envelope and it makes a perfect rumble 👍

[@toddwmac]

Thanks Oscar...always love your drops...and your drops. Was wondering if you've ever played with Scaler EQ in your sound design? It introduces some interesting shaping and isolating tools. And while most people use it for mainly tonal sounds, I find it useful for doing very interesting things with low frequency tonal and atonal sounds. I've been using it with automation to add some movement to my rumble . Thanks for all your great content.

[@NikoBased]

I 100% agree with you about low end and not being able to mix on headphones. I can probably produce a trace record and do the entire mixdown on a pair of ATHM50's no problem. This is not true for bass music. I have a pair of HR8mk2's which are okay for what I do. I would like to get some 3 ways eventually, but they're so pricey. However, I would say it's always been more about the music than the mixdown. So it shouldn't discourage anybody. You can get way too into precision and lose focus of the bigger goal.

[@emotion_modulation-gd4gr]

very thoughtful and analytical, that speaks to me, thanks 🍻

[@nisu2741]

jesus christ, this is everything i needed to know like seriously wow

[@dilbaum]

yes.... making amazing low-end requires amazing equipment. and i think the perfection of the low-end is what makes all the difference for club techno compared to consumer market music or raves

[@dilbaum]

you're so cute when you play around with the rumble chain on the punchbox kick hahahahaha. thanks for the video!

[@gacstibi]

lots of nice explanations and explorations here

[@emilandersenaudio]

your videos were already great and just get better!

[@andrewfar2461]

Hey oscar, an in-depth video about spectral balance and the use of tonal balance control would be great!

[@rmatson]

You're the man! Super appreciate your work.

[@acdnrg]

In order to not have the full BD signal feeding into the rumble chain, you may take a look splitter plugins like for example the native Bitwig ones: Split signals by frequency or transients and feed them to different chains. I want to transfers these ideas to Eurorack and would translate that too: One module for transients and another, most likely whitenoise + filter, to feed the rumble chain. Good food for thought, many thanks, super valuable. And a perfect invitation to go for one of your classes soon (once the technical setup is done here).

[@fabgott8026]

I discovered you around 7/8 months ago, and wherever I go watching tutos or theories, you're my 'GO FOR'. you helped so much and as soon as I can afford it, I'll go through your courses. you're nice, fun , not pretentious and humble. You're ma maaaaan 😎

[@lynxissiodorensis2319]

Well explained, thanks.

[@PaulKemner]

OSCAR YOU ARE AMAZING!

[@budsticky]

This was actually a little discouraging to hear about the headphones thing. Even though I have good quality Sennheisers, knowing that I'll miss those details in my low end is kind of a bummer. With my living situation an acoustically treated room and big monitors just isn't a possibility right now.

[@radiofloyd2359]

A lot of this is highly dependent on your ears too! And one thing you can do to make things easier for yourself (aside from testing and fixing up sounds on multiple different headphones) is to get an equalizer that will make your frequency as close to the Harman flat curve as possible.

[@NullFX]

No one said you had to make the house bump. Get some decent used ones and keep them turned down.

[@Gooden_Eye]

super helpful, even though I have a different DAW...but they all have similar stuff

[@cj_573]

Oh yeah, I understand those feeling, when You custumize power rumble kick and then listening it as a sound-drug again and again and again... aaaa stop meee! BTW, thank You for Your efforts! About "Rumble" effect I find out from this channel just a couple years ago (I even didnt know how to search it) and it changed everything in my production^_^

[@Salman-Q]

6:00 I am sure my ears would describe it that way

[@jaminjones8784]

Thanks for sharing! Excellent tip. Phoscyon and Drumazon are awesome btw! I picked both up in November with their 50% off holiday sale. They're not the most authentic emulations of the 303/909 out there, but they sound great and I love D16's design approach.... Their instruments are more of a _reimagining_ of the instruments they emulate, with consideration for what the ideal interface / UX / workflow should be as a VST instead of just making an exact virtual replica of the OG hardware. I especially love their built in sequencers.

[@moolder]

Maybe you could start from white noise straight away, filter and modulate that as its own voice and create the same effect? Will try that tonight 😃

[@rockinruss2007]

a great insight, thanks for sharing

[@loganmarcellin-dibon209]

I am 3min in the video you are blowing my mind

[@nepntzerZer]

So micro samples of whatever smeared and hipassed are going to do interesting things

[@trescon5989]

Hello Oscar and thank you for all the lessons. You're such a good pedagogue. The mixing per frequency band part, can be done with ableton's multiband dynamic, or am i missing a point? Love

[@OscarUnderdog]

Absolutely! But in my example i simply solo a band as a listening tool, not per se to actively use it for compression!

[@wiggertvanameijde4584]

Heey man, i love your videos! Is their a way to create a rumble in key with the kick?

[@addictedtocraic]

I LOVE this channel mate.❤

[@JonMurray]

So awesome man. Everything you said made total sense. Thanks dude 👊🏻

[@datiudy_2433]

i love you man, thank you for all thid

[@charlesbronson2806]

Best teacher imo ❤

[@GoldenBites]

Hi - as always a great video. Have you considered using a synth as a source for the white noise instead of the click? Perhaps that gives even more control.

[@OzgunOfficial]

Nice video! Thanks for sharing 🔥

[@joskun]

I LOOOVE dirty low ends lol

[@ErikWijnands72]

Thanks! Top tutorial as usual!!