Why Are Larger SSDs Faster?

[@micah-c]

Point taken: SSD = fries. Thank you techquickie, now I'm going to snack on a hard drive while installing my new fry.

[@Kittsuera]

no, you snack on computer Chips. you have to fry your hard drive first to soften it up.

[@Ascend777]

You PC masta race are so stoopid. I could just eat my PS4 right out the box.

[@nuke2625]

Yea man I'm tired of shops giving me soft and dull fries. Now finally I'll have some Solid state fries I mean drives.

[@mcruff3]

@@nuke2625 The old floppy fries I uh mean drives are just so floppy and gross. Thank god you at least can easily hard drives. I don't love how hard they are but better than floppy.

[@garfieldandfriends1]

ah yes a large order of Phish and (com) chips

[@atomikcabbage]

As a type 1 diabetic, I thank you for helping me to pick out what my headstone will say in the event I die due to complications from my disease, "died of 'Beetus".

[@saganc.4090]

always

[@icoudntthinkofanoriginalna5024]

What if im type 1 diabetic and dont want to live that long?

[@fartonaut2291]

Dunestorm "Had type 1 diabetes since his 20's"

[@withoutpassid]

Type 1 diabetes is caused by the destruction of your insulin producing cells by your immune system and has very little thing to do with your calorie consumption.

[@woestewouter96]

""Died o' 'Beetus"

[@unvergebeneid]

Today I learned: teenagers are expensive, relatively speaking.

[@AvailableUsernameTed]

What about teenagers who are not related to me?

[@ronindebeatrice]

Pipe2DevNull Ayyyyyy

[@eclipseslayer98]

Teens are expensive from a certain point of view.

[@surelock3221]

*roughly speaking

[@getmepaid2day653]

it's more expensive to get rid of a teenager then to keep one trust me.

[@trumpeter811]

Linus was probably just really hungry when they filmed this

[@ileryon4019]

Burgers, fries, potatoes, sodas, teenagers.

[@RC-1290]

3:10 "Silicon is cheap, it's basically sand" Can't wait for the episode where Linus tech tips grows a microchip grade silicon crystal.

[@rhebucks_zh]

and scale up

[@Rationalific]

I love when more storage is also cheaper per amount of storage as well as faster! Usually, there are downsides and you have to give something up, but this seems like a win as long as you have the money to go bigger.

[@Kingofmolotov]

Wow, thank you for explaining Economies of Scale. Economicquickie

[@diskgrind3410]

Out of most of the fast as possible videos, this one was quality. Clear, concise and cutting edge information. Thanks again Linus.

[@Gipfir]

no cut for the tunnelbear ad... damn, this really makes me think about how many takes they need for one quicky video like this. But linus definitely is amazing at presenting stuff on video and acts super naturally. Good stuff LMG and mr sebastian

[@DMahalko]

The speed can be increased by making multiple low-capacity and separate flash circuits on a single large high-density chip. It just needs more pins for each separate flash area on the large chip.

[@GD-tn3ez]

“Spike” from Christmas with the Kranks, did a good job of explaining the subject.

[@berndeckenfels]

Needs to be mentioned that even for denser HDD you get more throughput (given same rpm and quality electronics)

[@NazmusLabs]

that’s what I assumed. Thanks for confirming. May Allah (S.W.T.) guide you to Islam and bestow upon you His Blessings; Ameen.

[@techno1561]

But only to a point. These days, most HDDs cap out at about a gigabit or two, even though the storage density increases enough that it might take a day or a few to write a drive from start to finish.

[@berndeckenfels]

@@techno1561 yeah or 4 for the high end dual actuator drives. At least there is some capacity in SAS3 to grow. I think there are no SAS4 HDD, yet? But of course the usefulness for HDD is shrinking by the minute.

[@erickleefeld4883]

The economics term for the infrastructure involved in setting up a factory or other business place (in your example, a fast-food joint) is called the “fixed cost.” The material inputs per unit of production (silicon for flash memory modules, potatoes for French fries, etc.) are “marginal costs.”

[@marcfusch]

1:50 He walah!

[@AkshanshShrivastava]

Marc Fuschino hahaha

[@ujiltromm7358]

Très bien!

[@mashalkhan8261]

voilla!

[@marcfusch]

Mashal Khan I know but he prononced WALAH. funny guy

[@mashalkhan8261]

i GET the joke, chill

[@abdoufma]

Not to mention larger drives are more likely to have a larger amount of free space (for a longer amount of time) which does affect the drive's health in he long run.

[@shyneguy]

simple answer to the first part: the storage modules in an ssd work like raid0. pull minimal amount of info from multiple locations

[@as7river]

Commercial SSDs today have extremely big longevity periods (estimated by the manufacturer, that more often prove to be low). I do wonder on whether the first commercial SSD of this generation has already, officially kicked the bucket.

[@Juhuuu]

So, be with me on this. Silicon is sand. My ssd is silicon. I have sand in my backyard. So why am I then buying basically very expensive sand from a store when I could get it from my backyard?

[@vnyggi621]

Juho Leiniö your cpu and gpu are even more expensive sand :D Oh did I mention that energy whise, your pc does nothing but convert electric energy into heat, its basically an expensive heater xD

[@rorychristensen9516]

Your sand is not pure sand :P

[@nicemelbs]

go ahead and slap some sand into your machine then

[@neehgurg2111]

Juho Leiniö if you can make 14nm transistors then go ahead

[@xxxdroidmonkeyxxx]

Good luck storing a movie in the sand in your backyard! Let me know how it goes lol

[@PierreAndersson85]

Great video. I bought myself an Intel 1,2Tb 2,5" S3610 Sata SSD with only 18 hours runtime and 1Tb of data written for 114 $. It's MLC type. My SSD since 2014 is my Samsung 840 Evo 500Gb i bought in 2014 new for 198$, still is very fast.

[@Erith251]

For some reason I enjoyed this TechQuickie edit more than any other one that I've seen so far (and I watch them all). The script was smooth and clear, no silly "facepalm" jokes or puns, straight to the point and easy to understand even for non-IT enthusiasts. I don't know if you guys did something different this time but please follow this path for future ones. Anyways, just my 2 cents.

[@burt591]

You are very clear at explaining stuff, Great work!

[@rmohammadwasiur]

SSDs are faster 'cos they have VTEC and 2JZ kicking in The SSD manufacturers are hiding something from us

[@neehgurg2111]

Wow. One of his first videos that actually explained something. Why do I keep watching him then? I think I'm addicted.

[@ruthmoreton6975]

What has held true for me over HDDs and SSDs is that the sweet spot of Storage vs Price has been in the £120 mark. Right now it's a 2Tb SSD

[@tacticalkyuubi8147]

The beginning resonates with me on a terrifying level

[@reverentevzheniy]

On 2nd minute when Linus spoke about higher capacity means more memory modules I thought that they run in some kind of NAND-Raid, thus, information is written/read simultaneously to/from each chip.

[@nO_d3N1AL]

That intro is getting old now. But one of the best Techquikcies in a while

[@DarthMcLeod]

How does work with M.2? There isn't much room for additional modules.

[@MetalCrazyGoat]

then that begs the question, what is the bandwidth cap of those controller modules? aka, how many is too many vnand chips

[@dannymin83]

Best tech KZbinr period, IMO

[@sience7791]

hello,i like the idea where you explained why larger ssds are faster !! simply ,when you have many Nands on the board as the larger ,it takes less to access data , such as small closet and big one ,in bigger SSD there are lot of space so the access to memory would be faster ,especially nand 3D technology

[@greatvalueaustinevans706]

this guy looks like linus from linus tech tips 🤔

[@dr.leonardhofstadter5866]

Love your videos Linus 👍👍👍

[@rogertampabay6616]

i had this happen to me. i had a 120 gb ssd nand 3d, and i got a second drive same same manufacturer and same tech but its 500 gb, it is noticeably faster.

[@npuldon]

+Techquicke It seems like SSD prices ~double with the doubling of capacity after best value model. This would conflict the fry analogy. Please explain

[@codysimmons1496]

This makes sense, however a Corsair m.2 ssd with a heatsink is over double the price when you go from 1tb to 2tb.

[@Conscript83]

How do you know how many flash modules a particular SSD has? I do not think this is in the technical description of the products... I guess you can just assume bigger is faster?

[@senselocke]

Learned why fast food can't be too cheap. Unexpected, but glad to make sense of fry prices.

[@paveljelinek772]

I would give you even more likes, thanx for explaining linus

[@TheHurricaneHunterNickTHH]

The nand flash modules in a SSD are kind of like many smaller SSDs running in RAID 0.

[@butre.]

I wish someone would make 3.5 or even 5.25 inch ssds to really take advantage of this property. Even if it cost a couple grand you could easily fit 30 terabytes worth of nand chips in a 5.25 inch form factor, and at that point your sata or even sas interface would be your limiting factor. Connect it via pcie x16 and we could be looking at some serious performance.

[@beardy736]

The burger king pricing thing is to tempt you away from the medium sized drink you want and spend more money to get "better value"

[@shanebeasley8191]

so it works sorta like an internal raid when it comes to speed?

[@MrMysticphantom]

Yo Linus... how's that watch you're wearing, thats the Casio ProTrek right?

[@gregoriysharapov1936]

When one mentions "SSD", I picture Druaga1 forcefully putting an SSD into something like a light

[@1sonyzz]

call me when 14tb ssd will cost 500-600 dollar

[@toottoot129]

1sonyzz 4TB Intel SSD costs 9K$ lol

[@1sonyzz]

14tb hard drive cost 500-600 dollar next year maybe will be 16tb or even 18tb hard drives, you wont beat good old hard drive when it comes to storing large files or even game libraries, not yet not even after 5 years

[@neehgurg2111]

1sonyzz stop blinking for no reason for fucks sake

[@AdamAmer20]

Zephir il ventilatore chiassoso trovare lo zephir di zeb sotto un video di techquickie ahah

[@1sonyzz]

stop me xD

[@jzenrick1989]

Much better. I definitely enjoyed this far more

[@jonathanhtsi]

No cool sponsors transition? Unsubscribed.

[@V1ralTik]

Bruh I just ignore the sponsors as long as he is getting paid

[@cliffords2315]

LOL

[@hussainblackdrag1983]

hey champ!! can you cover in your next episode in Techquickie difference between PPTP, L2TP, IPsec, SSL , OpenVPN and GRE VPN, and something about authentication Protocols and Security Protocols

[@SmerrillS]

So it does a similar process like raid? that actually makes a LOT of sense.

[@roflmagister5]

Uh, that's why harddisks with more platters are also rated somewhat faster than few-platter models. And - fancy that, more platters - more space.

[@syarifairlangga4608]

Two platter harddisk will very hard to recover data lost

[@satishkumarperumal]

That was an eye opener! 👍🏾

[@jjdog711]

So informative i had no idea about this, thank you!

[@jjdog711]

Subbed :)

[@matigamer329]

M.2: am I a joke to you?

[@MarkBuse]

Tunnel-bear commercials illustrate the way many of us wanted ISPs to operate all along. The large ones could provide the same protection and anonymity as integrated or add-on services, but they just don't bother. Over time, competition should help drive the trend toward more complete Internet access services.

[@kaouecheomar5282]

Does this approach apply to micro sd cards as well ?

[@amirulidzham3686]

Hey Linus, I wanna see a video topic about download accelerator. Which one to use and why some website disallow it and so on. Why browser download are slower than download accelerator? Thanks

[@Seansmit23]

Look at Linus right arm (The left arm from our perspective!) I cant watch this until he fixes his sleeve!

[@JamesHryb]

Great video! I learned a bit!!!! NICE!

[@jef8278]

Hey linus does anyone ei your team actually use Tunnel Bear? I might consider it with the ending of net neutrality in the states

[@MarkDemacio]

Is that why hard drives are faster when you format it to have smaller allocation unit sizes? (think with traditional drives you lose some space for more speed)

[@johnny_123b]

so mem modules inside ssd are like in raid0?

[@bobblueton]

That Wendy's worker is adorable! I wish they looked like that here in the US! (no chomo)

[@WarriorsPhoto]

Brilliant video. Well written and good information. Thank you.

[@hugoburton5222]

I always wondered this. I thought it was that the manufacturer limits the speed through the controller on smaller drives.

[@lavaslice]

what about two ssd of 120 gb in raid 0 vs one 240gb ssd?

[@garfieldbudd6565]

Does the same thing apply to m.2 SSDs?

[@HappyBeezerStudios]

But then classical hard drives usually have multiple platters and read heads. Bigger mechanical drives tend to be faster than small ones aswell. When putting 64 GB chips on a 128 GB SSD, you only have to buy 2 chips. When using 16 GB chips there are still the cost of 8 chip which are totally not 4 times as cheap.

[@tinkmarshino]

at 65 I need help figuring out all of this new silliness... thanks my friend...

[@johnmeldrewvinfernandez4805]

Hiya.. This is maybe late comment but I find on 2:34 was good explanation on Cost accounting.. And also be also correct Fixed cost was really expensive, due to its independent this cost was uncontrollable, than Variable cost.. But I also want to add that if the production was high the Fixed cost was also decrease (similar to our Law of Demand)..

[@johnmeldrewvinfernandez4805]

Notes po.. Fixed cost: Its costs that incurred REGARDLESS what level of production is. Variable costs: Its costs that ONLY incurred, if their production was happening.. If their no production, then you DON'T incurred a variable cost.

[@dylreesYT]

Really well explained, even if I knew this level of detail already :P

[@GoosewithTwoOs]

Economics lesson on Linus tech tips? I dig it.

[@tomtang6499]

Nice explanation about cost of manufacturing about small size SSD. I hope you can make a video explaining why a bluetooth-enabled mouse is more expensive than a regular USB wireless mouse too. My argument is that the bluetooth-enabled mouse should be cheaper as the cost of the USB dongle is eliminated. Should it be due to the law of supply and demand?

[@reoencarcelado5904]

@Tom-Tang: Bluetooth [wireless] technology is more-complicated than regular-ol’ wireless-radio-frequency technology (which is still where Bluetooth falls-under; Bluetooth works on the wireless-radio-frequency spectrum also). That is one-of-the-reasons-why Bluetooth wireless-technology is more-expensive than regular-ol’ wireless-radio-frequency technology. (By the way: Bluetooth wireless-technology was supposed (and/or intended. and/or thought-up as) to-be a replacement for USB wired-connectivity, but hasn’t fully-taken-off yet).

[@kylehazachode]

do a video on the current generation of ssd controllers

[@ArchonLicht]

This episode was so good I even watched your ads dude - just out of respect :-)

[@Omlet221]

So it’s kind of like the flash modules are in raid 0?

[@bobh5261]

Great teacher. never boring

[@thequintessentialgamer7514]

I lived very close to that Micron plant they showed. It was a huge disappointment when it opened because they didn't provide the vast amount of jobs they said they would. Now though, 25 years later other companies (Adobe mainly), have moved in next door and that whole hillside has become quite the technology hub

[@maxxtheender]

Wait, so a 3.5 inch drive packed full of 3D-NAND chips, then has a connecting cable to a M.2 slot would be insanely fast? I want Royalties!

[@ulysseslee9541]

similar with the bit-rate theory of Memory

[@aegisofhonor]

I was told when I was in the market to buy an SSD that the 960 gig model was about 20-30% faster then the 480 gig model due to having more NAND flash chips and will likely last at least 2 to 3 years longer. espcially if I keep the card below 700 gigs. It turns out after about 700 gigs of compacity, 960 gig SSDs have to move data around at about twice the rate of even having just 600 gigs of data, shortening it's lifespan by half, gets even worse if you get really close to maxing out an SSD (lets say 850 gigs).

[@benhook1013]

Please dont misguide people with this info. This possibly was due to the current tech with having to use many chips for that size, but this info will extremely fast become outdated and misinformation.

[@Mrxl767]

Linus trying to teach economies of scale with fries lmao.

[@BillySama001]

Does Linus sell Tunnel Bear t-shirts? I want one that says, "Brought to you by Tunnel Bear"

[@Largekhosro]

Hope you enjoy your fast SSD with throttled ISP connections

[@xeniq2214]

*I bought a 60gb SSD from Drevo and it is advertised as having 90mbps write speed and 450mbps read speeds, but when I test it, I get 560mbps read speeds and 170mbps write speeds, so I guess they use decent piece still*

[@Backup_Jack]

What about nvme? Is that different then says when it comes to bigger being faster?

[@superstealth385]

Linus explains ssd very good

[@alejandromendoza3483]

but for example if yo have a 120gb ssd and won't complete that, you can have the same speed than an biggest ssd with the same part complete of each module, true??

[@stupidmoron2706]

Hi Linus. I have a Nividia GeForce GTX 1050TI and a AMD Fx3600 in my rig. Do you think these are best together? Most games I only get 60-100Fps at medium settings alone. I feel like something is being choked up... Any suggestions?

[@neyel8r]

honestly didn't already know about this, thx for the info. & the tunnelbear

[@eseoldeenglish1475]

I'M BRAINWASHED BY THE TUNNEL BEAR!!!

[@XOL24OX]

E -Old English

[@LucasDaRonco]

I know this video was mainly speaking about size vs speed, but it would have been great if you also clarified that bigger drives also have more endurance.

[@Lumencraft-]

No speed test comparison???

[@tchitchouan]

0:37 great use of a trump meme !

[@MichaelW1980randoms]

Oh my... although it’s right, you are missing some crucial points here. First of, those speed benefits won’t actually be noticeable. At least for most of the people watching this video. Also, depending on the software used, video editing for instance will benefit a lot from having separate SSDs. In fact up to 3 SSD drives could be useful, well beyond the speed benefits of having a single, big SSD.

[@AlphaNerd132]

but why at the larger size, does it have fewer writes?

[@blokofwood]

So flash modules are in "Raid 0".

[@syarifairlangga4608]

Yes its actually Raid O. Thats why its very fragile.

[@89Interceptor]

i laughed way too hard at "died of 'beetus"

[@broneksarna]

I would like to know how much money Linus have to pay to be on Tunnel Bear Teachquickie chanel 😁

[@damianhernandez265]

I heard linus is a good sponsor because of his performance per dolar lol

[@VeryNuclearYT]

lmao

[@sammmm6266]

broneksarna1 do you even english bro

[@broneksarna]

nope- I'm from Europe and I know - my english is poor and I have problems with syntax - next question :D

[@DragonGuard1337]

It does make sense, you just didn't get the joke (and likely still don't). And with that being pointed out to you, you just resort to insulting the guys grammar to make yourself look less bad.

[@ciprianiulian871]

2017: "Silicon is cheap" 2022: *entry-level gpu at 250€*