Confusing Symbols on SD Cards

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@techquickie
@techquickie Жыл бұрын
It's good to be back! Thanks for watching, everyone, and for your continued support.
@MrSN99
@MrSN99 Жыл бұрын
i loove you jon
@rekire___
@rekire___ Жыл бұрын
Jon, you can't escape cryptobros
@foxfromjamaica
@foxfromjamaica Жыл бұрын
great vid, only thing you missed of importance (especially for ppl using sd cards in a phone or steamdeck) is application class. If you using an sd card in those cercumstances is worth it to go for an A2 class card over an A1
@wordsmith451
@wordsmith451 Жыл бұрын
Looks like you just went through a hard R. I assume that means recovery. 😏
@brandonw1604
@brandonw1604 Жыл бұрын
Glad you're back.
@Killertamagotchi
@Killertamagotchi Жыл бұрын
You forgot A1 and A2, which indicates the speed of random access, like what happens when you use it as memory in a smartphone for an app or, for example, in the switch
@tommoyang
@tommoyang Жыл бұрын
So did everybody else tbh
@Bukki13
@Bukki13 Жыл бұрын
stupid question: is a1 or a2 faster? i’m guessing a2 but i wanna be sure
@BEASTBOOST
@BEASTBOOST Жыл бұрын
@@Bukki13 a2 is more than double
@Bukki13
@Bukki13 Жыл бұрын
@@BEASTBOOST ok thanks
@IrocZIV
@IrocZIV Жыл бұрын
And the Steam Deck
@UnfaehigerKanal
@UnfaehigerKanal Жыл бұрын
Funfact: The write protect switch on SD cards actually isn't electrical. It's like on old audio/video cassettes where a mechanical sensor inside the card reader detects whether the write protect is at place, so if that tiny "switch" falls out, you can just put tape over the hole, and it should be writable.
@HyperVectra
@HyperVectra Жыл бұрын
Unless the pin has somehow been bent back. I like when the notch becomes loose over time.. its exciting! Every time I plug in I never know if I'll write over my data or not
@darrennew8211
@darrennew8211 Жыл бұрын
Floppy disks worked this way also. Indeed, on the actually floppy floppy disks, you'd use a piece of tape to cover the hole as the "correct" way to do it.
@Crlarl
@Crlarl Жыл бұрын
It's basically how 3½" micro floppies did write protection, with a sliding switch. -8" and 5¼" floppies as well as- VHS and compact cassette needed to be permanently altered for write protection.
@darrennew8211
@darrennew8211 Жыл бұрын
@@Crlarl No, the floppies didn't. They had a little notch in the side that if open would let you write, and if you stick a tape over them they were writable. And the disks came with little rectangles of tape designed to fit over the hole. You might be thinking of the practice of cutting a notch in the other side of the packaging so you could use both sides of the single-sided floppy. Yes, there was a break-off tab on cassette tapes to prevent writing, which you could also cover up with tape if you changed your mind.
@Crlarl
@Crlarl Жыл бұрын
@@darrennew8211 Yeah, you're right. I was mixing up which way it worked.
@stevenjlovelace
@stevenjlovelace Жыл бұрын
Fun fact: the SD logo was originally designed for an optical disc format that never took off. That's why the "D" looks like a CD or DVD.
@Shadow-RAM
@Shadow-RAM Жыл бұрын
I knew that thanks to @technologyconnections
@stevenjlovelace
@stevenjlovelace Жыл бұрын
@@Shadow-RAM Probably where I learned it too, now that you mention it.
@MrCoffis
@MrCoffis Жыл бұрын
Fun fun fact.
@eddie826
@eddie826 Жыл бұрын
SD stood for SECURE DISC I think
@missingno2401
@missingno2401 Жыл бұрын
@@eddie826 whatever it stood for, now it stands for secure digital
@Channel2S
@Channel2S Жыл бұрын
Really reminds me a lot of USB where they created an overcomplicated and cryptic series of names, abbreviations, and numbers that mean nothing to most of their customers. I've never paid any mind to these markings at all when shopping for cards, instead I just look for a spec sheet that gives actual values for transfer speeds.
@hubertnnn
@hubertnnn Жыл бұрын
Well, there is a slight difference. Those codes for SD cards worked fine at first, but no one expected the format to live so long. So when existing marking became obsolete and no longer usable, they just did a quick patch, then another and another, so now the standard is just a big patchwork. In other words SD simply outlived its own standards. With USB existing naming did not became obsolete, it would still work for a long time, but the USB consortium wanted better free and confusing advertising so they did just that. On top of that it feels that people behind USB naming just could not get into consensus with each other and just started randomly changing stuff hoping it will work.
@chriswright8074
@chriswright8074 Жыл бұрын
@@hubertnnn Im happy for sd
@Channel2S
@Channel2S Жыл бұрын
@@hubertnnn True, they're almost opposite problems. Sticking with the standard for too long, vs changing it too much.
@Keepskatin
@Keepskatin Жыл бұрын
@Channel You are a casual electronics consumer.
@FlyboyHelosim
@FlyboyHelosim Жыл бұрын
@@Keepskatin On the contrary, casual consumers don't look up spec sheets.
@noahluppe
@noahluppe Жыл бұрын
What is also important to mention, the UHS-II and UHS-III have a new row of pins for the new bus, they aren't like PCIe that keeps the same mechanical contacts, but actually changed the amount of pins. They still are backwards compatible on both ends, so if one device does not have the new pins (thus not support UHS-II) they just communicate vie UHS-I or the old SD bus.
@ddegn
@ddegn Жыл бұрын
Thanks. I didn't know this.
@cavifax
@cavifax Жыл бұрын
I was about to say this, many Sony cameras take good advantage of them.
@Valery0p5
@Valery0p5 Жыл бұрын
The level of miniaturization flash memory has reached is incredible. My uncle had old 128MB cards back at his office. When I had my first feature phone 8GB were all that you could ask for. By the time the 3DS came around 32GB were starting to feel tight. And then we went from hundred gigs cards to 1TB becoming affordable in a couple of years. My phone has a card as big as some SSDs now. What a time to be alive.
@LoneWanderer905
@LoneWanderer905 Жыл бұрын
I still have a chonky 64mb SD from my first photo camera. Wild evolution.
@t0biascze644
@t0biascze644 Жыл бұрын
128MB? Meh i have old 32MB SD card in drawer
@gaijininja
@gaijininja Жыл бұрын
My first personal computer had a tape drive with a 15min per side tape.
@HyperVectra
@HyperVectra Жыл бұрын
My first thumb drive was 16mb ... I bought so many and threw out my floppies
@BobSentell
@BobSentell Жыл бұрын
The first 2TB MicroSD I owned cracked me up. I held it next to the 1GB hard drive my dad bought to upgrade his Packard Bell x486 he bought when I was a kid.
@ZinZalo
@ZinZalo Жыл бұрын
An interesting thing about some cheaper standard SD cards is that they are actually micro SD cards in a standard SD adapter. I found this out when one of my SD cards split open and I was both relieved and surprised to find a micro SD inside!
@josuelservin
@josuelservin Жыл бұрын
That reminds me of the old 9v batteries that had 6 AAAA batteries inside, those little suckers where impossible or extremely expensive to get in my country and it was just better to extract them from those...
@paulelderson934
@paulelderson934 Жыл бұрын
It makes sense. Just print the same size microSD and get shipped a plastic shell for half of them. Makes for extremely efficient factory use.
@Mordecrox
@Mordecrox Жыл бұрын
@@josuelservin I wonder what legal rigamarole enables that. I'm yet to see such thing, all 9V batteries I've dismantled so far are either a solid brick thing or the cells are nowhere close in size or termination of AAAs and unusable if disassembled. I assume some loophole makes sticking 6 AAAs into a 9v cell more cost effective from a tax standpoint
@JustTheJames
@JustTheJames Жыл бұрын
​@@Mordecrox They didn't say AAAs, they said AAAAs, they are even thinner and I have only ever seen them used inside fancy stylus pens
@josuelservin
@josuelservin Жыл бұрын
@@JustTheJames exactly! it's 4A and they where (and still are) quite rare, and I did used them for the stylus on an ancient digitizer tablet.
@conza1989
@conza1989 Жыл бұрын
What's kinda of amazing is, if a regular viewer was just off social media for a couple of days, they'd just think this was a normal Techquickie video, and that nothing ever happened.
@Loup_Garou
@Loup_Garou Жыл бұрын
Well it was probably shot way before and scheduled to release today
@lpnp9477
@lpnp9477 Жыл бұрын
Oh, did something happen?
@snesmocha
@snesmocha Жыл бұрын
@@lpnp9477 LTT got hacked
@PokemarioThe2nd
@PokemarioThe2nd Жыл бұрын
​@@lpnp9477 Bitcoin scammers took over the LTT channel and some of its related channels, including this one, a few days ago
@ElfRulerr
@ElfRulerr Жыл бұрын
@@lpnp9477 It's him. It's the Regular Viewer™.
@jesse9992
@jesse9992 Жыл бұрын
I said an audible “What?” A few times hearing the speed for SDUC EX, so I googled the specs to see the wiki page saying it’s just under 1GB/s, not 1TB/s. I was legit freaking out when I heard it😂.
@Gerton999
@Gerton999 Жыл бұрын
Same lmao
@sassuki
@sassuki Жыл бұрын
I did not even notice. I automatically interpreted it as 1GB/s, as 1TB/s is just impossible. If you didn't write about it, I would have never known!! lol
@jamesmoses4066
@jamesmoses4066 Жыл бұрын
Why'd he say 1tb per second tho
@sassuki
@sassuki Жыл бұрын
@@jamesmoses4066 slip of the tongue, obviously ;-P
@MikoOhneHose
@MikoOhneHose Жыл бұрын
@@jamesmoses4066 low quality control nowadays
@CalcProgrammer1
@CalcProgrammer1 Жыл бұрын
How did you manage to miss A1 and A2? These are arguably THE most important specs for cards used for operating systems or gaming. If you're buying a card to use in a Raspberry Pi or other SBC, booting a Linux smartphone, or using to store your game library on your Steam Deck or Switch, the Ax (or Application) mark is important. I don't exactly know what numerical values A1 and A2 refer to but it has to do with random access performance, which is not important when sequentially dumping or reading large video files but is super important when reading a bunch of tiny files from all over the place when you're booting an OS or loading a large game.
@keekwai2
@keekwai2 Жыл бұрын
Ask the Wiki Page he skimmed all this info from.
@nathanfife2890
@nathanfife2890 Жыл бұрын
I actually think they differ in one other way, that would be endurance. If you buy a regular SD card for your camera or something there's a good chance you'll wear it out really quickly. A high endurance SD card will last much longer
@Sid_Argon
@Sid_Argon Жыл бұрын
Missed this Information in the video too. It realy makes a big impect in these use cases. When you want to watch your surveillance fotage and recognice your card died. Or you don't need to buy a new card every year.
@mrofinUtortxoF
@mrofinUtortxoF Жыл бұрын
The real answer to endurance question is always Samsung. They are the best at manufacturing memory chips.
@Sid_Argon
@Sid_Argon Жыл бұрын
@@mrofinUtortxoF no, maybe they are quite good, but normal Chips, will never live as long as the special endurance Chips from other manufakturer. With a garanted live experience of 13 years continius writing.
@mrofinUtortxoF
@mrofinUtortxoF Жыл бұрын
@@Sid_Argon endurance (and then trust the marketing people). Most SD cards sold in my country have 5 year warranty. Do they trust in their product? No, warranty is just included in the price. Does the price of SD cards drop dramatically every year for like 20 years? Yes. So a dead card will not be an issue in 5 years. Once again: endurance is marketing
@MatherfuckingKing
@MatherfuckingKing 8 ай бұрын
One of the reasons I prefer microSDs with a SD adapter in my camera is that, by taking the card in and out every day, you ware out the pins on the adapter, not on the card, so you can just switch it for a new one if you need to.
@antonschernus5946
@antonschernus5946 Жыл бұрын
Would love to see another quickie that also touches on durability on the write cycles. How it affects performance or leads to data corruption, and how to know when to toss a card. Glad the channels are back up relatively quickly.
@ticktockbam
@ticktockbam Жыл бұрын
I know for a fact that you don't want to saturate your card with data, nor any kind of storage for that matter (besides maybe the RAM which can take it pretty well) since it might lead to data corruption. So, as a rule of thumb, always leave some space free in your storage device, like a few gigabytes or even more if you have a lot of space, just to be sure.
@JimmyCerra
@JimmyCerra Жыл бұрын
Many micro-sd cards stop writing altogether when they are "done." That's when you know to destroy and toss it. Samsung sells an ultra-endurance micro-sd card that's not the fastest (but still C10 U3 V30) but lasts greater than 8x more than a typical card.
@gblargg
@gblargg Жыл бұрын
4:18 Imagine explaining to someone in the late 1990s that memory cards will eventually be in the terabyte size and use the same bus protocol as plug-in expansion cards, all the size of a thumbnail.
@flameshana9
@flameshana9 Жыл бұрын
People from 2090 be like: you used cards with less than 128 petabytes of storage? Lol, so old and outdated. I bet the write speeds were less than 30 terabytes a second too.
@marcus_w0
@marcus_w0 Жыл бұрын
I'm 40 years old - and a 1tb microSD still looks like magic forkery to me. I pirated the full version of Doom on 9 floppies! It took me days to spread it over the Schoolyard! There was incoherent supply and demand - a complete disk copy took about 6 minutes. This meant days and days of changing floppies, only to get your gang going. I started charging 8 bucks for it plus 7 bucks for the floppies - and it worked out pretty good. Doom was only 15 bucks to buy at ID if you had the shareware - but that's not the point!
@ilovefunnyamv2nd
@ilovefunnyamv2nd Жыл бұрын
one of the few times I came away more confused after a tech quickie, not Riley's fault. this really needs a table for all the information
@extremefalcon
@extremefalcon Жыл бұрын
Now that I'm thinking about it, I've always looked at the back of the box when getting an SD or micro SD card to get all of the necessary info and have been doing this for years. It's saved me a lot of time in the long run since I do a lot of photography as well as having dash cams in my car.
@paulelderson934
@paulelderson934 Жыл бұрын
I hate online retailers not listing specs properly. Often times the box has better info than the listing.
@edison700
@edison700 Жыл бұрын
Technology Connections has a good video on why the D in SD is a disc.
@MysteryDash
@MysteryDash Жыл бұрын
4:12 Small mistake there, it's 1GB/s, not 1TB/s
@b1lleman
@b1lleman Жыл бұрын
Just a factor of 1000 small mistake LOL
@chadmckean9026
@chadmckean9026 Жыл бұрын
note that support for the slide switch on a standard sd card has to be respected by the device, if the devices chooses it can write regardless of the switch
@Vojoor
@Vojoor Жыл бұрын
00:04:18 1 TB/s? I assume it’s GB/s, maybe in 15 years it’s TB/s
@Trinket_Master
@Trinket_Master Жыл бұрын
RGB SD cards would be a megaflex. Nobody would ever know until that one friend asks "what size card do you have for your switch?" Only for you to pop that port open and blind them with the rainbow assault of rgb
@ZipplyZane
@ZipplyZane Жыл бұрын
And if you do see one that's above 1TB for any remotely reasonable sounding price, it's probably fake.
@JSC_66
@JSC_66 6 ай бұрын
Indeed, they could be any size, from 2MB (C H E A P) towards that JUICY 1TB (usually Expensive as hell)
@dside_ru
@dside_ru Жыл бұрын
After some experimentation, I concluded that quite many card-reading devices are in fact forward-compatible: e. g. SDHC-tested devices *can* (usually) handle SDXC too. This was a particular joy for a friend of mine who owns a Windows tablet where microSDHC is the only means of storage expansion.
@dasy2k1
@dasy2k1 Жыл бұрын
Alas one of my recent purchases didn't work at first until I realised that it requires specifically a micro SDHC and will not recognise any SDXC card
@offaperry
@offaperry Жыл бұрын
4:15 1TB/s??? Something seems off by a magnitude of 1000x lol
@JOELwindows7
@JOELwindows7 Жыл бұрын
A1 symbol: hiding in the dark A2 symbol: killing crewmates
@jasonh4534
@jasonh4534 Жыл бұрын
After learning this… Now you can go watch the Technology Connections video explaining why the SD logs looks like a disk (cd/dvd) when SD cards have nothing to do with those types of disks.
@youcantata
@youcantata Жыл бұрын
All comes down to just 3 numbers: sequential read, sequential write and random IO per seconds. Typical values: 130 MB, 50 MB, 4,000 or so.
@TaylorPassofaro
@TaylorPassofaro Жыл бұрын
Video guy chiming in here: If you're looking for an SD card that will work with your camera, you need to check what the *max bitrate* of your camera is and match that to your SD card. For example, my A7iii shoots 4K at up to 100Mb/s which corresponds to 12MB/s (divide by 8 to go from bits to bytes) and that means I can easily get away with a v30 card since that supports up to 30MB/s. Plenty of headroom. However, if I was shooting on an a7siii, that can shoot up to 600 Mb/s in it's All-I codec, which means I need at least a card that supports 600/8=75MB/s, which would be a V90 card. For all the symbols on the SD card, it's actually not terribly complicated for video, I wish they would just make the "V" number a lot bigger since that's the important one.
@duyhungphannguyen3049
@duyhungphannguyen3049 2 ай бұрын
So even with the ZV E10 II video in 4k 60fps 10 bit color 200MB only requires a V30 SD cards? I was always wondering this. I am using A7C 4K30 8 bit 100MB recording with V30 SD cards and it works okay
@TaylorPassofaro
@TaylorPassofaro 2 ай бұрын
@@duyhungphannguyen3049 it appears so. 200Mb/s would correspond to 24MB/s which is still good for a v30 card.
@pathunder1685
@pathunder1685 Жыл бұрын
This is why I love this channel. Clear and concise and very informative.
@blendpinexus1416
@blendpinexus1416 Жыл бұрын
you did forget a1 and a2 which are pretty much required if you want to use the card in something like the steamdeck.
@dosdont
@dosdont Жыл бұрын
The difference in quality of SD card is the worst thing about them. Some are good, most are horrible, the problem is you can't tell as there's not standard quality rating.
@lawrenceking4144
@lawrenceking4144 Жыл бұрын
Okay, Riley, that was totally confusing. The gist is that larger numbers are not necessarily better, but that depends on where the number is located. The infuriating part is that companies print these codes on the SD card, but the specifications in the description do not list them or go into detail about what they mean.
@Husky_Mountain_Productions
@Husky_Mountain_Productions Жыл бұрын
There is also the fact the the uhs cards also had a different pin layout, where the old ones only have one row on contacts, the uhs cards have two rows to help with the data transfer speed.
@CalcProgrammer1
@CalcProgrammer1 Жыл бұрын
UHS does not require the second row. The second row is the PCI Express connection that was discussed in the video, separate from UHS.
@AZREDFERN
@AZREDFERN Жыл бұрын
My Canon 5DMKII runs on FAT32 Compact Flash. It's limited to a 32GB card size, and cannot format in camera larger than that. But with a CF to SD adapter, you can format to your heart's content. You just have to use a computer and disk manager EVERY time you want to wipe it. The craziest thing is SD is pretty slow when compared to the ancient CF format. You still need a U3/V30 SD card to match the camera's write speed for burst photos.
@jayspeidell
@jayspeidell Жыл бұрын
As confusing as it is, I think we should appreciate how much information is contained in a logo.
@servus6267
@servus6267 Жыл бұрын
I mean.... Yea, but you can also print a QR code on top, and each dot is the size of a dust grain on the card, and it contains even more information... and if you color the QR code, it looks even more fancy, and in the color, you can save even more information because of the Colorchannel... It is even more confusing as it is now, and absolutely nobody can read the information... but hey, i would appreciate how much information is contained in the "logo"
@ticktockbam
@ticktockbam Жыл бұрын
@@servus6267 They could just put what every symbol means in the back of the package. I don't think that would be too much to ask, right?
@jennyjohn704
@jennyjohn704 6 ай бұрын
There is very little information in each of the logos, there are just too many logos.
@QuentinStephens
@QuentinStephens Жыл бұрын
Something major you appear to have missed is the endurance. Some SD cards are marked as High Endurance and are very good for dashcams.
@ddegn
@ddegn Жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same thing. I've purchased a few High Endurance cards for dash cams myself. I'm be curious to learn how much more endurance High Endurance cards achieve.
@yienmaster04
@yienmaster04 Жыл бұрын
​@@ddegn I've been using the same High Endurance microSD in my dashcam for 6 years without issue. As long as it's a reputable brand, they seem great!
@kruemelfelix
@kruemelfelix Жыл бұрын
Some manufacturers like SanDisk even offer 30years warranty on their "Extreme Pro" series. If the card dies under normal use just write them and you will get a new one. Pretty amazing and simply shows how confident the manufacturers are now when it comes to endurance.
@ddegn
@ddegn Жыл бұрын
@@yienmaster04 Good to know. Thanks.
@em0_tion
@em0_tion Жыл бұрын
@@kruemelfelix Kingston and Corsair used to give lifetime warranty on user class devices ages ago. I would never put my trust in SanDisk - the cheapest brand on the planet. Popular doesn't mean reliable. A-DATA had faulty smartphone series cards, Kingston had defective computer SSDs... I only trust specific models now, NO brand loyalty or pride, they lost that privilege. Hope you're happy and never lose important data, but just don't blindly vouch for a brand, they will eventually make you regret it. 😁✌
@keita6754
@keita6754 Жыл бұрын
It's these kinds of things that I have to look up every time I have to buy an SD card for my DSLR and I swear each year, they include a new symbol to make things more complicated and aggravating, "what's this new symbol? how fast does that mean? Does my camera even support that speed?". As mentioned in the video, I'd appreciate if there was standardized breakdown of the R/W speeds on the package so I wouldn't have to waste an additional hour googling what the new symbols mean.
@IngramBlakelock
@IngramBlakelock Жыл бұрын
Imagine doing all of this research, learning all this information, buying an SD card from Amazon and still getting scammed.
@Keepskatin
@Keepskatin Жыл бұрын
That's a why you only buy namebrand electronics
@flameshana9
@flameshana9 Жыл бұрын
@@Keepskatin and not from 3rd party sellers. Or Amazon/eBay/AliExpress.
@Neoxon619
@Neoxon619 Жыл бұрын
It’s good to have the channel back, but I hope that new faster SD card standard is made available for the Switch 2.
@XaXa17x
@XaXa17x Жыл бұрын
I have a Switch too. I honestly hope they take years to make the new Switch
@latitzouri
@latitzouri Жыл бұрын
Hah, look at this peasant not having the 128 TB SD UHC EX V90 Micro SD card
@Maxrepfitgm
@Maxrepfitgm Жыл бұрын
​@@XaXa17x Ummm, why would you want that?
@XaXa17x
@XaXa17x Жыл бұрын
@@Maxrepfitgm cuz mine is still new
@Maxrepfitgm
@Maxrepfitgm Жыл бұрын
@@XaXa17x That's it? That's the reason??? So what if somebody buys it next year then should they wait to release it again?
@Fr4nk4000
@Fr4nk4000 Жыл бұрын
It's so nice that I can tune to this channel anytime and quickly get information that I will use and was too lazy to look up myself.
@Demasx
@Demasx Жыл бұрын
Two questions: 1) Using a MicroSD card in a SD adapter... does it degrade performance (speed) or no impact? 2) Given a number of high endurance marketing, is that something to look out for?
@MrDgwphotos
@MrDgwphotos Жыл бұрын
I believe it's just a simple pass-through device, just lining up the contacts between the SD card slot and the Micro SD card.
@paulelderson934
@paulelderson934 Жыл бұрын
For endurance claims just check the warranty. If they don't trust their own product to hold up then why should you?
@kruemelfelix
@kruemelfelix Жыл бұрын
If the manufacturer provides like 20 or 30years of warranty to their cards you can be sure that it will last quite a while. They wouldn't do this else ;) So I'd rather look out for warranty instead of the "high endurance" label.
@egon3705
@egon3705 Жыл бұрын
i don't think there's really a difference between a microsd in an adapter and a normal sd considering a lot of sds are just microsds in bigger shells
@CalcProgrammer1
@CalcProgrammer1 Жыл бұрын
Zero difference, the adapter is just a straight pass through wiring device, it does not have any electronics in it. The performance still depends on the capabilities of the SD card reader.
@goldenpiece7087
@goldenpiece7087 4 күн бұрын
5:15 yes I did, in fact this is the 3rd time I'm here :) It's so relaxing to not care about memorizing these symbols since I can always come back here and watch Riley explain.
@Aeturnalis
@Aeturnalis Жыл бұрын
2:52 to skip ad
@Moshugaani
@Moshugaani Жыл бұрын
It's often pointless to get the fastest card, because your device also has its maximum read and write speeds. For example, Steam Deck uses UHS-I so the max speed is about 100 MB/s. I guess something like the Nintendo Switch has similar speeds.
@I.____.....__...__
@I.____.....__...__ Жыл бұрын
1:00 Warning, the write-protect switch on SD cards and microsSD-adapters aren't guaranteed to do anything. They're literally just a little piece of plastic that you slide around, they have no electronics that connect to the card itself. The write-protection is on the card-reader to detect and honor, which isn't universal. Quality card-readers will usually obey the write-protect switch, but cheap ones (eg most of the Chinese ones on eBay/Amazon) will ignore it and write to the card even if the write-protect switch is set. (Also, many cards and adapters don't even display which direction to flip the switch to write-protect it, so you either have to memorize it or you might end up accidentally getting it backwards.) Incidentally, the write-protect switch on memory-cards works exactly like the write-protect tab or notch on floppy-disks, they were just a piece of plastic and the ability to write or not was incumbent on the drive itself; the difference is there are no reported cases of floppy-drives ignoring the write-protect tab.
@FunctionGermany
@FunctionGermany Жыл бұрын
tl;dr V30, V60 etc. are the most useful specs on a glance because it's actually validated write-speeds (given the right SD card reader)
@ravenclawavenger2170
@ravenclawavenger2170 Жыл бұрын
A note on mounting. If your phone or tablet has an SD card it is very important that any time the card is mounted for read/write it must be synced and unmounted before the device is unmounted. It must be unmounted before it is removed. Failure to do so is liable to corrupt the card. Phones vary.on how well the phone syncs and unmounts the card especially when it shuts down because the battery is exhausted. Don't let.the phone run down all the way.
@androidlogin3065
@androidlogin3065 Жыл бұрын
1:04 That Write-Protect is not hardware based inside the card, it is software based on the operating system level. I had seen write software that can ignore the state of that switch ... and physically it is a plastic that do not act inside the SD card at all, it only acts to a switch on the port and the state of that switch can be software-ignored/bypassed.
@BloxianMapping
@BloxianMapping 8 ай бұрын
Nah bro this means this card has a V6 cylinders engine inside it 4:39
@Psychx_
@Psychx_ Жыл бұрын
Riley I'm pretty sure that SD Express is not 1 TB/s. 4:18
@CreativeMindsAudio
@CreativeMindsAudio Жыл бұрын
The thing is some cards will say the speed but in reality it's not the same as a V90 certification even if the speed is the same. i feel like the V90 stuff is more about minimums/averages vs maximums which are often what is shown on the cards.
@joelconolly5574
@joelconolly5574 Жыл бұрын
This is the most useful Techquickie for me. The amount of time I wanted to understand these cards is horrendous. Thanks for the tips.
@carltonhealy9457
@carltonhealy9457 Жыл бұрын
I don't believe it's part of the SD standard, but there's also "Endurance" cards that utilize more rugged flash memory and other things to make them last longer than normal cards in security and dashboard camera applications. Those applications are continuously erasing and writing to the card, which will render a normal SD card useless after a few weeks or months, while the endurance cards can last for years.
@Hybris51129
@Hybris51129 Жыл бұрын
Something I always wanted to sit down and do the math on is using the highest capacity microSD cards how of those would fit in a standard 26ft U-Haul box truck. A random thought I came up with after watching an radio observatory I think physically ship their hard drives back to a lab because it was faster than trying to send the data over any sort of online connection.
@benjaminmiller3620
@benjaminmiller3620 Жыл бұрын
Have you seen Coridoor Digitals "VFX Artist Reveals the TRUE Scale of Data!" ? Not this exact question, but similar.
@darrennew8211
@darrennew8211 Жыл бұрын
I think XKCD addressed this. I think he also had a comic where he figured out you could put all of iTunes on SD cards that would fit in a soda can.
@benjaminmiller3620
@benjaminmiller3620 Жыл бұрын
In the complete opposite direction regarding both carrying capacity & reliability see: RFC 1149, RFC 2549, & RFC 1149. the IPoAC protocol.
@shanent5793
@shanent5793 Жыл бұрын
What's stopping you?
@xsforreal
@xsforreal Жыл бұрын
This video came right on time! I was just looking for an SD card for my school photography class, and I was so confused about which specs were the best.
@skrribe
@skrribe Жыл бұрын
nice job getting the account back! hope it stays in the right hands for a long time
@piezku
@piezku Жыл бұрын
for a long time, but not forever :D
@baby333
@baby333 Жыл бұрын
Usually people buy based of: 1) Size 2) Which is the cheapest for that price XD
@dgurevich1
@dgurevich1 Жыл бұрын
I believe the different markings for speed are there to indicate compliance with a spec. The requirements for video recording differ from image or audio recording so I guess they get certified for the purpose.
@Rebateman
@Rebateman Жыл бұрын
Imagine having a Nintendo Wii that's fully RGB including the system, SD card, USB for homebrew, etc. Even potentially an RGB theme for the Homebrew Channe;.
@Psycandy
@Psycandy Жыл бұрын
there's room for at least 10 more symbols on even the tiny cards. There's room for a 'turbo' and "XX" or "Z" or 'speed' and a version in numerals like 'UH VII' for ultra hardcore 7th gen. There needs to be a few logos which don't mean anything but which will lure buyers who like lots of logos and a brand with 'carbon', 'nano' or 'quantum' for the nerds to puzzle over. Finally, make the logos gold, silver or bronze, just for laughs.
@Zero_xXD
@Zero_xXD Жыл бұрын
am so happy that this channel is back
@XionSteel
@XionSteel Жыл бұрын
This video reminded me of my recent issues with buying storage cards over amazon. I bought 2 and they did in fact read at the proper speeds but they acted like they were end of life with reading and writing errors anytime i tried to do anything including either trying to set it up in a vita mod or try to use it for switch storage. Decided to go with a cheapo brand from someplace local and haven't had a single issue with it. ~.~
@HyperVectra
@HyperVectra Жыл бұрын
Prob recycled e-waste
@sirkllr
@sirkllr Жыл бұрын
So glad that all the tech tips channels are back on line
@NicolaLarosa
@NicolaLarosa Жыл бұрын
"Oh God. RGB SD cards are coming, aren't they?" Not to THIS household! 🤣
@bustergundo516
@bustergundo516 Жыл бұрын
Agreed
@LiveHiFi
@LiveHiFi Жыл бұрын
Fourth criteria is durability. I buy endurance cards for this reason.
@Vednier
@Vednier Жыл бұрын
Should be notes that "write protect notch" only TELLS your cardrider (internal in laptop or USB) that you want this card read-only. Its always up-to reader to actually implement circuit to even see if notch set in this position for this restriction to work and not everyone do. Many cheap chinese card readers simply oblivious about this notch and never tell driver that its sets to locked.
@_Mike.P
@_Mike.P Жыл бұрын
Glad you guys are back.
@bgezal
@bgezal Жыл бұрын
There is also "TF card". The TF format was made into the MicroSD standard so it's identical.
@kadancomputers
@kadancomputers Жыл бұрын
TF card is used now just to save paying royalties to use the SD logos
@stevenemert837
@stevenemert837 Жыл бұрын
Recently had a device where I needed a replacement mini-SD card. None available locally, Amazon, eBay, etc. Through discussion forums, found a place in the UK where I could obtain one. (I'm in the US). Thank you, UK guys!
@jeffleonard343
@jeffleonard343 Жыл бұрын
Lol imagine an RGB rave party emitting out from your camera’s SD slot
@JimmyCerra
@JimmyCerra Жыл бұрын
Don't forgot A for "app" speed. It tells you the minimum random access speeds. A card with a least an "A1" speed label is often useful for OSes like on Raspberry Pis. A1 means at least 1500 iops random read/500 iops random write. A2 means at least 4000 ipos random read/2000 iops random write. This is different from the V speed ratings, which are for sustained access that's good for video. (Get it? A for apps, V for videos, etc.)
@MaximNightFury
@MaximNightFury Жыл бұрын
I'm waiting for LTT branded SD cards that outperform your average Macbook
@m-tech1816
@m-tech1816 Жыл бұрын
They started printing the speeds on the cards as well, but in my testing, the actual measured speeds if the newer sandisc 170mbps cards is exactly the same, as their 90mbps ones.. So yeah, even good will isn't good enough
@samtherat6
@samtherat6 Жыл бұрын
4:18 1 terabyte a second seems really high. Sources I found online indicate a theoretical max of 4GB/s.
@Keepskatin
@Keepskatin Жыл бұрын
4 GB is still insane
@Sandmansa
@Sandmansa Жыл бұрын
I wish I knew about this a couple of months ago when I was shopping for a new SD card for my cars dashcam. It would have helped save me the headache trying to figure out all that mess.
@taxuanbach0908
@taxuanbach0908 8 ай бұрын
4:59 bro giving manufacturers idea
@DaLoveDonkey69420
@DaLoveDonkey69420 Жыл бұрын
I needed this video because I was about 3 days away from googling it as I'm about to buy a new one for the gopro9
@albertsimohartono
@albertsimohartono Жыл бұрын
4:16 ah yes... 1 TB/s SD card made by unicorn I guess
@okaro6595
@okaro6595 Жыл бұрын
Important thing is not to buy a card that your device does not support like UHS-II if the camera supports only UHS-I. You will not get any extra benefit but pay extra.Typically the manual of your camera tells what cards are recommended. Also from time to time do a full format on the camera to the card. That speeds it up. Do not do it on a PC, that would take ages and it would not help.
@frohike4770
@frohike4770 Жыл бұрын
Simple, clear, to the point, and very helpful. Thanks!
@peachypeach6239
@peachypeach6239 Жыл бұрын
would it really be easier if they print the speed of the card on itself? since I bought some Sandisk SD cards recently that say 150MB/s but also SDXC, 10 in a C, 3 in U, roman I, V 30 and with the word Extreme written above all of that it's quite a mess still.
@kekistanifreedomfighter4197
@kekistanifreedomfighter4197 Жыл бұрын
4:15 i'm guessing writers meant gigabyte & not terabyte
@eurodudenj
@eurodudenj 9 ай бұрын
Definitely. :)
@danjo8673
@danjo8673 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for explaining all the markings, I've been confused by them for a long time.
@Kirmo13
@Kirmo13 Жыл бұрын
You forgot to mention the fact that most of the times, the read and write speeds that are reported on the card itself are in megaBITS, yes BITS not bytes. When I learned this my mind was blown.
@BlessedUnrest
@BlessedUnrest Жыл бұрын
difference?
@pushotr
@pushotr Жыл бұрын
@@BlessedUnrest 1 byte = 8 bit
@BeHappyTo
@BeHappyTo Жыл бұрын
the numbers are lies/marketing and overstated, they are 8x slower than you would think if youre used to megabytes
@Kirmo13
@Kirmo13 Жыл бұрын
@@BlessedUnrest 1 byte = 8 bites It's a shady practice that makes you think your SD card is 8x as fast as you think it is.
@darrennew8211
@darrennew8211 Жыл бұрын
To be fair, lots of things that communicate over a bus are measured in bits per second instead of bytes.
@1whoDoesSimply
@1whoDoesSimply Жыл бұрын
I'm glad you guys got your channel back!
@jaimebaca9439
@jaimebaca9439 Жыл бұрын
Linus in the background, “it’s all apples fault”!
@LEGIT_ELITE
@LEGIT_ELITE Жыл бұрын
I literally just spent time going through these to buy a card for my Steam Deck...you couldn't put this out a couple days early lol. Although the A1/A2 Classes aren't covered in this video which was important to me.
@CalcProgrammer1
@CalcProgrammer1 Жыл бұрын
A1/A2 are essential for gaming and boot drive cards and they completely ignored them.
@shaider1982
@shaider1982 Жыл бұрын
Technology Connections had an extensive video on the history on how the SD card got its markings.
@Brian-bd5vb
@Brian-bd5vb Жыл бұрын
Photographer here who's been buying SD cards for 15+ years. Spot on video! I remember in the early days before I educated myself how confusing all the options were. Always check the specs of your device for compatibility, format the card in the device and replace the card before its life cycle is over to ensure you never loose data.
@ov1lord
@ov1lord Жыл бұрын
What's the life cycle of an card? ( SanDisk extreme Pro in my case)
@paulelderson934
@paulelderson934 Жыл бұрын
I think they often don't present the lifespan for micro SD cards in TBW like they do with SSD's. Warranty is often a good indication, though. I believe SanDisk offers 5 years for the extreme line-up, so likely 1.5 times that to get the general lifespan. Of course it mainly hangs on usage. Shooting 4k video on a regular basis will wear it out relatively fast, while using it as a game drive on a switch will mean you likely won't ever reach write capacity before the card is worn out of lost.
@brassmule
@brassmule Жыл бұрын
Why are we concerned about loose data? Is tight data better?
@jasonh1498
@jasonh1498 Жыл бұрын
If you are doing this professionally, you should really be using equipment that writes data to two SD cards simultaneously. Also, the cards might just disable writing to them to protect themselves, so hopefully the camera throws up an error and you can easily just read what data you put on it up until that point.
@Brian-bd5vb
@Brian-bd5vb Жыл бұрын
@Michael I may not have proofread my work.. Lose*
@fuseteam
@fuseteam Жыл бұрын
SD and USB must be long time friends
@NottJoeyOfficial
@NottJoeyOfficial Жыл бұрын
I would like to point out that the drive size limit of FAT32 is 2TB, so any SD card that is under 2TB in capacity can be formatted to FAT32 and have their full capacity used by older devices that only support that standard. You need to get software that will let you format them to FAT32 as Windows doesn't let you format anything higher than 32 gigs to that format, but I have multiple 128 gigabyte SD cards and even a 256 gigabyte SD card formatted to FAT32 for compatibility with older devices.
@hiddeninthewires2308
@hiddeninthewires2308 Жыл бұрын
riley you are most entertaining presenter in linus meda group. Keep rockin.
@YonatanAvhar
@YonatanAvhar Жыл бұрын
This makes the USB-IF naming scheme sound reasonable
@nickpelov
@nickpelov Жыл бұрын
0:15 So reliability is not even a thing with sd cards?
@dqkneely9803
@dqkneely9803 Жыл бұрын
This was ultra informative. i immediately grabbed my SD cards that i had recently purchased to follow along. i learned so much. thanks for this.
@crawlerin
@crawlerin Жыл бұрын
No mention of Application Performance Class?
@cemerson
@cemerson Жыл бұрын
Wash SD card at 30 degrees with mild detergent. Do not tumble dry.
@R_C420
@R_C420 Жыл бұрын
EFI indicates that it's electronically fuel injected The Phi symbol is how the rolling resistance is expressed ∆i is it's simi-major axis The hand over a wavy set of lines that reminds me of 'stroke the furry wall' from Get Him to the Greek means the surface may be hot. The upside down triangle is an arrow that shows how to insert the card. ® the encircled R means you've picked the "right" card. Left cards are very rare. The partially eaten apple symbol adds 100 dollars to the product. Each. The number 5 inside the recycle logo means it's autoclavable.
@ViralLiving
@ViralLiving Жыл бұрын
Nice to see yall are back up and running again!
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