How to Choose a Headphone Amp and DAC

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@vijeyv7890
@vijeyv7890 6 жыл бұрын
WTF why is choosing a new pair of headphones harder than building a PC
@yungtraplord5460
@yungtraplord5460 6 жыл бұрын
Vijey V for real
@MrBruscoL
@MrBruscoL 6 жыл бұрын
Because its no math, its not a benchmark its not a certain thing, you go search dt990, one guy says its amazing, the other one says he prefers dt770. Just get a headphone that you read a review and you think it will bw great. If its not, return it. With pc you know you need at least 8gb of ram, you can look for a cpu and gpu depending on the resolution of your display etc. Just remember, from what ive heard, you are better off with magni 3 or another headphone amp than with those sound card things from astro, and creative soundblasting zxy things
@cordia96
@cordia96 6 жыл бұрын
Audio is more subjective than visuals. I would recommend going to an electronics department and trying on headphones. Then wash your ears with sanitizer, because eww.
@21minute
@21minute 6 жыл бұрын
lmao!
@Classikh
@Classikh 6 жыл бұрын
Just buy some Philips SHP9500S's and if you game buy a V-MODA BoomPro too.
@austinflavio3457
@austinflavio3457 8 жыл бұрын
after days of research, you decided to move to Canada.
@anothername8107
@anothername8107 5 жыл бұрын
What?
@Dad-lu1oi
@Dad-lu1oi 4 жыл бұрын
I dont get it, care to come back and explain?
@The7AceGaming
@The7AceGaming 4 жыл бұрын
I need an answer to this statement
@austinflavio3457
@austinflavio3457 4 жыл бұрын
@@Dad-lu1oi honestly fam I have no fucking idea what I posted this for
@ATK.
@ATK. 4 жыл бұрын
Austin Flavio hi!
@WAQWBrentwood
@WAQWBrentwood 8 жыл бұрын
"Threshold of Pain" is a good name for a band.
@invertedv12powerhouse77
@invertedv12powerhouse77 8 жыл бұрын
a heavy metal band?
@jamesslick4790
@jamesslick4790 8 жыл бұрын
Natch!
@karikaroyt2689
@karikaroyt2689 8 жыл бұрын
+Justin sénéchal UGH! No, Mom! It's progressive vegan slamming brutal blackened death gore grind.
@calebrobertson5041
@calebrobertson5041 8 жыл бұрын
Depends on how you define a good band
@WAQWBrentwood
@WAQWBrentwood 8 жыл бұрын
A good name,not necessarily a good band.
@CrudeBrothers
@CrudeBrothers 6 жыл бұрын
Great video ... just started getting into high-end headphones, amps, etc
@hwah9484
@hwah9484 4 жыл бұрын
Why do you guys not upload alot anymore
@beatsprodbycm9455
@beatsprodbycm9455 5 жыл бұрын
bro I just wanted headphones for mixing now I'm stuck searching up about dacs and headphone amps and audio interfaces I'm all over the place help lol
@xXRoBiN21Xx
@xXRoBiN21Xx 5 жыл бұрын
Same 😂 just gonna get a fiio Amp for like 60$ and hope it works well
@beatsprodbycm9455
@beatsprodbycm9455 5 жыл бұрын
Absolutely peak ive been told to get a good audio interface with a good on board dac inside so if that helps you then there you go bro haha.
@garrisonwhipple1289
@garrisonwhipple1289 5 жыл бұрын
beatsprodbycm haha same. How tf am I supposed to hook up an amp if I am already using an audio interface?
@paulm2467
@paulm2467 4 жыл бұрын
Audioquest dragonfly cobalt or audiolab M-Dac nano (dac/amp combinations) will improve any earbuds and virtually all headphones and they are both small, light powerful and very portable.
@Tallnerdyguy
@Tallnerdyguy 4 жыл бұрын
@@paulm2467 Max limit on any USB dac/amp is 5v/1.2a. Not enough to power 250/600 ohm headphones.
@dangerouspie0319
@dangerouspie0319 8 жыл бұрын
Just be careful with this stuff guys. There's a lot of snake oil in the hi-fi market right now.
@DueM
@DueM 8 жыл бұрын
Agree with you, always has been though.
@lesvideodefelix
@lesvideodefelix 8 жыл бұрын
snake oil? i don't get it
@dangerouspie0319
@dangerouspie0319 8 жыл бұрын
Warrox. It's a term for products that claim to do a lot, but most likely don't do much at all. It comes from when salesmen used to sell people actual oil from snakes, claiming that it was basically a cure-all. Needless to say, it isn't.
@lesvideodefelix
@lesvideodefelix 8 жыл бұрын
+Dangerous Pie thank you :)
@karbehemoth
@karbehemoth 8 жыл бұрын
Sony's hi-fi sdcard is good example.
@dracer35
@dracer35 Жыл бұрын
6 years later this is still good info. Thanks baby face Luke! 😂
@briancaine9130
@briancaine9130 Жыл бұрын
Agree
@parthibanarivalagan3119
@parthibanarivalagan3119 Жыл бұрын
Going through the same now 😂
@flos3328
@flos3328 8 жыл бұрын
and than they listen to mp3 at 128kb/s...
@jankristijan5889
@jankristijan5889 5 жыл бұрын
exactly download some flac
@Whirlybird88
@Whirlybird88 5 жыл бұрын
@@jankristijan5889 This. Although if it's most typical popular music, it will probably still suck due to poor production quality.
@juhanakaarlehto7754
@juhanakaarlehto7754 4 жыл бұрын
most people fail to differentiate FLAC/WAV from well compressed mp3. Especially at 320kbps which most streaming services provide nowadays.
@jankristijan5889
@jankristijan5889 4 жыл бұрын
@@juhanakaarlehto7754 yes that's right but a good amplifier, player and speakers sure will make a difference
@MrAhuraMazda
@MrAhuraMazda 4 жыл бұрын
According to ABX testing, most people cannot tell the difference between mp3 and "lossless" thats just a fact. That includes people with good gear. Unless you're a DJ blasting music, and even that is lile 128kbps vs CD quality. 330 vs lossless? Or even worse CD Quality vs Lossless? Total snakeoil. No audible difference. No human being can successfully differentiate 1400 kbps CDs with 8000kbps lossless. Regardless of $1 million equipment. ALL the "lost" frequencies are well above a human ear. A dog could tell the difference thats it
@nederlandas
@nederlandas 7 жыл бұрын
Video for headphones, I like how the audio here is full of glitches xD
@FelixTBat
@FelixTBat 3 жыл бұрын
Just in case people are wondering why 10db is would be considered safe under the "threshold of pain", is because it'd actually be half the volume. Anything that increases or decreases in volume by 10db is respectively double or half as loud as the previous number. IE something that is 120 db will be TWICE as loud as 110 db. Please keep this in mind when looking at the "loudness" numbers from the headphone calculator :)
@koanzx1
@koanzx1 4 ай бұрын
nope, adding 3db is times 2 and adding 10db would be times 10. formula is 10 log (Power2/Power1) dB . Let's say p2 is ten times more powerful than P1 so we have 10log(10/1) = 10log(10) = 10db. If p2 is 2 times p1 we have 10log(2/1)= 10log(2) ≈ 3 (3.01029995664 exactly)
@76S30
@76S30 5 жыл бұрын
@ about 1:54 in ref. to Sensitivity, 99dB @ 1mW will be 102dB @2mW not double the dB. Every time you double down on power you only gain 3 decibels.
@TechGamesAU
@TechGamesAU 8 жыл бұрын
It's still too hard, just tell me exactly what to buy.
@matthewdecker8739
@matthewdecker8739 8 жыл бұрын
Music do you listen to? Open or closed? Budget and will you use these in public?
@TechGamesAU
@TechGamesAU 8 жыл бұрын
+Matthew Decker yo. I listen to hardcore and death metal. Budget is $700 USD.
@IcyFlame0
@IcyFlame0 8 жыл бұрын
+DylanDesign Are you looking for headphones, a dac and/or an amp?
@TechGamesAU
@TechGamesAU 8 жыл бұрын
+nathaniel palmer is like something portable to use with my phone. What do you recommend? Thanks.
@IcyFlame0
@IcyFlame0 8 жыл бұрын
Portable headphones? Portable amp or portable DAC/amp? You only really need the DAC if you don't like how your phone sounds through headphones or if you're going to use it on a computer/laptop and don't like how that sounds through headphones.
@PendragonNC
@PendragonNC 4 жыл бұрын
So, if you spend more on headphones, you typically need to buy even more equipment. Logic.
@prodjayweb3766
@prodjayweb3766 4 жыл бұрын
So true 🤣🤣🤣
@irun2sanaxox
@irun2sanaxox 3 жыл бұрын
you don’t need to but you’ll get more
@PolarBearBlue
@PolarBearBlue 6 жыл бұрын
This video, as well as others on the channel, is a Godsend. Explained information in a fast and precise way, watered down to layman's terms so that none of it is confusing. Thank you and keep it up
@aviadleibovich
@aviadleibovich 7 жыл бұрын
amazing video for starters. really liked it, but you can also amp up the sound stage by amplifiers, and obviously the main factor fpr sound stage is if the headphones is open back, semi open or closed...
@gazm2k5
@gazm2k5 8 жыл бұрын
The techquickie lighting and whitebalance is god awful.
@AnCoSt1
@AnCoSt1 5 жыл бұрын
he looks so creamy
@krimpymess
@krimpymess 5 жыл бұрын
@Who's Forty Two Just like we audiphiles care about audio, photographers care about color corrections lol
@miguelpereira934
@miguelpereira934 4 жыл бұрын
Brian Morones nah bro anybody with eyes gets weird vibes out of it
@LightningJack
@LightningJack 3 жыл бұрын
@@krimpymess Colour corrections are more viewable through the medium though compared to sound. The average person can probably tell the difference betweem good editing and bad editing, the average person on the other hand cannot tell the different between 124kb/s and lossless. I believe this is all down to what we've seen though. Most people have seen a multi-million dollar movie, not many have experience audiophile-grade sound.
@kaitsurugi3280
@kaitsurugi3280 4 жыл бұрын
This was actually helpful! Sometimes Techquickie leaves me with more questions than answers 😅
@Brian-wy4hg
@Brian-wy4hg 7 жыл бұрын
I wear Sennheiser Orpheus headphones with my phone in public with no amp
@Brian-wy4hg
@Brian-wy4hg 7 жыл бұрын
Jacinta Rule mad cuz broke
@Brian-wy4hg
@Brian-wy4hg 7 жыл бұрын
Computexpert I would just buy another pair and have that guy who smashed my headpphones executed
@Brian-wy4hg
@Brian-wy4hg 7 жыл бұрын
Computexpert I would get my hounds to track him down and have him turned into dog food
@Brian-wy4hg
@Brian-wy4hg 7 жыл бұрын
Computexpert I can call them in from anywhere and they will come to me
@Brian-wy4hg
@Brian-wy4hg 7 жыл бұрын
Computexpert I am above all human law. I can do whatever I want and not be punished. I actually was involved in the original making of the Sennheiser Orpheus headphones concept back in 1964. So keep talking
@deyesed
@deyesed 6 жыл бұрын
Impedance is the reciprocal of admittance. Impedance is different from plain electrical resistance because it accounts for reactance, which is time and load dependent.
@Zhiloreznik
@Zhiloreznik 8 жыл бұрын
Audioquest Dragonfly Black or Red for more powah. Expensive but will work directly with your phone without the need for a battery pack or the need to charge your dac. Super happy with the red one with Sennheiser Momentums 2.0 over ear. But if you don't need it to be portable and just be on the desk there are cheaper options.
@e.kent.d9561
@e.kent.d9561 8 жыл бұрын
Very GOOD advise in this video! Also, I have an external DAC that cost $105.00 and it did wonders for the sound coming out of my computer (music). No need to go more expensive, unless you just have to, for your own reasons. We all have our own tastes. I concur with the rest of your advice too, from my own experience.
@saintjhn8513
@saintjhn8513 2 жыл бұрын
Name if you still have it in you possession?
@UnknownEAFCPlayer
@UnknownEAFCPlayer 3 жыл бұрын
My 250 ohm DT 990 Pro sounds A-MA-ZING when I connect it directly to my 2 year old Samsung Note 9, but it's so quiet and tinny when connected to the 5 month old motherboard on my PC, so I need to get an amp. It's impressive how the phone delivers so much more power than a standard size computer motherboard.
@soulfulfool
@soulfulfool 2 жыл бұрын
I bet they are loud as fuck with phone haha
@prime2313
@prime2313 7 жыл бұрын
Linus Tech tips is my favorite KZbin channel damn all I want to know is there a program to boost volume
@TheBaken
@TheBaken 8 жыл бұрын
This is extremely useful and timely- I was just looking for how to figure out this info when your video came out. Thanks Luke!
@nin6246
@nin6246 4 жыл бұрын
It's nice to have an external DAC - I recommend it!
@MrWalker1000
@MrWalker1000 7 жыл бұрын
there are like a billion different DAC/amps both solid state and tube amps. how the fuck am i supposed to pick from that?
@dnd6379
@dnd6379 7 жыл бұрын
MrWalker1000 welp..... Entry level ones are about 70 buck and up, i have fiio e10k and a grand worth of headphones and it works great on all of the
@MrWalker1000
@MrWalker1000 7 жыл бұрын
Imabitch what about amps/dac like tube or solid state
@dnd6379
@dnd6379 7 жыл бұрын
MrWalker1000​​​ what i have is solid, what isnt tube is solid, tube and solids produce different kind of music its really just preference but solid is cheaper and prolly best for anyone also you can hear the difference on Z reviews youtube channel, zeos put a sound demo on, so check it out. For me personally tube sounds better because they are a bit warmer than the solids in audio quality i mean
@dnd6379
@dnd6379 7 жыл бұрын
E10k is gonna drive almost everything without a problem
@stormlord121
@stormlord121 7 жыл бұрын
MrWalker1000 Look for Zeos Pantera on KZbin and/or r/zeos on Reddit if you use it. That guy knows his stuff.
@scottr7683
@scottr7683 6 жыл бұрын
I have sennheiser 558 + fiio dac/amp combo. Total price was ~170 for the full set. It's pretty neutral, and high quality.
@LevisL95
@LevisL95 8 жыл бұрын
My 250 Ohm Beyerdynamic DT880's work just fine with a phone. I find no difference comparing Oneplus X and MSI Z87 Mpower motherboard that should be "600 Ohm headphone ready". Now, moving on to my new Harman/Kardon AVR-255 home theater amp, I do hear a difference! More power on bass and a bit more open/clear sound (using the built in dac). But I'd say that the 250 Ohm Beyerdynamic's are easily passable for mobile use on the side. Even if you can't afford a dedicated amp/dac right away, I think you'll enjoy them still.
@pimpetigo
@pimpetigo 2 жыл бұрын
Thank God lol what about laptops I'd imagine if they work well on the phone wo dacs and amps then why not on laptops too
@braedonsrantsmore2482
@braedonsrantsmore2482 6 жыл бұрын
Here are headphones I am getting Hifiman edition s Frequency response from 15 HZS to 22 KHZs Sensitivity 113db Impedance 18 Do I need amp I this want something make my phone play louder because like every pair of headphones I get always sucks on my phone it's too low in volume and it also makes headphones sound kinda of bad
@jzandlerpus4508
@jzandlerpus4508 8 жыл бұрын
DAC: Schiit Bifrost AMP: Schiit Asgard 2 Headphones: Sennheiser hd 650
@mochidomo
@mochidomo 4 жыл бұрын
WeLL schiit.
@Pommezul
@Pommezul 4 жыл бұрын
Good alte expensive german qualität
@lmaoroflcopter
@lmaoroflcopter 4 жыл бұрын
Quality schiit. Been contemplating getting my hands on some of that good schiit someday soon but the schiit costs so much!
@danielg.7176
@danielg.7176 4 жыл бұрын
Sorry, i dont speak billionaire
@thebatmanwholaughs219
@thebatmanwholaughs219 4 жыл бұрын
My setup is DAC: Schiit Modi 3 AMP: Schiit Magni Heresy Headphones: Sennheiser HD 660 S
@BenjaminOienMB
@BenjaminOienMB 5 жыл бұрын
For the very best amp that won't cost you your retirement savings, Google: Massdrop THX 789 Monoprice THX 788
@Whirlybird88
@Whirlybird88 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this. I'm currently using a JDS EL DAC and JDS Atom amp combo, but after seeing your post and looking into this Monolith unit I think I know what my potential upgrade path will be. And I love the way it looks. :)
@user-zu1ix3yq2w
@user-zu1ix3yq2w 4 жыл бұрын
I guess you could get a sound card if you want to save money.
@BenjaminOienMB
@BenjaminOienMB 4 жыл бұрын
@@user-zu1ix3yq2w My post is for those looking to drive headphones such as HD650 and beyond. If you subscribe to the "sound is sound" school of thought, a moderately priced USB headset may give you some good bang for your buck.
@user-zu1ix3yq2w
@user-zu1ix3yq2w 4 жыл бұрын
@@BenjaminOienMB The impedance on those is kinda high. So I suppose an amp would be better. Impedance is a tricky subject I'm not well versed in. Some sound cards have an output impedance of 220Ohms; I'm not sure what pair of headphones would be a good match for such a high impedance. Some have 10Ohms (some sound cards have an amp built-in). I've heard really good things about THX 788. It sounds like a great choice if you believe an amp and dac makes a difference. As I understand it, headphones are the most important piece.
@lednerg
@lednerg 5 жыл бұрын
I want a shirt that just says "TECH" on it, too.
@johnkristian
@johnkristian 8 жыл бұрын
when I switched to an external dac/headphone amp (hegel super), I had no idea what I had missing out on. I didn't think I had any bakground noise, but my god there where a big difference. Point is that you might not have a chance to tell berfore you actuallly try one. Soundstage was a lot cleaner than my laptops integrated audio. The hegel super was great value and high end sound (I've had Hegel HD 11 and I'm now using HD25 in my stereo setup) but the super is the one dac thar gave the best improvement for it's price. Sadly, they're went out of production after just a couple of years, but it should be possible to find some on Ebay for a decent price (about 990 USD). I Ended up buying three.... two for my office computers and one for my laptop/phone.
@zejalt8608
@zejalt8608 4 жыл бұрын
LMG clearly doesn't have audio technicians in the team. It is not true that the higger the impedance the better the sound. The video didn't even mention frequency response graphs.
@tprice2012
@tprice2012 8 жыл бұрын
I love my Mayflower Objective2 ODAC combo, it just works and sounds great!
@hokayks4633
@hokayks4633 4 жыл бұрын
GCSE maths: Its my time to shine Me and my terrible memory: no u
@benp9442
@benp9442 4 жыл бұрын
U mean GCSE Physics 😂
@M1ckeyD
@M1ckeyD 7 жыл бұрын
why can't I find any recent dac reviews
@earlsteyn4458
@earlsteyn4458 7 жыл бұрын
z reviews
@RefrigeratedTP
@RefrigeratedTP 5 жыл бұрын
Liked for the use of a Schiit specification page, and also for the RIP of your tan you had going on here in 2016. same here tho.
@CrossfeetGaming
@CrossfeetGaming 2 жыл бұрын
Man, I've been at this for almost 3 weeks now. The first 10 seconds hit me so hard.
@Thee_Jadex
@Thee_Jadex 2 жыл бұрын
Ikr, god dang it just dosnt end
@CrossfeetGaming
@CrossfeetGaming 2 жыл бұрын
@@Thee_Jadex I know you didn't ask, but if you wanna know what I settled with, I have Moondrop Starfields, Sparks, and Chu (on the way). On the headphone side, I now have a Hifiman HE400SE. As for the DAC/AMP, I have the iFi Zen v2.
@Thee_Jadex
@Thee_Jadex 2 жыл бұрын
@@CrossfeetGaming Oh sick man! Ya I didnt ask but I actually do care, I was looking at the starfields they look just gorgeous. Im guessing by the fact you got a few that moondrops must perform as well as they look eh? Truthfully for a second there i thought they were like a collab with the new starfield game coming out but guess it was just a coincidence. Anywho i'm going with Beyerdynamic's DT 1990 Pro headphones personally, im sure Hifimans are great but just look too fragile for me build wise (Just as a general statement, the HE400 actually looks pretty sturdy). I also decided on going with Schiits Valhalla 2 amp since after like 2 days of research Schiits really about as good value as you can get without spending thousands of dollars and they offer their own repair service if anything breaks which i just thought was phenominal. Ill probably get their Modi Multibit when its back in stock but im gonna run the dac off my gpu for the time being Edit: Nevermind i found a great deal on Reverb which is bassically ebay for musicians and got a Schiit Bifrost 1.0 which should perform better than the multibit for less!
@charanpalsingh6535
@charanpalsingh6535 7 жыл бұрын
I just got a schitt jotunheim !! This schiit is so nice !!
@sergiosokolov2521
@sergiosokolov2521 6 жыл бұрын
What's a good skit (swedish - same as schiit)? I'll tell you - a multibit skit is much better than a delta-sigma. Just try it
@KSPAtlas
@KSPAtlas 5 жыл бұрын
4:32 my laptop has these things on its built in speakers Oof
@Tallnerdyguy
@Tallnerdyguy 4 жыл бұрын
That's why you buy external equipment and don't rely on laptops for mixing.
@obzen33
@obzen33 8 жыл бұрын
go check out mayflower electronics. i have their o2 dac/amp combo and it's sweeeeet.
@journeyman6802
@journeyman6802 3 жыл бұрын
Nice video! Helped a lot!
@nextlifeonearth
@nextlifeonearth 8 жыл бұрын
It's not about soudstage as much as it is about the tightness of the bass and objective sound. If you want more soundstage, rather than a new DAC you're better off with a new pair of headphones.
@jda457
@jda457 8 жыл бұрын
That bright t-shirt logo though
@x-techgaming
@x-techgaming 5 жыл бұрын
RULE - For BEST headphone performance, you want a Damping Factor of at least 50. RULE - For MINIMUM SAFE headphone performance, you want a Damping Factor of 8. Amp output impedance x 8 = MINIMUM acceptable headphone impedance match. Amp output impedance x 50 = IDEAL (minimum) headphone impedance match. *Applies ONLY to dynamic headphone drivers, NOT to planar or electrostatic drivers. For headphones/IEMs up to ~64 ohms, buy an amp with output impedance as CLOSE TO ZERO as you can find, for best performance.
@thirtyacres7504
@thirtyacres7504 5 жыл бұрын
I still haven't been able to figure out which AMP/DAC to get for my new Sennheiser HD6xx.
@zak-ur6yy
@zak-ur6yy 5 жыл бұрын
I have hd650s which are the originals of the 6xx and I'd recommend the magni Modi combo from schiit
@zak-ur6yy
@zak-ur6yy 5 жыл бұрын
Or the fiio e10k amp DAC combo for cheaper
@federicodubbini-composer
@federicodubbini-composer 5 жыл бұрын
I still don't get it, I have hd650 300ohm but I can still listen to music with my oneplus 3 setting the volume half bar and it is loud
@JSym92
@JSym92 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah because they have a fairly high sensitivity of 103 dB/V. The high impedance just makes them draw more current from your phone.
@goldendragon776
@goldendragon776 6 жыл бұрын
Good explanation
@Prodigy2100
@Prodigy2100 7 жыл бұрын
You spoke about the importance of an Amp having 8x lower output impedance, but didn't mention why. Can someone here enlighten me?
@XandrowA
@XandrowA 6 жыл бұрын
Prodigy2100 Even if it's been quite a while, since you got no answer, here it is: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voltage_divider Basically, if the impedance of the amp is too close from the impedance of the headphones, there will be a noticeable drop in output power, due to losses in the amp internal impedance. If the two impedances are the same, the voltage across the headphones is 50% of what you asked for. If they differ by a factor 8, you get 8/9th of the voltage across the headphones, which is almost 90% (not accounting for any inductance effects here that would change the ratio based on frequency).
@brodieblain187
@brodieblain187 5 жыл бұрын
My headphones are 62 Ohm An 8th of that is 7.75 how close to that number do i have to get? Is it better to round up or down ?
@robotica34
@robotica34 5 жыл бұрын
@@brodieblain187 Round down. You want an amp's impedance to be as low as possible.
@pastoryoda2789
@pastoryoda2789 5 жыл бұрын
Prodigy2100 what kind of piece of shit youtuber doesn't reply to his subs
@RomeoYouMust
@RomeoYouMust 5 жыл бұрын
@@pastoryoda2789 One who gets thousands of comments a day on hundreds of videos. What kind of shit question is that
@NoorquackerInd
@NoorquackerInd 8 жыл бұрын
I have low-end everything, and it is AMAZING
@rezakhalvati6150
@rezakhalvati6150 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you. Finally an intelligent reviewer doing an intelligent video! I would love to get your opinion on the best possible DAC/amp for the Sennheiser IE 800 or IE 800 S. (I had the original IE 800 and I absolutely loved them. Used with Dragonfly Red & iPhone 7). Gave them to my son. Considering getting the newer IE 800 S. Questions: 1. Which portable DAC/amp is best matched to bring out maximum performance of the 800 S? 2. I am also more interested in the newer “Bluetooth” DAC/amps, for example, EarStudio ES100. Is the ES100 capable of bringing out the best of the 800 S’ performance potential? Is the ES100 more powerful, or at least, does it have the same performance level of the Dragonfly Red? Are there other “Bluetooth” DAC/amps that can bring out the full potential of the 800 S that you can recommend? Lastly, would you know if Sennheiser is planning to come out with a Bluetooth/wireless version of the IE 800? I truly look forward to your expert opinion. Thank you!
@zaftra
@zaftra 6 жыл бұрын
This was incredibly helpful
@powerrulez8865
@powerrulez8865 3 жыл бұрын
My wallet: Go back to sleep, Samurai.
@balestre4141
@balestre4141 8 жыл бұрын
Once you've heard music through a DAC, there's no going back
@nathanmartinez2630
@nathanmartinez2630 3 жыл бұрын
DAC's right! ba dum, tiss
@AndrewSmith-yy4sd
@AndrewSmith-yy4sd 5 жыл бұрын
Nice review, i intend to get the FiiO BTR3 mobile amplifier, can you recommend a headphone that would work best with that to offer the best sound experience?
@bananamustard1151
@bananamustard1151 4 жыл бұрын
Get an amp for your headphones, not the other way around.
@SpineShank7
@SpineShank7 8 жыл бұрын
In my experience, more sensitive speakers can actually pick up electrical noise from even high-end internal audio solutions. I have some KRK RP5 G3s and they would pick up a lot of noise from an Asus Xonar Essence STX that my Klipsch Promedia 2.1s and Sennheiser HD598s would not. My solution was to use an external DAC that used optical audio in (Modi 2 Uber to a Magni 2 Uber, in my case)
@shangtakashi8089
@shangtakashi8089 3 жыл бұрын
“The amp’s impedance should be 8X lower than that of the headphone” - I don’t get it since there’s AMPs that support up to 300ohm. So I’m not supposed to buy those if I’m using a 250ohm headphone? Also pleaseeee recommend a BUDGET FRIENDLY amp for DT990 Edition 250OHM, please! I play video-games and listen to music.
@tigerhawk84
@tigerhawk84 8 жыл бұрын
I have some Kingston HyperX Clouds that have an impedance of 60+ ohms and noticed a real difference going from onboard/USB soundcard to an external amp. Like night and day, I would say. Highs, lows, and mids are much MUCH more distinct now.
@EstebanUNSC
@EstebanUNSC 7 жыл бұрын
LG V30 bam
@inevetabledecline
@inevetabledecline 6 жыл бұрын
Hell ya. Love mine.
@flossenking
@flossenking 5 жыл бұрын
Bam boom pow
@kiekko673
@kiekko673 5 жыл бұрын
Esteban Caballero What kinda headphones would you recommend with that phone? Thanks!
@Tallnerdyguy
@Tallnerdyguy 4 жыл бұрын
@@kiekko673 150ohm headphones or less. 300 ohm 6xx barely loud enough
@PerishingFlame
@PerishingFlame 8 жыл бұрын
So, best Amp and DAC for Beiyerdynamic dt 770 Pro 250 ohm? within reasonable cost?
@TheAshuV
@TheAshuV 4 жыл бұрын
Lg g7
@БогданІгнатов
@БогданІгнатов 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheAshuV what is an answer?
@soulfulfool
@soulfulfool 2 жыл бұрын
@@БогданІгнатов he gave you bullshit
@VeselinMarkovic
@VeselinMarkovic 6 жыл бұрын
It's not a Techquickie shirt, it's Tech...?! shirt. lol
@WhiteBoardFinance
@WhiteBoardFinance 5 жыл бұрын
My dedas name is Veselin. Strong name.
@tiberusmoon3492
@tiberusmoon3492 8 жыл бұрын
I like how this was worded or mentioned: "nicer headphones need more power to operate properly" "cheaper headphone or headphone designed specifically to work with mobile devices" . . . . . DrDre studio beats are +£300 and show no visable info for impedence or frequency response . . good luck ;)
@Suiax
@Suiax Жыл бұрын
Awesome. I did the math, and my Fiio K3 should be more than capable handle the Hifiman Edition XS I just ordered, especially on balanced output. Thanks, baby face Luke!
@Rflexion
@Rflexion 8 жыл бұрын
1:04 I HAVE THOSE ON THE LEFT :OOOO O.O
@meeskuiper
@meeskuiper 8 жыл бұрын
looking for a cheap amp for my Beyerdynamic DT 990 Pro 250 Ohm.
@wolfetrax
@wolfetrax 8 жыл бұрын
Luke looks a lot like Trump. Is it just me? He's got a weird tan and he looks a lot like trump for some reason
@oldbalogna9926
@oldbalogna9926 8 жыл бұрын
He just shaved and i assume this was filmed after he got back from mexico, but i dont see it lol
@JohnDoe-uq2qd
@JohnDoe-uq2qd 8 жыл бұрын
He looks absolutely nothing like Trump
@LE0NSKA
@LE0NSKA 8 жыл бұрын
I bet that's future videorelated somehow.. channel superfun I'd guess
@motoryzen
@motoryzen 8 жыл бұрын
Putting Luke in the same sentence as that NDAA/Rothchild untrustworthy pos Trump is as asinine as putting a tick on a healthy innocent dog. NO thanks.
@QueenOfMud
@QueenOfMud 8 жыл бұрын
Hey back off man. I love your light purple hair and orange skin, Luke!
@andrewskaterrr
@andrewskaterrr 8 жыл бұрын
I've had to temporarily move my pc and don't have my dac hooked up. My Asus Z97-AR's DAC is TERRIBLE. If I play Bad Bitches by Snow tha Product, the distortion is INSANE, it also doesn't get nearly as loud as my DAC, a major issue in CSGO. Also my iPhone 4s, 5s, and 5se all had better DACs than the motherboard, louder and cleaner. I use Audio Technica M50Xs 38ohms www.audio-technica.com/cms/headphones/99aff89488ddd6b1/ The DAC I use is the Radio Shack Optical-to-RCA converter. The sound stage improvement was very noticeable as well. I honestly didn't expect much and I only bought it because my 1000w Gold Xcilo psu had some video display induced noise and there was literally no way to get away from it except with optical (light not electricity). It also supports 192khz/24bit which was mandatory for me with low THD%. The RS DAC is this but re-branded I believe. www.amazon.com/Digital-Optical-Analog-Converter-Adapter/dp/B003OND0N4/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1471393213&sr=8-6&keywords=192khz+dac I did find another version which is cheaper and has a headphone jack as well www.amazon.com/Digital-Analog-Converter-Optical-Toslink/dp/B005K2TXMO/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1471393213&sr=8-3&keywords=192khz+dac I HIGHLY recommend at least getting one of these cheap DACs.
@NightlyMirror
@NightlyMirror 6 жыл бұрын
Everywhere I go, no one is answering my question - and it's a very simple one: Which impedance range is best for home recording with an HP ENVY m4 laptop, Focusrite Scarlett 6i6 and Yamaha MG10XU mixer for home recording or internet radio? At which end of the impedance range between 8 and 300 ohms do I need to buy? Thank you!
@M4RC3L001
@M4RC3L001 8 жыл бұрын
Jeez, get your damn color correction right!....
@kingnone6656
@kingnone6656 8 жыл бұрын
but deez things don't got rgb lighting or say dullby digitsall 7.3 or have dragunnz on dem! !!!!
@clay7840
@clay7840 8 жыл бұрын
schiit stack + HD 600 or 650 = happy forever
@Charlie-zj3hw
@Charlie-zj3hw 5 жыл бұрын
love my Schitt stack
@antonhelsgaun
@antonhelsgaun 5 жыл бұрын
Hd600 are boring
@RayLovesCars
@RayLovesCars 4 жыл бұрын
I honestly came here because I’m having issues with my current audio setup, I’m using “well aged” logitech speakers from my pc to my desk, then the headphone jack on one of the speakers to power my speakers So I think I’m just going to get a DAC because these speakers cause a lot of crackling in higher volumes
@MoosePhorus
@MoosePhorus 8 жыл бұрын
Maybe headphones are different but in house and cars, speakers and subwoofers run louder at a lower ohm (impedance) so a subwoofer running at 1 ohm will be way louder but require more watts than a subwoofer running at 4 or 8 ohm. Same for speakers. Ohm is the amount of resistance so a lower ohm has a better flow of current.
@Francomatas
@Francomatas 8 жыл бұрын
Yes but louder =/= better sound quality
@MoosePhorus
@MoosePhorus 8 жыл бұрын
+Franco Matas actually no, if you have a speaker rated for high power, as long as you have an amp that can send significant power(rated power or more) then is will sound no different in quality. But quality can very from the manufacturing. If its made cheap (ex: plant audio, boss or kicker) then it will sound like shit. But if you get quality equipment (ex: sundown audio) then you don't lose quality over loudness.
@saturnGEEK
@saturnGEEK 8 жыл бұрын
Any speaker has a limitation on volume. Push any speaker too much & they will not be able to produce a good tone. Too little can result in the same thing. Higher quality speakers only increase the optimal performance range. That's it. Majority don't care anyway.
@protoman247
@protoman247 8 жыл бұрын
DAC: Scarlett 2i2 Amp: Schiit Magni 2 Headphones: Sennheiser HD 598se and HD 558 Mic: Modmic 4.0
@BeatzPlay
@BeatzPlay 8 жыл бұрын
DAC: Scarlett 18i20 Amp: none Headphones: AKG 712 Pro Mic: Rode NT2-A have heard of Schiit multiple times now, is their stuff good?
@BonjourMonsieurStig
@BonjourMonsieurStig 8 жыл бұрын
I also have the 2i2, would recommend. It's a great interface
@nageorgiou2
@nageorgiou2 8 жыл бұрын
Amp + Dac: Fiio E18 Kunlun Headphone: AKG Q701 Mic: Blue Snowball My "Budget King"
@nageorgiou2
@nageorgiou2 8 жыл бұрын
+BeatzPlay Some of it is, just do your research. For example, NEVER get the first gen Vali, it sucked. The Vali 2 was a major improvement
@Ozzkuu
@Ozzkuu 8 жыл бұрын
DAC: Schiit Modi 2 Amp: Schiit Magni 2 Headphones: Hifiman HE-400i Mic: Modmic 4.0 IMHO there is no reason not to use external dac and amp, whether or not you are an audiophile, listening your components chirp is just annoying
@ZEYDYTUBE
@ZEYDYTUBE 6 жыл бұрын
My Logitech G633 states it is 5000ohms. Help.
@somnia3423
@somnia3423 6 жыл бұрын
39 Ohm thats the actuall number
@xray111xxx
@xray111xxx 8 жыл бұрын
Reactive impedance needs a high current, and voltage swing headphone amp. I use the Schiit Magni 2 Uber. It works great.
@invertedv12powerhouse77
@invertedv12powerhouse77 8 жыл бұрын
I haven't checked the sound quality on the MSI z170a gaming m5 mobo
@andrewskaterrr
@andrewskaterrr 8 жыл бұрын
reposting for you I've had to temporarily move my pc and don't have my dac hooked up. My Asus Z97-AR's DAC is TERRIBLE. If I play Bad Bitches by Snow tha Product, the distortion is INSANE, it also doesn't get nearly as loud as my dac. Also my iPhone 4s, 5s, and 5se all had better DACs than the motherboard, louder and cleaner. I use Audio Technica M50Xs 38ohms www.audio-technica.com/cms/headphones/99aff89488ddd6b1/ The DAC I use is the Radio Shack Optical-to-RCA converter. The sound stage improvement was very noticeable as well. I honestly didn't expect much and I only bought it because my 1000w Gold Xcilo psu had some video display induced noise and there was literally no way to get away from it except with optical (light not electricity). It also supports 192khz/24bit which was mandatory for me with low THD%. The RS DAC is this but re-branded I believe. www.amazon.com/Digital-Optical-Analog-Converter-Adapter/dp/B003OND0N4/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1471393213&sr=8-6&keywords=192khz+dac I did find another version which is cheaper and has a headphone jack as well www.amazon.com/Digital-Analog-Converter-Optical-Toslink/dp/B005K2TXMO/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1471393213&sr=8-3&keywords=192khz+dac I HIGHLY recommend at least getting one of these cheap DACs
@thegatesoflogicx3069
@thegatesoflogicx3069 8 жыл бұрын
Not certain what chip the z97-AR uses, but most Z170 boards use the ALC1150 DAC chip, which I've heard is substantially better than the models commonly used in the z97 boards. It's still far better to use a DAC+Amp.
@andrewskaterrr
@andrewskaterrr 8 жыл бұрын
TheGatesofLogic x ALC892
@taiefmiah
@taiefmiah 8 жыл бұрын
+TheGatesofLogic x the audio isolation matters so much more than just the codec
@FIGHTTHECABLE
@FIGHTTHECABLE 8 жыл бұрын
Have you checked the Gigabyte z170x Gaming G1? They use a way better DAC chip from Creative.
@illustriouschin
@illustriouschin 8 жыл бұрын
I got all the fancy headphone shit but it's just too much of a pain in the ass to plug in all the boxes and wait for the headphones to warm up.
@twitchster77
@twitchster77 3 жыл бұрын
I have zero idea what he just said.
@Youngsta0
@Youngsta0 8 жыл бұрын
The FR (Frequency Graph) of Apples EarPods are actually quite good, however their max (sensitivity/power handling) along with soundstage could sway some to "upgrade"
@Kintah
@Kintah 8 жыл бұрын
0:53 basically like beats...
@Mandy-vd7yu
@Mandy-vd7yu 4 жыл бұрын
I agree. they built cheap, and it broke easily, garbage.
@jonnathan780
@jonnathan780 8 жыл бұрын
Tube amp squad where u at?
@linusesh
@linusesh 5 жыл бұрын
Trum p bruh haha 2 years and nobody
@RAGNES7
@RAGNES7 5 жыл бұрын
Non-existent
@mickael486
@mickael486 Жыл бұрын
So how do I or WHAT do I buy for a headphone amp that I can connect to my a/v receiver which provides all the music, movies, and games that I listen to? THAT'S the million dollar question.
@richardbottom9843
@richardbottom9843 8 жыл бұрын
Luke that T-shirt is a crime against humanity
@eliplank6423
@eliplank6423 8 жыл бұрын
A useful episode !!!!!
@slayerwasco
@slayerwasco 8 жыл бұрын
Proper color correction has been achieved. nice job
@lcs_crr
@lcs_crr 8 жыл бұрын
M-50x don't need amps?
@taiefmiah
@taiefmiah 8 жыл бұрын
no
@nextlifeonearth
@nextlifeonearth 8 жыл бұрын
If you don't do monitoring, don't get the M50s. They sound as boring as cans can get, but with more bass and no soundstage. I don't get their popularity.
@taiefmiah
@taiefmiah 8 жыл бұрын
CapnTates exactly. No imaging too
@nextlifeonearth
@nextlifeonearth 8 жыл бұрын
taief miah And they're really uncomfortable for their price.
@jdh8138
@jdh8138 8 жыл бұрын
+CapnTates I think the hype was around the older M50s, because they have more bass I think? I have a pair of the slightly newer ones and wouldn't recommend them for gaming because they aren't very good for directional audio. Music is better with a slight bass EQ boost (my opinion 😉)
@thearcheduck8746
@thearcheduck8746 4 жыл бұрын
This video makes it sound too complex, it really isnt. Just look up amp or dac reviews and you'll be fine, I know I'm a bit late, but buying a schiit stack is a cheap way to go, or for more expensive options, any THX amp works fine. Sensitivity is also more important than ohms also, there are 20 ohm headphones harder to drive than 600 ohm ones.
@MMSCBF
@MMSCBF 8 жыл бұрын
_Now_ I know how the impedance rating in headphones are important to headphones. I know the basic function of resistors, but was never able to figure out how they applied to headphones.
@audiobrew
@audiobrew 5 жыл бұрын
*talks about impedance... shows a resistor - lol
@NathanFernandes
@NathanFernandes 8 жыл бұрын
So basically the M50x doesn't need a AMP as it has 38 ohms
@armLocalhost
@armLocalhost 8 жыл бұрын
Actually yes. I have 2 amps: Schiit Magni and Fiio X3II, and also I am listening right from my MacBook Pro. And I can tell you that there is almost no hearable difference.
@dackzy404
@dackzy404 8 жыл бұрын
Ohm doesn't freaking matter, it is all about how sensitive the headphones are, the only line up where ohm says something about how hard the headphones are to drive it the DT 770, 880 and 990, because everything else is the same.
@Typhoon792
@Typhoon792 8 жыл бұрын
The M50x's don't need an amp because whatever come into them, they force their signature onto them and don't have any real discernible differences from one thing to the next.
@MusicRoxz23
@MusicRoxz23 8 жыл бұрын
no but a dac is very helpful regardless, I'd still recommend a cheaper (
@armLocalhost
@armLocalhost 8 жыл бұрын
***** mein fuhrer is right. I haven't met any phone with a decent DAC and AMP. You will hear buzzing, ham, distorted frequency respond (low bass, low highs, etc). Get a portable DAC+AMP combo like FiiO's players, you can connect your to it using USB OTG cable on any Android > 5 and enjoy the experience.
@torrentails
@torrentails 8 жыл бұрын
That reflective logo on the shirt was incredibly distracting; please don't wear that shirt again. Otherwise an informative and entertaining video though.
@palabinash
@palabinash 8 жыл бұрын
Is there is any written companion of your videos?
@Garrettdx1988
@Garrettdx1988 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Luke from the past, still not clear, but I am going to keep coming back to this video as I'm researching what overpriced audio equipment I'm going to foolishly purchase lol
@mjlopez6286
@mjlopez6286 7 жыл бұрын
no clue what luke is saying but isn't he so pretty eye candy overload 😍😍
@OriginalCatfish42
@OriginalCatfish42 7 жыл бұрын
Jesus Lopez gay
@Anroth98
@Anroth98 6 жыл бұрын
You forgot to say #NoHomo
@nilsw8076
@nilsw8076 8 жыл бұрын
I run my 250 ohm cans from beyer dynemic with my smart phone just fine.
@ThePrinceFDarkness
@ThePrinceFDarkness 8 жыл бұрын
i would suggest trying to use it with an amp and see whether that makes a difference.
@FPSproductionsDff
@FPSproductionsDff 8 жыл бұрын
250 ohms and you run off of a smartphone. This hurts to read.
@nilsw8076
@nilsw8076 8 жыл бұрын
you guys dont understand what an amp is, it amplifies the signal, if it is loud enough, there is no reason to use it. of course I have to use my phone on maximum loudness. Also the headphones will not play like super loud but reasonalbe loud and draw quite some power, so usually i use my audio technica with lower ohms for travel cans. on the go an amp is not really an option. More often i use the Beyer Dynamics from my pc, which has dedicated output for 300 ohm headphones.
@FPSproductionsDff
@FPSproductionsDff 8 жыл бұрын
+Nils Wolny I'm saying that it hurts to run a 250 ohm set of cans on a phone. They would be much too quiet for me and likely would lack enough kick to satisfy me.
@nilsw8076
@nilsw8076 8 жыл бұрын
+FPSproductionsDff I was surprised as well how well it works on the phone
@geigster
@geigster 8 жыл бұрын
Very easy choice. Pick a Magni 2 and Modi 2 from Schiit. At least for any headphone in the entry point ($1000 and down). After $1000 (yes, $1000 is considered the end of entry point) you start to spend more on your DAC and AMP.
@MrNeocortex
@MrNeocortex 8 жыл бұрын
Got the Schiit stack for my DT990 250ohms. They're a great combo.
@geigster
@geigster 8 жыл бұрын
+ILikeHotCurrys Only thing I would change is from the 250 ohms to 600 since the Schiit Stack can handle it.
@MrNeocortex
@MrNeocortex 8 жыл бұрын
+geigster I had the DT990's before the stack. Had it been the other way round I'd have definitely gone with the 600ohm version. Hindsight is a wonderful thing.
@nictheperson6709
@nictheperson6709 8 жыл бұрын
Actually, under $1000, you don't need a DAC.
@rbrk161
@rbrk161 8 жыл бұрын
+Nicholas K. In some cases, maybe no. In some other cases, yeah fucking totally!
@c4CHIN
@c4CHIN 5 жыл бұрын
using EarStudio ES100 / iPhone XS Max (via BT) / Audeze Sine - love it!
@steffanan
@steffanan 8 жыл бұрын
headroom is awesome, they supplied the impedance graph, I only buy headphones from them
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