Hisense U8K VS TCL QM8 Which Is Better?

65" Hisense U8K VS 65" TCL QM8 Which Is Better?
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[@TechSteve]

Which One Would You Buy And Why? 🔹 Products On Videos Hisense Has dropped the prices. Hisense 55" U8K geni.us/eQY7 Hisense 65" U8K geni.us/fF8n Hisense 75" U8K geni.us/kzggZQa Hisense 85" U8K Coming Soon 65QM850G geni.us/3f1kkeH 75QM850G geni.us/A1NM 85QM850G geni.us/Y83iz8f 98QM850G geni.us/NuOe2N

[@R6ex]

TCL C845. Should be similar to the Q7. No C945 is being reported to arrive here in Singapore (SG). U8K, I suspect, will be the same downgraded crap from Hisense (SG) ... just like our downgraded local U8H we have here for 2022.

[@PacificOceanQuest]

Well you covered both Tv and the winner is QM8 lol better natural colors better peak brightness whiter whites , more dimming zones way more . upscaling at 240hz it’s got way lower input lag when video gaming . features are pretty sick you can put the target icon in the middle of the screen it’s got FPS mode which I really like the list goes on and on and on lol I think that’s enough good reasons to buy the QM8 . but I think the U8H is a beautiful tv still because I had it for two weeks, and I got to use it for gaming and for movies .it did quite well in both areas . But I do believe the QM8 is a better TV overall but I never got to use the U8K but it’s stats are way below the QM8 and I watched your video on both

[@PacificOceanQuest]

Can you please do a input lag test for both these TVs side-by-side QM8 vs U8K I want to see how they do against each other for gaming the lowest input lag is really important to us gamers

[@TechSteve]

@PacificOceanQuest I made full videos on both models

[@matthewbranham-mdh-2870]

That TCL looks awesome, but I am still hesitating to buy it. Right now, I can get an open box LG C2-83 inch tv for 2700. The TCL 85 inch is 2500 at Best Buy. What are your thoughts.

[@DarkKnight-gw4gw]

Great comparison! I’d almost definitely say QM8 for movies and shows, U8K for gaming, but not having local dimming control or a ATSC 3.0 tuner is just so lame. It still amazing to me how no TV has it all. Every TV is missing one or two things that another one has. If Samsung got Dolby Vision they would take the market. If Sony got good with gaming and lowered their prices a bit they would take the market. LG has come as close as you can get for having it all for performance and value but only IF you’re going OLED, and would be even better if they moved off of that outdated remote.

[@AltimaNEO]

Don't forget Sonys heavy blooming

[@cheerbeerification]

The TCL has a fatal flaw, cannot display 4k 120Hz 4:4:4 chroma. TCL used last years processor, and nothing they can do in firmware will fix this.

[@DarkKnight-gw4gw]

@@AltimaNEO not the X95L. Getting amazing reviews but much more expensive. I guess you get what you pay for.

[@jasonhurdlow6607]

@cheerbeerification Where did you find this info? Was thinking about getting one this year, but I want to connect my PC to at full 4:4:4 at 144hz. Had a U7 briefly (last years model) and it had issues with PC input (and audio sync issues), so leaning away from Hisense because of that.

[@azysrael1111]

I purchased the QM8 last week and have been following you on your comparisons against the QM8 and I am satisfied with my decision, I did purchase the U8H for my bedroom and the 75in QM8 for living room. After seeing this video I am satisfied with my purchases Thanks Steve

[@SaadSoCal]

Since you have both, which are you liking more?

[@azysrael1111]

@@SaadSoCal QM8 the picture quality is nice They’re both great Hisense is definitely brighter out the box

[@azysrael1111]

I’m having a hard time connecting my surround sound to the tV bluetooth Only negative for me…QM8

[@SaadSoCal]

@@azysrael1111 it sucks that you're having problems connecting the QM8 to the surround! Have you reached out to TCL yet? Also overall, if you had the choice to pick only one, would you say you'd pick Hisense? (purely based on picture quality). Which of the two do you PERSONALLY like more?

[@TechSteve]

@azysrael1111 Bluetooth overall is terrible for audio, use HDMI eARC

[@j-robertdrouin4871]

I bought a Hisense U8K 75" TV about 2 weeks ago. Last week, the TV received an update that took about 30 minutes to load and install. On my 3 previous TVs, updates took between 2 and 5 minutes. Towards the end of the update on the Hisense, we were asked to close it and open it again to complete the update. After this huge update, I noticed that the TV had a better picture and more localized sound. I really like this TV. It's easy to set up. I suggest you wait for this update before testing the U8K. It would give future and current users a better idea of the quality of this TV. Thank you for your hard work! ! !

[@TechSteve]

I updated every TV when I get them, companies use these videos to tweak the software even more , so updates are a constant process

[@kcstereo]

Wow Steve!!! You have been pumping out the videos!! Keep up the good work!! Very useful videos for the consumers to make the choices in such a difficult market.

[@TechSteve]

I appreciate it brother

[@kcstereo]

@@TechSteve I'm a Samsung guy but I'm leaning towards the new TCL series. Really impressed, a lot of features and seems friendly enough for the average consumer

[@benbarlow6547]

Thank you very much for doing this comparison! Previously, I was set on going with the Hisense U8K. However, after seeing the picture quality of the two next to each other... I've changed my mind. I'm going with the TCL

[@Korey72590]

Same! My qm8 comes tomorrow yay

[@user-kf4bw1dk1t]

the hisense looked dim and blurry while the tcl looked crisp and sharp and vibrant

[@mikegeezy9847]

@@user-kf4bw1dk1t agreed. However I think that lends to what he said about the tcl being more automated. As soon as he played with Hisense, it looked a lot better(than it originally did) I think the Hisense needs to be tweaked more to the environment to get the best image.

[@SFBenjaminK]

forsuree getting the 85 inch on that TCL , BUT gonna wait till blk Friday , i bet i can get that under $2 grand like about 17 or $1800 & that a f*n steal ...what they says better wait then sorry! i bought last blk Friday hisen 75U8H and absolutely LOVIN it , this year looks like on U8K is dimmer for some reason NOT that BRIGHT like U8H is, o well this year TCL MQ8 is winner, This U8K is VERY CLOSE TO SAME PIC compare TO SONY X90L

[@kcstereo]

Nice comparison Steve!! This is what the consumers need need to see!!

[@TechSteve]

I appreciate it brother, it was a tough one to film but i have to transparent with you guys

[@Revanxbone]

Man i was more interested in the qm8 before this, but the settings and the sound system of the hisense is really selling me. Thank you for the great comparison. Earned my subscription

[@TechSteve]

You're welcome

[@TheMachine716]

Great comparison. I want to point out a few things though. The TCL’s dimming zones are controlled by the local contrast setting which you will find under the brightness settings. If you want to have access to all the settings while gaming on the TCL you will have to turn off gaming mode. You will still have access to HDR, VRR and ALLM and the picture mode won’t be stuck on gaming mode you can change it to whatever you like.

[@TechSteve]

It’s not obvious so if I’m confused just imagine

[@3DavidA12]

So what does gaming mode add? Is the latency better there then?

[@TheMachine716]

@@3DavidA12Gaming mode is for better latency so it’s best used for 1st person shooters or games that require fast inputs. However the difference when gaming mode is on vs when it’s off it’s not very different. If you want better latency and faster response times get a Pc. If you can’t afford a pc get a monitor and connect your ps5/Xbox series x or s to that monitor. Make sure the monitor supports 120 hertz. If you’re hoping to become a god playing Cod on a 65 inch tv it’s not going to happen. TVs usually have more latency and slower response times than PCs/monitors. I use this Tv for movies, playing single player games and KZbin. If I want to have the best experience playing 1st person shooters or games where you need to think fast. I pull out the monitor 😈😈

[@vKingLouie]

Not true if you turn game master on and click quick settings button (3 horizontal line button) picture settings is right there and brightness tab has everything including local contrast

[@user-po4gp5yp6l]

QM 8 TCL для других стран как называется,внешне на с935 не похож,там полоска динамиков онкио в нижней части ТВ,а на этом нет

[@Digeeedad]

I’ve been pouring over KZbin TV reviews this week and have to say I like yours best! Thoroughly informative and spoken in a way that even viewers new to todays TVs can understand. Great work, thanks! I’ve seen several reviewers indicate that their TCL developed an area of black lines, on the bottom of the right screen. Your reviews have convinced me that I still want a 65 inch qm8.Thanks again!

[@TechSteve]

You’re welcome but Hisense did drop the price to $1099 🤩

[@johnhalmos9014]

Great video as usual, tough choice between the two. I like that the Hisense has 3.0 tuner for over the air and that you have more control over the settings. Thank you for the comparison.

[@ericbehrens205]

Nicely done Steve.Thanks a bunch for all the hard work! Fun to see affordable options looking so good! Possibly U8k vs U8h next?

[@TechSteve]

Anything is possible on this channel

[@michaelzoran]

@@TechSteve A comparison between the U8K and U8H is not even necessary. The reason why is because the U8H launched for the good price of $1,599 and was often on sale for $1,499. Now the U8H is on sale for $1,399. The U8K is selling for the ABSURD price of $2,299. That is WAYYY OVERPRICED and FARRR TOO EXPENSIVE!!!

[@TechSteve]

@michaelzoran Michael these are your thoughts not for everyone, Hisense hasn’t even released the real prices just “ suggested retail price” if you actually look it the U8H also has a higher “suggested retail price” just be patient brother and wait until we see stock and the actual prices on ones you can purchase

[@TechSteve]

I made the video kzbin.info/www/bejne/h6XYdmd3aNFgqrM

[@Noneya5555]

I checked out your review and comparison videos of the Hisense U8K, and I’m impressed. Your assessments are very detailed and informative. I especially appreciated your take on the gaming features, something that a lot of reviewers gloss over, or ignore altogether. I’m looking for a replacement for my 55” TCL R646, which I use as a pc monitor, as well as tv viewing. I really wish that TCL had made a 55” version of the QM8. So it looks as if the U8K may be my choice, especially as it has much better gaming features, and a lot more local dimming zones. Btw, subbed! 👍🏾

[@TechSteve]

Thanks for the awesome feedback

[@34dawgsgo]

Same as you. 55 or smaller will fit my space only. Looks like the U8K. Thanks.

[@iamjoemomma2]

Great comparison! Thanks for this, was anxiously waiting for you to do this matchup. I think I'll go with the QM8 but they are both so well matched tbh. Could go with either and be happy for most people.

[@lordtardar4639]

I love your accent. I just love it. It's a 10-bit, VRR-enabled, 120hz no blooming accent in TV terms.

[@Rberg1105]

I went with the QM8 and I love it. Having a ps5, Xbox and soundbar, the dedicated earc port was a necessity for me.

[@BishopBrooks614]

Man! this actually is a pretty close call... In my opinion the TCL edges out the U8K this year in picture quality overall, BUT I like having control over my settings and that's what makes it tuff 🤷‍♂️ If I had to choose one though uggghhh idk 😂

[@SFBenjaminK]

IS VERY HARD to choice between these 2, i bought 75U8H last year & absolutely LOOOVIN it, wanna get 85 inch of Hinsens U8K this year , Bought now i'm confuse , BUT i like that darker richer color tones on Hisense, like that grass filed u showed .is very hard between 2 ...but getting one on blk Friday to get the BEST LOW price in either one , so have plenty time to choice thanks✌✌

[@Apophis-en9pi]

I got the U8K because I wanted a 55". Got it brand new for $675 and I have zero regrets.

[@raminator157]

Steve, I’ve gotta say I’ve been watching your reviews for awhile now and you do a fantastic job. I have seen other reviews on KZbin and yours by far are top notch. Love your format and the way you explain things. Keep up the good work.

[@TechSteve]

Thank you so much

[@Budgeman83030]

I watched this video several times and I’m still no closer to picking out a new tv because to me, they both look good. The TCL has a slight edge on picture but the Hisense has the best sound. If only there was a way to combine both sets into one

[@rct8884]

Thanks Tech Steve for spending time on the audio which is usually past over in other reviews.

[@TechSteve]

You’re welcome

[@MajorHattery]

Thanks for putting this video together, it is super informative. Doing my research now looking for a new TV, and this video cleared some things up for me with these two TVs.

[@TechSteve]

👍🏽

[@TXSTYLE750]

Excellent Review sir! I was actually out looking for a 65" TV for my Bar/Lounge area of my home. My criteria: Overall solid PQ, mostly in a darker environment, although there are windows in there. Sound Quality was a BIG factor as I do not want to use a soundbar as I am hanging it and want to limit extra mounting and additional peripherals and Best Bang for my Buck. Initially a VERY helpful and knowledgeable salesman at Best Buy (who ironically is from Japan and Sony certified), when I gave him my criteria, showed me the TCL. It was very impressive! In fact, I was prepared to buy it. Unfortunately they had none new in box for sale. Not even for ordering online. A testimony to the popularity of this TV. I need the TV now for a big NEW YEARS EVE party we are hosting at my home. So at the latest, would be 2 days from now. He then said, you know what, we have a really nice Hisense that is super comparable. Although they were not side by side, when I watched content on the U8K, my eyes were just as impressed and I have really good vision without need for glasses. Although we did not test out the sound quality, on paper, the U8K clearly wins in this important area for me. Plus, it was new in the box ready to go. So I bought it for $900 (same price as the QM8). I also read a detailed review on RTINGS that I have trusted for many years. They pointed out that the U8K was better out of the box without calibration. That is VERY appealing to me as well. They also have it edging out the TCL very slightly. Splitting hairs really. I do know a thing or two about TV.s and great PQ as I currently own a Sony BRAVIA XR X95K and a Epson 5050UB in my Home Theater showing on a 135" Silver Screen,

[@Trav83]

That picture on the QM8 just smoked the Hisense

[@Rony-L]

Not really. You need to look at it in the real world. What I’m seeing here, is not what I saw at the store.

[@BunkMasterFlex77]

It looks brighter but the colors were better on the Hisense

[@elchappo1320]

He paid by TCL

[@Trav83]

@@Rony-L umm what store has Hisense

[@TechSteve]

Lol, maybe someone has it on display 🌎🌍🌏

[@LXTyler]

Best video out there, very very detailed. Going with the QM8; thank you.

[@Liberates]

Thank you for this wonderful comparison. I'll definitely get the QM8.

[@mikhanch1228]

Just mounted my 75 inch TCL QM8 to my wall. Took me all day, but it's AMAZING!

[@MM-Official]

Great work Steve, QM8 the best lcd value this year

[@michaelzoran]

TechSteve, at 2:58 you do an excellent demonstration that shows the TCL QM8 has excellent smoothness with "Motion" that apparently has virtually no Stuttering or Juddering. However, the "Motion" test clearly shows problems with the Hisense U8K. The problems with "Stuttering" when watching Blu-ray movies at 24 frames per second were ultimately the reason I did not buy the U8H in 2022. Reviews have said the U8K has superior "Processing," especially when playing low-bitrate problems and reducing "Posterization." The "Posterization" was a severe problem with the U8H, and comparisons show the "Posterization" is actually an area the U8K is noticeably superior to the QM8. But, as far as the 1080p Blu-ray movies running at 24 frames per second, do you know if the U8K and QM8 experience these problems with "Stuttering" and "Juddering"? In one of your reviews and comparison, you mentioned a Sony TV sold at a similar price has fewer problems with "Stuttering" than these TVs. This isn't a surprise, considering it was Sony that came up with the idea of movies running at 24 frames per second. But when I looked up the Sony TV you mentioned, the Sony TV has "Full Array" lighting; however, the Sony TV did not have the more advanced "Mini-LED" Lighting.

[@ricome169]

even though sony x90L is not mini led it is still a better all around tv.

[@michaelzoran]

@@ricome169, no it isn't. I've personally seen both on display right next to each other at Best Buy. The blacks of the U8K and QM8 are far superior to the X90L. The U8K and QM8 also get far brighter than the X90L. The QM8 has the most color accuracy out of the box. However, the U8K has by far the most manual adjustment settings, which means if you take the time to set things up properly you do in fact get the best color accuracy of all three TV sets. The 75" version of the U8K is also fundamentally different from all of them. The 75" U8K has an IPS monitor - which gives it excellent viewing angles. The Sony X90L and TCL QM8 (and the U8K 65" and 55") use VA panels and have poor viewing angles. The 75" U8K uses a combination of Mini-LED and IPS, which gives it both excellent blacks and excellent viewing angles.

[@FitKore]

Ty for the review ! I’m leaning qm8 but am also considering the q7 and want a comparison of these two. Important things for me are affordability, 120hz, hdr and very good brightness and blacks without being oled. I’ve always liked TCL over the years and think I’m going to stick with them. I’m replacing a 6-7 year old Sony 75” that I bought used for $2500 about 5 years ago. I like the value one can get right now but don’t want to overdo the spend which puts me between q7 and qm8. This is a streaming workhorse with a little Xbox series x play. Also I’m hooked into a cheap Sony STR-DH590 receiver 5.1 with a 3.1 setup using KEF left center and right and a klipsch sub. Anyway thanks for the review!!

[@SFBenjaminK]

just wait to blk Friday like i am, wanna get 85 inch that TCL under $2 grand & thats f*n steal

[@michaelwyckoff7593]

Excellent review of both tv's. Steve. I like the TCL better myself. I have both TCL and Hisense tvs and I favor TCL more.

[@ReesesCupsAreGood]

Which one is better for movie watching?

[@Animejook]

the qm8 is the clear winner. mainly cuz of the centralized stand and the brightness in picture quality. like hisense get real, the centralized stand is more premium and u can fit it on any sized desk. little things like this counts

[@jasonswitzer1748]

Hey man. I just wanted to say I really appreciated your review. You broke down all the features pretty quickly and gave a very good, fair comparison. I’ll keep watching your channel. Nice work.

[@TechSteve]

Thanks Jason, I appreciate ya 👍🏽

[@jimronchetto8592]

That was a great comparison of two great TVs. I pick the TCL QM8. New subscriber! Thanks Tech Steve!

[@TechSteve]

Welcome

[@Jeremytallman]

Thanks Steve. Great comparison video. I am thinking I may have to have eyes on both TVs eventually. 👍

[@TechSteve]

Both are great

[@CasaUwU]

Tech Steve is an industry staple 👏👏

[@Barbarapape]

Having watched this comparison in May 2024 due to both models now been on offer as the new version arrive for me the TCL would be better for the content that i watch. I never play games and i have a good seperates system for Dolby Atmos and DTS. The issue i have with Hisense is that the versions sold here in the UK are not the same spec as the USA ones. The major difference is the o/s that they use, we get their own Vidaa instead of Android / Google and this makes the Hisense a no go, you cant add or remove apps as you can with Google. Thankfully TCL stick with Google so this swings it for me. Thanks for the best comparison that i have found on KZbin.

[@Avidreader2007]

Really helpful review. Loving that TCL picture.

[@PANDORA3.0]

I think the hisense has a perfect balance of pricing with the features ,the tcl does have better picture quality because of that contrast but to me that wont be enough to attract me. Brighter doesnt always mean better.

[@catatonicgalaxy1471]

I've been waiting for this Hisense TV for a little while... Looks like the TCL is the new number one this year... I'm pretty sure it will outperform the Samsung and Sony's. AT a much lower cost. TCL qm8 will be my next TV. I currently have the Samsung qN95B

[@cliffvictoria3863]

TCL has a better picture in the side by sides almost every time. I recently purchased the TCL when Amazon had a short price drop to $901. Very happy with it so far. Waiting for a TCL QM8 calibration video for normal consumers. There isn't a good one out there yet.

[@paulcarlin5181]

901 for what size? 65?

[@donkey3187]

When I saw both tvs on display at Best Buy today, the Hisense picture and sound were both far more impressive....and I went in expecting to like the TLC better.

[@cliffvictoria3863]

@@donkey3187 I couldn't find them together in a store. That's interesting. After amateur tuning the TCL, I am blown away by the picture with HD content. It's good but not great at upscaling.

[@Miguel85NYC]

​@@paulcarlin5181yeah for 65inch

[@inceptionsd]

TCL has got to be using a VA panel, no IPS would be able go provide that much contrast and brightness without showing massive amounts of glow and blooming.

[@terryxperry]

The qm8 stand is great . U can get away with small home entertainment until. The qm8 look better. But i think the hisense got better features and more control of them. The hisense seems to have better sound. Both tvs are very close. It comes down to what u desire in your overall experience. Both have there pro's and issues. hisense needs give u a smaller stand like the tcl and give u more 2.1 hdmi ports. The tcl need to give u more control. And both need to fix there tone mapping, motion handling . They will hurting the big tv's making bad.

[@mustangthearpy]

Thank you Steve!!!! Maybe many of us can tweet TCL to do a software patch that would give their users full control of the TV settings. I am happy that my Best Buy purchase of the TCL 65QMA will be delivered this Saturday!

[@TechSteve]

They had Google TV issues years ago but they are working out the kinks

[@mainsource8030]

unfortunately the 85 inch hisense also uses an ips panel, you can tell by the native contrast of the 75 inch -2000:1 vs the native of the 65 inch 4500:1. the native 85 inch is 2000:1 so there you have it

[@TechSteve]

Only in the uk models so far www.displayspecifications.com/en/model/baf43329

[@euphorichaggis8486]

My son has last years TCL C835 & my friend has the 8K TCL X925 from 2 years ago & they both have full access to local dimming control off, low, medium & high. I am sure the 2023 range will too. If VRR & ALLM mode is on inside tv then you won't see local dimming options so temp turn them off & you'll suddenly have access to them. Your TCL is probably still in ALLM & VRR Game mode. Also, in audio there should be a Dynamic Sound option, turn it on and the TV comes to life. (The other sound options don't come close)

[@michaelkuhner1955]

Yeah honestly this felt like a really haphazard, and a bit disappointing. I don’t think the tcl was calibrated at the time of filming, atleast the camera did not make it look so, and the little things like having the tv in one of the worst audio settings when comparing audio, or not mentioning that if you don’t use game mode you magically have all of the settings at your fingertip (including vrr STILL and allm.

[@TechSteve]

@michaelkuhner1955 lol, it’s a recording. Video only give you a general idea. If it help I’m using a Sony fx3 camera in HLG converter to rec. 709 for you guys to see.

[@euphorichaggis8486]

Actually, I stand corrected my son who owns a TCL said its because of ALLM being on which makes you not see the full local dimming features showing up on the TCL QM8 TV. Turn ALLM and VRR off inside the TV and you will suddenly see the full features of local dimming (off, low, medium, and high). Put the TV into movie picture mode first and choose to apply to all inputs after you choose what you want then and only then turn back on ALLM & VRR inside TV menu. Turn audio into dynamic for the best audio. Also you can tweak the sub levels too inside the TCL, also surround and treble etc. Hope this helps. Have a look and report back to all of us.

[@zuti071]

Digital trends and guy with gloves can take a few notes from you while they waiting for free samples with their wallets close and hands in pockets. Respect Steve!!! You deserve much more subscribers and YT ravenue since you really invested so much effort and MONEY on huge amount of these TV's while other youtubers milking their videos publishing some content that we all can find on internet while they waitnig...next free sample!

[@TechSteve]

Lol, I know both of them and they are great guys. I appreciate the kind words, just doing things my way over here. Subscriber are great but helping people is more important to me, that’s why I respond to most comments where other avoid.

[@zuti071]

@@TechSteve I know that you know them since i'm subscribed to at least 10 channels like this. I think i have good idea who is who Steve.

[@TechSteve]

I’m me, lol

[@robertvurno6297]

Always good stuff on the channel been watching all week keep the videos going the comparison content is great everyone like a good head to head comparison thanks

[@TechSteve]

I appreciate it 👍🏽

[@derekcole1858]

You should have turned brightness up on Hisense the same as tcl.....

[@biggerchris20]

Never thought TCL would make a tv so nice. Picture looks great. But I RARELY use a bright picture in my dark tomb of a room. Plus the sound is not even close. I would probably go with the Hisense for my needs, but REALLY need to see them in person. The only thing you left out of your review is projected quality. Do they have a track record of reliability? Pretty means nothing if they are buggy or in the trash in two years but good review overall 👍

[@jadedgpu]

Awesome video. 🔥👍 Can't wait to get my hands on a U8k. The TCL looks good too, but the Xbox looks a little bit better on the Hisense imo. Also, it seems, I wouldn't be needing a soundbar with the U8k as well. 🎶👍

[@Kaohteeko]

This is the review I have been waiting for a while! Thank you for work and content. Very detailed and informative reviews. I personally like the Picture quality of the TCL QM8 over U8K but I agree with your assessment; they are both very impressive but are designed for different end users. IMO, QM8 is more for Movies, HDR/Dobly Vision Content as the U8K is aiming to be the best miniLED gaming TV without compromising. Which inadvertently also targets the gaming monitor community. I own the 65U8G in the living room, the TCL 55R646 for the bedroom, and 48LGC3 evo for my office/game room, I’m thinking I can hold off for next year’s competition to upgrade to a 75” for the living room! I hope your channel grows exponentially.

[@josephrivera8463]

H9g and U8H fan here… but wow! Tcl looks great, as I watch the review on my OLED phone. Haha. Tcl is just so bad with reliability, be sure to use a credit card which will double the warranty.

[@samkhan3999]

I think picture quality is amazing TCL 👍

[@marcsondlucce]

Stellar work as usual!

[@TechSteve]

It was a emotional video but I think I handled it ok. Lol

[@AndNowThis..]

Great video. I seriously want them both! One for my bedroom and one for my living room. Lol. Which one handles blooming better? When “upscaling” which one makes the image look smoother?

[@marian8757]

I noticed that near the end of your video, from the 12:35 mark and on, your camera's Bokeh effect really made the Hisense look bad because of the positioning and where you were standing. It focused on you and had the Hisense blurred out for the rest of the video. At first, I thought something was wrong with the Hisense, and then I noticed that when you moved your hand near the Hisense, it cleared up.

[@metalcrip89]

Great work Steve! I love having complete control over my TV and I love having a loud sound system so the Hisense would definitely be right up my alley and while yes, the TCL might have a 10-bit panel and might be brighter. I personally think that Hisense has overall better picture, but that's my opinion I'm sure. Everyone's will differ. Thanks so much for this comparison! Now to wait to see how cheap the U8K gets and to wonder if it's a worthy upgrade over my 65-in 2021 Hisense U8G ?

[@hogues71]

Hello fellow Steve… do you think the 75” IPS-ADS panel will perform significantly different than the 65” VA panel U8K panel that you tested in a separate video and compared to the qm8 in this video?

[@Abubaker42]

Really liked that you display technology VA IPS for all sizes at the beginning and the technical details at first that was really good intro. I was left wondering the significance of 10 bit panel over 8 bit FRC.

[@TechSteve]

Benq wrote a great article www.benq.com/en-us/knowledge-center/knowledge/10-bit-vs-8-bit-frc-monitor-color-difference.html

[@titusjoseph865]

Response to 1:03 to 1:09 - TCL panels are made by its own subsidiary CSOT (Schenzhen China Star Optoelectronics Technology Co. ltd). It uses its own AIPQ 3.0 processor with as per TCL has AI features…

[@nothumbs12gaming79]

Thanks for the great info on both of these t.v. s, it is appreciated

[@ricome169]

3.o next gen tips it for me on the hisense. Good ones cost around 200dollars. plus you have another box cluttering up.

[@MusicMovies67]

Hisense seems to give more picture detail, TCL crushes things in a dark picture

[@miamiblunts]

Excellent review Steve. You have a new subscriber 👍 Thank you

[@gaivoron]

TCL looks more punchy with the colors and definitely much brighter

[@scottamolinari]

This has to be hands down the best vs. video for these two models I've seen to date. And I've seen a few. I keep leaning toward the TCL. It's screen just seems to have more vibrance and depth. Sometimes it is over-saturated. But, I'm certain that can be tamed down in the settings.

[@danieldaniel8883]

Which TV has the best picture quality overall for HDR movies and HDR gaming? If am correct Gaming mode is better for latency for online shooting games but from what I understand Game mode cuts down on picture quality? I am not really a hardcore online gamer, I might play something like PUBG once in a while just for fun. I've been seeing the Hisense 55" on sale for 748... Only thing for me about the TCL doesn't come in 55" so I would have to get a 65" which I've been seeing on sale for 1,098.

[@devynnef]

I’m gonna wait a couple more weeks before deciding on one of these (or the 2022 versions). But I can’t see myself paying 1.2K (current discounts I’m seeing) for this TCL when the LG C2 is just a couple hundred more for an OLED w/ more features. I feel like they’ve gotten too close in price to better televisions and unless there’s a discount, you’d be better off going with a higher end TV.

[@edrosiak]

Hi Steve… great comparisons. Thank you..

[@TechSteve]

No problem

[@marcusturner5291]

Nice review keep up the good work Tech Steve

[@TechSteve]

I appreciate it bro 😎

[@mrc2165]

U8K has better image processing with lower bit rate content and gaming. QM8 has better image processing with high rate content. Kinda depends on what content is watched.

[@nigelpottinger901]

Thanks Steve TCL for me thanks to you u8k has better sound but TCL has better picture just need to buy a sound bar

[@FenixPajarito]

I've been using Oled tvs and I think it's time to switch to Mini Leds because there's Black Crush on OLEDs in scenes that have dark scenes. Like if you play horror games you're losing a lot of details with OLEDs yes blacks look black but other gray colors look black too.

[@jman3081]

The local dimming on the TCL is called local contrast

[@TechSteve]

Good to know

[@mboiko]

Great job Steve...great job!

[@TechSteve]

👍🏽

[@07slowbalt]

These leaves me scratching my head more than before i watched this head to head comparison lol. Tvs shine in their own respectives but for me it seems the tcl has just a bit more punch in colors. When the picture of the screws was playing i thought that showed better detail as well.

[@TechSteve]

The Hisense supports calman calibrated and the just dropped the price on the 65 to $1099 but both are great

[@BangSkeeet]

Wow, that Local Dimming HIGH on Hisense really propels it forward in Gaming Were both these TVs calibrated?

[@TechSteve]

I don’t calibrate TVs for video, I barely have enough time to even film them

[@Lukrative]

Oh yeah, TCL is back. My QM8 experience has been great so far. Blacks getting crushed occasionally has been the only critique, but the trade off there are some truly oled like deep blacks.

[@Lukrative]

Also, I want to say gamemaster you kind of skimmed over in the sense that the TCL is very good at automatically identifying best case scenarios. I'm the kind of person who prefers to use my Xbox Series X for everything- Gaming, TV and Movies. I really appreciate the TCL automatically switching viewing modes when it detects I'm gaming vs watching a movie, KZbin app or even when just hanging out in the Xbox dashboard. I've spent way too much damn time in the past trying to optimize my picture settings based on what I'm doing, and having to update my settings all over again when the TV gets an update. TCL just makes everything easy.

[@TechSteve]

@Lukrative I get it I’m a iPhone user

[@JV61]

thanks Steve.keep it coming. I'm waiting for your review of Sony XR x90L.

[@TechSteve]

Not doing that one as of now, I have plenty of work

[@34dawgsgo]

Thanks Steve. Very informative review. Have decided to return the A80K in favor of these two, Just not wowed and it's over double the price. Straight movie and sports watcher. Zero gamer so limited ports don't matter. Do use a Polk soundbar. Thank you.

[@pluvse]

Which tv did you end of getting?

[@34dawgsgo]

@@pluvse I wound up keeping the A80K due to not wanting to deal with the hassle of a return.

[@user-fg2vg8oi2b]

Thank you, I love you and follow you from Iraq 🇮🇶🧡

[@TechSteve]

I appreciate the love out there

[@honeybeetrading7424]

Excellent Video

[@miguelsalgado1316]

Great comparison, I think it would be nice to do a comparison with the U8H and U8K. I own the U8H and I love the picture quality as well as the price I bought if for. The only con that I can see is its motion, it stutters sometimes, but I got it on sale 75inch 1,399. So cant complain to much.

[@bunit8]

I think the Sony’s handle motions the best

[@Gurka9999]

I have no idea where you pulled 2300 zones for the 65" from. It's 1080 zones for the 65".

[@TechSteve]

They should update the website www.tcl.com/us/en/products/home-theater/qm8-class/65-class-4k-mini-led-qled-hdr-google-tv-65qm850g

[@stennex]

🙌🏾🔥🙌🏾. Great work, Steve.The TCL is still a good tv. But I think more gamers are going to get the Hisense tv. Especially console and pc gamers like myself.

[@TechSteve]

Exactly

[@jadedgpu]

Big truu.

[@jasonsadler8402]

If the price doesn't drop on the Hisense the TCL is gonna sell way better! You can currently get the QM8 85" for $100 more than the U8K 75"!

[@eddieevangelista6014]

Real gamers get OLED

[@TechSteve]

Not a fan unless you get qd-OLED or MLA

[@mass-1128]

The Hisense U8K has better image processing, low bitrate content, and low luminance HDR.

[@buschg7106]

The TCL looks better and has more inputs. I use a sound system so this my choice of the 2

[@shazboticon]

The number of local dimming zones you've stated for the 65" TCL may be incorrect. TCL doesn't specify how many each size TV has. They just say "up to" 2300, which depends on size. It stands to reason that the 65" has less than 2300 zones. According to rtings the 65" is believed to have 1080 local dimming zones. If that's true, then it's still more than the Hisense 1008 zones but not drastically.

[@JSprayaEntertainment]

U8K has its percs .. like sounds and control , but the QM8 cost most for a reason ... and some people mess up a great image tweeking too much loll

[@SamcoSimiyu]

Keep up the good work 👏👏👏

[@edbl5134]

Which one is better for movies, especially those in HDR? The TCL looked amazing!

[@deanwilliams433]

10 bit vs 8-bit+FRC is not something 99.999% of people can see. Rtings stopped comparing it as they could not see any difference. With that being said the QM8 is a better TV for most content and gaming. I would give Hisense a win in upscaling low quality content better. The QM8 also has the closest black and blooming control that makes it appear OLED like, not sure any other QLED tv matches it that regard that is under $5000. I like your review Steve, just did not want people to get confused.

[@TechSteve]

I use to think that way and I’m probably wrong. But I had a 8bit camera and now i film on a 10bit and it’s night in day. Maybe cameras are different

[@deanwilliams433]

@@TechSteve 8bit vs 10bit camera capture is very different to TV panels. 8-bit+FRC is essentially identical to 10-bit. 8-bit+FRC is much better than plain 8-bit. Try this test, use your camera to record some 10-bit colorful scenes and play it on a 8-bit+FRC and a 10-bit panel. unless you are 0.001% you will not notice anything different.

[@TechSteve]

At the end of the day it’s the same scenes with the same signal

[@deanwilliams433]

@@TechSteve sure, but confusing better (slightly oversaturated) colors on the QM8 to the 10-bit panel is not accurate.

[@TechSteve]

@deanwilliams433 i understand, I have so many projects pending that I can’t talk about, so general info is all I can give. Large companies has a crew to research everything but if i don’t create volume content I’ll have to shut down the channel. I’m 100% on my own

[@PGHJR002]

very, very GOOD VIDEO, WELL EXPLAINED

[@TheAETHER22]

Is the C845 the QM8 in Europe? I can't find it

[@moizkhan8057]

Your work has earned you s new sub. Keep up the good work. Would love to see s segment where you only focus on picture settings for each mode (hdr, dolby, sports, etc)

[@TechSteve]

Thanks for the suggestion but video like that gets very low views. I’m very focused on universal content

[@moizkhan8057]

@@TechSteve ahh, got it. Either way, whatever you are doing, is amazing. Keep it up bud :)

[@TechSteve]

I appreciate it brother

[@leanderzulu3494]

TCL is also an 8 bit FRC panel. The entire QM8 lineup is also VA

[@TechSteve]

Ok www.displayspecifications.com/en/model/f6e93391

[@billiot425olds]

The TCL is 10 bit

[@user-ji7tx2oy9y]

I think it's important to note that the 75", has an IPS panel. This would change the comparison because the qm8 has a VA panel at that size.

[@TechSteve]

www.displayspecifications.com/en

[@TechSteve]

@oman0231 you can google search but some companies don’t disclose information

[@sector7676]

Can you cast the image from a Samsung Galaxy phone to the TCL? I remember hearing that Samsung phones do not allow casting/mirroring unless it's a Samsung television...