Which MiniLED TV? 2024 TCL QM8 vs Hisense U8N vs 2023 QM8

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0:00 Best HDR TV under $1500
1:30 2023 QM8 was good but
2:49 Pricing & Competition
4:06 Sony X90L
5:22 OLED Comparison
6:43 TV Settings
10:49 Image Quality Compared
17:07 Winner & Conclusion
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[@stopthefomo]

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[@RedXIII382]

Do you think 65 in u8n will be under $1000 for amazon prime day or 4th of july sales?

[@user-ip9ss2bh3d]

You praised the U8k in three separate videos and then said in another video that you didn’t like it. Inconsistencies like this need to be explained if you want people to value your opinion and judgement.

[@damontroch4765]

U8K is trash 🗑

[@user-ip9ss2bh3d]

@@damontroch4765 just like your opinion

[@stevenhocking6407]

Fomo and Brian do this a lot. They contradict their own comments. I reckon they are paid to say certain things from big brands

[@damontroch4765]

​@@user-ip9ss2bh3d don't be butt hurt. Go look at any long-term reviews. Or just keep buying trash. 😂

[@user-ip9ss2bh3d]

@@damontroch4765 Maybe watch a couple of anger management videos on your A95l. I have a tv I’m happy with and I have a bunch of cash in my pocket. So if it only lasts 3 years instead of 5 or 6 I get my next upgrade that much sooner.

[@aaronbyers5213]

thanks for your thorough reviews! very helpful!

[@mickaelabarry8719]

Should I get the 85 inch Bravia 7 or 85 inch qm8 2024?

[@rosetzu_nagasawa]

just curious, what are you using to watch HDR movies? bluray player? but who sells bluray disc these days? all these very cool specs but I am trying to see how to get quality resource

[@stopthefomo]

WHICH WOULD YOU GET? 2023 TCL QM8 just dropped to $899 howl.me/cmkKKScn4xK 🛒2024 TCL QM8 howl.me/cmkqRqFp3B7 🛒2024 Hisense U8N howl.me/cmkq1f138CC

[@valentinionita4449]

too bad none of these are available in Europe

[@FenixPajarito]

Sorry Bravia 7 the TCL QM851 has taken your spot...

[@Forthepeople21]

WE CAN ANSWER THIS IF YOU ACTUALLY COMPARE MOTION AND UPSCALING AND PROCESS POWER. YOU NEVER COVER THESE AREAS AND ONLY COVER NITS AND CONTRAST. THOSE THINGS ARENT MOST IMPORTANT AS MOST OF US STILL STREAM SHOWS AND SPORTS

[@shondope]

Does the ‘24 qm8 do Dolby vision gaming at 120hz?

[@the-papaw]

You have many good videos, but I have a question that I have not seen answered before. How well do these hold up when powered on 24/7? In need of a quality budget TV that has little issue with that. The Hisense U8H lasted 13 months, but issues started right at 12 months. The repairman just just left today after he destroyed the screen (warranty repair thing) and left me without anything until Hisense gets back in touch with me. In market again now

[@philipmenne1693]

What a great review of the TV's I am considering this year! I am leaning most for the 2024 TCL 85QM851G, with 83-85 inch the size I am looking to buy for. You give great, comprehensive reviews that are honest and appealing!

[@armylrs2391]

You're stating that the QM8 is "a little brighter" than the S95D and G4, Give me a break, their brightness levels are not even comparable! Particularly when you consider brightness stability across all windows. I'll never understand why reviewers like yourself, virtually any reviewers for that matter, never talk about brightness stability and ABL. It is the complete Achilles heel of OLED tech. The difference between HDR on a mini LED or high quality QLED and OLED is so vast that it might as well be a different format altogether. I was a staunch OLED supporter until I saw HDR on a high end QLED. I could not believe how big of a difference it was, I felt like I was seeing HDR for the first time. I'll never go back.

[@cdragon88]

The irony of it all---FOMO literally tells you this is for daytime viewing in bright rooms. You are correct in saying that OLED drop offs in brightness are night and day---IF you are watching in a bright room setting. In a dark room setting and properly turned---the OLEDs have enough brightness to meet the requirements. You'd have to turn down the LED brightness TVs while maintaining brightness with OLED. But in this use case scenario, as provided by FOMO, no doubt, the brightness isn't even close.

[@armylrs2391]

@@cdragon88 You're completely wrong. Even in a dark room brightness stability is absolutely terrible. Go on rtings and look at virtually any OLED that you're interested in checking out. Look at the brightness scale and you will notice that it jumps around like crazy. The image brightness is completely unstable. This affects picture quality whether it's in a bright room or dark room, it is the very reason why OLED has to use so many processing tricks in order to display HDR. If you are watching HDR on an OLED, you are watching an attempt at HDR, not true HDR. Picture a scene in a movie where you exit a dark cave into the blinding sunlight, your eyes are squinting because of the contrast between the dark cave and bright sun that you just walked into. This is the kind of realism that HDR tries to express but virtually every single scene like this is lost on OLED because of ABL and terrible brightness stability. You simply do not experience it. What you experience is an extremely neutered version of the director's intent.

[@cdragon88]

@@armylrs2391 The irony of you and FOMO then. LOL. Most content is mastered for 100 nits. In a dark room, OLED easily hits that target. HDR is usually mastered for 1000 nits, which OLEDs can accomplish today at 10% windows and lower. ABL--you have the wrong definition of ABL. OLEDs do not have brightness stability issues. So to simplify in HDR content, you have SDR mastering 100 nits combined with HDR elements 1000 nits---in other words, OLED vs LED comes down to contrast ratio vs Peak brightness window size--in a dark room. Remember OLEDs can only reach 1000 nits in 10% windows and under for the most part.

[@armylrs2391]

@@cdragon88 You made my point for me- they can only hit it at a 10% window or below and that is just a select few OLED and QD-OLED. The vast majority of OLED still top out at under 1000nits. What happens after 10%? What happens at 100%? Let me tell you- Even the best OLED has to offer cannot hit 300nits full field brightness. 90% of OLED cannot even hit a measly 200 nits fulfilled brightness at 100% window. So let's go back to my example; Your exiting a dark cave into the bright sunny day (or virtually any scene like this in HDR, and they happen often) ABL will kick in and your OLED will dim down to 200 nits and the full intent of the scene is lost. On QLED and mini LED it is not. . . The difference is night and day! Like I said if you own an OLED, you have never experienced HDR. The difference is so vast. For me the realization was when I watched top gun Maverick on my LG G3 and then happened to see it on my friend's mini LED. I was thinking to myself, it must not have been in HDR when I watched it at home because it looked so much more impressive on his set... Once I got home I realized it was indeed in HDR and that what I was witnessing was just the difference in technology. I'll never go back to go OLED. OLED is great for SDR but it sucks for HDR. Brightness stability is a real issue.

[@thenonexistinghero]

Sounds like nonsense because Sony's non-QLEDs were actually faring better in HDR tests than the QLEDs. Other brands tend to have more pop, but it's at the cost of accuracy and their local dimming doesn't really compare. Sony seems to be the king of the LEDs whether they use QLED or not. Though now their high-end LEDs do use QLED. But even if they weren't, they'd probably still be king.

[@HereAfterNow]

Help! I put my new TCL qm8 2024 on movie mode like you said but the option to change the "dynamic tone mapping" is missing. 😢

[@InfamousHp]

The U8N in a 55” has a completely diff panel than its larger sizes. I wouldn’t recommend it judging it on the same scale as its 65” counter part.

[@andrewrae50]

I just picked up a 85 Hisense U8N and when I have my Apple TV connected, I can’t change out of Dolby Vision to any other setting - Film Maker, etc is always greyed out. In addition, it doesn’t play certain series in full mode. Any suggestions?

[@ryanchenoweth5673]

What model is the TCL QM8 in Australia? 🤔

[@fps_lobotv]

Need a Bravia 9 comparison ASAP. You are the only opinion I want to hear from in regards to how it stacks up. I’m torn between a Bravia 8 and Bravia 9. Potentially even an A95L. I plan on buying a 65”

[@sammy10001]

Buy the one with a glossy screen. Usually the tcl

[@TheMailerDaemonLives]

How is the motion on the new QM8 is it at all improved by the newer processor?

[@Forthepeople21]

SAME

[@bartus88]

You're reviews are going to benefit tremendously from the use of the HX3110. I always thought that always using certain OLED tv's as a benchmark is somewhat questionable, giving that they consistently crush a lot of shadow details, greatly rely on tone mapping, have limited HDR impact, and can't handle high APL scenes. It's great that you'll now have an actual proper reference display that you can use for many years to come. Will you make a video about the HX3110? I think a lot of your viewers will be interested both in the measurements and your personal impressions. By the way these type of comparisons are great, I hope you'll keep doing them.

[@mati_wod]

Great video, FOMO! Were you able to test out upscaling/processing for the 2024 QM8? Wondering if it's any better than 2023, which I know had some issues with low bitrate content.

[@Forthepeople21]

THEY WILL NOT ANSWER THIS QUESTION LOOK AT ALL THE COMMENTS ASKING THIS AND NO ONE ANSWERS CUASE THEY WANT THEM TO SELL AND MAKE MONEY

[@mati_wod]

@@Forthepeople21 idk if I'd go that far, but I definitely get the frustration! FOMO has shown some sports clips and the 2024 QM8 seemed to be struggling a bit still with YTTV content, so not looking like an improvement in that aspect. Bummer for sure.

[@Davidcharrod]

Got my U8N 65 being delivered in a few days. I've watched videos on both and the Hisense just seems to perform on OLED level with shadows and it controls it's brightness like a champ. Also can't beat the the audio system so I don't have to always use my sound bar.

[@tumarbongrox6074]

Yes it all sounds good, HOWEVER you will notice glitches in the TV's panel at around 6 to 10 months of ownership....you will be lucky to make it to 12 months without the screen going completely black. I have owned 3 U8Ks 75 inch (1 for my livingroom and 2 bedrooms) and only 1 of the TVs lasted 13 months the other two died after 10 months! What is going on with Hisense?? The TV starts off with a BEAUTIFUL picture and ends up with a dead panel that begins to glitch before dying completely! Unless Hisense has addressed the longevity of their panels in the U8N then I wouldn't go anywhere near a store to purchase the U8N!!

[@ryanbaker7404]

FOMO: pans the camera to reveal a grouping of 6 TVs plus a 7th, the A95L. Me: realizes that's worth more than both of my cars, combined, lol.

[@lazarohonorio4216]

QM8 2024 same C855?

[@TheRebecablack]

Just got Hisense U7k 2024

[@mikewmoran84]

@stopthefomo how does the G4 hold up against the brighter Mini LED's when it comes to HDR? Is it an actually noticeable difference that it reaches lower nits than the U8N and especially the QM8?

[@Yoga_Tv_buying]

G4 color Volume at 8.3/10. U8N just came out from rtings , Color Volume Matching Samsung S95C. It’s insane. I would expect Qm8 would match that too. For most ppl side by side they will still U8N n Qm8 more colorful even G4 already had color boost to up the like 10-15% from last year. But its not much. U8N Qm851 already reaching flagship QD-OLED color volume . It will have much vivid pop.

[@Icipher4]

Is the 98 inch 2024 QM8 the same panel and performance as the 65?

[@stopthefomo]

Arguably BETTER

[@ianswenson4575]

I just bought the 85" 2023 qm8 for $1500. I don't necessarily NEED a new TV but I'm trying to finish off my home theater with a high end set. My question is should I send it back and wait for sales on a 2024? Are the improvements that big that I should be patient? Or am I fine now with this purchase and should I just wait until there's a huge jump in tech? I love this new TV era but it's like PC building. Every year there's a big jump in performance so it's not hard to get buyers remorse in the tech world.

[@Yoga_Tv_buying]

I would. I almost bought U8K 75” but i am thinking of getting U8N or U9N now. Rtings JUST posted the newest U8N review. U8N dyamic contrast ratio is around 3X of 2023 Qm8. On the site actually saying it has almost OLED level. And Full GLOSS Screen. The native cotnrast ratio is 2X of 2023 Qm8. N has Color volume so high reach Samsung S95C level. I would think Qm8 2024 will at least match. Since u are getting 85” might as well up a few hundred bucks, might really serve u well in the long run :) It might be possible that Qm8 2024 also do a Full Gloss screen like U8N. I will wait for that if its true. They were semi gloss last year.

[@MrUnk0wnN]

You should wait until ai gets placed into tv’s to improve image quality.

[@CarlosMartinez-mr1qb]

Great Review Fomo!!!!

[@Waltwizzle]

The S90C is on sale 1899.00 best buy What would you puck S90C or 75" QM8 2024

[@colinchang1543]

Love these breakdowns.... which do you like better, '24 QM8 or Bravia 7?

[@stopthefomo]

I haven’t seen the Bravia 7 yet but for value it’s the ‘24 QM8 for $1000 less! At the same price as the B7 I’d get the S90D or S95C

[@TheMailerDaemonLives]

@@stopthefomoProblem with the Bravia 7 is off angle and no anti glare. It’s got the nits to perform decently in a bright room but lacks those other features that are useful. It’s a confusing TV to me tbh.

[@colinchang1543]

@@stopthefomo The Sony tax is insane haha. Have a price prediction for the 75" '24 QM8 come Black Friday?

[@abhs1141]

The reviewers are sponsored by china brand careful . They will twist and turn .

[@cgott42]

'24 85" TCL QM8 or '23 Hisense UX 85"?

[@aliendisclosure227]

Does the 24 QM8 solve the chroma 444 issue at 120 hz+ for PC usage that the 23 QM8 had?

[@arielis78]

Go Hisense if you want chroma 444. It is the best for all use cases.

[@TheMailerDaemonLives]

@@arielis78Is it though…

[@arielis78]

@@TheMailerDaemonLives TV watching, check. Movie watching, check. Console gaming, check. PC gaming and tasks(CHROMA 444), check. All while having HDR and Dolby vision and Free sync and G sync support. Yes, it is...But only if you're asking about for mini Led like aliendisclosure227 stated.

[@Travith1]

Thanks I just bought the 23 qm8. Guess I should have waited

[@JuanSanchez-ho4mg]

You can still return it

[@stopthefomo]

If from Best Buy or Amazon just exchange within return period?

[@444chroma]

Love the shirt

[@Tpayne246]

how is the upscaling on 2024 qm8?

[@abhs1141]

They never talk about upscaling , which most of us need , because we watch lots of Hd1080 contents . If they talk about it , no tvs can match Sony . These reviewers are not sponsored by Sony . Clearly here Sony x90L is not stack up , because I think Sony will beat all them in terms of color accuracy , image detail and upscaling . I notice they will stack up Sony of the higher end , they will say almost close to Sony quality , but they will recommend buying Sony of the high prices . Then you know they are sponsored by china brand . They will never talk about the reliability too . At the just Trust your eyes

[@Forthepeople21]

@@abhs1141 EXACTLY ITS ALL ABOUT NUMBERS ITS SO SAD AND THESE ARE NOT REAL WORLD SCENARIOS. LIKE COME OM GIVE THE PEOPLE WHAT THEY WANT

[@ajwtf6539]

But if you could get x95L 65 would it change your decision. I've been trying to decide between 65 c3 for £1200 or x95L 65 for £1699

[@rudymaldonado477]

C3 better tv and save money

[@stopthefomo]

X95L is good with accuracy and skin tones out of the box, great TV overall and in a different league HOWEVER, 2024 QM8 will beat it in HDR impact (blooming control, specular highlights) but that’s a narrow performance slice so I’d take the X95L due to XR Clear for motion, upscaling and skin tones

[@Alexandrevonf]

would like to know how the c855 compares to the QM851G

[@TheMailerDaemonLives]

The 851g is comparable to the x955 not the c855

[@j.w7611]

No the X955 is better than the 851g. It is even more equal to the TLC C845

[@MichelleAlexandria-EM]

I really loved the last year's QM8. Blacks were great, as someone who uses Subtitles all the time, having no blooming around subtitles is vital. I didn't notice any crushing like in previous years. Fantastic sound and nice full screen brightness. I would have kept the TV but the Dolby Vision was broken. Not only was it super dark but it had a weird hazy sheen to it. If they fixed DV for the 2024 model then I would be happy. I bought it for $2,999. Hopefully it'll be good. I'm just kind of tired of OLEDs after having them for 10 years and I don't particularly like QD Oleds they are ok, but it's hard to get rid of the weird Yellow glow.

[@SilvioManfredDante]

Are you going to review the QN95D? I haven't seen many people even talking about it.

[@stopthefomo]

Unlikely because once again it’s a limited release TV available only from custom installers

[@TheMailerDaemonLives]

@@stopthefomoShocking to me how much worse the QN90D performs against the new QM8.

[@JuanSanchez-ho4mg]

If I have a U8K should I upgrade or wait another year

[@fvallo]

Wait, u8k dimming is phenomenal but panel sucks

[@stopthefomo]

Just wait

[@damontroch4765]

​@@fvallodon't worry by the time it's 3 years old it will quit working anyway. So might as well wait. 😂

[@matze4069]

Great, we need a test between TCL QM8 2024, Bravia 9 and LG G4 🙏

[@TheMailerDaemonLives]

I get how that would be interesting but those TVs are twice the cost!

[@stopthefomo]

It’s COMING and all 3 against the Sony 3110 mastering monitor!

[@matze4069]

@@stopthefomo WOW, great news! 🥰

[@g.e.5723]

Man, I watch these videos carefully and I continue to be confused. I'm considering the Hisense 65U7N, 65U8N, and TCL 65QM850G. I dont game, just watch sports, news, various programs etc. I guess I dont really need hdr WOW! factor (it would be nice). I get hung up on nits and zones. Gotta have as many of each, (or so i think). Wish i could learn of a lesser priced mini-led for "non-gaming".

[@diego1294]

Tcl qm8 is the same as tcl c855 on other markets?

[@TheMailerDaemonLives]

I don’t think it is, I believe the 2024 QM8 is the x955 basically

[@diego1294]

@@TheMailerDaemonLives yeah, thats what I thought. Thank you.

[@j.w7611]

No it is more equal to the TLC C845

[@j.w7611]

The X955 is up to 115" not up to 98"

[@douglaslopez6178]

I just bought the TCL qm8 2024 after my TCL 825 died after 4yrs of use..The Techs came out and tried to fix it but the display kept shorting out the motherboard..so they recommended I get a new TV instead..so after watching this video..I went with the qm8 851g!Thanks Fomo!

[@ehenningsen]

TCL isnt playing around, the QM8 is gorgeous

[@FenixPajarito]

I've seen using Oleds for years but definitely switching to Mini LED. Until Oled release a panel with the high peak brightness of a Mini Led TV then I'll come back but still that burn in and ABL ASBL is annoying.

[@BTheInstaller]

Great video info. I hope people appreciate how much time and effort it takes to be this informed and prepared. Great stuff! 👍

[@drewfrye8528]

I just bought a the 2024 TCL QM8. I came from a 2020 Samsung 8k. The black levels are OLED quality and the brights are second to none. What an amazing tv for the money. I hope TCL forces everyone to compete in price and quality.

[@Forthepeople21]

HOW IS MOTION AND UPSCALING

[@coprolite_steve]

I see the LG C3 77” for $1999 with 5 year coverage included and the TCL 75” QM8 for $1999 without any extended warranty…What would you guys do?

[@rudymaldonado477]

S90c same price range better tv

[@JFLTX]

77 s90c $1899

[@305Nick]

@@JFLTX i just scored an 77 G4 for 3k shipped

[@mrblonde71384]

+1 on the 77 S90C... QD OLED. No contest

[@KAT-pi3pk]

Thank you FOMO. You never seem to cover how the TV's look at a slightly off viewing angle. If several people are watching at the same time, most probably somebody is going to have an off angle such as 30 degrees. How do the the TVs compare at off angles?

[@stopthefomo]

I’ll check!

[@jhenisethe4th]

@@stopthefomothanks for checking I am also interested in this as well!

[@adamborgia3880]

QM8 2023 now on sale (Best Buy) for $1400 for an 85 inch. That’s CRAZY.

[@tumarbongrox6074]

Yea that price is crazy but after about 10 months of owning the TV then the glitches start and after about 18 months to 24 months of normal TV watching the TCL will die🤔.

[@adamborgia3880]

Are you talking about TCL in general? I have a 2019 TCL QLED, glitches are minimal, and it’s been fine. At that sale price, you can get a 5 year Best Buy comprehensive warranty for around $200, which helps. I’ve had two LG OLEDS that developed pan defects (not burn in, but actually line deformities) in less than three years each, requiring returns or panel replacements. And I’m super careful with all my TVs. So far my TCL has given me the least amount of issues.

[@Barbarapape]

My finger was hovering on the 2023 QM8, this is available in 50" here in the UK If the 2024 QM851 is only going to be available in the larger sizes then that rules it out for me. For now i will wait and see, the 2023 prices will drop a tad more when the 2024 model makes it here

[@FenixPajarito]

Seems like TCL QM851 will be my new TV I wanted the Bravia 7 but it was not what I was exoexting also the Hisense U8N cost only $1099 what a deal... I want the QM851 but that U8N is pure value.

[@Gary-W]

I want a 98 QM851G. Are you going to review 98 inch TVs?

[@stopthefomo]

I’m planning for it but side by side will be crazy hard!

[@Gary-W]

@@stopthefomo Obviously it would.. But just review of the 98's even if not side by side would be helpful before laying out 6K or so...:) I'm upgrading from a 2019 Samsung Q90R..I love this TV and it has been rock solid.. Just looking to move up toa 98 from 82... Trying to make the right choice in mini led..

[@ozwin2]

I would love to see a compare of TCL 98 QM851G vs LG 83OLEDG4. 83 is as big as you can get OLED before the price becomes unattainable for all but the wealthiest, if the TCL 98 QM851G could be just as good/nearly as good but it is bigger AND cheaper then could see a reason to move away from OLED.

[@rct8884]

Great comparison show, next would be motion and upscaling processing for me to make an informed choice this year.

[@Forthepeople21]

@@rct8884 AGAIN THIS ISWHERE THEY STOP AT CAUSE CONTRAST AND NITS ARE MORE IMPORTANT OVER MOTION AND UPSCALING. ITS SAD AND PATETHIC

[@demonreturns4336]

Whose the hell great stupid dumb idea was it to name TVs the same name for consecutive years in a row 🙄

[@SeanOkita]

2023 85 inch QM8 is $1500 at BestBuy

[@mrblonde71384]

Sick deal 🔥

[@abelramos8652]

Facts: fomo tv at home is a 21” ctr from the 90s

[@kineahora8736]

@stop the FOMO you bring up good points about room brightness. Im a radiologist. We generally prefer dark but not pitch black ambient light-for some types of image interpretation (breast imaging) there are actually government regulations on screen brightness (candelas) AND AMBIENT ROOM LIGHT (in lumens). because we cannot afford to miss any “shadow detail” (black crush)! I would love to see display reviewers like you give ratings for dark rooms AND BRIGHT ROOMS (with CLEARLY STATED ambient conditions quantified IN LUMENS)!

[@gilbertleo8232]

Bright rooms , dark and medium lit rooms . And perhaps Filmmaker Mode in suggested theater lit rooms . Those would be useful measures for most of us . 10,000 nit clipping ??? How often does that happen and how useful would that measurement really be ?

[@kineahora8736]

Thank you FOMO- Im about to buy a LG G4 and I have a really bright room, tv will be behind a 1-way mirror I need that setting! Cinema home/dynamic tone mapping/expression enhancer brightness on!

[@heyolorenns]

I LOVE U

[@budthecyborg4575]

We are approaching "Peak LCD". Once they hit 10,000 zone FALD there won't be much left to improve in an LCD panel TV. The QM8 with 5,000 zones is only halfway to ideal, but still I would call it the first of a new breed of TV.

[@510maddog]

That's probably for the 115" model

[@stopthefomo]

Yep, maybe in 2 years!

[@budthecyborg4575]

@@510maddog Arguably the 115" model has already made it when that thing has 20,000 zones. Anyone who can fit that TV in their house has the best image quality you'll ever see out of LCD technology.

[@quazar_galaxy]

U8N the best TV in this year! Perfect colours and cheap price! I bought u8n for 1200$ and very like it!

[@InfamousHp]

2024 QM8 vs Bravia 7 PLEASE!

[@FenixPajarito]

TCL bro no contest here begging with the price difference also the Bravia 7 doesn't have a Glossy panel and it does not handle reflections well, the Bravia 7 is just a X93L with a bit higher peak brightness 🔆 if you want the best from Sony you have to get the Bravia 9 and pay a lot of money that's not justified in my opinion. TCL851 also the Bravia 7 has worse viewing angle than the X93L.. It's like.....

[@InfamousHp]

@@FenixPajarito I hear you but I want the masses to see how close they are. The X93 was around $500 more than the QM8 & it showed. I really wanna see if the new QM8 was able to close the gaps in crushed blacks & motion processing to the Bravia 7/X93

[@ubuu7]

@@FenixPajarito the x93l was a much better looking tv than the qm8. Watch content on those two tvs side by side and the tcl colors look off and the highlight focus is not as good. I think it goes beyond the backlight and is more about what sonys processing is trying to highlight.

[@FenixPajarito]

@@ubuu7 The QM851 2024 is not the same as the QM8 2023. Did you even watch FOMO videos about the New TCL? I know Sony is amazing with the picture quality but the TCL is offering a 65 inch for only $1499 with a Glossy panel and the Sony Bravia 7 65 inch is $2000 with a non Glossy panel. The Bravia 7 has some black crush issues I've watched a review already and rtings gave it a 8.4/10. Plus the Sony has higher Input Lag than the TCL so gaming is even better on the TCL.

[@FenixPajarito]

@@InfamousHp The new QM851 is not the same as the 2023 and the Bravia 7 is not really that better than the X93L so based on that the TCL QM851 is better value and better tv than the Bravia 7 the Bravia 7 is literally a X93L but with slightly higher Brightness 🔆. Also the Bravia 7 can't display pitch black bars like the 2024" QM8. Even FOMO is comparing the TCL QM851 against the Bravia 9. I rather get the X93L 65 Inch over the Bravia 7 55 inch.

[@RedPillAlways]

So I know I said I was going to keep my LG C1 till 2026. But I ended up breaking down and getting me an LG C3 with 5-year warranty for about $2,000. Yeah I'm 100% happy with it

[@Pete.across.the.street]

Cool story bro

[@buschg7106]

I have the QM8. Buy it.

[@nottoolive]

Why so much hate for x93l?

[@stopthefomo]

Didn’t mention it? It’s a bit expensive compared to X90L and the blooming issue would not show well against the QM8

[@fps_lobotv]

@@stopthefomoI am not a fan of the X93L at all. I can’t wait for that display to be taken out of Best Buy. Bad blooming in the 65”, low zone count, and no XR Clear. Luckily we will have a 65” displayed so I can plug a Blu-ray player into it at work to test it further than I got to at the Sony road show. When do you get your Bravia 9 in? And will you be a livestream as soon as you do?

[@flyingtoupee]

These vs Qn90c since prices are good on those now and it’s a major brand

[@TheMailerDaemonLives]

QN90c is not nearly as good as the 24 QM8

[@flyingtoupee]

@@TheMailerDaemonLives you have both ?

[@Forthepeople21]

@@TheMailerDaemonLives WHY CAUSE ITS BRIGHTER AND HAS BETTER CONTRAST LOL SMH WHAT ABOUT UPSCALING AND MOTION

[@Swecan76]

The Bravia 9 spanked the living crap out of the QN900D in KG stream. I don't even think that was an opinion just straight fact. I am not sure it would be brighter than a QM8 2024. But it will be up there and definitely have better processing and contrast and color and shadow detail.. That said now that you soon have your 3110. The truth can be revealed among all the TVs. I am not really into OLED because of my PC usage and ASBL would be really annoying. If that didn't exist G4 would be my otherwise pick if B9 was a total waste. But thankfully it's not. It won't beat any OLED in a dark room. But it will be close in most scenes and will have brightness advantage in SDR and high APL HDR. I think it might beat the G4 in shadow detail. And definitely in color luminance etc. I also don't sit in a dark room, but dimly lit light controlled room with ambient bias lighting behind the TV.

[@thatsamazin-]

I don’t think it spanked it. I think it beat it by a small margin. In quite a few scenes, the 900d looked better. It’s just that the b9 won in most scenes. In game mode, they were almost identical and both lacking imo. Game mode definitely looks and performs better on a newer oled. I’m not certain, but still leaning towards the G4 as the best overall tv. I’m gonna wait for more side by side comparisons.

[@mabombo8221]

People forget that the 65" QN900D is dimmer than the 75" and 85", it is mostly because of the 8k pixel density, it hurts the brightness on 65"

[@michaelhutchings6602]

Great to see TCL starting to really get serious. More competition is always a good thing!

[@fullhd5277]

👍🏻

[@mitchstavely1]

To my eyes, it seems the Hisense comes the closes to oled...

[@ubuu7]

I don't know if FOMO knows the bravia 7 exists, he skipped right to mentioning the bravia 9 above the x90l !!!!!!!! Still outside the price bracket sure, but not AS big of a financial leap.

[@TheMailerDaemonLives]

That’s because the B7 isn’t in for review yet and also, it’s getting worse ratings than the x93l

[@fps_lobotv]

@@TheMailerDaemonLiveswhat reviewers said it was worse than the x93L?

[@TheMailerDaemonLives]

@@fps_lobotvJust by the metrics, the team at Rtings rated it lower overall because it has poor viewing angles and cannot combat glare.

[@qupeter1224]

how about s90c 65😂😂

[@ragnarokpxn5196]

Why call them Chinese budget brands when all these brands has Chinese parts in em? Lol

[@apearlman1025]

Just got the hisense U8N but going to return it after watch this video for the TCL

[@nem3th]

Why return U8N, is it so bad? Right now I looking between U8N and QM8/C855 , in my region we get C855.

[@michaelwyckoff7593]

Yo FOMO.😊

[@spyofborg]

hmm. I live in China and I now have to wonder. The QM8 2024 you are talking about is indeed *almost* the real flagship. I say this because in China, they sell the true flag ship under X11H (not G). The 85X11H has 10368 zones and XDR is 6500 nits. I don't think this model will be for sale outside China in 2024, most likely that will be the QM8 2025 model. Sadly, no idea how good it performs since I didn't find a store that has this puppy.

[@damontroch4765]

Neither. I'm done with Hisense Sony, LG, Samsung only from now on. At least they last and can process a picture properly, and you can use the Smart features without drama because the Chinese brand suck at that functionality with slowness and hang ups. U8H was horrible processing And my H8G lasted 12k hours and died. That's Pathetic I had a 2018 LG 8 series OLED with 36k hours on it and still sold it for $200. No issues what so ever. I still have a Vizio E series from 2015 that has 48k on it and it still works to this day. So look at Rtings longevity test. The Hisense TVs have horrendous uniformity issues at 9k hours. That says alot. They are trash.

[@steviemac2377]

Almost bought a 55 Hisense U8N the other day since they're already on sale, boy I'm glad I decided to check youtube to see what everyone was saying before I did

[@damontroch4765]

Seriously bro. Don't do it. Go look at all the comments at best buy from a 2-3 year old model. It's the same story. Won't load or power up. And the Uniformity is horrendous after about 7000 hours.

[@damontroch4765]

I have a Sony x90L it it absolutely crushed the processing of Hisense U8H that I kept for 29 days . So disappointed in that tv. It's bright yep. But it too bright and washed out . Same with the blacks. Except the processing was so horrible it was all blotchy with multiple shades of black micro blocking. Absolutely dog shiT. So believe me that X90L is way way better. Also I have a 2021 70inch Vizio M7 that everyone gives so so reviews yet the blacks on that tv Killed my H8G and the motionwas better too. . That tvs still going strong. I just picked up a LG UR9000 to replace that H8G and for a $500 tv I'm very impressed. It's not as horrible as all the reviews claim. I thinks it's actually pretty good. It's just not super bright. But for an lg edge lit panel I was impressed. No screen bleed and it actually only has slightly lifted black. Definitely not terrible at all. But I think my next tv gonna be a Lg B4 or C4 to replace my Vizio

[@damontroch4765]

​@@steviemac2377 Look into either a Sony X90L Samsung Qn85c even LG Qned83 or 85

[@christopherthomas5159]

Yeah those Chinese tvs ain’t shit 100 image is blurry os is buggy

[@amirshabani9886]

So no QM8 for Europe,why the f..k they do shit like this?same tcl and hisense!

[@nancybrown9706]

The new Hisense sucks I bought one and took it back the next day and brought another lg oled I was just kidding myself trying something different

[@boutte88]

Same

[@whiteandnerdytuba]

No I don’t want any tv that tiny

[@gcash2074]

TCL televisions are great if you can't afford Sony.