Bret Offered To Drop The Belt To Austin, Vince Declined. Bret Offered To Drop The Belt Back To The Undertaker, Vince Declined. Bret Offered To Drop The Belt To Shamrock, Vince Declined. Bret Even Offered To Drop The Belt To The Patriot & Once Again Vince Declined. Bret Asked If Shawn Put Him Over At Survivor Series Then Bret Would Put Him Over At The Next Night On Raw Or At The Next Ppv, Vince Declined That Too. Bret Finally Agreed To Drop The Belt To Shawn & Shawn Said He Wasn't Willing To Do The Same For Bret. Shawn Also Refused To Put Bret Over At Wrestlemania 13. And Not To Forget Bret Had Creative Control For His LAST 30 Days, So If Anything What Vince Did Was A Breach Of Contract. Bret Was NEVER Wrong In The Entire Thing.
@rodzorКүн бұрын
Why did you capitalize the first letter of every single word? 🤪
@thebatman7192Күн бұрын
@rodzor Old Habit
@dereklambert5145Күн бұрын
When exactly did Bret offer to the drop the belt to any of these wrestlers? Because he took a secret recording of all his conversations with Vince and never once did he make any of those offers. He only insisted on not losing in Canada because he was a national hero and handing the belt over the next night
@rc8657Күн бұрын
Undertaker wasn't the story. Stone cold wasn't the story. Shawn Michaels was
@Rick-si1reКүн бұрын
Agreed, I know it's "business" and not personal but I don't think that Bret was asking too much when he said he did not want to drop the title to Shawn, especially in Montreal, that was a personal request but the man put in 14 years of loyal service to the company and he only had 2 sick days in all of those 14 years. I mean it wasn't too much to ask. I know that Vince was scared that Bret was going to leave with the WWF title and do something like Madusa did with the women's title and throw the WWF title in the trash can on worldwide television, which would have been like spitting in the WWF's face at the time but Bret claimed he'd never do that.... I get Vince's side of it, but I just think that more people should try and see it from Bret's side, how would you feel if someone said they were NOT going to put you over and even from a story-line, Shawn had gone pretty far with some of the things he was doing, he deserved to get his a$$ handed to him and deserved to lose the match. The right thing to do was have a DQ finish and have Hart drop it to either Michaels or Austin on Raw the next night. Vince could never say "well I wanted HBK to be the champion" he had full control, he could have easily put the belt on Michaels.
@brtang2 күн бұрын
Marcus forgot TWO important facts. 1) Brett agreed to put over ANYONE else. 2) Brett had Creative Control written in his contract.
@killaseason82Күн бұрын
Who cares the company was on the brink of going out of business at the time n Bret was willing to jeopardize Vince company over a meaningless personal beef with another employee
@crownprincesebastianjohano70693 күн бұрын
Ted is correct about being a good company man, but, the most important extenuating circumstance is that *1)* Bret had a creative control clause in his contract and was legally empowered to refuse to drop the belt to a given individual, and *2)* Vince had promised Bret that Bret can drop the belt during the next week. _This was caught on video. _*_So Vince not only lied, but he broke the terms of the contract as well._* So, it wasn't business is business; Vince _freely and willingly agreed to creative control when he negotiated Bret's last contract,_ and broke the trust and the law. Bret absolutely was within the contractual bounds of the business to refuse.
@rc8657Күн бұрын
Reasonable creative control. Not full creative control. Brett was still wrong he was leaving the next day
@rc8657Күн бұрын
If you broke the law why wasn't there a lawsuit
@rc8657Күн бұрын
He's leaving tomorrow if he's not willing to do business you do business for him. Vince was correct. What if Brett took that belt and threw it down on WCW. Cuz he negotiated to take the Intercontinental title with him to WCW in 92 that's why they took the belt off of him. And wouldn't put back on him until he signed a new contract. I would have done the same thing
@Rick-si1reКүн бұрын
As I said, you're right, the whole thing could have been avoided if it were a DQ finish, sure maybe the fans in Montreal that night wouldn't have been happy but most of them probably would tune into Raw the next day any way and Hart offered to drop the title to Michaels the next night on Raw. He just "refused" to lose in Montreal because from a character standpoint he said that would be "suicide". I don't know how much truth there is to that, I know Bret was (and still is) a Canadian hero so I don't know if the loss would have hurt that much, the other part of it is he didn't want to lose specifically to HBK because of the bad blood between them and Michaels refusing to put Hart over, Bret has mentioned this countless times in interviews over the years regarding the "Montreal screwjob", sadly that's the only thing Survivor Series 1997 is remembered for.
@kenterminateddq53113 күн бұрын
I think Bret Hart wouldn't have a problem dropping the belt to Shawn Michaels. HOWEVER, when Shawn told Bret that he wouldn't job to him, that rubbed Bret the wrong way.
@thomashornsby31082 күн бұрын
The real conversation (as told by Bret) was even worse) it was not about dropping the belt to Shawn. It was anout not tsli g liberties inside the ring due to the heat they had with each other
@DdotAdot3 күн бұрын
Without any details included you would say Bret was in the wrong, just on the surface of it. When you consider all of the important details I feel Bret was in the right.
@foxholiday43082 күн бұрын
Yeah man, it's a funny thing....I understand you can't allow Bret to leave with the belt, he was done after that night, no matter what he says, but.....Bret didn't want to put Shawn over after everything in his home town, I mean...the belt needed to be dropped, it's really a strange situation....the belt should have been dropped before that night to someone else, but that never happened, so Bret goes in with the belt....you can't let him leave with it, no matter how honorable Bret it, its really fucked,
@user-kf3bb7ld7n2 күн бұрын
EVERYONE was in the wrong.
@generalsol2 күн бұрын
Think about it this way, both Vince and Bret were idiots in this. Vince put his world title on bret, then decided he no longer wanted bret, told Bret to see if the contract for the WCW was still available before taking the belt off Bret. That's where Vince is an idiot, could have saved so much trouble if he got in the belt off Bret first then told him we don't have a spot for you anymore. Where Bret is an idiot, he kept refusing every type of plan, he refused to let them cheat to win, which would still make him look strong. He just absolutely refused to lose kept using the excuse of he doesn't want to lose in his hometown, which right there tells Vince it doesn't matter who he's up against he's going to refuse to lose. People today have said he just didn't want to lose to Shawn, but if you watch wrestling with shadows he wasn't saying he didn't want to lose to Shawn he was saying he didn't want to lose in his hometown. So Vince is being told that his champion who is out the door after this match is refusing to drop the title. The only thing Brett is offering is a double disqualification then he'll just go on raw and drop the belt and you can give it to Shawn then. Which if you go Vince's point of view that means Eric bischoff is going to start promoting that they got the real WWF world champion who never lost in WCW. That's going to make WWF look weak. This is a case of Vince being an idiot because he put his belt on someone he didn't want to keep around, and bret is an idiot because he only thought about himself and didn't want to think about what's good for the company. Especially with how Bret likes to talk about is how he was offered this big contract and then Vince said he couldn't afford it anymore, did Bret ever say he offered to take a pay cut? I've never heard anyone say Bret ever offered to take a pay cut until the company was in better shape. In fact the moment he was told to see if you can get that awesome deal from WCW still he made the call. Bret keeps saying that he wanted to be loyal to the WWF to the end but where was the loyalty? In the end all Bret thought about was himself and he's been bitter about it ever since and he just can't let go of that or the fact that he got kicked in the head by Goldberg.
@nunyabidness7463Күн бұрын
when people leave, most of the time, they have them leave in the most embarrassing way possible.
@generalsolКүн бұрын
@nunyabidness7463 Because doing your job in putting over a talent in the company you're leaving is so embarrassing. 8 times out of 10 the most embarrassing way someone left the company in WWE was the wrestler's idea. Other than the Montreal screw job which unfortunately is Brett's fault, I really can only think of maybe 1 or 2 times where someone was embarrassed first as they left the company because Vince McMann is a vindictive asshole. But most of the time it's they put over a talent and WWE and then they leave.
@tobysgamingworld15502 күн бұрын
It was Vince. He wanted the real life drama. He could’ve kept Bret at a different contract, let Shawn go be with his buddies and Owen would still be alive.
@rc8657Күн бұрын
Sean wasn't going to be able to go with his buddies because Bischoff didn't want him.
@rc8657Күн бұрын
Owen would still be alive if he said no
@tobysgamingworld1550Күн бұрын
@ bull 💩 Bischoff would’ve taken him in a second and paid him the moon. You sincerely think WCW wouldn’t have taken the current WWE champion when they were taking guys like Virgil and Boss Man? Think it out. Vince is a creep. He kept Shawn there with Shawn begging to be let out of his contract and kept Owen there with Owen begging to be let out. Vince is the problem.
@stewartmcrae80079 сағат бұрын
@tobysgamingworld1550 Vince didn't let Shawn go because he was Vinces boy toy
@norbertschnurrbart9362 күн бұрын
There are some things I would like to point that are not mentioned in this video. Vince McMahon created this situation that could have been avoided. He asked Bret to cancel his contract and get one with WCW while he was still the champion. Then he asked Bret to lose in Canada (where he really was a national hero) against Shawn Michaels who (as it was pointed out) refused to do the same for Bret. Bret had still several weeks on his contract where he could lose the belt to anybody, even Shawn if he would have given Bret the win that was promosed to him before (at WrestleMania 13 and then KOR 1997 where Bret was supposed to beat Shawn in both cases). Shawn refused to be part of the losing team that was in the main event of Canadian Stampede so he never gave Bret his win, even in a 10 men tag match. In Bret's contract it was stated that Bret had creative control for his last 30 days of his contract. So Bret was totally and legally in the right for refusing to lose to Shawn at Survivor Series. If Vince would have waited for Bret to lose the belt before getting out of the contract that Bret signed in 1996, this whole situation could have been avoided!
@rc8657Күн бұрын
Okay if that's the case then any American wrestler could say I'm not dropping the belt in America
@norbertschnurrbart93616 сағат бұрын
@@rc8657More like not dropping the belt in their hometown, since most wrestlers in the WWE were american and WWE is an american company. It would be like Shawn Michaels wrestling Sid for the title at Royal Rumble 1997 and not winning the title infront of his hometown crowd. Sure you could do it. But the fans would be pretty pissed. What if Bret shouldn't bitch about losing in Canada, what about all the other points I made?
@littletom19782 күн бұрын
Shawn had a total of 9 titles won from 93-98, he lost 4 of them in the ring ( Marty, Sid, Austin, joke match to Triple H) ....Can say storyline for some, tag title reigns with Diesel, neither lost in ring. ..draw your own conclusions. Shawn was one of my absolute favorites but as time goes on and learn, you find out and see, man, he was a pr*ck , all about himself and just always happened to have injuries so didn't lose half his reigns in the ring.
@dereklambert5145Күн бұрын
You forgot dropping the IC to Razor at wrestlemania 10. It's literally the same belt he won and he lost it in the ring
@peterharding20522 күн бұрын
Vince McMahon didn’t want to do over the fans by having Bret Hart just hand over the belt, when he planned it for Survivor Series. The title had been treated like a prop in 1997. Rick Rude still lost the Ultimate Warrior despite all reports of him being unprofessional. I have seen Bret Hart talk about this in person when addressing this was a work rumour. He got visibly upset about this prior to his return in 2010. Fair play to Shawn Michaels for making great effort to make amends on Bret Hart’s return and their dvd/ blu-ray together.
@nanobluelectrobuzz92272 күн бұрын
Bret had creative control in his last month as champ so he could’ve told Vince & Shawn to screw off. Bret did the honorable thing. It was in his contract. I side with Bret.
@shaggymcgoose19702 күн бұрын
Vince and pat Patterson thought shawn was cute…sexy…a boy toy…😮
@harrisonmode8046Күн бұрын
Ted looks great - The Million Dollar Man was an amazing heel that I “hated” as a kid…great to see him again.
@Guy_Incognito13 күн бұрын
Everybody's got a price for the Million Dollar Man.
@karimglasgow551817 сағат бұрын
"I don't want to lose in Montreal because I'm from Calgary" never made sense to me.
@christopherbrush78452 күн бұрын
Why does it have to be Michals? More than enough players were there to drop that belt. It also did not have to be in Canada. Just pick someone else at a different place.
@tomingram41082 күн бұрын
One thing that is always left out about the screw job is that bret still had 6 weeks left in the wwe before going to wcw. Vince made the deal with nret on the finish then triple h and Shawn got I'm vinces ear
@dereklambert5145Күн бұрын
He was annual leave for those 6 weeks. He fully fulfilled his contractual obligations and had no contractual obligation to work another night
@imogenaris16972 күн бұрын
Ted sounds like Shawn giving an interview- "ya, you know". Ted probably wasn't complaining about the original NWO trio having creative control with their contracts, while he was in wcw making sweet $ for doing absolutely nothing but standing next to the alpha's of the company, just like Virgil. He couldn't think of a time that he had to put over someone he hated?? Sounds like he's having memory issues from his comments about Warrior. Pro wrestling is not like a "regular" profession, but at the end of the day, you do what you're asked to do by your boss. On your way out the door, you either stay cordial or you choose to burn a bridge. Despite the insults, no matter how hard it is to do, you leave personal matters out of the workplace. Dynamite Kid ( R.I.P. ) was castrated on his way out because Vince wasn't going to pay him what was owed if Dynamite retaliated against Jacques. Man to man, Dynamite would have killed him but he had to swallow his pride. If an issue can't be resolved, you leave. In this instance though, Vince agreed to give Bret "creative control" in his contract. Vince didn't uphold his end, so all bets are off. Bret was justified in his actions.
@rc8657Күн бұрын
Now you have no clue cuz Ted was complaining just like everybody else was. As soon as you got a chance to get out he got out
@dannystaton53862 күн бұрын
Happy new year to all
@lorddaemonicus95332 күн бұрын
Yeah and what you don't know is that Bret had reasonable creative control the last 60 days of his contract and Vince actually reniged on the contract prior to Survivor Series. Might want to update your research before doing a video and not telling people the whole story.
@murraykelm56912 күн бұрын
If Bret had so called creative control, that Vince broke,then why did Bret not sue him?. I think it was all part of an elaborate work, that Bret later regretted.
@knightwalkrКүн бұрын
The problem was that Brett made several offers on different finishers for the match that would have worked and offered to cleanly drop the belt to several other people and that was all refused.
@rc8657Күн бұрын
Guys who ran creative said Brett wanted to hand the belt over the next night he didn't want to lose
@rc8657Күн бұрын
Several other people wasn't the storyline.
@petersmith59152 күн бұрын
I dont think it was just a job to bret at the time, he was so caught up in it all, showbiz became reality, egos clashed n it got out of hand, n bret was hurt for all hed done for the company to go out like that, imo.
@mkultra57522 күн бұрын
Shawn didn't show him respect what do you expect? Dibiase wouldn't understand this honor concept since hes a criminal..and host schill
@hyperchord2 күн бұрын
Wow, I did not expect anyone but Dibiase fanboys in the comments
@michaelwade91702 күн бұрын
It was actually the right thing at that time in the new generation era when Hbk lost his smile cause at that time Shawn Michaels needed a break he was tired out by that time it didnt make since for him & Sid for a third match than a Wrestlemania 13 rematch in the Horror Wrestlemania
@PassivePortfolios2 күн бұрын
Brett had no problem losing, just not in Canada.
@-Toaster-2 күн бұрын
It had nothing to do with losing in Canada. He wanted to beat Shawn first before handing over the belt. He could've lost to Shawn the next night in front of a much bigger audience.
@tobysgamingworld15502 күн бұрын
@@-Toaster-he didn’t care about “beating” Shawn which is why he pushed for a run-in “schmazz” ending where nobody won or lost and he’d abandon the belt Monday night. He offered to drop it to Ken Shamrock or Undertaker or even the Brooklyn Brawler. He just couldn’t let Shawn get over on him because of how bad he and Shawn hated each other. It’s not exactly smart but I blame Vince. Vince McMahon knew what was happening and he pushed it, stoked the fire. He shouldn’t have pushed Bret to WCW. It caused a chain reaction including Owens death. Owen wouldn’t have felt like he couldn’t say no to a stupid stunt if his brother was there because Bret had stroke
@PassivePortfolios2 күн бұрын
@@-Toaster- Brett said he did not want to lose in Canada.
@michaelwade91702 күн бұрын
Even there was a lot of controversy in the new generation era it made since they went with Undertaker & Sid at Wrestlemania 13 cause Wrestlemania 13 was the Horror Number it was The Darkside Wrestlemania & Hbk needed a break at that time!
@kevinstagi14972 күн бұрын
Always wondered why Bret didn’t just pull a Flair and take the belt to WCW.
@ukkingrex3 күн бұрын
Why did it have to happen in Canada? Why couldn’t Vince schedule the title change in an American city? Bret didn’t mind doing the job for Shawn. Just not in Canada. Add that to all the bs discussed here & I think it’s on Vince. On a side note, why does Ted even have a podcast? Unless it only coincidentally happens in the videos I don’t watch, he never has dirt, stories or even strong opinions on anything. And I always liked Ted so I don’t mean to bash him, although I realize it comes across that way.
@arturpawlowski2690Күн бұрын
Who else are we going to ask about their opinion on the Montreal screw job, the janitor that was at the building?
@jeff-ds2pr2 күн бұрын
What does "Sweet Child O Mine", "Threat To Democracy" and "The Montreal Screwjob" all have in common? They are all things that have been overplayed and beaten to death, that I never want to hear from ever again.
@murraykelm56912 күн бұрын
I don't think Vince truly respected Bre, i feel he only put the belt on him until the heat from the steroid trial simmered out,and then later using him as a transition champion, to put over his more favored wrestlers.
@65if20072 күн бұрын
But why did Bret have creative control in the first place and why put the belt on him so close to the expiration of his contract? Wasn't that asking for trouble? And there IS more than one way to skin a cat and they found that "other" way -- to beat Bret without really beating him in much the same way that they took the belt off of Hogan in 1988 without hurting him. Hogan got "screwed" in 1988 in kayfabe. Sorry. Bret can talk all he wants about how traumatic it was to get screwed in a work of fiction -and yet the whole thing STILL screams pre-arranged. In fact, he had spent that year and a half before the Screwjob delivering scripted rants about how badly he was getting treated.
@michaelwade91702 күн бұрын
It was the Right thing for Undertaker & Sid to be the Main Event for Wrestlemania 13 that was the Horror Wrestlemania it was the Darkside Wrestlemania 13 so go with the Undertaker as Champ at Wrestlemania 13 was the Right Thing
@kitfo182 күн бұрын
I would agree with Ted but given everything that happened before it this should have been a triple threat or something because Bret did say he would drop it to anyone else and gave a lot of names he would have done the job for.
@gstcomputing653 күн бұрын
The term "creative control" has been thrown around several times in the comments. However, the exact verbiage was "reasonable creative control". I'm not an attorney, but I have worked for a law firm at one time. I asked several attorneys what "reasonable creative control" could possibly mean. The general consensus was that it would do absolutely nothing, and it could never be enforced as it was way too vague of a term. The gist is, Vince didn't think it was reasonable to refuse, Bret did.
@jaro47422 күн бұрын
First thing they would have had to settle in court would have been defining “reasonable” in which case - considering he was willing to do the job for anyone else from the Brooklyn Brawler on up - Bret likely would have won. Once he punched Vince it was all moot though.
@JohnLancaster-i2o2 күн бұрын
It would be really difficult to believe that if Shawn had said what he did to Harley Race or a Roddy Piper that they would have put him over after that.
@rc8657Күн бұрын
And Brett didn't want to drop it this came from Jim cornette who was there Brett wanted to walk out the next night and had the belt over as Jim cornette said you might as well take a piss in the ring
@concerta564 сағат бұрын
The host was wrong on both questions
@TORHABSFAN12 күн бұрын
Bret was wrong and nine of the other stuff matters. You are bit a real champion. The belt is not real its a prop. You're a actor play your role as it was written on the script. I never hear Joe Pesci claim he was screwed in good fellas by getting whacked.
@mandyfox97802 күн бұрын
Bret it's still real to me 🤣
@michaelwade91702 күн бұрын
Your actually wrong Shawn Michaels is my all time favorite wrestler & he's the Goat in Wrestling but Shawn Michaels did not have an affair with Sunny in 95 96 Sunny was having an affair with Shawn Michaels behind Chris Candidos back Sunny & Chris Candidi were high school sweethearts But Sunny had a Crush on Shawn Michaels but every Girl did back than Cause Shawn Michaels was a Pretty Boy back than! Chris Candido was very strick of Sunny back than like how Macho Man was with Elizabeth But Sunny had the affair with Hbk behind her Man Chris Candidos back
@whidoineedthis2 күн бұрын
He atoleoney from black people in Mississippi and still outta jail. Go figure
@MrSheckstr3 күн бұрын
Takes about 30 seconds to figure out a way to ensure that Raw goes the way Bret promised Vince and have a Sunday Night Finish that goes the way Bret wanted. Saturday pretape a promo of Bret handing over the title to Commissioner Jack Tunney (or whoever what the fictional Boss at that time) then announce an open ladder match for the title as the main event for Raw…. With that tape in the Can you let Bret have the match he wants Sunday night, but have someone at ringside take possession of the belt at the start of the match and hustle it back stage…. That way if Bret Balks at anything on Raw you have that Video to announce it , you have the belt in your possession, so no matter what Bret hart refuses to do on Monday night, he can’t prevent that match from happening. HBK gets the title, but Bret can always tell himself he didn’t drop it to HBK and IF bret returns you have that in your playbook for a return match
@corporatemcmahon28152 күн бұрын
Come on, Gentleman?? Move on! MOntreal seriously? How old is that now? 25 or 30 years? Move on! You had your time speaking up.
@GoldenEraNetwork2 күн бұрын
@@corporatemcmahon2815 we were covering November and December 1997. Should we just ignore one of the most significant events in wrestling history?
@corporatemcmahon28152 күн бұрын
@@GoldenEraNetwork Oh, you make videos by months?? I didn't knew the screwjob happened in november/december. I thought it was in the summer somewhere. By the way: I still have the classic WWF Ted Dibiase action figure! Please take this into the account when you answer me ;)
@brenthatcher5748Күн бұрын
Bret lost the belt to Shawn twice. Shawn never lost to Bret. He was just smarter.
@Tiredtonsofclay2 күн бұрын
It was a work.
@65if20072 күн бұрын
I think so.
@jethro19632 күн бұрын
So when is the payoff? I'm still waiting.
@Tiredtonsofclay2 күн бұрын
@ the concussions suffered at the hands of Goldberg likely ended any hope of that. Probably the reason Bret still holds onto so much resentment. Probably lost close to 10 million with that one kick to the head.
@65if20072 күн бұрын
@@jethro1963 There was the 2010 match between Hart and McMahon -- probably delayed by ten years or so due to the concussion and Owen's death. There are all the other reduxes of the screwjob engaged in by both McMahon and Hart. Hart was not too traumatized by the Screwjob to refrain from participating in a Chicago version with his niece. There is the fact that the original Screwjob enabled BH to enter WCW with tremendous heat after it happened -- too bad that WCW didn't know how to utilize it. But Hart has acknowledged that he did enter WCW with tremendous heat because of the Montreal Screwjob, and he has castigated WCW for misuing him and not taking advantage of it. So wait no longer Jethro. And -- although it's getting old -- there is also whatever capital might yet be gained from the Screwjob in the future.
@hectorhector46173 күн бұрын
A work
@markant95343 күн бұрын
No way anyone could be sure.
@jeff-ds2pr2 күн бұрын
Normally I would say yes, but Bret is such a mark for himself, who knows. I think it was Scott Hall who said Bret was more concerned about carrying a fake belt around his waist over how much money he made.
@65if20072 күн бұрын
@@jeff-ds2pr That's just it. It was such a well-composed work and Bret is such a mark for himself that he could very well have worked himself. People have an extraordinary capacity for self-deception. It's also possible that there was a mutual misunderstanding == Vince thinks that Bret has agreed to the ending and Bret doesn't think he agreed to that. But there's a KZbin video in which he says, "I was always willing to do business, and if they said, we're going to screw you as a work, I would have been open to it."
@OfficiallZenFN2 күн бұрын
Bret screwed Bret plain n simple
@fmthebaron2 күн бұрын
Ted's right that it's Vince's company so he can do whatever he wants just like any other sport with a Billionaire in charge. Vince pushed both Shawn and Bret as the top guys and made them both Millionaires so Bret should be grateful for that. If Bret never went to the WWF, chances are he wouldn't of become a star at all.
@robertbluestein78003 күн бұрын
The idea Bret wouldn't ''drop'' the belt in his own 'home' country, only to do it the NEXT night on RAW is complete nonsense. THAT RAW was actually in TORONTO, Also in Canada. Why does Bret continue to make this such an issue, it is clearly a lie.
@Drummer82822 күн бұрын
After Shawn said he wouldn’t be willing to put Bret over, Bret said he’d drop the belt to anyone on the roster in Montreal except for Shawn….unless Shawn put Bret over in Montreal, then Bret would return the favor the next night on Raw. It really didn’t have much to do with Montreal or Canada as Bret was willing to lose to anyone other than Shawn unless Shawn put Bret over first.
@richardstetson82212 күн бұрын
I thought Bret's idea was that he wanted to vacate the title on Raw the next night not actually lose it to anyone I think I saw it in one of the docs but idk wich one so I just looked up Montreal Screw job and it says he offered to surrender the title to Vince on Raw the next night in Ottawa
@Drummer82822 күн бұрын
@@richardstetson8221 I believe that was one of many scenarios discussed since Vince wasn’t agreeable to Bret dropping the belt to anyone on the roster not named Shawn or having Shawn lose to Bret before Bret loses to Shawn. I dunno if Vince thought Bret would beat Shawn then not honour his end and refuse to lose to Shawn the next night? But even if that’s what Vince was worried about, why not just have Bret lose to Undertaker or someone else like Bret suggested? Bret has said that by the time Survior Series ‘97 rolled around, Bret had already fulfilled all the dates required on his contract and didn’t even need to show up in Montreal. In hindsight, that’s what he should have done - the same thing Ric Flair did back in ‘91: take the belt to the other company because he wasn’t obligated to stick around.
@AmericanCombatAssoc2 күн бұрын
Not a screwjob a total work
@ATFjames3 күн бұрын
At least Marcus sees that the truth is happening to be a large extenuating circumstance.
@crownprincesebastianjohano70693 күн бұрын
Marcus missed a major point in Bret's favor: Bret had a creative control clause in his last contract with Vince, and that Vince orally agreed to allow Bret to drop the belt later. This promise was caught on film. So Vince knowingly broke the contract. Ted is incorrect this time, it wasn't just business.