Take a shot every time Meltzer says “like” or “y’know” and you’ll be dead by the time he finishes 3 sentences.
@trtorbelfort11 ай бұрын
And you know like I just like feel so bad you know like
@Tom_Van_Zandt10 ай бұрын
Double down on taking a shot every time Cornette says some for of the word "fuck" and you'll be dead in 3 words.
@666Amadeus99910 ай бұрын
Take a shot every time Russo says ''bro''
@michaelhalliday39510 ай бұрын
Worse than my teenage daughter 🤦♂️
@audiosurfarchive6 ай бұрын
People talk differently than you, me and the milkman who's banging the neighbors wife.
@HuwhyteMan Жыл бұрын
I will forever be grateful that Jim was a meticulous record keeper! Really helps immerse you in these stories and paint a complete picture.
@timburr445311 ай бұрын
he may very well be Americas best pure wrestling historian
@NobodysGh0sT12 күн бұрын
Amen to that!
@trollge9567 Жыл бұрын
listening to Cornette describe the Screwjob as he watched it backstage is the literal representation of watching or hearing an acccurate play-by-play description of a massive trainwreck.
@gastonphalange4 жыл бұрын
I have short attention span, but Jim Cornette is the only human being I could listen to for hours and not get tired of
@TheArgoBots4 жыл бұрын
Damn too many times a week i wake up and he's STILL speaking. TOTALLY worth listening
@sese62274 жыл бұрын
Same... it's rare I can listen to someone talk for 2+ hours. Corney always keeps it entertaining though, he definitely has the gift for gab.
@DarksaberForce3 жыл бұрын
Him and Joe Rogan
@phillyriq9463 жыл бұрын
I agree
@ammagnolia3 жыл бұрын
I wanna hear him read the Bible
@dannyh59374 жыл бұрын
I haven't watched wrestling since the mid 2000's, but came across these Jim Cornette videos and podcast during quarantine and I am so glad I did. These podcasts have helped me get through these past couple of weeks with a smile on my face. Thank you, Jim Cornette, you're a legend.
@Batony4 жыл бұрын
Same here lol
@flameblade51274 жыл бұрын
Yup. I stopped in 2009 when Jeff left and the pg era went to shit. I came back because he returned, and it turns out I didn’t miss much in between.
@dirtmcgirt82694 жыл бұрын
@@flameblade5127 '13 is a really good year. That's about all ya missed.
@kylericciardi25174 жыл бұрын
Yep. Cornette is top shelf. Found him again in 2019 on a trip to Florida.
@BRUISERBROWNBRAND4 жыл бұрын
I liked 06-09 too
@NuclearRicecake5 жыл бұрын
Jim Cornette is a legend, I could listen to him all day on any topic. I've lost count of all the videos I've watched of him shooting on everyone and everything. Great video.
@gripsimpson3 жыл бұрын
I've gotta admit: i Would liked to have seen Jim Cornette with that WCW Title over his shoulder.
@maxwelljacobfreedom3 жыл бұрын
Until he talks about politics and completely ignores the other guy touching kids
@doc80133 жыл бұрын
@@maxwelljacobfreedom another embarrassing comment from you on another Cornette video. Your obsession is equally humiliating. Just WOW.
@heathmcrigsby2 жыл бұрын
I could listen to him on any topic except politics. Dude has true TDS.
@wingerding2 жыл бұрын
@@heathmcrigsby lol yup. It seems hard for some to shake!!
@SneedPatch2 жыл бұрын
I could listen to Corny talk about anything wrestling-related all day. The guy’s passion for and knowledge of the business is unparalleled
@jeremybayne58952 жыл бұрын
eat your own fanny!
@zippyrodriguez96324 жыл бұрын
The behind the scenes political soap opera of wrestling is absolutely fascinating even if you have no interest in headlocks and pile drivers.
@m.night_schlongislong4 жыл бұрын
Honestly. I never watched wrestling growing up. Now after coming across Cornette's podcast I find myself watching wrestling from the time periods he talks about and it's amazing knowing what went on behind the curtain.
@Ottophil4 жыл бұрын
I hate wrestling. I’m 40 and always mocked the fans. The other day someone said Trump fans are trying to maintain kayfabe even though they know hes a heel. I had to look those terms up. Now I’m a talk is jericho fan, i saw all the episodes of dark side, its a rabbit hole for sure
@michelledavidson81904 жыл бұрын
I'm new to wrestling & I love these podcasts.
@Kloppsserialbottlers4 жыл бұрын
I love pile drivers.
@dirtmcgirt82694 жыл бұрын
That's so fukn awesome to hear. Holy shit. I thought there was no way people who weren't fans of wrestling would ever become fans anymore.
@ruggie.742 жыл бұрын
Cornette is probably the best verbal storyteller (backstage drama) in the history of the business. He is right up there in the top 5 in terms of wrestling stories (works) too.
@honkeykong40495 жыл бұрын
The whole ordeal, including the aftermath with what happened to both Owen and Bret, is like a great Greek Tragedy.
@PopOutPaulie4 жыл бұрын
It seriously is. What's even worse is how Vince sabotaged Bret's character on the way out.
@darthpagan764 жыл бұрын
You know what? You are correct in your statement. It never dawned on me until reading your comment.
@saj84 жыл бұрын
@@PopOutPaulie And Bischoff sabotaging Bret's WCW career as well.
@PandaWeight3 жыл бұрын
its more tragic tho
@ammagnolia3 жыл бұрын
I honestly think what coulda happened was Corny actually did come up with a finish as a double cross and it stuck with Vince. Then later Hunter says his whole, 'if he doesn't wanna do business, well make him' as a response to what they should do as the finish... The story according to Shawn and HHH and Vince. I doubt Russo has anything to do with it. I'm sure once Hunter added his input, Vince was like.... Damn it, we're doing it. We're fuc*#ng doing it!!!
@josephmatthews76982 жыл бұрын
I was at Kemper when Owen died. Absolutely breaks my heart to know he was planning to be a firefighter after the wrestling thing fizzled out. What a good dude who deserved so much better.
@jimreily75382 жыл бұрын
Absolutely right
@josephmatthews76982 жыл бұрын
@The Game Mole Couldn't agree more. His death will be etched in my memory forever. The tragedy of the Hart family is overwhelming and the more I learn about him as a man instead of a public figure the more I realize how good of a person he is. Besides his stone cold botch which was an accident I haven't seen anyone have a bad word to say about him. Just a really solid dude dedicated to his family.
@wingerding2 жыл бұрын
We would have been happy to have him as a firefighter in our hometown of Calgary, Alberta, Canada, Homebase of the legendary "Stu Hart's Wrestling Dungeon" and all its legendary graduates! 🇨🇦🍁🇨🇦
@mox193802 жыл бұрын
funny bret wanted to be a firefighter before he became a wrestler and only got in the ring to help his dad's promotion. I always thing how incredible Owen would've been in the ring in '99 with Benoit, Guerrero, Malenko, Jericho. When they finally moved away from huge guys and on to great in-ring workers. Imagine the matches he could've had with those guys
@cjvaye992 жыл бұрын
@@mox19380 and Kurt Angle
@TheHarv682 жыл бұрын
Jim being cordial with Meltzer is the craziest part of this omnibus
@CheezyBallsTrippa Жыл бұрын
I think this was before Jim had his falling out with Dave
@randycrawford1132 Жыл бұрын
@@CheezyBallsTrippait was
@lillagahnavich7700 Жыл бұрын
yeah check the date...this was way before he started sucking off Tony, Kenny and the Bucks for their weekly AEW shows, he starts falling out with Meltzer about the end to middle of the next year when Meltzers bias is too strong to ignore for Corny
@JJbm4233 Жыл бұрын
OK you really gotta understand this Jim…… How are any of us stampede wrestling hard-core like the Stiff Von Eric’s and Bill Watts realistic wrestling, and not love Brett Hart! He will drop the undertaker undertaker will drop it to Shawn Michaels problem solved!!! This is the one and only time I will say this because I love Jim Cornette BUT fuck you, Jim!
@ryancorrigan4149 Жыл бұрын
@@lillagahnavich7700 Meltzer was already praising Kenny and The Bucks big time in NJPW. I think it's more about AEW. AEW literally ruined Corny. I don't care that he hates AEW, I expected he would, but it's all he ever talks about now. Just constant bitching and moaning about the same topic over and over. And if anyone likes that product then he bitches about them too. Each video becomes more and more unwatchable. I checked out a video that according to its title was supposed to be him having a watchalong of an old Royal Rumble... a 3.5 hour video and no kidding, for the first 2 hours HE BITCHED ABOUT AEW! It's sad.
@mr.mirchenstein65493 жыл бұрын
I could listen Jim talk about double crosses and vintage old school wrestling history all day long! I would love to hear more about the really early days. There’s just so many unknowns & cool, interesting & incredible stories.
@kyrofletch71892 жыл бұрын
So interesting hearing Dave & Cornette speaking together for once on a topic lol
@inarar53342 жыл бұрын
I think this was one of the last times they were publicly cordial to each other, because the DSOTR that covered Montreal was aired around the same time the rift over AEW and The Elite was starting to widen.
@marceledel86195 жыл бұрын
The best point Jim made was how everything went to hell after Montreal: Many careers ruined, an entire industry turned inside-out, and 2 tragic deaths in the immediate years that followed.
@roobear785 жыл бұрын
thats not a true reflection of what happend,im a big jc fan but he has a one sided view of history most of the time and also there is evidence of him flip flopping on occasion as well.yes years later wcw would go under and so on and so forth but thats buisness in genral,some others would add that the attitude era brought about the biggest success wwf had,with austin,the rock and such and took buisness to the greatest heights its seen! granted its severly downturned these days but again that could have and has happend before multiple times and long before montreal!As for the deaths tragic but again jim beats on about owens death and how he should never have been up there when he himself took massive risks in scaffold match's in jcp! could have easily died in the one where wrecked his knee but did it willingly and not just for the ppv's im pretty sure it was on the bash and on the subsuqent bash tours they did as well! montreal changed the buisness no doubt,but it certainly never went to hell,that come a good decade after
@marceledel86195 жыл бұрын
Yeah, my bad, That was my poor interpretation of it all.
@roobear785 жыл бұрын
@@marceledel8619 i dont think its a poor interpritation, everything you said is true,it just didnt happen because of or following montreal like jim thinks it did! sure for jim and traditional followers of wrestleing it may seem that way but the truth is outside the bubble society was well on the way to being edgy,gritty,full of attitude and everything else wrestling went on to be, the same year montreal happend a white guy from michigan with blonde hair was propelled to international stardom with the slim shady album,just to give a bit of persepctive to things! i love jim he's a smart,funny and talented guy and you dont have to agree 100% with someone to enjoy there work.
@ennbee20515 жыл бұрын
Who?! Owen and Doink?
@russoswerve39744 жыл бұрын
It kickstarted the start of the best era of wrestling (1998-2007) and made Mr McMahon the greatest villain and helped Austin become the wrestler of the decade
@adamrasmussen99394 жыл бұрын
<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="101">1:41</a>:00 I know. I was in grade 9. I had a Goldberg shirt. My friends all had Austin 3.16 shirts. I played it off like all the cool shirts were gone....but I picked it out. I *CHOSE* IT.....and it failed me...
@theungreatkahli4 жыл бұрын
Its okay. Goldberg was over as hell, even to my WWF/E fan friends.
@kenrickkahn3 жыл бұрын
Boy Goldberg was over as hell! You had the coolest shirt.. 3 shirts that was cool.. Stone Cold, NWO and Goldberg..
@elizabethmccleary73313 жыл бұрын
@@kenrickkahn mick foley destroyed my elementary school
@ukrbs063 жыл бұрын
At that time, you did got go wrong with Goldberg
@theblake53563 жыл бұрын
@@ukrbs06 Yes he did. To serious fans, Goldberg was a cheap Austin knock-off.
@sese62274 жыл бұрын
Bret dropping the belt to Austin would've been a HUGE mistake. It was wayy too soon, Austin was still building momentum & when he took it off Shawn in 98, w Tyson counting 1,2,3 at Wrestlemania was absolute perfection!
@BeeBumper3 жыл бұрын
Taker made the most sense. But they didn't do it.
@Rschr1013 жыл бұрын
Shame it couldnt have been Bret dropping the title to Austin at Mania 14.
@jamaali23582 жыл бұрын
would have been better than the boring fast count match
@paulcolston99635 жыл бұрын
Can we please get Jim Cornette in to the wwe hall of fame
@Charsi_Escobar5 жыл бұрын
Caitlyn Jenner will have her first period before that happens.
@SundayMorningRunner5 жыл бұрын
@@Charsi_Escobar Nah. He'll get there. But he will be long gone when it happens.
@devilswrestlingreviews66835 жыл бұрын
He's gotta endorse Trump first :)
@1978mackdaddy5 жыл бұрын
@@Charsi_Escobar 😂
@tedgal19845 жыл бұрын
Just for the speech
@hydroguy69273 жыл бұрын
This man belongs in the WWE Hall of Fame. His fingerprints are all over wrestling history.
@AkrimTabbouli3 жыл бұрын
How is he not? I didn't know that!
@AHMED-ly2ml3 жыл бұрын
He is a library of wrestling. He lives , breathes, eats and shits wrestling. Can't believe he ain't in the hall of Fame
@broncobalboa3 жыл бұрын
wwe hof aint worth shit
@badmoon7103 жыл бұрын
Trust me, Jim don’t care about being in the wwe hof. Lol he’s got no problem not being in it
@midnightmoviecult74143 жыл бұрын
@@badmoon710 would he enjoy it? Absolutely. Would he prefer it be him and the midnights? Positively. Does he lose sleep over it? No
@djkokolo17873 жыл бұрын
The only person I can listen to talk about wrestling this long.....thank you Jim.
@jeffreyriley87425 жыл бұрын
With his knowledge of wrestling history, it makes perfect sense that Jim would be the one to give the idea for the finish.
@wingerding2 жыл бұрын
I believe he got the idea from a couple of matches he worked.
@whobitmyname3 жыл бұрын
Anybody else grateful that Jim would have been around in Stamford for those few key years and have all this inside stuff?
@radio_nowhere4 жыл бұрын
3 hours isn't enough for this topic with these two talking about it. Loved it. 👍🏾 10/10.
@12345Yeah3 жыл бұрын
@Mike Jones 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 sure thing pal
@thehighjedi51092 жыл бұрын
Some of the best moments on Jim’s podcasts is when he manages to make Brian just bust up laughing. 😆 Wow this was back when Jim and Dave were still friends and Dave was still half way lucid.
@inarar53342 жыл бұрын
Or when Jim invokes Heenan to get Brian to invoke Gorilla Monsoon and his various "will you stop!" reactions.
@JRoundAbout2 жыл бұрын
I almost forgot uncle Dave was on the podcast, thought I was extra extra high.
@mosskey Жыл бұрын
4 years ago?
@TravelatorH8r9 ай бұрын
I listen to this Omnibus once a year, this is the best story ever told in wrestling.
@Patrick-ud3vu2 жыл бұрын
When Jim Cornette says someone else takes wrestling too serious, you know that’s next level!!
@wingerding2 жыл бұрын
He didn't mean that he was taking wrestling too serious, he meant that he was taking life too seriously.
@JennaLeigh Жыл бұрын
@@wingerding he literally followed up with 'he took himself and the business too seriously".
@UltimateSushiLord Жыл бұрын
@@JennaLeigh though jim would say on a more recent ep that bret was in the right to take the business seriously after watching some of his matches from his A&E bio
@JennaLeigh Жыл бұрын
@@UltimateSushiLord definitely! I remember hearing Cornette say that he used to think Bret took it too seriously, now he finds it refreshing.
@westsideflyer7559 Жыл бұрын
Bret took it pretty serious. The thing I've heard from more than one source: "Bret is a mark for himself."
@TaylorComstock4 жыл бұрын
Understandable, but every time I’ve seen Jim talk about Owen Hart, he sounds on the verge of tears
@sese62274 жыл бұрын
Watch the Dark Side of the Ring on Owen. He was crying....sad stuff.
@darthdestructor9273 жыл бұрын
@@sese6227 owen was supposed to get the game gimmick and be the main heel of the wwf along with triple h who was going to be the cerebal assasin gimmick but owen ended up dying..owen was supposed to come off down and then do a work shoot promo about how hes gonna game everyone...unfortunately he passed before that....
@momentarystudies29513 жыл бұрын
Corny
@MichaelWilliams-so1pq3 жыл бұрын
Jim cared and was friends with a lot of these guys. Bobby Eaton was a really good guy by all accounts and hearing him talk about Mr. Eaton almost brought me to tears.
@edwardcorey10713 жыл бұрын
Jim managed Owen you travel with the man become friends plus Owen was liked he'll loved by all the boys he!l I cried I was 14 but they were buds
@Stonewall294 жыл бұрын
Bischoff being called out on his “I never offered Bret 2.8m in 96” by Jim (who saw the contract as did Vince) and Dave is serious vindication for Bret. Bischoff is and always will be a liar.
@rysonthomas85513 жыл бұрын
Shut the f up.. You shit head
@hihaters20044 жыл бұрын
Jim killed Diesels title run so effortlessly 😂
@MaxxCoyote4 жыл бұрын
@Cas van der Wal Vince is obsessed with Size, and after the steroid trial, Nash was still 320.
@JuniorRodriguez-nk6rq4 жыл бұрын
They say when Diesel found out he was getting the strap he tore his quad
@sese62274 жыл бұрын
To be fair, Diesel didn't exactly have a plethora of heels to go up against either. I'm not saying he was a great champ, by any means, but the company as a whole, at that time, was floundering.
@llynellyn4 жыл бұрын
@@sese6227 I still find it funny that instead of building Bulldog up to main event level to be a viable opponent for Diesel they gave Diesel a losing streak to make it look like a mid carder could beat him, genius level booking >.>
@steveg22513 жыл бұрын
Diesel killed Diesel
@keithhensley70615 жыл бұрын
Just some fascinating stuff here.Seems like this story will never get old 20 yrs+ after the fact
@URestURust2 жыл бұрын
So true----it's 2022 and im still binging on old-school WWE stuff as if it happened yesterday. It doesn't get old.
@sgord0513 жыл бұрын
This a great piece of Jim's brilliance, I can listen to him non-stop!!!!!
@thedoctor3528 Жыл бұрын
<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="0">00:00</a> DSOTR Discussion (JCE 279) <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="3547">59:07</a> Discussion with Dave Meltzer (JCE 280) <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="61">1:01</a>:27 Double Cross & Expose History <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="75">1:15</a>:19 DSOTR <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="81">1:21</a>:40 Real reason for screwjob <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="91">1:31</a>:52 Bret in WCW <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="102">1:42</a>:33 Jim came up with the finish <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="114">1:54</a>:21 Who else knew? HHH Knew <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="129">2:09</a>:25 Montreal Aftermath (JCE 281)
@michaelnemeth52423 жыл бұрын
I don't understand why there are thumbs down for this... its incredible insight.
@wingerding2 жыл бұрын
I'm guessing the people who think it's a conspiracy don't like Jim's rationality and direct honesty.
@brianhyatt39303 жыл бұрын
This podcast got me from San Antonio to College Station. For that, thank you gents!
@christopherjamesboudoir2 жыл бұрын
Jim Cornette is a master story teller. He just gets you interested, and you love listening to him.
@stephentrout78795 жыл бұрын
Foley no-showing bc one of the wrestlers got screwed , bless him! xD
@christophergargaro9595 жыл бұрын
Stephen Trout Cornette’s reasoning to Foley on why he should come back was perfect, reminding him that he walked out because a multi millionaire owner screwed a star wrestler who was going from making $1.5 million a year to $2.5 million and another star making $750K a year participated in it. So by walking out and showing solidarity, were either of those two guys going to give Foley any of that money? And as Cornette said - he was back the next night. Also he was dead on in saying Foley was right if this were a face vs heel situation...but this was a heel program. There were no babyfaces.
@Lafe Denton This isn't about bravery though, this is about perceiving a wrong and trying to do right, when the reality of the situation was that everything was wrong and no right could be done.
@leburz4 жыл бұрын
@@christophergargaro959 Hitman was a face in Canada, heel in the states. HBK was a heel in Canada, face in the states, and it was QUITE clear at the time. (Shawn sticking the Canadian flag in his nose, wiping his butt with it, etc.)
@jackrussell30844 жыл бұрын
@@christophergargaro959 Cornette should be interpreted as an unreliable narrator (like every other wrestling personality) and not the word of God. He has had a lot of time to consider the "facts" in light of history and how to paint a positive image of himself.
@markkeegan75355 жыл бұрын
Love the omnibus presentations. Its like binge watching whole seasons of your favorite shows on netflix. In the documentary Russo takes credit for coming up with finish and a few minutes later Russo state he wishes he could have come up with that finish. Not sure if it was an editing mistake or Russo contradicted himself.
@darklordojeda3 жыл бұрын
The latter.
@jonathanmiranda454710 ай бұрын
Maybe both? Lol!
@derekeagles3773 жыл бұрын
Jim is such a legend. And grossly underappreciated
@davidjames9014 Жыл бұрын
Yep, and usually by those who aren't smart enough to understand his deep intellect and cultural reference
@derekeagles377 Жыл бұрын
@@davidjames9014 hear hear good sir
@BossFinale3 жыл бұрын
2 years late, but holy shit. Jim Cornette came up with it. Awesome podcast cornette. Thanks for the insight! I hope this podcast blows up even more.
@wingerding2 жыл бұрын
Hell's yah brother! Better late than never!
@YujiNakaSonic10 ай бұрын
Re listening to this it’s absolutely surreal to have Dave on the show
@emprodabob3 жыл бұрын
Jim Cornette sparked the attitude era with a "What if"
@Jyoelmejor5 жыл бұрын
I can listen to Cornette forever..
@Kloppsserialbottlers4 жыл бұрын
You haven't thought this comment through.
@HighAFPod12063 жыл бұрын
Omg me as well. I listen to him everyday hours at a time
@JAG2143 жыл бұрын
@Ct Tims It up to 89 now
@elizabethmccleary73313 жыл бұрын
He needs to make a history of wrestling documentary series and go through all his favourite things from his collection and some of his favourite wrestlers from all the different decades of wrestling and allow him to book random events ... I need more of his philosophies
@eseria75505 жыл бұрын
When Dave talked about Bret calling him after his mom had a stroke, I kinda choked up. Thats just a genuine nice story
@JofoInTheRing2 жыл бұрын
There still are some good stories with good people out there after all ! 💪
@nikcorbosiero93394 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate hearing Jim tell stories
@potatomcgee63133 жыл бұрын
The fact that Vince respected and took back in Foley after he was the only one that no showed shows that Foley is the greatest and Vince knew he fucked up
@jeyDsixx185 жыл бұрын
“We could do 3 hours if I had the voice” -Jim Cornette at the start of podcast ....podcast proceeds to go 3 hours
@TheJhar225 жыл бұрын
It's a compilation of previous podcasts.
@medes55975 жыл бұрын
It's a compilation of three separate podcasts...
@pearcemark25 жыл бұрын
John Doe as someone who listens to podcasts at work to stave off boredom, I quite enjoy a marathon podcast
@brandonp34554 жыл бұрын
Omnibus was the key term.
@travishowell2904 жыл бұрын
Do you know what an omnibus is?
@ChuuchooChooseMe5 жыл бұрын
Jim and brian, keep up the great work!!!👍
@Dr1705 жыл бұрын
Travis Heckel is a modern day Da Vinci and all... but I sure wish Bret were holding his giant grisly chunk of Michaels' hair in the video artwork there.
@darksword47265 жыл бұрын
He did draw Bret/Shawn fight with clump of hair in hand in a previous episode.
@stueymorris5 жыл бұрын
Da Vinci? Really
@mrrickson35715 жыл бұрын
Who pulls hair? Hookers and bitches. Bret had an unfair advantage in a hair pulling fight by having the greasiest fucking hair in the history of Pro wrestling. You couldn't get any grip on that wet wet headed stringy crap.
@harrybrown40774 жыл бұрын
@@mrrickson3571 LOL hookers and bitches lol. 😂👍
@randyortonsbulge3 жыл бұрын
Yeah this artist sucks. He’s the original artist I preferred all the different art.
@zenbane18764 жыл бұрын
These talks are making the ongoing shelter-in-place during the 2020 Pandemic so much more pleasant!
@danbunn324 жыл бұрын
I'm not the only one who has been using the spare time to catch up on old Corny.
@wingerding2 жыл бұрын
Lol did it continue to be pleasant? 🤣
@TheBlindEye902 жыл бұрын
It happened in 2020? Wow thx for verifying the year.
@HonorinTreason3 жыл бұрын
This was fantastically interesting. One of the best talkers of all time.
@jackfr105 жыл бұрын
"It's me Hart, it's me Hart. It was me all along Hart".
@teamwipe8045 жыл бұрын
Awwwww SONOFABITCH
@jimdraven24324 жыл бұрын
Whether Cornette floated the idea or not, McMahon had the last decision whether to do it.this whole situation could've been avoided had McMahon just asked Bret to sign a document stating he wouldn't take the WWF title belt onto nitro or get sued for 7 billion lol
@mj-74444 жыл бұрын
Jim Draven It’s not that simple.Ted Turner, the opposition was a billionaire and a contract doesn’t mean shit and if you trusted the opponent the only opponent that is,Then you and the business will be in their hands.WCW takes Bret Hart and doesn’t do shit with him other than some cheating victories that meant nothing.
@AppalachianCryptidDoge4 жыл бұрын
Who's that Pokemon??!
@josephdelledonne20984 жыл бұрын
I remember when Shawn came out on Confidential admitting he was on it, and I was shocked. Something new comes up all of the time, now we find out it was Cornette's idea. Wow!
@Truckhead722 ай бұрын
Listening to this 5 years removed, so weird to hear Meltzer and Cornette talk so civilly 🤣
@TP_Gillz3 жыл бұрын
The entire "screwjob" was perfect for all parties involved, it helped bring eyes into the wwf and started the great villain McMahon and also made Brett look good by being screwed over and keeping his baby appeal. Too bad WCW didn't take full advantage of it... But that's on them
@gunnertlc77283 жыл бұрын
Just like the end to the 1979 Daytona 500. Opened people's eyes back up to the sport
@1joshjosh13 жыл бұрын
That's how I see it now and that's how I saw it at the time. We've all heard that Brett's feelings were hurt but good Lord he made a lot of money in WCW.
@MM-qi5mk3 жыл бұрын
It was all a work. No idea why Jim won’t admit it. Brett knew.
@ladistar3 жыл бұрын
@@MM-qi5mk damn for real, how do you know it was a work
@MrSniperfox293 жыл бұрын
@@MM-qi5mk Bret knew - Has never said anything about it being a work HBK knew - Has never said it was a work HHH knew - Has never said it was a work Hebner knew - Has never said it was a work Everybody in the entire WWF - has never said it was a work Some idiot on KZbin - duh it's a work, you're all being worked, I am so smart, S-M-R-T, I mean, S-M-A-R-T
@douglasjarnagan38355 жыл бұрын
Long story short: Vince didn't have the foresight to get the title off Bret before letting him negotiate a new contract with the competition, and then panicked when the new contract was signed. What an astute businessman.
@travismcdonald65764 жыл бұрын
Douglas Jarnagan I believe McMahon wanted the whole thing to happen and his goal was to spite Bret Hart.
@calamaty99634 жыл бұрын
Fnord Fnordington Trump is President and the dems don’t have a chance. Vince is rich from crappy wrestling. It is what it is.
@matthewrock47254 жыл бұрын
@Fnord Fnordington Vince grew up in a trailer lmao
@mylesa3654 жыл бұрын
I mean he’s a billionaire for a reason so I guess he is a pretty astute businessman
@douglasjarnagan38354 жыл бұрын
@SlimBack121 So Bret is supposed to drop the belt in Canada right before leaving for the competition? Any wrestler that would do such a thing is insane. All of the wrestling purists can talk about the 'time honored tradition', but people that say that don't understand why there are creative control clauses in wrestling contracts. It is so the wrestler's image isn't damaged on their way out the door. Bret tried to present Vince with a solution to dropping the title, but Vince declined because he was too frightened about Eric Bischoff announcing on live TV that the current WWF Champion had signed with WCW. It had nothing to do with Bret not wanting to do the right thing. The entire situation was Vince allowing for a bad situation to unfold and then becoming so paranoid with the situation that he felt he had to either damage Hart's character or publicly embarrass Hart to get him out of that situation.
@colinkelley60112 жыл бұрын
I could listen to cornee all day! Hilarious, well spoken and a smartass...the trio of all trios.
@wingerding2 жыл бұрын
The thing is that in this day and time you can listen to cornee all day if you want to!
@shoeskomania70665 жыл бұрын
Jim: How we gonna get the belt and get a DQ finish Vince: Yes
@shoeskomania70665 жыл бұрын
Ryan Lewis I still got 20 likes. Blow me, Bozo
@nathankirby46124 жыл бұрын
Sho Eskomania you’ve got 52 likes now. What are you going to spend them on?
@prposalx3804 жыл бұрын
@@nathankirby4612 your comment is golden. He was all bark, no bite.
@prposalx3804 жыл бұрын
@@nathankirby4612 if he got 57 likes and you got one (me), there must be alot of kids or brain dead people on here.
@GarrettWebster-mx5wx8 ай бұрын
Listening to this in 2024 . It’s sad to see how different the relationship is between Jim and Dave . I’m on Jim’s side but hearing 2 guys talk about something they love is always great
@jeffreyriley87425 жыл бұрын
I watched the documentary a little earlier. I loved it. I think everyone did a great job. I even liked Scott Hall's stuff.
@michelledavidson81904 жыл бұрын
Love Jim Cornette's podcast and it's been interesting to listen to.
@only1icon18015 жыл бұрын
Great upload, very informative and thorough with in-depth analysis of what went down and what could have been easily avoided
@Ben-cr3xy4 жыл бұрын
Vince blew off the "double cross" idea in person but Im positively sure that he took that idea right after Jim mentioned it and mentally ran with it.
@TheseBitchesWantNikes3 жыл бұрын
Definitely. You know the second Jim threw it out, Vince IMMEDIATELY started planning it out but had to take it off the table in front of the booking committee for show.
@wingerding2 жыл бұрын
Well no shit. He didn't just think up the exact same idea on his own a week later...
@AdemVoldy4 жыл бұрын
<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="375">6:15</a> "Shawn's career-ending knee injury didn't last that long." Haha, I love that.
@batmanwins45843 жыл бұрын
Yeah, except it's well documented that Shawn did have a knee injury and Jim let's personal animosity with Shawn cloud basic reasoning skills. People love to crap on Shawn relinquishing the belt, and these are usually the same people complaining WWE doesn't look after the health of their guys. He was injured. Could he have worked? Probably. Should he have? No!
@Zeke13793 жыл бұрын
@@batmanwins4584 funny how he managed to drop most of his titles without losing a match eh
@batmanwins45843 жыл бұрын
@@Zeke1379 No, he didn't. He did not drop most of his titles without being best.
@Rschr1013 жыл бұрын
Shawn was a crybaby, and the back injury was exaggerated too.
@silenttoxic7073 жыл бұрын
Hearing Dave on this show knowing their relationship now lol
@johncork93153 жыл бұрын
All your promo caricatures and advertisements are excellent
@TehSchwizz4 жыл бұрын
The Berliners sounds like an amazing mid 90's anti-American tag team.
@robertjameson27494 жыл бұрын
Yup. East & West Berlin with their joint move, The Wall Breaker.
@golfdadontherampageiv41634 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a donut
@sevenofcrows73 жыл бұрын
@@golfdadontherampageiv4163 I was thinking bagels.
@Riese793 жыл бұрын
@@golfdadontherampageiv4163 It is a Donut without the hole 😄 filled with Marmelade
@charlieprince86713 жыл бұрын
@@golfdadontherampageiv4163 underrated joke
@middleclassboardgamer4 жыл бұрын
One thing I never got back then. Jericho was on the come up in WCW when Hart went over, it seems like that is the first program that should have been worked back then. The luchadore style guy that had some mat skills vs the excellence of execution would have been so good.
@christophergargaro9595 жыл бұрын
I know several people have taken ‘credit’ for coming up with the Montreal finish but this is by far the most believable explanation. I would be surprised if it didn’t actually occur pretty much exactly like Jim says. Also can totally see Vince just looking at Jim after he shoots every detail about his screwjob idea and Vince just looking at him and saying “hmmph” and moving on 😂
@Janon484 жыл бұрын
Cornette story has also stayed the most consistent
@totallybored55264 жыл бұрын
Here’s what happened. Vince had a problem, he asked a few people what they would do and they all said “just screw him” and after trying everything else Vince went with what he was advised. The people who claim they told Vince to screw Bret probably did, whilst being unaware Vince asked several people for ideas and they said the same basic idea, so they aren’t necessarily lying.
@Gildedowlmedia3383 жыл бұрын
@@totallybored5526 I’ve always figured that Jim’s story happened, and McMahon disregarded it but Russo pushed it relentlessly and finally McMahon did it.
@12345Yeah3 жыл бұрын
@@totallybored5526 Oh you were there?
@FirefighterAliveJC3 жыл бұрын
According to the book Shawn wrote, it was HHH’s idea
@fuscinula5 жыл бұрын
<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="1990">33:10</a> "He's gonna turn him into Goddamn Karl Gotch overnight in a fucking hotel room" - Priceless quote.
@jonnydtyler4 жыл бұрын
‘97 was such a great year for the WWF.
@daedaethomas474 жыл бұрын
Yessss
@PGO_Gaming4 жыл бұрын
It was a better year for WCW
@A-L-o4 жыл бұрын
@@PGO_Gaming no it wasn't dumb fuck
@PGO_Gaming4 жыл бұрын
@@A-L-o You are familiar with the term "83 Weeks" aren't you? That is the term designated for the consecutive time WCW led the WWF in ratings. It started in the summer of 96' and lasted until the spring of 98'. THAT INCLUDES ALL OF 1997. EVERY SINGLE WEEK OF 1997, THE WWF LOST THE RATINGS WAR.
@PGO_Gaming4 жыл бұрын
@Fred Bizkit 1997 was a great year for wrestling fans, and the end of 97' was great for the WWF, but what wrestling fan doesn't know that WCW kicked their ass for almost two consecutive years? Can't make this stuff up.
@JWSeltzer11383 жыл бұрын
The "God damn you" at <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="2632">43:52</a> is the most wholesome, loving GD in the history of mankind
@TownieGirl19745 жыл бұрын
Travis Heckel's artwork gets better & funnier with each video.
@americafirst45855 жыл бұрын
And you are more gorgeous everyday
@mackwinter56375 жыл бұрын
@@americafirst4585 what a douche
@fuzzydunlop79285 жыл бұрын
@@mackwinter5637 The "America First" thing was your first clue. Hey, why is it America First if your president kisses the ring of the Saudi royalty and lets our loyal allies get fucked in the ass by a Turkish Ottoman wannabe? If it truly were "America First" we'd have bombed the fucking shit out of any Turkish vehicle larger than a unicycle on the wrong side of the Syrian-Turkish border. I know people who died because of your shitty president kowtowing to some Turkish dictator wannabe, and I know tons of American servicemen who fought side-by-side with Kurds and thought the same thing, that what we did hurts America and was a shameful betrayal. Maybe next time you want "America First" you don't vote for a conartist, you absolute mong. This is your fault. Next time you get the urge to vote, let it pass.
@johndoe8285 жыл бұрын
Nobody asked the U.S. military to go to Syria. They are there illegally under international law. The government of Syria doesn't want American troops there. Trump did say American troops were going to leave there at least twice. But since the American President is not really in charge of things, American troops are still there. The military industrial complex with their allies on wall street, the c.i.a and other intelligence agencies, the pharmaceutical corporations and other financial gurus run things. They control the over 90 % of the media who lie to Americans on virtually everything. The powers that be want Americans to fight amongst themselves, whether it be red state vs. blue state, young vs. old, rich vs. poor, white vs. black, democrat vs. republican. Americians need to realize that it is God who blessed America with great resources and they need to lose this sense of American superiority.
@wingerding2 жыл бұрын
@@johndoe828 huh? What are you going on about brother?
@AlphaDynamics223 жыл бұрын
Another interesting reflection: This speaks volumes to how much the belt meant back then. Part of the reason I can't see this happening again is because titles simply don't mean as much anymore.
@zlinedavid3 жыл бұрын
I believe Cornette. It all fits. Nobody else at that level within WWF at that time had the attention to detail regarding finishes other than him. Nobody on the planet knows more about wrestling history than him. And the fact that they took his idea and only did it halfway sounds about like Vince Russo-level execution.
@wingerding2 жыл бұрын
What parts of his plan did they not do? I think he said Russo wasn't involved though.
@RigbyismyFavCatever2 жыл бұрын
@@wingerding they brought attention to the fact that this wasn’t how the match was supposed to finish, it exposed the business. They were supposed to call for the bell and get out of there immediately and go off the air.
@cityguard4847 Жыл бұрын
@@RigbyismyFavCateverinstead of shutting the curtains they turned on the floodlights.
@chrishinton920910 ай бұрын
@@RigbyismyFavCatever I think that was probably Vince McMahon’s call. He probably didn’t trust Hebner to call for the bell.
@DarkSektori3 жыл бұрын
I've always respected Jim Cornette and my respect grew considerably after hearing him admit this about the Screwjob.
@oldironsides41072 жыл бұрын
It’s entertainment man. Nothing about wrestling is real. It’s just pure entertainment. His livelihood is podcast. He isn’t in wrestling for some reason. Entertainment entertainment entertainment And he’s great at it. Especially tje “screw job”.
@TheBlindEye902 жыл бұрын
@@oldironsides4107 nothing about wrestling is real huh? So the injuries aren't real, the slams aren't real, the chair shots to the body aren't real.... Way to look ignorant 🤡
@stephenlee87434 жыл бұрын
Funny listening to Jim and Dave trying not to cut each off when talking. Cause they’re so used to talking over their respective Bryans😂
@mrkipling22012 жыл бұрын
Funny hearing them talking to each other civilly!! Not like nowadays!!
@Hush_Money22 жыл бұрын
@@mrkipling2201 I miss their friendship tbh.
@tommymclaughlin32035 жыл бұрын
Excellent as always! Such great insight to an incident that is still talked about today!!
@MilMaska5 жыл бұрын
"It's unsafe for me to work here" - Shawn Michaels
@whtevr845 жыл бұрын
I think the term was "unsafe work environment", followed by Shawn throwing a clump of his own hair on Vince McMahon's desk...a present for Jim Cornette
@Jim-Tuner5 жыл бұрын
The response should have been: "Well Shawn. Life is full of consequences. If you want to run your mouth and mess with other guys women, we can't baby-sit you 24/7. You are 0 for life in fights Shawn. You remember upstate new york? When you hit on that girl in that bar and the one soldier, not 19 marines like you tell people, that one soldier on his own kicked your ass in that parking lot and put you in the hospital? We gave you bulldog as a babysitter that night and you let him, the guy we gave you as a bodyguard, get so high at the bar that he couldn't even stand up let alone protect your dumb ass. We made a big investment in you and it isn't working out. You are a messed up pill-head and your not worth all the drama. Just go home and take that hobag sunny & her cuck boyfriend Candido with you." And for Bret: "Bret. Wrestling isn't real. This is a business. You are not really a world champion and these are not real fights in the ring. If you don't understand that, have your dad explain it to do you. We gave you everything you said you wanted and its not enough for you. And honestly Bret, we don't need hair-pulling girl fights in the locker room between main event guys. Either grow up or get out."
@MarquisLeary345 жыл бұрын
@@Jim-Tuner Daaaaaayum, son. There wouldn't be a burn ward big enough to treat that!
@stephentrout78795 жыл бұрын
@@Jim-Tuner Who would you have on top afterwards? Not critizing but I can see why they perserveered with Shawn until 98 - not alot of prime top Talent available minus Taker and Austin and Owen.
@userjim835 жыл бұрын
Which is funny coz he risked getting an STI every time he banged Sunny
@B1oodshot275 жыл бұрын
Thank you Jim for making a point to clarify that Bret would have handled Vince in a real fight. What a joke that anybody thinks Vince would have the upperhand.
@totallybored55265 жыл бұрын
B1oodshot27 Vince is crazy which gives a person an advantage in a fight with someone who is sane
@B1oodshot275 жыл бұрын
@@totallybored5526 Lol, only somebody who knows they don't have an advantage try to pull the "crazy" card. Crazy doesnt mean fuck all. We are all crazy ;)
@Zeke13794 жыл бұрын
Bret would have broken Vince. Bret would have broken anyone in the locker room aside from maybe Shamrock.
@patrickmorrissey30844 жыл бұрын
@@Zeke1379 and Taker lol.
@DukeBlueDevilFan082 жыл бұрын
Bret would’ve put hands and feet on Vince Vince is just big he’s not agile nor athletic like Bret
@stevenkilboy13194 ай бұрын
It’s so wild to hear the difference of how Jim saw Dave in this interview at the beginning to where his opinion is now😂😂
@mikeyhawkins72684 жыл бұрын
His Vince impersonation is 💯🔥 thought he had the boss man there talking for a second
@NYGiants56805 жыл бұрын
Shawn Michaels looks more like Dave Meltzer than Dave Meltzer does in this pic.
@theungreatkahli4 жыл бұрын
"Ya know"
@CFC-19673 жыл бұрын
Been trying to finish listening to this video for 5 days in a row now 😂
@paulcolston99635 жыл бұрын
I could listen to jimmy all day everyday.
@oldironsides41072 жыл бұрын
Had the honor of serving him up a double of jack. It was just pee Jim said “ it’s piss it’s fucking piss” So respect for acknowledging you threw back 6 oz of a strangers piss Then I didn’t want to beat him up. So he threw I slipped knees his sternum In guillotine choked him. Peed on him when he was out for 20 seconds of so. Then bullied him on his way out as hes running his mouth then he’s brook a ketchup bottle and sprayed it all over him Then hes not in reality so he wound up and pretended he was going to punch me and then I starched him. Laidnhim clean out. Dumped pickled egg Brine on him and put several pickled eggs in his mouth. And he’s horrified when he came too. Then I just strong armed him tore maybe a 6 inch clean bald spot from the center of his head. He wasn’t even mouthy at Thisbe point he’s just pleading to stop. 😂
@timcloud19445 ай бұрын
Listening to the omnibus.... I never never ever would think that Mr. Cornette would have Dave Meltzer as a guest...
@sketchstevens58595 жыл бұрын
Cornette was spot on about Bruce Prichard. He admitted in his podcast that Vince told him that he never said anything about screwing Bret to protect "all of the boys including him"
@fuzzydunlop79285 жыл бұрын
I love the part where Jim stooges Bruce off for talking to Meltzer back in the day. Confirmed my suspicions that all of that "Something to Wrestle With" crap is a work to discredit Meltzer and present his own - massaged - narrative. Pinch of salt with that one, though morons have already swallowed his crap hook & line.
@sketchstevens58595 жыл бұрын
@@fuzzydunlop7928 Naw, I'm sure it's a shoot.
@adamrasmussen99394 жыл бұрын
He does a killer Vince impression
@JoseFlores-xc7wu5 жыл бұрын
Am getting my double dose of Cornette today am watching MLW while i am listening to this podcast
@BeeBumper3 жыл бұрын
Is that maple leaf wrestling?
@cyrus25463 жыл бұрын
Bret’s biggest mistake was agreeing to have a match with Shawn in the first place. In October Bret told Shawn “I’m happy to put you over at Survivor Series.” Shawn replied “I appreciate that but I wouldn’t put you over if the situation was reversed”. Immediately after this happened Bret should’ve went to Vince and said “I’m not having a match with Shawn under any circumstances. You can say whatever you want, I don’t care. I won’t step in the ring with him. Change the main event, put me in the ring with someone else and I’ll drop the belt. If you keep Shawn in the main event then I won’t show up.” Then Vince would have no choice but to back down like he did when Warrior threatened to no show SummerSlam 1991.
@mrkipling2201 Жыл бұрын
Could have dropped it back to the Undertaker. Or Austin if he was back working at that point??
@colerieger7300 Жыл бұрын
Bret basically did do that, stating he'd drop the belt to anyone in the company except for Shawn, going so far as to suggest dropping it to Brawler at MSG, Brawler had one a #1 contender battle royale for the next MSG show, after SS but before Bret left for WCW. Shawn wound up defending the belt against Brawler at MSG. I believe Bret's suggestions were Shamrock, Austin, Brawler or possibly Foley but the first 3 were definite suggestions.
@1stand4063 жыл бұрын
I just noticed that Travis has uncle Dave in a 1-star t-shirt lmao
@andrewisjesus5 жыл бұрын
Vince Russo hates Cornette, JR, and Prichard because they debunk his myth that he created everything on wwf tv in 98, 99. They actually tell you what creative at WWE entails. You assist Vince McMahon book his show. McMahon has final say, but he will take your ideas. This is why WWF had the exact same show for years after Russo was gone, and WCW was a shit show of soap opera, jerry springer angles with 2 minute wrestling matches. Every idiot jobber on the card had a storyline and had more tv time than. Their top card talent had no tv time and had to 123 kid job to them for "shocking swerves". It was the stupidest bullshit i have ever seen Me and my brothers were WCW NWA fans. We watched until 99, once the NWO elite started we left shortly after. When russo came in, the show was so bad we couldnt believe it. It went from the best product in summer of 96 through 97, to worse than WWF 95 in late 99-2000. When he left again, WCW was actually getting better in 2001, but he damaged their brand so much they were selling no matter what
@AgentZombieMan4 жыл бұрын
This has made me realize, that it is essentially totally justifiable to claim that Russo did indeed kill Owen Hart. Think about it: First Russo stooged on Bret, which may have been the reason that he was unable to get Owen to jump ship, then Russo was the one who insisted on The Blue Blazer descending from the rafters, which caused Owen's death
@batedanemone66804 жыл бұрын
@Jay T Not if you're under contract
@Adrian215 жыл бұрын
I'm glad Dave Meltzer brought up the fact that Bret agreed to drop the belt to HBK after Montreal. It seem that a lot of people aren't aware of that fact. All that talk about Bret refusing to do business just simply isn't true.
@locoloboxiii5 жыл бұрын
Bret refused simply to lose in a situation that would diminish him as champion or as a Canadian hero, at no time did Bret refuse to do business at all. But when a story needs to outsell whatever other story is going on, controversy makes $. Thus, they allowed that part to fade out since no one involved was pushing that fact. Matter of fact, only Shawn specifically referenced not doing business... when he told Bret he would never put him over.
@MaxxCoyote5 жыл бұрын
And, in Bret's book, he states that he told Vince that he would put over Austin, Undertaker, or Foley over IN Montreal. Then, to make a point, he stated that he would even put over the Brooklyn Brawler over for the title on Raw in the Garden (New York). But that he was NOT going to put over Shawn after all the shit Shawn had pulled previously.
@aaronneville11645 жыл бұрын
Well, In Bret's own 1997 documentary Bret goes into a private meeting with Vince and basically tells him he would like to "get through today"( which means not lose the title) and FORFEIT the title the following night live in Ottawa. That right there should tell you Bret had NO INTENTIONS of letting anyone beat him. If Bret got his way, he was going to head to WCW having never been beaten for the WWF championship. Whatever way you wanna look at it, Bret was only looking out for himself. That whole scenario Bret came up with only benefits him and essentially screws over the rest of the WWF roster. Considering Bret was raised in the wrestling business and his father ran a promotion, it's strange that Bret of all people would be selfish to that degree.
@only1icon18015 жыл бұрын
@@aaronneville1164 the creative control in Brets contract gave him every right to refuse any stipulation they offered him. Vince had plenty of time and other conclusions to do with Bret and could have done easily. It was a cowardly act from Vince and did not need to go down the way it did.
@aaronneville11645 жыл бұрын
@@only1icon1801 "Didn't need to go down the way it did"......couldn't agree more.....and the 2 people to blame are VINCE (for assuming Bret wouldn't be a huge mark for himself even on his way out, knowing Bret's personality for years) AND Bret Hart (for letting his pride, ego and personal feelings get in the way of simple wrestling business). "REASONABLE" creative control in no way equates to being able to "refuse any stipulation offered". Keep that in mind.....no case. The vast MAJORITY of those in the wrestling business who matter, are on record not faulting Vince at all for choosing to go the route he chose and do NOT sympathize with Bret Hart. Even the very few who did back then take exception to what Vince did, all would end up completely understanding Vince's situation and later agreeing with Vince. That is all the VALIDATION needed. Hell, there's even members of Bret's own FAMILY that don't agree with Bret in the situation and point to Bret's own ego costing him. Now that speaks volumes. Nuff Said
@ButIPoopFromThere2 жыл бұрын
I remember watching this.. I was 11.. hearing Jim tell this behind the scenes story is just mind blowing when you go from a child's perspective watching on TV and realizing how much really happened and the impact of it.
@Jacob-279611 ай бұрын
Listening to this while high is hell of a story 😭
@NomnomJawsnomnom4 жыл бұрын
Drinking game: Take a shot every time Dave Meltzer says "like".
@kevp64884 жыл бұрын
I would pay VICE money to watch that 6 hour raw footage of Cornette talking wrestling history.
@SmithCommaBenjamin3 жыл бұрын
I love how years later, WWE has once again re-wrote history and has tried to claim the Screwjob was HHH's idea...
@J.P.G.783 жыл бұрын
They love to make that guy more than he really is
@prentfaiyaz3 жыл бұрын
Tbf though it's plausible
@alexholbrooks44683 жыл бұрын
5 months after you comment... Jim has a wrestling IQ. Period. Vince is 😡😡😡😡 obsessed with entertainment, trying to come out the good guy. 😵😵 Corny remembered when this screwjob sort of was done first, but this was wayyyyyy worse because of a dumbass calling for the bell. 🤦
@Goliath691975 Жыл бұрын
No way would HHH have come up with that. I believe Corny 100% that it was his idea.
@carlmaclean3638 Жыл бұрын
I barely ever watched any wrestling but i could listen to jim all day
@ricstormwolf3 жыл бұрын
Well, for the longest time, Cornette kept his word. He said if the Montreal Screwjob was his idea, he wouldn't admit it in public. And until this documentary, he didn't.
@JasonTigno4 жыл бұрын
It’s crazy how one pitched idea from cornette that he didn’t think would be used ended up changing the pro wrestling business forever going forward