Ted Lasso - 2x8 Man City - Group Reaction

A devastating loss in the FA Cup Semis for Richmond, but Sam and Rebecca finally meet up and realize they've got chemistry in Season 2 Episode 8! The Normies review and discuss the episode after the reaction!
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[@Thenormies]

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[@DeadInsideDave]

repressed much

[@jeffrogers2180]

It's wrong on multiple levels.

[@walrus2515]

@jn4756Because “fuck” doesn’t have the same historical significance as the N-Word. Your comment isn’t the slightest “gotcha” that you think it is.

[@Crazyivan777]

As Roy comes to hug Jamie, Jamie flinches just a little bit, then sinks into it. He's still scared, but he finally trusts. It's a beautiful little detail.

[@fayesouthall6604]

Oh yeah that’s incredible! The music too. Is perfect.

[@Ccccc19]

Just to clarify for when you guys were saying the pitch might have been unfair on Richmond: Wembley is a neutral ground, it is used for big games such as cup semi finals and finals, no team plays in it regularly. And while pitch sizes can vary, during the regular season teams play each other two times, once at home and once away, so there is no disadvantage that way either. They just got hammered in this case because that's how much of a gap there is between teams at the top of the premier league and the division below them (which Richmond are now playing in after getting relegated in Season 1).

[@scottredding7357]

And different stadiums in other sports are varying sizes, like in baseball.

[@Krisburturion]

Also, Wembley is the home of the England National Team. It's a big deal for a player (especially an English one) to get the chance to play there. Since it's neutral it's only really used for important cup games, so not everybody gets the chance.

[@josephg3462]

Remember back during the dart game: Ted played Darts with his father every weekend at their local sports bar until his dad died when he was 16. Only now we learn HOW he died.

[@fayesouthall6604]

So sad.

[@elivi5391]

I think he hinted at it when he said his dad was harder on himself than on him

[@StarkiveL7]

I feel like the unethical implications of a therapist dating her patient is worse than Rebecca and Sam, but maybe that's just me.

[@jessicaross7288]

In America at least, a therapist is barred by the American Psychological Association from dating a patient or having sex with a patient until a minimum of two years (some states five years) from termination of therapeutic service has passed, or they will have their license to practice suspended or even revoked.

[@aquele4virou3]

Yes, Sharon and Ted is a HARD NO! Even if you stop seeing a patient, there’s like a timeline until it is ethical for you to date. As therapist, which is so personal, I am afraid it would be still be weird even after years and they are touching on that subject now in s3 which yikes. But Rebecca and Sam is very weird too, she literally owes him as a player and has power to decide his career and that is beyond the fact she met him as a teenager already as his boss.

[@sammy_1178]

@@aquele4virou3 I've never been to a therapist so ig I'm not very educated on why this would be wrong, could you elaborate?

[@aquele4virou3]

@@sammy_1178 Okay. For instance, it is established that a therapist (and generally, all health professionals) cannot really provide services for significant others and that includes family and close friends, because you are biased and you can be affected by those relationships outside of the professional one that will be established (for instance, a surgeon can’t operate on a family member because there are higher chances for mistakes due to distress). If we go to the basic principles of bioethics: autonomy, nonmaleficence, beneficence and justice. In summary, one shall respect the patient and their wishes, cause no harm, to what is best for them and what is fair in general (not prioritize anyone). A relationship between a patient and a therapist needs to be based on trust and to have in mind the benefit of the patient, the support needs to be impartial and unconditional. A therapist holds a great amount of power over a patient, they are there to guide you through vulnerability, to identify and modify harmful behaviors, to look through your traumas, all of it gives them a great deal of power that they should not use over you. It also needs to stay under privilege. Now, from the moment you established that sort of relationship, you are no longer equal, because you are trusting that professional to do all that: to benefit you and your health, to not cause you harm. To add a romantic element when the therapist has all that power over the patient is problematic. Now, some say after a few years, it should be fine, but I guess it would depend in the circumstances (maybe you two reconnected after no contact for years and the patient has evolved and moved on from the reason he searched for therapy in the first place, but I personally think there would always be an unbalance, because they know vulnerable parts of you in an analytical and professional capacity, and that can be used for manipulation). But yeah, while in therapy, to date your therapist is a huge professional breach and if a professional does this, they should lose their license. If you fall in love with a patient, you should terminate treatment with no intention of pursuing a relationship. Same if your patient fall for you. Even being friends is a fine line to walk. Sure, having a few moments outside of a professional environment wouldn’t necessarily be wrong, but you shouldn’t mix things too much. Lots of times your health is dependent on that person and it is their job to establish boundaries and to maintain things professional, no crossing lines.

[@arwyss]

Yeah… it’d be extremely fucked up for a therapist to date their patient. SUPER fucked up.

[@stellanass3314]

one of the things that's really well done about the scene between jamie and his dad is that in a lot of other shows, they would have tried to play that as a triumphant moment - a "wow, he's finally beating up his dad and overcoming his trauma" etc kind of moment. but in the reality of these situations - and his specifically - it's so tragic when you actually see it. he doesn't feel good - he doesn't feel vindicated, or triumphant, or powerful. he's confused, and hurt, and afraid, and has just been humiliated in front of his team. of course that isn't a happy moment for him. really impressive writing. also really impressive acting from phil dunster. everything from the microexpressions to the tiny flinch as roy's about to hug him. should've gotten an emmy for this season.

[@timslade5808]

One of the best episodes of the whole series

[@ghoulhexa6461]

The fact that Roy was Jaime's idol growing up made this feel that much special.Roy was his childhood hero, he has his poster on the wall (season one episode 4). When he finally met his hero in person as a teammate, Roy was old, washed and not the player anymore, he was disapointed

[@FermentingSmeg]

Wembley isn’t Man City’s stadium, that’s why Jamie’s in awe as well

[@ghoulhexa6461]

Wembley Stadium in London is one of the most iconic stadiums of all time. Its the place where the final of the FA CUP (first time played 1871/72) since 1920s is played. The Stadiums as seen english finals, World Cup Fianals, Champions League finals, european finals. It's the football temple and sometimes there are NFL games.

[@QuackAttack]

And to make it more clear for them, it doesn't belong to any one team. It is only reserved for such big events as you mentioned, and the only advantage Manchester City would have is the massive fanbase that will come to watch the match, thus boosting morale (hypothetically).

[@A-small-amount-of-peas]

​@@QuackAttackit belongs to the England national team who play all their home internationals there apart from the odd one or two games where they play at a top clubs stadium normally for a friendly fixture

[@MrAwkwardTurtlerp]

On penalty kicks the goalie has to guess a side to even have a chance of stopping it which is why he dove to the wrong side. You won’t have the reaction time to chase a good shot.

[@QuackAttack]

Also, the penalty was given after Moe's handball (handballs are penalties whether accidental or intentional)

[@jessicaross7288]

A discussion, in text, between two adults who are unaware of anything about the other person (age, class, race, etc.), is about as far away from grooming as you can get. Rebecca freaked out (somewhat understandably) but the things she was saying are the kinds of things we all say when we want to make a point and we're having outsized emotions - exaggerated, played to the extremes, so far off that it's comical. To call this grooming just waters down the meaning of the word to make it almost meaningless, and that takes away the word's power, which we *need* in actual cases of real grooming. Grooming requires an adult preying on a young person (usually underage), lying to them, isolating them from their friends, using the power imbalance to make their target trust and obey them and believe everything their groomer says. It's a cult of one, and the groomer is the cult leader. This is nowhere near anything resembling grooming.

[@sara-jayn]

Pat doesn’t care and doesn’t think this is grooming. We’ve all seen this behaviour before. He’s Butt hurt about men getting called out for the shitty behaviour towards women and he sees this as a point to score back. It’s very telling about what goes on in his head. He doesn’t give a shot about Sam nor think it’s grooming. It’s like racists who use the treatment of the lgbt community in Muslim countries to attack Muslims. They get to attack an ideology and be bigoted under the guise of being moral.

[@ameliacraiig4193]

Yes, it does weaken its power. The overuse of the word 'grooming', is maddening.

[@samatar6852]

"I ship them!!"bruh she's literally his therapist runa what are you going on about lmao. Between this and the rebecca thing these guys really do enjoy unethical af ships lol.

[@AudoPlay]

I feel like they (and a lot of people) kind of just see any moment of intimate connection between a man and a woman and interpret it as inherently romantic. So it's more like they see people connecting and then jump to "i ship it"

[@dancer004]

This episode always makes me cry. First because of Roy hugging Jamie and what it means for the two of them and their relationship. But then when we find out about Teds dad… I cried for about an hour after that the first time I watched it. My dad died by suicide when I was 10 so it his so hard every single time

[@AmberAHue82]

Pat is trying to talk about Power Dynamics, which can be problematic. If one person is in a definitive position of power over another (age, wealth, position), it creates a power dynamic where the "lesser" person in the relationship can feel pressured to comply. It is NOT the same thing as grooming, though.

[@douglas2938]

"Grooming" has come dangerously close to lose all meaning at this point, it's supposed to refer to unquestionably predatory behavior by one taking advantage of a minor over a period of time to only act on it afterwards and give it a veneer of legality. As long as they were already adults when the relationship started, age gaps between legal adults are a different thing altogether. With Rebecca and Sam, the main issue we all take is with the power dynamics in that relationship, a boss dating an employee can and usually does end very badly.

[@douglas2938]

@@bibek12332 Because there's still a big age gap and it's weird that it's a pattern? But what are you saying, that it wouldn't be brought up like, say, whenever Madonna has a new guy? 😆

[@deemo7868]

@@bibek12332 If he was a woman they would call him a cougar. What's the word for a man? Oh yeah, it's "man"

[@noelleirina5628]

a 21 year old can easily be groomed by a middle aged person. you don't become an adult mentally when you turn 18.

[@benllewellyn297]

She's completely innocent, because neither she nor Sam had any idea who the other was. But the shock of it certainly made her think of 40+ Rupert dating 20-ish Rebecca back in the day, followed by 70-ish Rupert dating 20-ish Bex.

[@alixc1855]

Right. Neither grooming nor the age gap are the issues here, but the balance of power between the couple. Rebecca owns Sam's contract AND his place of employment, so she has huge power over him. Even if she does not think she is exercising power it is almost impossible to act in a completely fair and businesslike manner between employees when you are sleeping with one of them, particularly in secret. It could prove a problem for the whole team, and if the press get hold of it it surely would.

[@VSounds96]

Suraj is about to get what he’s been asking for can’t wait till next week 😂

[@CarmenJonnes06]

At 6:58 the Doctor is Roy's SISTER, Phoebe's Mom ! I just realized it now after seeing her in season 3 🤯🤯 and the next scene is Roy saying she works in ER 🤯 the TL writers leaving easter eggs left and right, also Sofia Barclay the actress was definitely casted because of her powerful eyebrows, I'd belive that she and Roy are related just from seeing their eyebrows

[@adude20]

I was guessing that might be who she was, the way they cut to that next scene.

[@agirlhasnoname567]

I have been dying for you to get to this episode!!!! Literally one of my favorites in the whole series

[@Levels2sucio]

I finally started watching Ted Lasso because of The Normies and I'm grateful for your discussions about the many deep messages about self-love, mourning and letting go, seeking out help, communication within your relationships, boundary setting and now this latest discussion on Rebecca and Sam. I love the show and the conversation it sparks on the couch and personally within myself. Thank you!

[@PufferFishX]

Dude, biiiig same! I love this show and its characters but the Normies conversations after are terrific

[@3kylajsmith]

The little things in this show are great. The way Jamie flinched when Roy approached him. The way Roy opened his fist and put a gentle open palm on Jamie's back. It was also such a good representation of child abuse, after Jamie hit his Dad, he was happy, he completely dissociated. He totally shut down. It was a great example of PTSD in a survivor of child abuse.

[@aquele4virou3]

Nah, she didn’t groom him. They were anonymously exchanging messages and he is of legal age. That being said, she should have told him no and gone away. It is borderline immoral and unethical, not just because of the age difference, but because she is his boss. If this was to leak to the press or something, it would be wild and also if it went wrong, she has a lawsuit in her hands (I don’t think Sam would do that, but he could). Also he is 21 now, but he was 19 in the pilot and she was already his boss and we don’t know when they met and how long he had been in the team prior to the series beginning, if she met him when he was a minor. Another point of view is that Sam went from Nigeria straight to Richmond, from living with his parents to playing for the team, so yeah, he is still in his formative phase, specially in living independently from his parents (while still very much attached to them in the matter of decision-making). Their situation is not the worst in this scenario, but it reminds me a bit of Aaron Taylor-Johnson and his wife (except there was probably grooming in that case, but at the same time a director is a temporary boss, while a club owner pretty much owns your services). The fact that her goddaughter is closer in age to Sam than Rebecca lmao She has a crush on him too 😅 PS: Sharon and Ted is a NO!!! It’s gross, unethical, immoral and in some places even illegal. She is his therapist, she would lose her license minimum.

[@Wiley_Coyote]

The grooming thing is just her guilt and fear talking. Their hookup IS unethical because of the power differential, but it's certainly not grooming. Ted and Sharon? I never felt any kind of attraction being implied. Not really with Ted and Rebecca either (the other potential ship people moan about not happening). This show bucks cliches, and those types of relationships are cliches (whereas Sam and Rebecca was an interesting idea to explore, especially the moral issues with it, and not even a little cliched... plus they TOLD us Sam was attracted to her last year, and she charmed by him. They just made us forget it by putting it aside.

[@joeypotter6051]

@@Wiley_Coyote Seriously I feel like some people will ship any duo that talks to each other

[@lafatte24]

@@Wiley_Coyote Forreal, I never saw Ted and Rebecca have any romantic chemistry, and every time they talk about wanting them to get together I cringed. Also... Pat really has no nuance. Grooming isn't automatic where there is an age difference, and in this situation she didn't even know his age, and wasn't the one pursuing the younger party.

[@jamie4892]

How did Pat not get Sharon was talking to another therapist on the phone?!🤣

[@bhelliom3]

I can’t answer this without being mean.

[@missjemmac]

Every day Pat is red flag after red flag

[@MatthewStephensAU]

If the ages were reversed, it wouldn't be 'right or wrong', it would be Rupert and his latest Wife. That's a big part of what's freaking Rebecca out.

[@Quzga]

"tap water should be illegal"... That's the most American thing I've heard you guys say lmao.. My tap water in sweden tastes better than any you can buy, it comes from springs in the north. Our tap water in most of Europe is great

[@driezzy]

It's so funny.

[@Chocolatepain]

Tap water in many places in the US is great though

[@nix2747]

Jamaica has great tap water too

[@noneofyourbeeswax01]

Fun Fact: Most bottled water is tap water.

[@christophervillalba4139]

I love that when Rebecca kisses Sam, everyone cheers except Suraj. The dude just tilts his head and smiles.

[@bibek6713]

So did i

[@Wiley_Coyote]

Sam told Rebecca how attractive he thought she was back in Season 1, when he charmed her into coming to the curse-breaking ceremony. They did a good job of leaving that alone long enough for us to forget that, but left a definite seed so it makes sense now.

[@spooony2714]

On Jaime's dad wearing the Man City shirt when his son plays for Richmond. Even if he wasn't a horrible person, he still might be wearing a Man City shirt, the team you support doesn't really change.

[@Strider91]

Navi, my living status is such that I walk to work, bike to the store, and bike to my parents on weekends for dinner. . . And I can safely say, ITS AWESOME. JOIN US!! Become a carless commuter lol!!

[@DavidWilliams-nm5jv]

Also, Pat said something this episode that you all are going to need to clip out and give him credit for when it comes true much later (no spoilers). Props!!

[@Heshinsi]

Leo's rep comes from how he seemingly keeps changing girlfriends whenever the one he's currently with turns 25. It's not like he dated one or two twenty year olds and that was that. Edit: I totally forgot that Mike Dean was the ref for the show's FA Cup semi final game

[@dipankarjoshi3828]

According to fifa, The length be 90-120 meters and width be 45-90 meters. This is the range that has to be followed for a football pitch

[@joeypotter6051]

That's a huge disparity! :)

[@ovenchipp3475]

Just to note because I think there was a big misunderstanding at some point. Wembley isn't Manchester City's stadium. Wembley is usually reserved for big English games such as the "League" cup final (it's not the Premier League it's a separate tournament) as well as the FA Cup Final. As well as some playoff games for lower league teams. And some stadiums being slightly bigger than others doesn't really make much of a difference here.

[@stonerthoosie]

1. Rana said “Kill Nate”…I’m dead 💀😂 2. Suraj over here looking like Nicholson when Sam and Rebecca realize it 😂 3. The goalie diving the opposite way during a penalty kick is because that’s part of their job during PKs. At that range with the amount of pace on a professional’s shot, it’s usually impossible to adequately see which way the shot is going and still react with enough time to block it. PKs are a bit of a mind game and you have to outwit the other player and anticipate what they’re going to do.

[@kingvii6206]

One of the best episodes of the entire show hands down. Love the reactions as usual. Oh and I completely disagree with the foul language debate. U can never take power away from a word. Just because it doesn’t offend you don’t meant it’s not offensive to someone else. I’m a black man and u can say the N word a million times, it will always be a bad word in my eyes.

[@kschneyer]

Guys, guys - Rebecca’s first concert was the Spice Girls. Their first album was in 1996, and she can’t have been more than 18 at her 1st concert. She’s no more than 42 in 2020. (The actress was 46 in 2020.)

[@roryowens9703]

Wembley isn't City's stadium, it's the English national stadium, where the national team plays its home games. It's also used for the FA Cup semi-final and final games. And with pitch sizes, generally a larger pitch benefits attacking teams who want to have as much space as possible. Small pitches are better for teams that think they'll be defending more than attacking. A club like Richmond would have a small pitch, because they want to deny space to their more talented opposition.

[@Blossom_Screen]

Grooming is when an adult knowingly messages/talks to/hangs out with a minor with the intent to get them to fall in love or have sex once they’re of “legal” age. It takes a long time could even be years. Rebecca and Sam had no idea how old the person they were texting was (other than knowing they were both adults since it’s an adults only app). So not grooming by any definition. Also: Leonardo DiCaprio gets shit for his dating habits because he ONLY goes after women under 25. He actively seeks out very young women and so far every time his girlfriend has reached 25 they’ve broken up. Could be a coincidence? Sure. But it’s the conscious active decision to only date

[@katedc]

People are certainly entitled to their own opinions, but yeah, 21 and however old Rebecca might be is an issue, an imbalance of power (age, boss) regardless of gender. It would be worse if it were a man, because men already have more power in society, the imbalance would be worse. And not the same as Leo - with Leo it’s a pattern, and with Rebecca it’s an accident, but still. It’s a thing. And it’s on the older person to ask why they can’t meet people at their level…insecurity deserves to be examined, and luckily it’s Ted Lasso so of course they do.

[@katedc]

It’s a little sad because Sam is so awesome, and has such a big heart - “if you don’t give your heart, is it even worth it?” - which is exactly what she needs to be vulnerable. But yeah, got to find a way to be able to be vulnerable outside the context of a specific partner. Which, again, kind of what the show it about.

[@maryamadam8131]

yes you put this so clearly.

[@samatar6852]

It wouldn't be worse for a man. She is the owner she signs his cheques. She ultimately decides whether he stays on the team or not etc etc. What if he starts to play badly while they're dating and their team suffers for his presence would she let go of him and effectively fire him if that's what's best for her team? What if they have a bad break up would she unjustly get rid of him just to not be around him anymore? What if the rest of the team finds out and considers Sam having an unfair situation by sleeping with the boss? The amount of conflict of interest is insane and these are all things that need to be considered. Her having a vagina instead of a penis does not erase or diminish that fundamentally flagrant imbalance of power. Like it's actually wild the amount excuses people will try to bring out, I didn't realise the double standard was hardwired this firmly in people until this storyline happened and so many people online try to pretend like it isn't that big of a deal. And it's not the same as Leo you are right. It's much much worse. Leo is not their boss.

[@aquele4virou3]

It is even worse to me because Sam was 19 in season 1, he has his 20th bday in epi 2 or 3, so yeah, Rebecca was already his boss when he was s teenager (it’s unknown how old he was when he arrived at Richmond, but he could even be a minor). Add that he saw as an authority figure and the team was his family as he was away from home for the first time. Even in season 1 he sort of implies she the head/matriarch of their team/family. As for long term relationship, realistically, even if Sam is nice and sweet, they are wildly in different phases of their lives and Rebecca is far too mature for him. He was a good rebound though, a way for her to feel appreciated after those awful years with Rupert.

[@walrus2515]

@@samatar6852he older party being the man would make it worse-maybe only marginally so; maybe not-due to the innate reason that society is prejudiced in favour of men. Simple as that. The only thing that’s “wild” here is your quiet misogyny.

[@mathewlang5749]

To add to the conversation: There are variations to all fields in all sports with some having minor and some having major differences. In the US the sport with playing areas that change the most from location to location would be baseball where the outfields dimensions change dramatically sometimes. While a game may have set lines of play, those uniform rules do not apply to the stadiums or arenas which will result in more or less fan interaction or even balls hitting scoreboards hanging above the field of play. I am sure some viewers will have their own stories to share (i.e. the green monster in Boston).

[@thedoor43]

Is the tap water in Indiana bad? I drink tap water almost exclusively in Wisconsin.

[@not2sharpmd]

Different pitch sizes isn’t that big of a deal. To be clear, the rules state that the “recommended” pitch size is 105x68 meters (115x74 yards), but allow changes if it is impossible to fit it based on the stadium size (you can see how this might be relevant when there is promotion and relegation). The shortest pitches in the Prem are 110 yards, and the longest are 116. Additionally the skinniest fields are 73 yards while the widest is 78. Most fields, however, are exactly 115x74 yards.

[@okramando]

18:20 Baseball has wildly different outfield and fence heights as well.

[@bigpancho22]

The best episode in the entire series ( IN MY OPINION)

[@maurice8180]

the best scene of the entire show when the whole team sees how much of a prick jamie's drunk dad is 😢 so sad, but so well acted!

[@isaacmedina1226]

Very interesting how the men and women reacted to Sam and Rebecca. The main difference between Rebecca and let’s say Rupert is that Rebecca didn’t know it was Sam. She wasn’t looking for a younger guy. The person just happen to be Sam. As for Rupert, he knew how old the other girl was and went after her. He purposely likes younger women which is of some concern. The only problem with Sam and Rebecca is the power dynamic as Rebecca is the boss. The way they meet is not because they both didn’t know who they were talking to

[@matriquess]

Wembley isn't Man city home, Jamie might've never played there, is from England and they play the semi-finals and finals of the cups in neutral ground

[@72Guyman]

If swearing is just words why would Nate get in trouble for swearing at the ref? All words are just words but we gave them meaning that's how language works, and certain words mean ill will and hatefulness towards others... And you can totally groom someone in their early 20's, it's more about maturity and the difference in the power dynamic than age. Just because it is legal doesn't mean it's not immoral, like when those creeps who made the countdown calendar for Mary Kate and Ashley Olsen for when they became legal. It is a bit of a double standard if it was an older man and a younger woman, but unfortunately a man in power has more power and support from all the patriarchal institutions around him than a woman in power has, so if something happened the man would typically get a pass or help covering it up or using lawyers to get out of it. All this to say each situation is different, I think Sam and Rebecca can be fine if they establish boundaries and are very careful and conscious of their influence on another.

[@hanaj]

I can’t believe I’m saying this- I agree with Pat. Not about the age, but a boss shouldn’t get an employee.

[@reflectionist]

I work as a cashier in a grocery store. Some of my favorite lines are.... "Would you like to be carded today?" "I know you can carry it by yourself, I'm just not going to make you." "I know I didn't have to, that's why I did it."

[@Noct31]

Damn Rana really went through it this episode.

[@andrewdunn8778]

I've heard that a goalie staying in the same spot is statistically the best option because they always dive to one side, therefore the kicker often kicks towards the center of the goal. It's the equivalent of a granny throw free throw in basketball, it's statistically the best thing to do but no one does it because you look dumb as hell when it doesnt work.

[@brianb7385]

Tap water used to fine in the US, too. Now Coke and Nestle sell it back to us. Regardless, home filters are pretty good for all but the most extreme water tables.

[@matthewt1772]

Have to pause at 12:30 to point out that, with some notable and horrible local exceptions, tap water in the US is fine, and usually subject to stricter testing than bottled water, which can have higher bacterial loads. And plastic water bottles are an abomination.

[@Quzga]

If you think your taxes are high you'll have a panic attack in Europe lol. Unless you go to Portugal, Cyprus, Spain etc I'm self employed designer in sweden and without a company the tax was 70% (social fees, tax, and marginal tax) social fees and regular tax is already 60% or so. If you're employed you don't pay social fees though your employer does

[@woopdee77]

Unlike y’all in Europe, we don’t get as much in social services and such for paying our increasing taxes in the US. Have a look at what our roads be looking like and how much debt people have because they dared to go to the doctor or get a higher education.

[@mattpham2910]

Man city doesn’t play regularly at Wembley, the game was FA cup final, and most finals of are played at a neutral venue so neither team has home advantage, the coaches said man city have an advantage on that bigger field because of their play style. And yeah some pitches are different dimensions like how baseball outfields in the mlb.

[@spooony2714]

Man City does play regularly at Wembley... but that's just because they;'re always in cup finals.

[@ClarkJ2265]

This was a fun reaction to watch. You guys were all over it!

[@CumpasFilms]

when he says the pitch is the same size as the one on home turf, it's a hoosiers reference.

[@sujoydutta920]

Ahh I learned a new word "Salvia" that was the highlight of the show

[@DanielSanchez-lr3sz]

Wembley is not Man City’s stadium, both teams are visitors on the stadium because in the Emirates FA Cup the semifinals are played there

[@jaynahoffacker2557]

The difference between Rebecca going on a date with Sam and Leonardo DiCaprio is that he ONLY dates women who are in their early 20s because they are young. That was not the case with Rebecca and Sam. So, nice try calling it a double standard, but no dice.

[@LethalWalou]

No matter how you try to twist things, fact is that there is nothing wrong with DiCaprio dating adults. It is as it was pointed out though, men are just demonized if they are dating younger women.

[@Blazingstoke]

ABSOLUTELY not grooming. Even the age difference in manageable. The only problem is that, as Rebecca very rightly points out, she's his boss. That part makes it unethical AF. But, if Sam were to transfer to another team...

[@upsidedownwithkris6754]

ok football knowledge for Americans: there is minimum and maximum dimension allowed in football stadium, regulated by fifa, minimum is 95m long 65m wide, maximum is 110m long 80m wide,( around this number, not 100% sure) every team can build their ground inside those parameter's based on their playstyle, if u want possession football u need big field, if u playing direct football u need narrow and short field, thts why every field size is different

[@100Companions]

Going to a game at Wembley is AMAZING. Definite bucket list material.

[@dapeach06]

"Tap water is fine if you're not in America" I guess Navi has never been to Mexico

[@joedunams7505]

Tap water is fine in most places in America too. And while i know that to be a fact i myself do not drink much tap water, lol.

[@mmichael1221]

I love that Teds speech at Wembley is supposed to be like the speech from Hoosiers but it totally backfires lmao

[@thesimpsons17]

Rana Suraj and navi during the Jamie/Roy Hug 'This show is so good!!!!' Pat: confused trying to work out what emotions are

[@Bekka_Noyb]

'Kill Nate' - agreed! Love how excited you guys are for Sam/Rebecca! 'Bish shut up!' 😃 ♥ Sam! LoL @ Kyrie Irving line! 😃 'oops' ♥Beard!

[@karabomasibi2331]

This is why Pat is important for this group. Every group needs a contrarian because once in a while they will make the group think in certain ways. I respect the discussion Pat brought about with regards to the Sam and Rebecca thing

[@Ammor723]

I agree, but this argument was dumb tbh. if she was 40 and hes 20 they are both considered adults and legal and very normal, same thing if the roles are reversed. I would find it weird if a 40 year old male/female texts a 20 year old only for sex, but for a serious thing, I think its totally normal (ofc if they both are actually good people and not monsters)

[@LethalWalou]

@@Ammor723 Read the comments a bit. Leonardo DiCaprio is demonized here time and time again. So it is indeed different if the roles were reversed.

[@hawkeye7866]

I found sparkling water dispensers EVERYWHERE in Florence, Italy………soooooo….not just an American thing

[@corystanish]

Hey guys give tap water a break. I'm sorry the tap water where you live is bad, but the quality varies a lot around the country. NYC for example has some of the best tap water you'll find anywhere. Sounds like a joke, but it's not a joke

[@KyleS3m3noff]

"It's only 20lbs". Pat can't even get units of measurement right.

[@tgram2307]

You adjust your game for the size of your home pitch. You play half your games there with all your fans. The away team has to break that down. Home form is key and there are more home wins. Keeps the fans entertained. It's beautiful

[@paulonius42]

Pat has issues.

[@thomasalessio]

That stadium isn’t Man city’s home stadium, it’s eithad. Wen key is the location of the FA cup they were playing at, a neutral location and not part of the PL season

[@willvr4]

They're in the UK Pat, that's 20kg not LB. Basically our 45lb plates.

[@georgeparker8198]

The power dynamics issue can be a tricky one but you can groom people who are much younger than you, I don't necessarily view this situation as grooming. He's a grown man a professional athlete, I think that however her being the owner of the team and him being a player is problematic far more than the age difference of two consenting adults.

[@JuQui228]

Pat how can you trust a dentist if he also has to go see a dentist? Your brain literally controls every function of your being. Why wouldn’t we need to go see a doctor about that? Think of therapist like dentist of the mind but instead of cleaning teeth they clean up all the shit that clogging up your head. Your friends can’t be the only outlets for your emotions. Sometimes it gets to be too much for them.

[@bangwi]

Baseball fields are different too. Some walls are lower and easier to get homeruns

[@mudshovle8261]

As someone from New York. You can 1000% drink the tap water here lol

[@markc.7984]

Interesting, this was the "boundary-crossing" episode. Little girl swearing like an adult, boss-employee relationship, therapist-client relationship.

[@mauriceharris1527]

Me being new to video calls, when I answered the phone and their face popped up and they said whatcha doing? I hung up on them.

[@tgram2307]

A good line for Ted here would have been 'your faucet water is so good and you throw all your poop in the sea and ruin the beaches. How does that work?'

[@alexvidal7940]

5:43 that's probably 20kg plates x 2 + the barbell. So a bit over 100 pounds.

[@DBlairMusic]

Don’t forget that Man City doesn’t typically play in Wembley, so both for Jamie this time and when they play Man City at home in the future, it’s fresh and new

[@notdunric]

Navi: "Do you know what 'grooming' means?" Pat: "No." Navi: [starts explaining what it means] Pat: [promptly starts interrupting her] Nice. 🙄

[@patrickwinter428]

One of many Brown Pat's features that I really hate. That's rude even if you're doing it to a friend.

[@Grenn1471]

It's not grooming because the power dynamic is equal on the app. Neither knew who the other was.

[@hippiecheapskate]

While there are definitely power dynamic issues between a boss and an employee dating, the age difference does not cut equally both ways. There are plenty of 18 year old rapists that have assaulted older women. 45 year old women are not the same kind of threat to a 21 year old man as the reverse.

[@tkeez]

Leo met and knew his ex gf camila from the age of 12 when he met her at 33. He was a family friend.......He 'waited' til she was 19 to date her. He's a creep.

[@pamoweiberezi5315]

He kept tabs on her or he met her once and again 7 years later?

[@cthulhuz0]

Not like there's a sudden cut off in maturity once you reach the age of 18. For me personally with such a large age difference and the relationship between them (boss) still can be icky even if the younger partner is legally an adult at like 21 vs 40/50+. I don't know what the exact legal definition of grooming is though. Someone aged 17 with a 21 year old defintely would be less worse if anything (depending on the context and their maturity) than that imo.

[@mauriceharris1527]

Crazy how people put rules on text messaging. We went from leaving a message with someone to leaving a mess. on an answering machine to texting, and all these came with rules. 🤣😂🤣

[@MicahSps]

As a heads up, remember the doctor giving instructions. She turns up later.

[@yurigodoy93]

5:43 That's not 20 pounds, they use kilos in England lol

[@CarlosCasanova9]

im so happy suraj brought up leonardo dicaprio

[@Chocolatepain]

Geez. Tap water in NY is great. Sounds like a skill diff.

[@TheAes86]

Wow. None of you Indiana residents got the "Hoosiers" reference with the stadium size and the "richmond!!" yell? Shame. Shame.

[@tiagoborges8554]

What is the current episode on patreon?

[@BananaMan311]

Tap water in Kentucky is life changing. The best in the country. Love it.

[@jopiter8]

Rebecca and Rupert’s age difference was even higher when they were married. The new Rebecca that is having a baby with Rupert is younger than 30… it’s been happening already no one talked about grooming haha so wild to watch an insecure man seeing an older woman having a good time with a younger guy and trying to make sense of it.