I work at shipyard as a underwater welder. Been daily wearing a two tone daytona for the last few years. All the scratches, little dings, etc i find beautiful. It tells a story and that the watch lived a life alongside its owner. My late fathers patek however gets worn only on family involved holidays, could never be able to replace that thing.
@alexjaybrady9 ай бұрын
That's cool
@artficiallyaware9 ай бұрын
That's awesome, cheers to you!
@charu14739 ай бұрын
If you work as an underwater welder you can probably afford to daily a Daytona 😂
@milsub599 ай бұрын
Bi-metal watches are crap
@dioxviad9 ай бұрын
I also work at a shipyard as an underwater welder. I also been daily wearing a two tone Daytona for the last few years also. All the scratches, little dings, etc I also,find beautiful.
@serbeefheart99649 ай бұрын
Teddy forgot, "The watch your wife can't know you bought."
@alanroberts69185 ай бұрын
What does the wife have to do with it?
@Schwaapilz3 ай бұрын
Or the watch you can never around your wife, because your girlfriend bought it for you?
@rangered20103 ай бұрын
Or the junk watch your wife bought and you don’t want to wear it!!!
@David-ff7vp2 ай бұрын
@@Schwaapilzlmaoooo
@benkaska2 ай бұрын
That’s a scary thing
@mi6269 ай бұрын
“You don’t own the watch, the watch owns you!” How true! Thanks TB. That sentence summarizes the whole video.
@gec-o21679 ай бұрын
No truer words were ever spoken...
@RM-lv9ng5 ай бұрын
That way with a lot of things.
@thegoldendog79914 ай бұрын
This actually holds true for all of your stuff.
@darylwardsnyder440610 ай бұрын
This is a classic example of why I enjoy watching your videos. You speak the truth. You unearth thoughts we’ve all had, but haven’t put into words. You clear the air by giving meaning to our emotions. Thank you for making our watch collecting more enjoyable.
@GarrettOHara9 ай бұрын
I’m not a watch collector, but I like Teddy’s honesty and transparency here. There’s no aire of “you have to become one of us” or whatnot.
@stevenmattson31649 ай бұрын
You forgot the most important challenge in owning crazy expensive watches. And that would be that Margot Robbie thinks you’re a “douche flex.”😘
@favoritethings30659 ай бұрын
Great video, Teddy…thank you. The only thing I would add is in your 5th category…watched that you’re afraid to own…I have a vintage Omega that has a Radium dial and I’m now paranoid about wearing it as often as I did before I bought a Geiger Counter😢
@snakesonn35907 ай бұрын
Great comments usual Daryl. You are my hero
@darylwardsnyder44067 ай бұрын
@@snakesonn3590 Why thank you!
@karlan10 ай бұрын
Love your last point there - watches you’re afraid to wear. I bought a watch out of my price bracket (a speedy) for my 50th, and I thought long and hard before buying it about whether it was a watch I could wear in normal everyday life, because if not, I wasn’t going to buy it. In the end, I decided it’s insured, I don’t care about wear and tear, it’s fine. But it was a big decision in buying that watch.
@VideoArchiveGuy4 ай бұрын
Insure it, then don't worry about it.
@ehuntley8310 ай бұрын
“Watch poor” is a fantastic way to describe when people overbuy and can’t bear to actually wear their watch for fear of something happening. Love it. Great stuff.
@Roddy196510 ай бұрын
Drive it like ya stole it.
@Pentonavalsolutions10 ай бұрын
Absolutamente de acuerdo en todos los puntos.
@MasterSam8510 ай бұрын
It actually happened to me for my very first mechanical watch. Hence why I sold it rather quickly...(for a loss ofc :/ ). Now I am no longer afraid to wear watches, even though I try to be cautious and not put a dent in them, and I'm also accepting the fact that I would lose money should I sell them. Not everyone can buy Rolex/AP/PP...ahaha
@povertyspec965110 ай бұрын
That's why I don't buy ultra expensive cars.
@TheGrandPoohPaw10 ай бұрын
On the other hand, and point well-taken, I would rather be watch poor than car poor. I’d rather be admiring a nice pre-owned or new Patek, Audemars, or A. Lange & Sohne on my wrist than having a $100K car in my garage for all the reasons Teddy described. A car comes with more baggage, burden and worries than any watch I can think of, while a watch will be well-cared for much more easily. On my wrist, I can get ROI out of it every time glance down or need to know what time it is. In short I can fall just as in love with a watch as any car, and I will admire a fine watch for its engineering and craftsmanship far more than a car. But that’s just me.
@franktoartist301210 ай бұрын
My King Seiko was a nightmare to repair and refurbished as the parts are near impossible to replace. It took me 5 years to get it to finally work! I was lucky enough to locate an eBay seller who sold me all his spare parts on the 1960s King Seiko that I own. Technically my King Seiko is now serviceable and will outlive me!😊
@neale387110 ай бұрын
Shame you need a donor parts watch ⌚
@boatdetective10 ай бұрын
The same happened to me! Parts for vintage Seiko can be a challenge. The 27J King Seiko movement was not that common.
@akastenas10 ай бұрын
I hope it was worth it and it does not end up in a dump somewhere.
@ousi009 ай бұрын
@@boatdetective Even for quartz Seiko of that vintage (the famous 9983 movement ones) is very hard to service. It took me a couple months to source the crystal alone.
@jackxiao97028 ай бұрын
Jesus Christ, these companies are selling you a hobby. I know someone who bought a Lambo and was a nightmare to repair.
@OFBCyclingWorld9 ай бұрын
Great video. I have a vintage Seiko automatic that I wore for years and then it stopped. I took it the the little watch shop in Hobart that I have been using for years, anyway they said that they didn't have parts to fix it but if I left it with them because they said a "parts watch may come in. About 6 years went by and I had pretty much forgotten about it then I got a call from the shop saying that they had fixed it. I was so pleased after all that time. Quite a funny story. So yes old watches can be hard to have fixed.
@ListenToPowerViolence10 ай бұрын
I eat out of dumpsters but I wear a Hublot Big Bang doing it.
@keepcalm12243 ай бұрын
😆😆
@lanemiddleton92 ай бұрын
😂 ‼️
@kennethkirklin6959Ай бұрын
Ive seen you before....hanging around my 4 yard greeny
@pierregagne190310 ай бұрын
At last. A video that adresses the elephants in the room . Maintenance costs, the fear of scratching your nice watch, etc. This video should be mandatory for every potential luxury watch owner. One last thing I would add: the hurdle of servicing a watch when you need to send it in another country. This is especially true for small markets, such as in Canada. Local customs can be a real pain, charging you unjustified import taxes when you send your watch for repairs, and getting refunded is a challenge. Great video. Thanks!
@katelee5202 ай бұрын
Can't agree more, bought a Zenith and the service centre in Canada was beyond terrible. They actually made my watch going from having a bit of condensation to not working at all, after 2 services within warranty. I then have to service it in Asia and paid a hefty price for it because warranty has now expired. They took no responsibility despite me complaining twice.
@BradyPuryear10 ай бұрын
I think people underestimate how often mechanical watches even from the top brands break and need to be repaired or at least serviced. I know that was me. Had my Breitling Premiere mainspring break after only 14 months which was luckily still under warranty and had my Nomos Club Sport 42 crown completely pull out only 1 week after it’s 2 year warranty ended. Once that happened and I asked around I found it’s common in even Patek, AP, Lange, Rolex, etc… it’s definitely made me rethink owning complicated movements from luxury brands.
@markriobr10 ай бұрын
Funny this talk about mechanical and quartz. Like you bought a Breitiling chrono, after 10 months was on vacation at South of France..Provence..with the watch . One day went to dive with friends, not even 10 meters. Back on our beach when i look to see the time saw the water. Was cover by the warrant but all paper was in L Angeles at my house. Once back got all papers box, got my car and drove to their official branch. Got there throw all over the counter and said, is all there for you people fix. Now in 1996 bought a Colt quartz, is a diving watch. Surfed, sail, dove and until today never had a single problem. Change the battery four times in 30 years, runs just like when I bought and still looks cool
@phillipsugwas7 ай бұрын
Did you put it in a glass of water when u got back to where u were staying!?
@RiZenAsH10 ай бұрын
My favorite watches are the simplest ones. Pilot’s watches or Field watches are my go to types. They’re essentially the same thing for the most part. Simplicity is key for me. I don’t need all those extra features that I’ll never use. A nice clean dial with a date window that’s easy to read at a glance is what I prefer.
@DocHoliday44410 ай бұрын
Yes, that's me too, totally. Sinn and Damasko are situated just right from a quality/price perspective, and I wouldn't ever really be willing to spend more on something I'm actually intending to wear day-to-day.
@michelbotterik29639 ай бұрын
Right. Simplicity is king. The more complications the more it gets complicated to read the dial…
@OscarOSullivan8 ай бұрын
Diver’s watches as well
@ssssaintmarcus5 ай бұрын
I mean you wouldn’t ever use the annual calendar feature on a watch? I glance down at my seamaster and can see the exact date each day of the month and it sets itself by month. Pretty amazing
@teleguy56995 ай бұрын
My Hamilton field watch is a favorite. Retired Military here.
@marksayampanathan651710 ай бұрын
Totally agree with the “house poor” point. It’s like buying a vintage Bentley for $50K and then not being able to afford the maintenance.
@addmoregas9 ай бұрын
I can smell the mineral oil in this post.
@addmoregas9 ай бұрын
I can smell the mineral oil in this post.
@lmphm10 ай бұрын
This is why i decided to buy a quartz annual calendar from Frederique Constant instead of a mechanical one. I have 18 watches i rotate (half of them are quartz) and i dread setting the time day date month every freaking rotation to the point that I avoid some of my mechanical watches if I could. You can say what you want about quartz watches but my life doesn't revolve around watches 100%, I have better shit to do than setting watches and taking them to maintenance all the time :D
@eyeheartsushi221210 ай бұрын
LOL
@Uncle_Dave_Dave10 ай бұрын
yeah... I'm a big digital watch fan myself, so quartz are my preferred when going for a classic look, but if doing automatic, the most simple function is prefered as I'm only likely to wear it for a few hours, and setting the day and date will waste my time.
@charlesrussell931210 ай бұрын
Through out my life, I rarely have set the date on my watch. If I did, I would forget about it for months. @@Uncle_Dave_Dave
@SkywhiteChannel10 ай бұрын
Hahaha….okay, whatever.
@mph728210 ай бұрын
It takes literally a few seconds to set the time. A minute to set the day/date. I don’t find that particularly onerous or “dreadful”. Everyone’s mileage varies though.
@ROKuberski6 ай бұрын
Great video. I am a recent buyer of a Rolex GMT Master II (16713.) I told the seller that this will NOT sit in a box and just be worn on special occasions. Naturally, I take it off if I'm doing something that could damage the watch, but I would have done that with a $100 watch too. As mine is 19 years old, I was aware that a service is in my future, but without the history on this watch, I don't know when it will be. I did have the watch checked out on a time graph machine and it's in good shape. My wife has a 1981 DateJust that used to belong to her mother. In the past 25 years we've put $2,500 in it for repairs/service (most recent service was done this month and cost $650.) The watch is likely worth about twice what we've paid to keep it working and looking great.
@BradMathewSmith2 ай бұрын
Excellent discussion Teddy! I completely agree with your analysis about servicing, especially for watches from secondary markets. Most people don't take servicing cost into consideration when buying watches. Some brands such as Patek, Rolex, GS, and Piaget are quite flexible and does not have strict criteria about previous servicing history. Some can be quite troublesome... A few years ago, I bought an A Lange and Söhne watch from an online auction that cost about 26K. The watch looks sexy AF and in very good conditions, but when I bought in the watch to the boutique for servicing, I ended up having to pay about 5K+ since they found a fingerprint inside the movement, meaning that it has been "interfered with by a third party" and so the normal repair/servicing rates do not apply and I had to pay for mandatory service to change the main parts.
@jonathandoughy343010 ай бұрын
I appreciate the honesty in this video. If you are afraid to wear the watch, in most cases you should probably sell it. The one exception is my all original mint condition SKX. I may not wear it often, but seeing it in my watch box gives me joy.
@adams73310 ай бұрын
I love that you kept this so respectful to all brands. Great job Teddy.
@jpbalboarocks9 ай бұрын
A lot of good points here. I wanted a vintage but got scared of the hidden repair costs so I decided to buy a reissue (Zenith El Primero A384 revival) so that it has the vintage look but without the usual surprise repairs that come with old watches 😇
@WhiteSandsMbuna9 ай бұрын
Buy a cheap old seiko diver.
@Re0Search5 ай бұрын
I would just buy an orient at that point @@WhiteSandsMbuna
@LulzRoyce7 ай бұрын
Watches should have battle scars and a history. That’s what makes heirloom pieces so great. The personality and stories that watch lived through
@radiok2ua9 ай бұрын
I love the directness of the message--"You do not own it, it owns you." This should be part of every rational buying decision. "Will I own this thing or will it own me?"
@jpdemer510 ай бұрын
Microbrands almost always have off-the-shelf mechanisms inside, so service is rarely a problem. Crystals, straps, crowns, and often even the hands, are likewise standard items, not custom-made.
@ralphmarkasher10 ай бұрын
Teddy, I agree and the same thing applies to owning a vehicle. Out here in the Monterey and Silicon Valley area, I see more people owning fancy cars but can't afford to fix the damage to the car or keep it running correctly.
@TheNunakun10 ай бұрын
Casio avoids all these checks, tis why I proudly and unabashedly wear it.
@mikerichards606510 ай бұрын
I bought a Speedmaster for my 50th after wanting one for decades. - turns out I didn’t actually like its greyness, but it took a long time for me to admit it wasn’t the right watch for me and to sell it. Still looking for ‘the one’ that’s in my price range, could be an IWC Pilot, but I’m enjoying the hunt.
@garyd59910 ай бұрын
Don't know what you mean about "greyness". I have a Speedmaster as well and it's definitely black.
@jamessinatro480710 ай бұрын
He might have bought a grey side of the moon speedmaster.
@OscarOSullivan8 ай бұрын
Stowa Flieger is the bees knees design wise
@jamiechkhoo50764 күн бұрын
I was also on the hunt for a speedmaster too: and I found the right, busy dail just meh after a while. I also felt it is a very popular first “serious watch” most people get - one indicator is: there’s a lot for sale in the secondary market. I then looked into a seamaster; one with timezone function because I travel a lot but still wasn’t convinced. I eventually decided to get an IWC pilot; their new 41mm chronos with sunburst dails look great in person!
@res00xua9 ай бұрын
Sold my Rolex Submariner because everywhere I looked I saw cheap copies being worn. Replaced it with an Omega Seamaster 300 that I really enjoy.
@soffronitsky24 күн бұрын
Great choice: your "replacement" is probably the most beautiful diver on today's market
@gingsSon9 күн бұрын
I mean, did you buy the Sub to stand out and flex on people? Or did you buy the watch as a symbol and/or reward to yourself for you to personally enjoy?
@MilosJeremic198310 ай бұрын
If you have seagull chronograph, instead of servising it, you can buy new movement and replace it... I love those movements (st19) they are so beautiful
@philbelcher277510 ай бұрын
Great points. Replaced my beloved GMT Master II with a Farer lander IV because I was worried about wearing it around London. Fortunately, I really like my Farer even more!!!
@JTSLJR9 ай бұрын
Great and honest video. I’ve owned too many overpriced watches to count and don’t miss any of them. I’ve settled down or up into reasonably priced quality watches. One is one of your recent recommendations, thanks! I recall a great story. A pro athlete goes to an expensive jewelry store and likes a $27,000 watch. He has to call his business manager for approval. His manager ask him what time does the watch say it is? Athlete says 3:15, manager says mine says the same thing and cost $25. ‘Get out of the store now!’
@OscarOSullivan8 ай бұрын
Keith Earls when starting out in Munster Rugby bought a Range Rover the car of his dreams. Took it over to his mother and father’s house and ended up trading that for a Toyota Avensis after a conversation with his father.
@Jalan849 ай бұрын
I think you did a great job with this video. I am also into vintage cameras, and it's very much the same world as vintage watches. Its fun at first, but they are quite delicate and very expensive to repair. I recently sold all my vintage Leica because they kept having issues and had to be babied all the time. It made me realize that I don't think I can handle a vintage watch right now haha.
@makaan55169 ай бұрын
How are you having issues with a Leica? I own a single stroke M3 from 1963 for 15+ years. I’ve shot thousands of frames through it, and invested about $500 over the whole time (2x CLA). Runs smooth and perfect.
@johns681610 ай бұрын
Wise words from a still relatively young man who in a small way is hurting his business. I have a lot of fun with the 7 or 8 quartz watches that I can rotate thru. I am old enough to realize that I am too much of a mid-westerner to pay ~$400 to service a ~$1500 watch 5 years down the road. Thanks for the KZbin!
@a_z.tazzzfan849710 ай бұрын
14:32 - - Enjoyed the video and like all the categories mentioned; especially the last one. When it comes to a mortgage, I will pre-qualify myself before being pre-qualified by a lender. I add monthly expenses that a lender won't. Thus, knowing where I want to be even though the lender is much higher. This is the personal financial philosophy I've used since buying my first 🏡 back in the 80's: 1) Mortgage payment cannot exceed 20% of net income. 2) Car payment cannot exceed 30% of my monthly mortgage payment. 3) Normal watch price cannot exceed the equivalent of 2 car loan payments. 4) Special (high value) watch price cannot exceed the equivalent of 2 mortgage payments. 5) If I buy a watch using the "mortgage payment" rule; I have to sell a watch (or watches) to cover at least half the cost of the new one.
@CaptHotahКүн бұрын
1. If that was true then London would be a desert 😂
@brianyee550410 ай бұрын
Was in the business and was able to acquire a few rare/ high end pieces at incredibly low prices in the early mid 2000’s. The last “suck to own pieces” I unloaded was a Patek and 1680 Red Sub that I bought for under $5k. Both were “servicing” problems and I decided to offload them and roll the proceeds into contemporary Daytonas, lifting my collection out of the “STO” category. Relieved. Great video, Teddy. Totally related to it.
@1rightrev8 ай бұрын
Just finished watching 5 watches that suck to own while on my cycling trainer. Teddy, I am 70 YO and you are wise beyond your years. I am an amateur watch repair enthusiast and have collected quite a few vintage watches because I find them unbelievably cheap and antiques malls. And I am talking some NICE names. Right now on my wrist is a vintage Gruen automatic for which I paid less $5. It looks spectacular and runs great--now... :) But everything you say in your reviews is SPOT ON! You never come off like an arrogant watch snob; just matter of fact, and here's my opinion. Keep up the great work! (BTW, 3 weeks ago hitting some some church "Christmas bazaars" there was a tupper ware bowl with maybe 7 watches in it with a sign saying "For Free." I figured they would abll be very crappy quartz/fashion watches and they were--except the last one. Vintage Longines ladies watch, mechanical and 21 jewels. I end up giving a lot of my "learning watches" away. :)
@kunalshetty953810 ай бұрын
Teddy, what an absolutely fantastic video! Love that unlike other watch channels you always promote enjoying a watch as a personal thing than collecting obscenely expensive watches.
@Angelo-uo2gj10 ай бұрын
I live in an apartment complex and I have a neighbor who has a Porsche but doesn’t have a garage to park it in. That’s how I feel sometimes when I see someone with a watch brand that I know is beyond their means.
@wardog55373 ай бұрын
there are two types of people in this world. The first, own a good house, but their cars are old and beat to shit. The second, own a good car, but their home is old and beat to shit. In other words, it just depends on the person and what they prefer; so don't feel the need to raise your chin up at someone who just wants to buy something they enjoy
@yeedbottomtext75633 ай бұрын
@@wardog5537you forgot the third type of person: the one who owns both a nice car and a nice house.
@wardog55373 ай бұрын
@@yeedbottomtext7563 *specifically the middle class*
@averma32Ай бұрын
@@yeedbottomtext7563😂😂
@X11CHASE16 күн бұрын
@@yeedbottomtext7563you forgot the fourth..
@anno16027 ай бұрын
#5 is the real takeaway from this video. If you can barely afford it, you probably shouldn't buy it.
@cornpit774 ай бұрын
Thanks for the explanation on the vintage topic Teddy. Been wearing a vintage 1966 Omega Constellation as a dress watch when I had the original bead of rice bracelet repaired last September. I had to adjust the date. Took me 30min of winding it forward to get to the correct date. Now I know the watch doesn't have quick date. It's a great watch with a good history: my granddad was a navel officer until his early navy retirement and was asked to become captain on the big yacht of a Dutch wealthy indutrial. When he retired the guy gave his this watch and in my teen years I took notice of the watch. My dad got the watch when my granddad passed away and my dad gave it to me when he passed away, including ownership and guarantee papers and the broken bracelet. So it's a true family watch. Been getting many nice responses from people at work when I wear it. Accuracy and power reserve is pretty good for an almost 60 year old watch.
@chrisettle254510 ай бұрын
I've just experienced Point #5. I owned a Rolex 15505 for about 30 years. Bought when I was young and loved it, but as time went on I wore it less and less until it got to the point I just didn't like it any more; it's an all gold shelled affair, very ostentatious, and was not like me at all as a person. It was tough to part with it as it's been in my life for so long but I recently sold it at auction and feel so much better for doing so. The only down side is that model unfortunately does not go for Sub prices!
@eyeheartsushi221210 ай бұрын
You experienced it for 30 years and nothing can take away that from you. That’s all that matters.
@r3dsnow7579 ай бұрын
@@eyeheartsushi2212exactly, like most things we own in life we outgrow. The beauty of being a watch enthusiast also comes with the pleasure of seeing them live on. Pass it on to someone dear or sell it/trade it to a passionate person.
@MichaelHeinrich110 ай бұрын
I love the Rolex GMT Master II but beside it is hard to get, Point 5 would apply 100% to me. So i wear my Steinhart every day and feel very good with it. 😁
@MrKacperk10 ай бұрын
Steinhart is garbage my guy. Especially the clasp.
@MichaelHeinrich110 ай бұрын
@@MrKacperk 😎👍🏻
@Parallax-3D5 ай бұрын
@@MrKacperk- You know what they say about opinions.
@davidcathcart463510 ай бұрын
People getting into watch collecting should watch this video and others you have produced. When vintage watches need service you hope the parts are available to complete the service. When not you are stuck with a pretty cool watch that does not work. Spot on video as usual Teddy!
@fivedogsranch928810 ай бұрын
I’ve got in my watch box, all mechanical watches. Orient, Deep Blue and Seiko as daily beaters. Longines Spirit Chrono and Hydroconquest, Oris Big Crown Pro Pilot, Tudor BB GMT and a 1977 Rolex OysterDate. Lastly I have an all original 1973 Seiko “Pogue.” (My father’s first pilots watch.) The Seiko Pogue and Rolex OysterDate are cool to me, because I take a couple minutes each morning and wind them both to keep time and date so I’m not way behind if I let them sit for days or weeks. The Seiko does have a quick set date, but, to wind it you have to hold and rotate your hand. It is a true automatic movement. It does not wind at the crown. I could keep it in a winder, but I don’t have one. The Rolex doesn’t have quick set date and is also a true mechanical movement. So that one can take some winds setting the date, if you let it get behind. I enjoy keeping up with the watches and they all get worn. But of all my watches; it seems the Tudor is the most um controversial maybe. When I come across a horological snob, the first thing I hear is usually, “oh that’s a poor man’s Rolex.” Or the “Rolex wannabe!” I wouldn’t say those reactions would cause me to say owning that watch sucks, I’d say it brings out the suck in other people and there are many!
@Hard_7_Iron10 ай бұрын
Yes sir….the cost for a Seamaster Chrono service is minimum $750 a pop. The good news is they don’t require a ton of servicing. But even if only once every 10 years, it adds up. I bought mine 23 years ago…2 services cost what that watch RETAILED for originally. 😂 great point Teddy.
@jb67890110 ай бұрын
Agreed. My Rolex 16613 ("Sultan" c. 1998) cost me about $1100 to service a few years ago. Had it done by a Bucherer boutique...which sent it on to Rolex Geneva for the service/repair. I used to wear that watch daily during the first decade of ownership. Now, only on special occasions. I own too many other good "tool" watches for daily use...mostly automatics with ETA 2824, Valjoux 7750, or NH35/36 movements. These days, the Rolex has appreciated so much in value...I tend to worry about my arm...especially when on international travel. Same for a Glashutte Senator...special occasions where a nice dress watch makes sense. Else, they're spending time in the safe. As for quality...most of the tool watches that I own are both dependable and stylish.
@davidmulligan4210 ай бұрын
All great points to consider. Many people don't look at anything but the initial price of the watch, and can get bitten by service costs. As for vintage, I have quite a few watches from the '70s and '80s. Most of them were
@fdadrtrttewrt10 ай бұрын
As someone who collects vintage watches I can say I think I have put my watchmaker's kids through college. They break down a lot and not many people can fix them. In regards to the person who is afraid to wear their watch I had a buddy who had a royal oak and he would put a sweatband over it while wearing a suit at work. It always cracked me up lol
@HARIHARAN-ow6bw10 ай бұрын
Well said teddy, owning a basic or luxury Mechanical watch, the service cost comes as a nightmare
@nearlyretired70059 ай бұрын
No it doesn't! Stick to quartz then.
@chi-towncalifornia591610 ай бұрын
The servicing considerations, delicate nature and irreplaceability are among the reasons why I prefer contemporary homages to vintage watches, rather than vintage models themselves. You get all the heritage and old charm of vintage watches, with the technological improvements and dependability of modern watches.
@Txig77710 ай бұрын
Thank you for the video. As someone who is new to the watch game, this was definitely insightful. I’m glad I controlled my initial impulses and researched more before spending my money lol had I not, I would’ve been stuck with watches that are now at the bottom of my wish lists. Great work!
@boykaunlimitted451410 ай бұрын
Here’s another tip: create a list of rules you want to oblige to. Then whenever you see a watch, you check if it ticks all the boxes and then you decide to add it to your wish list or not.
@Txig77710 ай бұрын
@@boykaunlimitted4514 I appreciate that! That’s a great idea.
@craigriley989210 ай бұрын
That list is ever changing. You will see more watches, learn about new brands, and that list will grow and change. That's the problem. Definitely do your homework.
@Hempage10 ай бұрын
I always appreciate that you regularly encourage people NOT to buy too much watch for their income.
@PurpleProton1176 ай бұрын
I bought a Seiko on sale for $275 and sadly dropped it taking it off, and broke the crystal glass after only like a month of ownership. Called Seiko and it was going to be over $300 for the service & fix... INSANE. Ended up going with a local jeweler and they charged for $75 for the replacement crystal and labor.
@SteveBoniface-u7w10 ай бұрын
Great article…. So many excellent thoughts on the reality of watch ownership. Now I have retired and no longer wear a watch to the office I certainly think twice about what watch from my collection I wear just going to the shops with the rise in watch crime…. It has taken the edge off my enjoyment from wearing some of my higher end watches. On the flip side I have found pleasure in wearing lower end watches that I had previously not considered, and actually found great enjoyment in wearing, classic example is my Casio Mission Impossible watch. Thank you for such a thought provoking piece.
@MrGeirSteinar10 ай бұрын
The Mission Impossible is dead cool - I love mine 👍
@Zelma-j4nАй бұрын
Picked up a MAMACOO's watch as my first watch last month and I’m absolutely in love with it. Perfect size, looks elegant, very comfortable. Now my only problem is holding off from buying more watches so quickly!
@tizombie10 ай бұрын
Great advice. I have a 2023 Submariner and a 2023 Speedmaster Professional Moonwatch in my collection along with a bunch of less costly watches that I just like. In the just like camp are three Vostoks. I’d add buy what you like and wear what makes you happy.
@prolificpeasant100710 ай бұрын
This is full of great takes. I feel a lot of this as I have a few watches that I dread picking up and wearing. I find myself looking towards my higher end quartz or no date autos since they just require so much less to put on and go
@friskjidjidoglu74158 ай бұрын
Vostoks are a very fair example here. I don’t discourage people from getting them, but I do always tell them the negatives so that they can have realistic expectations and just be an overall informed consumer about it. I like mine, but i don’t look forward to getting them fixed. But it’ll be a labor of love.
@susuomlu778410 ай бұрын
Great video. One more point from me: Watch from your loved ones. I have my grandpa's GMT and I am so scared to even wear it.
@the_once-and-future_king.10 ай бұрын
But that situation is different. The sentimental value is more than the monetary value. A reluctance to wear an heirloom piece is perfectly understandable, indeed some might say preferable because it can never be replaced. The big issue is were someone buys a Grail watch and it never leaves the watch box.
@XirenDiogo26 күн бұрын
My watch was purchased 2 years ago from amzwatch and, to this day, it still looks and runs as well as it did the day it arrived. That movement has never missed a beat despite never having been serviced. I can't complain about that.
@RabbitWatchShop10 ай бұрын
Build a relationship with a good watchmaker. Most of these issues won’t be a problem. I love my watchmaker. He can solve any problem, and gives me fair prices. It also helps to learn how to make small repairs, or to swap out movements. I repair and mod watches. I take care of most of my issues, but when I can’t, I have my trusty watchmaker.
@jorgsofi10 ай бұрын
I bought a mechanical Oris watch with their Calibre 400 movement. Sole complication is a countdown bezel. 10-year warranty and 10-year service intervals. Reputable Swiss brand established in 1904. No brainer.
@artlayton142510 ай бұрын
about 40 years ago, I bought a Rolex Submariner for $750. I finally sold it because of the servicing costs. About every 3 to 5 years I had to spend about $700 for a tune-up.
@nearlyretired70059 ай бұрын
If you had to have it serviced every three years then you had a defective watch,or you have been hyped by Rolex Oh dear!
@artlayton14259 ай бұрын
I didn't have to have it serviced. Somehow the time was inaccurate by 5-10 minutes which prompted sending it to Rolex for service.
@theleastsignificantbit47949 ай бұрын
I started with inexperienced watches and gradually moved “upstream.” I own a WWII ORD watch from my dad and a Hamilton 992B railroad watch-I’ll wear them but not often. I kept my two vintage watches but sold all my expensive watches. I wear a slightly modded SNK809 most of the time. I’ve become attached to the SNK809. Usually you develop a deep love for a beater because it’s with you most of the time. I still follow what goes on in the watch community, but it’s like watching a football game without your team playing-emotionless and stress free.
@Ted_Kenzoku10 ай бұрын
For the affordable watches with expensive complications to service, people don't service the movement but just change it for a new one. a SeaGull ST1901 chronograph movement is around 100$ for a new one and any repair shop can swap the movement in your watch for the new one for the tourbillon it's the ST8230 but it's a little harder to find, i couldn't find a replacement for sale, but there are watches using the movement that can go under 250$ new for the whole watch. so at this point just buy a new watch for 250$ and you either keep it or take the movement out of it to replace yours it's the same for watches using Seiko NH35 family of movements, nobody services a Seiko NH35 when the movement itself is worth 30$ and you can just swap it for a new one.
@JYLee-rr1sy6 ай бұрын
When you are deep into a subject, study the material, investigate the history, and have a passion for the matter, it shows. Teddy's analysis and list of 5 types of watches that suck to own is pristine in my humble opinion. His understanding of watches, how it impacts the owner/collector, is squarely on point. Quite well done.
@Senrender10 ай бұрын
Teddy, this is an insightful video. Many watch buyers (and owners) seem to be ignorant about the cost of maintaining your watch. It's funny how we spend a bundle looking after our car and seem clueless that a watch sometimes needs the same thing! Great and ESSENTIAL video.❤
@Claude110010 ай бұрын
Definitely the best advice, for any wouid be potentially watch collector.. In fact any comsumer item... Absolutely TJT .. that's top job Ted ..🤘🏼
@JalelTounsi10 ай бұрын
From all my watches the one I wear most is the gshock because it's give me true freedom : freedom to move and do whatever I need and want to do, it's always "atomic clock synchronized", never breaks, sun powered and it's gorgeous. Our watches should not be a reflection of our bank account but of what makes us happy
@JustMeTalking10 ай бұрын
Yep, I agree. I have G-Shock MRG watches that I love to wear during the day. Then Grand Seiko watches for the evenings.
@sinantatlidil-z6m7 ай бұрын
I totally agree with all the comments. Can’t be explained better. I learned this in time you summarised my 5 year knowledge and decisions. 🎉🎉
@aarons.watches10 ай бұрын
Teddy, so glad you mentioned no quick set date on vintage watches… IT SUUUUUCKS😂
@gagekemsley72369 ай бұрын
A $20 automatic watch winder is a game changer, my guy. I'd highly recommend.
@likeskittysАй бұрын
Definitely agree with the last point. It goes for anything, if you are afraid of using it, it's not going to bring you much joy just sitting in a drawer.
@KillingTimeWithNorman9 ай бұрын
Turtleneck Teddy!! -- Great video! My collection is mostly comprised of vintage pieces - You're spot on regarding the pain in owning those... but they are so amazing, I can't help myself. lol
@KarthikS3071210 ай бұрын
Thank you Ted. There's a MrWonderful who recently started a watch insurance business just so you can wear a watch and not be afraid of losing it in use or travel.
@JohnMcKelvie10 ай бұрын
yes, but have you ever tried to (a) lodge a theft with the police and (b) lodge a claim with an insurer ... it doesn't take just 5 minutes. It's the exact opposite of waiting for the courier when you've bought a new watch. Often the insurer will wait a length of time just in case it's swept up within greater events. Donate a Casio (which is probably the most accurate GMT you'll ever own) when you're at risk.
@gotshpilkes10 ай бұрын
The service price includes replacing the movement for a basic NH series Seiko, Seagull, and even ETA clones. When I service my own watches, that's what I do. An Omega or Rolex is a completely different convo. I've been limiting new purchases to watches that are user serviceable *for me*. I'm also seeing more value in quartz watches, especially solar power.
@НапримерПетрСмирнов10 ай бұрын
Quartz movements can tick for decades without issues, and most of them aren't serviceable anyway, so you only need to change batteries every 2-10 years (or even more rarely if it's solar).
@hb914510 ай бұрын
@bimotavdue4129 I just changed my second movement in a Seiko Sportura that I have owned for 17 years, so at least mine did.
@imarioiv10 ай бұрын
My Omega AT Small Seconds was one watch I was “afraid to wear” then like most watches I own, got my first ding and scratch and now I wear it far more often than I initially did when I bought it 6 months ago.
@alexmetliss690410 ай бұрын
Yep I can attest to this! I have owned my AT since 2019, initially babied it but eventually got its fair share of slight knocks etc.. Less precious about it now, but still take the time to be aware it’s on my wrist
@TomxLuk2210 ай бұрын
I ding my watch and scratch them all the time, i try my best not too but it happen naturally. Funny thing js that I remember majority of those accident kind of fun.
@nearlyretired70059 ай бұрын
Afraid to wear a watch....that's sad.
@imarioiv9 ай бұрын
@@nearlyretired7005 I agree!
@aftbit10 ай бұрын
This is a pretty good list. I'll add one more type - the watch that you just don't like but has sentimental value. I have a few watches in my collection that I will probably never sell, but I will also never wear, because I just don't like how they look on me, or I've moved on to other styles and brands.
@MrAndy7610110 ай бұрын
Number 5 is an interesting proposition. I can wear my current pieces without much thought, but if I got my grail would I be quite so chill? Not sure.
@danielepoli55674 ай бұрын
Great video! I completely agree. I also like your point about conditions being personal to each of us. I own watches that check many of your boxes but treasure them dearly. Some of my watches are from my dad (1960s) and my grandad (pre-1940). They were tools back then and not bought for status or anything. It shows now: they are small and look dated. They are not worth the money I spent servicing them, they are delicate (waterproof? 😂), I am absolutely terrified to wear them (I’d be crushed if I lose them, if they break, I’d just fix them again), and sometimes they stop so not all that reliable. But I love them. They are mine, and they will go to my kids. They talk about our history. Thanks for the video!
@luizadame738210 ай бұрын
“You don’t own the watch the watch owns you” Brilliant
@stevenwoo288110 ай бұрын
Great information about owning watches. I only buy watches less than a thousand dollars so I never worry about damage or loss but if someone is a collector of expensive luxury watches then I can understand that person being more careful. Look forward to the next video and enjoy the rest of the holiday weekend.
@USASMR-o2c10 ай бұрын
There is a 6th category that wasn't mentioned. Watches with modular movements. Instead of being repaired, these watches are fit with a whole new movement and you pay much more for it. I used to have a speedy that was like that, and as soon as I found out it had a modular movement, I sold it.
@TheWatchDoggg10 ай бұрын
The speedy reduced? It was on the top of my list and when I found out that modular movements can break easier I stopped liking it
@USASMR-o2c10 ай бұрын
@TheWatchDoggg yes, the omega Co-Axial Chronometer Chronograph 38 mm... avoid those like the plague
@TheWatchDoggg10 ай бұрын
@@USASMR-o2c agreed. What a shame
@velvetjones185610 ай бұрын
One would think a quartz watch would be fairly trouble free but my Breitling Explorer II costs $600-800 for the factory to service and replace the battery that always seems to come with a new set of hands and crystal. I haven't sent my Tudor or Rolex watches off for non-warranty service yet.
@velvetjones185610 ай бұрын
Correction, it is an Aerospace II. My mind is on a Rolex Explorer II on wait list at dealer along with Daytona, both in stainless white dials.
@CarlosGambino_2210 ай бұрын
@@velvetjones1856Breitling service are really expensive .
@ousi009 ай бұрын
The "afraid to wear it" is definitely an issue, especially in the US these days (I live in San Francisco area) - which is also an issue with my sports cars that I only drive them in the morning during weekend. I can only wear my white gold or platinum watches in Japan or other countries that are safe, or at venue that are well guarded (e.g. someone's wedding). They are enjoyable to wear especially that heft and being much more shiny than stainless steel ones. Anyway... I wear the lesser known/flashy ones like the Explorer or Explorer II or Hublot carbotech or Sekio Superior especially during summer. In winter I can hide them under the long sleeves. For areas I know that might get me into trouble I rock my titanium G-Shock. It's just messed up how unsafe the US is these days.
@msk39059 ай бұрын
"Afraid" to wear it immediately classifies it as a piece of jewelry
@derekbrettell812110 ай бұрын
Hi Teddy, All good points as always. On point 5 - losing any material item won't change anyones world as you put it. You will still live and breathe. However, if you've overspent on the watch and have too much money tied up in the watch, then it will hurt if it burns as you put it. Personally, I've never understood people buying a watch they are afraid to wear. What on earth is the point!? If you've bought it for investment purposes then you need a better accountant.
@kristensorensen221910 ай бұрын
Love the new Marathon quartz! My support to Teddy entertaining me. Marithon was selling at 20% off so that $100 was a Teddy donation. I love my Invicta COSC that cost $700. Ceramic quatrz under $400! Dad left me a Patec super thin 18k manual and it put $$ in my account!
@Youtubeuser1aa10 ай бұрын
You sold a watch your dad Passed along to you?
@anthonyiadarola12019 ай бұрын
People that buy luxury watches that have the money to do so they shouldn’t need to worry about servicing costs
@kingnuthin239 ай бұрын
Exactly
@wowlsj10 ай бұрын
Love your good Ole "midwestern" common sense approach and advise. Keep 'em coming, it's helped me shape good collecting. (My favorite Teddyism is "nobody cared about your damn watch"😂cracks me up every time!
@rogersmoot61947 ай бұрын
I have viewed many hosts presenting their opinions related to the watch industry, but I enjoy your vides above all others, Teddy. If and when I decide to make such a purchase, I will surely contact you.
@silversurfie10 ай бұрын
Setting my longines triple calendar chrono is kind of crappy every time.
@MotoSjaak10 ай бұрын
Buy a watch winder
@mtestoni15 ай бұрын
I have owned Omegas, Tags, Longines, Concords and Rolexes all great watches, all extremely costly just to clean, leaving servicing out the picture. Now my favorite watches are Citizen, Seiko and Casio. All great durable watches that I wear daily, don't worry about life scars and costly servicing. My watches are tools, not jewelry or look at me items. Great video and content.
@silveriver910 ай бұрын
I love my Sea-gull. It proudly sits between my rolex and omega.
@eyeheartsushi221210 ай бұрын
I like mine, too, but it wears too small on my wrist so I’ll sell it.
@MilosJeremic198310 ай бұрын
@@eyeheartsushi2212just buy bigger one
@DogDoc19915 ай бұрын
Good points. I do own a vintage watch that I wear frequently-a mid-80’s Tudor Day Date. It was a gift from my parents when I graduated vet school and I found it at Tourneau in NYC. It gets sent back to Rolex for servicing about every 10 years and the service usually costs more than the watch did when it was purchased. But it has great sentimental value, I love seeing it on my wrist, and I will never part with it.
@unaibb10 ай бұрын
When common sense combines with passion about watches, well done Teddy!
@robertschmidt958410 ай бұрын
Sometimes common sense doesn’t factor in getting a watch, but best done within reason!
@unaibb10 ай бұрын
@@robertschmidt9584 really few times is a factor
@frankw726610 ай бұрын
Servicing does play a big part in my decision on buying a watch.... it's either a throw-away, or it's going to be worth service, but the "middle-ground" watches are a hard sell for me. Since I pretty much keep a service value of $500 in my head, and I refuse to pay more than a third of the value of a watch in service cost, that means to me any watch under $500 is the throw-away, $1500 plus is fine, but any watch between that $500 to $1500 is usually a no-go. This can, and has, eliminated a lot of potentially nice pieces, but it's just how I am psychologically.
@geraldrandall15667 ай бұрын
I own a Nautilus. Have had it for about 8 years and I have worn it 5 times. It isn’t flashy, but recognisable and with crime around I only wear it on special occasions where there is plenty of security around. I enjoy the watch, but rarely wear it. I also have a rare Vacheron which I no longer wear. It attracts to much attention. Truth is that I slap on my Batman, Sea Dweller or even my G Shock in many cases, if they were burned in the drive. It wouldn’t change my life. But, some watches I just cannot wear in the world in which we live. Teddy, you are very correct in this video. I agree with you fully on reasons not to own watches. I do still like a vintage watch. I actually have a few watches made in the same year I was born. But, that is just for fun and I do recognise that getting people to work on them isn’t easy. It takes great watch makers and they come at a cost. But, for me it is an indulgence I can live with.
@anderspedersen748810 ай бұрын
This video is an instant all-time classic. Pretty much unavoidable if you are serious about your watch(es).
@jimkrause24169 ай бұрын
Wise advice. That’s why I sold my submariner. I rarely wore it since I retired during the wu flu. The few places I would go to were either remote or near a downtown area. Anymore, both are somewhat dicey.
@Rm-se2ns3 ай бұрын
I have 4 watches. All worth under a few hundred dollars each. I realized after I found this channel that I am a collector of economic time management devices. I even bought a nice little collection case for them a few years back. They are all quartz watches and need batteries. Last time I bought batteries it was for all of them at the same time. Yes, they all died within hours of each other. I showed my wife and we got a laugh out of it. I do like them very much. Since I started watching Youtude videos on watch collecting and repair I have been very intrigued about taking this a little motre seriously. Still thinking about it but sounds enjoyable. This video was helpful.
@patricktoohey83109 ай бұрын
Teddy says, "You don't own that watch...it owns you." That was great!
@bandoiler10 ай бұрын
As someone who collects only vintage watches I completely agree with your assessment of having to baby the watches all time, service is more frequent and costs a lot, but i just can’t relate to contemporary watches… so its either this or no watches at all. I guess vintage or contemporary it all boils down to how much money one can afford to put into this hobby and what you are looking to get out of it that matters. As long as one stays in those limits and you feel good abt yourself its all good!
@corsettiluningАй бұрын
Can’t beat gold polished Roman numerals that sparkle like jewels in the sunlight. Loving the sun ray dial man that pops! amzwatch watches. What a beautiful subtle piece.
@WatchUnwind8 ай бұрын
I recently downsized my collection into far less watches but watches of higher price point and quality. Servicing costs definitely played into this decision. I want to focus on my favorite watches I can own for life and put the time, effort, and money into these watches only