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Tudor Black Bay 58 vs. Pelagos 39 - Which 39mm Tudor Dive Watch Is Better For You?

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Teddy Baldassarre

Teddy Baldassarre

Жыл бұрын

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In this video, we'll compare the popular and established Black Bay 58 to the new Pelagos 39 that was released a few months ago. We'll use a points system based on eleven specific areas of comparison in an attempt to create an objective way to determine which watch is right for you. What are your thoughts on these smaller dive watches from Tudor?
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@vantage789
@vantage789 Жыл бұрын
I've had the BB58 in black/gilt for about 4 months and it has robbed me of dozens of hours of my life just staring at it. I swear it gets a bit nicer each time I look at it and the dial looks a little different in every lighting situation. Damn you Tudor!
@BrianJones-cu2sx
@BrianJones-cu2sx Жыл бұрын
That’s cool man. I’ve been thinking about it. Part of me wants one just so I can personalize it via character over years. Something about a sub with dings and scratches and worn patina just looks so nice to me
@notDonaldFagen
@notDonaldFagen Жыл бұрын
Same, I got mine mid-August and ended up canceling my entire rotation and wore it every day, all day, sometimes to bed. I had to promise myself that I'd go back to the rest of my babies in the new year. That was my 2023 resolution, to wear my other watches again 😄. Now, the days that I wear something else, I swap back the 58 when I get home after work, and wear it all weekend.
@melody3741
@melody3741 Жыл бұрын
@@BrianJones-cu2sx BE CAREFUL. Once you realize all the shit you miss out on because they are afraid of stepping on the subs tows it will kill you. Hands are an opinion but was specifically for this purpose not for aesthetics. Bezel was changed to gold because it was less accurate to old subs. No micro adjustment. No period accurate endlinks or clasp, even just visually. Crown is flat and slippery as all hell. They specifically made it worse because they want the sub to be a fancy hype club.
@HAlariousInc
@HAlariousInc 4 ай бұрын
@@BrianJones-cu2sxModern Tudors/Rolex post maxi case designs don’t really patina as much as pre maxi cases though. They’re made to consistently look modern
@najim3000
@najim3000 Жыл бұрын
Teddy is out here reading our minds and making the video we need. ❤
@amenhotep7704
@amenhotep7704 Жыл бұрын
LIKE FOR REAL
@base853
@base853 Жыл бұрын
Great video. The toughest choices are when there is “no wrong” option! I went with the Pelagos 39 for exactly what you described…I wanted the contemporary “interpretation” of a Tudor Sub versus a modern remake…it’s a subtle difference and both watches are rad! No wrong choice here!
@TeddyBaldassarre
@TeddyBaldassarre Жыл бұрын
You sum it up well. That is exactly what the Pelagos represents in my opinion. Enjoy the Pelagos!
@duprazsnow9057
@duprazsnow9057 Жыл бұрын
Also it have a crowns protection case more :)
@Sergio_Math
@Sergio_Math Жыл бұрын
The winner for me would be the Pelagos 39, specially if they eventually release one in blue. The square markers, chapter ring that doesn't interrupt the color and the more matte finish are definite winners in my book.
@Jeepsteve1982
@Jeepsteve1982 9 ай бұрын
+titanium is cool
@jackarnold3290
@jackarnold3290 6 күн бұрын
Same thoughts. Bought Pelagos 39 Black. Love it. Will buy BB 58 Blue pre-owned for better price instead of waiting for Pelagos 39 Blue for a lot more money.
@denniskwok7613
@denniskwok7613 Жыл бұрын
The wearability for me goes to the P39. The centre links of the bracelet fully articulate, the T-Fit on the fly adjustment is brilliant and unlike on the BB58 clasp, the first link doesn't foul on the clasp body making it actually better for small wrists. Factor in the lower mass and the lack of micro adjusts and half links on the 58 and for me, the P39 more than edges it.
@lirrfan3879
@lirrfan3879 Жыл бұрын
I have the BB58 with black gilt dial. I absolutely love it. If the Pelagos 39 was in steel, I would buy it too. I just don’t like how titanium feels on my wrist.
@hjkhhjkh3635
@hjkhhjkh3635 9 күн бұрын
Hey, do you mind explaining why you don’t like titanium on your wrist? I want to hear your take on it to see if it’s something that would bother me. I briefly tried it on and it seemed fine, but I’m interested in your take on it.
@lirrfan3879
@lirrfan3879 9 күн бұрын
@@hjkhhjkh3635 Sure! I just feel that titanium is a bit too light. I like a little bit of heft in a watch.
@hjkhhjkh3635
@hjkhhjkh3635 7 күн бұрын
@@lirrfan3879 oh I see. I guess it’s a bit of a change if you’re used to the typical Tudor bb gmt weight 😂 these things are absolute tanks
@drnick40
@drnick40 Жыл бұрын
I have the blue 58. The Pelagos is a different watch. I like my 58 and for $1500 less at todays realistic market prices it is the better watch hands down. However after a year or two the gray market Pelagos prices will make it a hell of a bargain and I definitely will add it to my Tudors. Merry Christmas to everyone!
@TeddyBaldassarre
@TeddyBaldassarre Жыл бұрын
Merry Christmas, Nikola. Thanks for watching!
@drnick40
@drnick40 Жыл бұрын
@@TeddyBaldassarre Merry Christmas Teddy! Thanks for your hard work and dedication!
@jlarsson1978
@jlarsson1978 Жыл бұрын
I own both (the black BB58 and Pelagos 39). Completely different watches. The BB58 is a dressy sports watch that works well in most situations. The Pelagos 39 is much more of a tool watch, more sporty, lighter but with much sharper edges (the clasp is extremely sharp). The Pelagos disappears on wrist due to the light weight (although more uncomfortable when touching it due to the sharp edges). Love both and can't really say one is better than the other. The Pelagos has a more modern look and the clasp micro adjustment is great. If you often wear a suit I would go for the BB58. The Pelagos is more aggressively sporty if that makes sense. Finishing is better on the BB58. Both gives you a submariner-esque look while still being very unique. When I bought the BB58 I thought it was the perfect watch. Didn't get that feeling with the Pelagos (mostly because the finishing is not as good) but it is really really good. It really boils down to classy versus sporty. Both watches are awesome value!
@seattlegrrlie
@seattlegrrlie Жыл бұрын
I have the BB58 in Blue and fully intend to add the Pelagos. It's different enough, it's modern, I'll wear it on the rubber 99% of the time. My BB lives on nato
@JJ-fb1pw
@JJ-fb1pw Жыл бұрын
Have both, keep the Pelagos on rubber - it is the way to best enjoy the Pelagos. It weighs 74/5 grams on rubber and that's what makes it a game changer.
@satherton
@satherton Жыл бұрын
I tried mine on rubber and never really enjoyed it that way. The rubber is way too sticky for everyday use so the keepers are a pain to slide on and off (I understand that might be desirable while diving, but my SMP300 rubber strap is WAY better). It was also either a touch too tight or too loose without the microadjust. And the watch just felt too light in my opinion on the rubber. Felt like a toy vs having some wrist presence. I'd still take the Pelagos over the BB58 - for some reason I just don't care for the look of the 58 even though I know it's way more versatile.
@chrisgotti279
@chrisgotti279 Жыл бұрын
Wow Teddy, what a nice holiday surprise. This video is very informative and helpful with the struggling decision between the Black Bay 58 and the Pelagos 39.
@TeddyBaldassarre
@TeddyBaldassarre Жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful! I imagine this being a big question for many for years to come.
@timepiece_enthusiast
@timepiece_enthusiast Жыл бұрын
I inquired for both, BB58 and Pelagos 39 at my AD, since both are beautiful. Finally received my Pelagos 39 last month. Last week I got the call for the BB58 and I declined, since the spot for a Tudor diver in my collection is already occupied by the Pelagos. Although it was unfamiliar at first (being my first titanium watch) I love the lightweight nature of the material, it’s so comfortable to wear all day. Also the lume is amazing and i really dig the sunburst bezel and the slight grey shade the grade 2 titanium has. Overall a great watch and I’m not sad I skipped the BB58 as I’m looking forward to put the money I saved on that into an Explorer 124270!
@salukibeancounter9589
@salukibeancounter9589 Жыл бұрын
Great review, as always. I own the BB58 gilt and love it. I also have a 6.25" wrist so the 39mm size is more appropriate for me. The rose gold edges help to dress up the watch when needed. Merry Christmas to all.
@nathanjay7817
@nathanjay7817 Жыл бұрын
Got the call for a 39mm Pelagos yesterday. Already own a black BB58. Perfect timing with the video.
@josevasquez1781
@josevasquez1781 Жыл бұрын
I recently purchased the P39 and I have zero regrets cause it's has great design,materials and super light while being so comfortable.
@jackarnold3290
@jackarnold3290 6 күн бұрын
Me too!
@Marco-vy9hc
@Marco-vy9hc Жыл бұрын
My wife calls me crazy but I have the exact two watches of this video. BB58 Blue since 2020 and the Pelagos 39 is a Christmas present 2022. For me two totally different watches, one with heritage and charme, and one modern and to the point in all aspects. Great review Teddy, just in time for the arrival of my Pelagos. I am definitely in bucket 3, both watches! Happy holidays
@themacrofolks863
@themacrofolks863 Жыл бұрын
which do you wear more?
@jackarnold3290
@jackarnold3290 6 күн бұрын
Good call to get both, I will do the same. Money is why since I can have the BB58 Blue Pre-Owned for a better price. Love the Pelagos 39 Titanium.
@ajmarion
@ajmarion Жыл бұрын
I actually just bought a BB58 Gilt yesterday! I tried on the Pelagos 39 while I was there, and that wears incredibly as well. Can’t go wrong with either one.
@JensPeterLiljegren
@JensPeterLiljegren Жыл бұрын
Got my Pelagos 39 fourteen days ago. The clasp is fantastic. Fits like a dream even though it was not possible to remove an equal amount of links on either side of the clasp. The easy adjustment system works flawlessly. According to precision it is ticking accurately. (It has lost 2 seconds in eleven days - Daily wearing without deliberate positioning). The criticism concerning the slightly weaker lume of the hands in comparison with the hour markers is absolutely justified. Was never a dealbreaker for me, though, since this drawback was mentioned in the early reviews of the watch. Fancy the colour of the powerful lume. This is the utility watch that the (iconic) Rolex Submariner used to be. At half the retail price, which makes it a true daily wearer. Still, the only right watch is the one you wear😎
@sgilmour22
@sgilmour22 11 ай бұрын
I think one point that should have been directly addressed is how each fit within a collection. The Black Bay strikes me as the better pick if you have one great watch, or perhaps even a 2 watch collection, due to its better versatility. That said, I chose the Pelagos 39 because to me it is the ultimate “weekend watch”. I’m fortunate enough to have multiple interesting watches I can wear and so versatility isn’t what I’m after - rather I wanted something that is a little more focused and I leave the heritage aspect to actual vintage watches.
@ZakBoxer
@ZakBoxer Жыл бұрын
A blue Pelagos 39 would be sick!
@ehuntley83
@ehuntley83 Жыл бұрын
Both are brilliant watches, really hard to go wrong no matter what you choose. I recently picked up a Pelagos 39 and I adore it. The clasp is large, but having owned a couple Seamaster 300m’s maybe I’m used to enormous clasps on my small wrist? Either way, it hasn’t been as much of an issue as I thought it might be. That being said, I tried a silver BB the other day and I might have to add that to the collection soon 😊 Tudor has been killing it recently. Great video as always! 🙏
@marcgirard7551
@marcgirard7551 Жыл бұрын
Great reply! Can I ask you a few questions? How big is your wrist and how do you feel about the Pelagos 39 versus the Seamaster 300's you have?
@apanteli
@apanteli Жыл бұрын
Cool video, thanks Teddy, I am one of the ones who prefer the Pelagos 39
@Essenence
@Essenence Жыл бұрын
Just got a BB58 in blue recently, it’s great! 🙌
@matium1528
@matium1528 Жыл бұрын
Pelagos for me is the winner by far and is actually more versatile because titanium wears better in any condition. Wearing a Titanium can be more comfortable than anything, you can literally forget about having a watch on your wrist because of this. Another plus for Titanium is that it is Hypoallergenic! This means that you can run till you drop, dance till you drop, hump or do whatever you want till you drop and your Titanium will not cause skin rash or something because perspiration. What can i say..i'm a Titanium fanboy ^^
@giacomogalbiati3734
@giacomogalbiati3734 Жыл бұрын
BB58 is very nice, perfect for everyday use. But feels like something designed to look good, surfing the wave of vintage inspired watches. The Pelagos is just how the Tudor Submariner could have evolved if its production never ended. Feels like made for purpose. Waited for a 40mm version of it for years, and the P39 looks just right: nothing more than what is needed in a tool watch, without being nostalgic...unless we think that wearing a mechanial watch is somehow nostalgic anyway...P39 is the right choice for me! Greetings
@clementmartin1593
@clementmartin1593 Жыл бұрын
Agreed. I think the Pelagos will age better in our heart while the BB58 is trendy now with his heritage look but this trend will fade away imo.
@giacomogalbiati3734
@giacomogalbiati3734 Жыл бұрын
@@clementmartin1593 Agree. Sill a nice watch!
@MediaTruth
@MediaTruth Жыл бұрын
My vote is for the Pelagos. I have the Pelagos LHD and it is a beautiful piece.
@JamesL88
@JamesL88 Жыл бұрын
Love this kind of content. So much attention to detail. If I'm ever in the market for a Tudor dive watch a few years from now, likely I'll be back to rewatch this video. Thanks again Teddy
@Khanh.Nguyen369
@Khanh.Nguyen369 Жыл бұрын
My former BB was my adventure watch. So I definitely used it for what it was meant for. Diving. Climbing. Camping. Such a good every day watch. Waiting for my Pelagos.
@andywilliams4887
@andywilliams4887 Жыл бұрын
These are both marvellous watches, with similar specs and dimensions but very different characters. I own both the gilt and blue versions of the BB58 and they share wrist time with my 20-year old Rolex Sub date 16610, so you can tell my penchant for this type of diver. They go well with any attire and certainly a suit. The Pelagos is a cool more sporty addition, but the clasp is too long IMO and when I tried one on it felt a too light on my wrist for my taste. I may consider one if they bring out a blue version in steel.
@philw4053
@philw4053 Жыл бұрын
Hey Teddy. Usually agree with most of what you say. But I think your scoring was skewed by the fact you own one! The Pelegos would be the quite obvious choice of the two for me. By the way - hats off to you for converting a passion into such a thriving business. You're obviously living the dream. Well done.
@humblegent4741
@humblegent4741 8 ай бұрын
Perfect video for my situation right now. I was deciding between the Ranger and either the BB58 or Pelagos 39. I think I've settled on the Pelagos. I went to my local AD to try both on. The BB58 fits great and looks amazing, but the Pelagos, with its titanium build, T-fit clasp, no rivets, lumed bezel, and ceramic bezel ultimately won me over.
@jackarnold3290
@jackarnold3290 6 күн бұрын
Same. Bought the Pelagos 39 Titanium and am very pleased.
@Philippe_R
@Philippe_R Жыл бұрын
Received a call from my local AD for the Pelagos 39. Will take a look at it tomorrow and make a decision whether to buy it or not 🤷🏻‍♂️
@gogs9240
@gogs9240 Жыл бұрын
Picked up my Pelagos 39 yesterday I’m very happy with it. Love your videos Teddy have a great Xmas
@ericgrace9995
@ericgrace9995 Жыл бұрын
I'd like to compliment you on the content you make. You're one of the *watch guys* whose content I routinely watch and trust. So thanks, and have a Happy Christmas 🎄 !
@MillerVanDotTV
@MillerVanDotTV Жыл бұрын
I want a nice diver (I don’t dive) and I’m interested in trying Titanium. Always loved the BB58 size but never wanted the “vintage” or “couldn’t swing a Sub” look. Time to go try on the new smaller Pelagos.🛸.
@chriscon8463
@chriscon8463 Жыл бұрын
The bracelet on my BB58 is very high quality, but it wears weird on the underside of my wrist. I even tried an Uncle Seiko half-link. The long scissor arms & lack of articulation makes it effectively 50mm+. I got a Forstner “O” & it’s so much more comfortable!
@jamess8175
@jamess8175 Жыл бұрын
The Pelagos 42mm is the real deal, 500m with helium escape valve. Solid construction with thick walls inside. Not the mini Pelagos.
@vuelvoel2011
@vuelvoel2011 3 ай бұрын
no.
@unchainthewolves
@unchainthewolves Жыл бұрын
Great video and good timing! I’m planning on getting the black/gilt BB58 next week, I just love the color contrast.
@Nefville
@Nefville Жыл бұрын
I agree, good call with that clasp. Because on my Tudor the clasp really is longer than the l2l of the watch and I hate that about it.
@Will67267
@Will67267 7 ай бұрын
I went with the Tudor Pelagos 39 for its modern take on Tudor Sub. It works well on my 3 watch collection. Reverso Classic, Rolex 36 OP black and this Tudor 39. The BB 58 in black works well as a 1 watch collection.
@DionieannGohari
@DionieannGohari 4 күн бұрын
Thank you for making high quality videos!Love amzwatch ’s watches
@ppbur
@ppbur Жыл бұрын
I wanted a BB58 and was undecided between the 925 and the bronze but finally got the P39 as soon as it came out. The issue for me with the BB58 is that every iteration had an imperfection: The gilt has that fake gold feeling, blue is a bit too bland, silver doesn't have a bracelet and the bronze should have come in dial/bezel colours of the larger bronze models (grey/blue).
@ugabrew
@ugabrew Жыл бұрын
Having worn both of these and currently owning one, I think you nailed every matchup and did a great job covering the small differences between these two. Both are excellent watches for the money.
@TheGunDude
@TheGunDude Жыл бұрын
Blue bay 58 is one of the best watches offered today. Especially considering the price. I love the pelagos because of the square markers but the overall style is better from the bb58
@dyios
@dyios Ай бұрын
It was a tough one. I love the Pelagos 39 as I love a simpler and black/white design. But when I saw it in real life, the bezel is not entirely black, it’s kinda light grey/silverish at some angles as compared to the photos on the internet. I prefer BB58’s circular markers too instead of P39’s. So I ultimately went for the BB58!
@THEpirateshunter
@THEpirateshunter Жыл бұрын
I would choose the black bay imo. However, I think some people (maybe collectors) are tired of the flashy look and just want something simple to look at which is not always a bad thing of course. the pelagos is more friendly for daily use since it is more durable and also has an extra strap. When you look at it from this POV I think even people who are not into collecting watches would be more into it for the reasons I mentioned above.
@bipennate
@bipennate Жыл бұрын
For me, it basically boils down to design consistency - the circular markers on the BB58 conflicts with the squarish snowflake hand, imo, where the Pelagos has a more cohesive design with block markers. I used to not like the snowflake, but I like it on the Pelagos. Not that you can go wrong with either, of course, but for me it's the Pelagos 39.
@giusepperocchi2979
@giusepperocchi2979 Жыл бұрын
It’s like saying the Submariner’s circular hour hand conflicts with the rectangular and triangular markers, and still In both cases it just works.
@AlphaConde-qy7vi
@AlphaConde-qy7vi Жыл бұрын
That's what I realised as well. The more I compared the two, the more I thought the BB58's dial was more "confusing" - and this would be due to the dots used for indices.
@kingjgregory
@kingjgregory Жыл бұрын
I still love both of them and the Black Bay Bro too much. Tudor is my spirit animal.
@TobIas-or9dj
@TobIas-or9dj 5 ай бұрын
The size of the clasp is killing it for me… I just cant unsee it
@Henk-007
@Henk-007 Жыл бұрын
Great video as always ! For me, the Crown guards are a factor to consider. I had the crown ripped out of my old Rolex once, so I prefer the crown guards.
@david12990
@david12990 Жыл бұрын
Good point. I was thinking the same thing.
@Slammintone
@Slammintone Жыл бұрын
I’ll just add that being old fashioned I really, really loved the old vintage Tudor Subs with basically a real Rolex Sub case, the beautiful Tudor dials and the ETA 2824 movement. I would buy several of them just like that new today. A version with Tudors new chronometer manufacture movement would be icing on the cake for ME. Yes I know, nothing like looking backwards, lol. I have a couple of minty 1970s Tudor catalogs an old timer gave me once and I still drool at them, and I own a 2007 Rolex Sub-date.
@balthus9265
@balthus9265 Жыл бұрын
Nice video Teddy. I’ve been debating about exactly those two watches from sometime now. Excellent comparison and I agree with your points almost 100%. One minor aspect that makes the BB58 more attractive for me is that the minute hand extends fully over the minute marks, differently from the Pelagos. It might be psychological, but it makes it a bit more legible than the Pelagos in my opinion. I do own a Pelagos 42 and love the watch, but can’t justify owning a 39 also. Going for the 58 in this size.
@emanuelebalestra2097
@emanuelebalestra2097 Жыл бұрын
I don't know, the vintage charm of the 58 can't be beat!
@racebannon2332
@racebannon2332 Жыл бұрын
The Pelagos 39 is the modern submariner in Ti. I sold my 41mm submariner at the height of the insanity & missed it so much, I purchased the Pelagos 39. Much better everyday wear. I still have the Rolex Sea Dweller 40mm 16600 & 116600 & explorer 39 full lume but the Pelagos is my daily wear
@herbmerced7780
@herbmerced7780 Жыл бұрын
Got the original BB58 in 2018….my most comfy watch!
@poduss44
@poduss44 Жыл бұрын
I personally prefer the Pelagos and it is the one I wanted to get because it looks more modern and I love the titanium/ceramic duo. However, my issue is that I wanted a blue dial and I do prefer the color of the Pelagos as well but it only comes in 42mm which doesn’t fit me. Therefore, BB58 is the way😊
@FS-zn9xe
@FS-zn9xe Жыл бұрын
As much as I like the size of the P39, the lack of a date makes it a no-go for me. Would like to see that functionality being added in 2023, just like its bigger brother has.
@endusima
@endusima Жыл бұрын
I was a bit concerned about the long clasp on the 39 but I have no problems at all with it after about a month of ownership.
@miltgarrison5357
@miltgarrison5357 Жыл бұрын
Thank you as always for your complete forensic break down of 2 awesome study watches. My choice is the"PELAGOS"!
@dezmarinvestmentsllc9964
@dezmarinvestmentsllc9964 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for making this video; I’ve been on the fence about these two.
@decoculaeselmariachi
@decoculaeselmariachi Жыл бұрын
Teddy! Congrats! I subscribed to your channel! Always very informative and full of knowledge, your videos. What I especially like is that you look at all kinds of watches and price categories, not only the super expansive and for most of us not affordable watches! Keep on the good work!
@bayflowshow65
@bayflowshow65 Жыл бұрын
This is how I made the decision of the Black Bay 58 versus the Pelagos. I went with the 41 instead due to my wrist size when I saw the BB58 for the fist time. But when I saw the P39, I bought it right there. The Pelagos LHD was also available. I thought that was grail because I’m left handed. I still went with the P39. I do have a theory about the P39. If the person has ever owned a black dial Submariner, they won’t like the P39. But if you want a homage without the drama of the Submariner, you would like the P39. Great video. I’m sure people made some good decisions after your video!
@chriscampbell1455
@chriscampbell1455 Жыл бұрын
I’d go Pelagos all day! Absolutely love the modern take with the crown guards, titanium, and monotone color way. The current 58 offerings all have something to disappoint me. I want a black face but I personally really dislike the look of mixed metals (it looks very tacky/cheap) so the gilt 58 is a no for me. I’m sure if I saw the 58 in person I’d fall in love, but I’m still going pelagos.
@LeadershipAdventure
@LeadershipAdventure Жыл бұрын
Hi Teddy, just wanted to affirm your comment about the clasp on the Pelagos. I own a 42mm LHD model, which I love because of the limited production nature of the watch. But the clasp, while brilliantly designed, is definitely something that takes some adjusting to. That said, I'm a diver and a sailor, so the design fits the bill perfectly for me because I use the features regularly. Also, the Lume on the Pelagos is phenomenal. Even on the deck of my boat at night, it really helps when telling the time. Thanks for all your great content. Cheers.
@alexlitner6611
@alexlitner6611 Жыл бұрын
I recently got the Pelagos 39. These are the things l like about it. Ceramic bezel insert and the blue lume lume Crown gaurd The red line of text on the dial is cool too.
@propliner
@propliner Жыл бұрын
the BB58 is beautiful.. the flat black dial and gold hands blows me away.. love it, even as a rolex owner.. it's my fav..
@riccardo5753
@riccardo5753 Жыл бұрын
The marker at 6 is misaligned on the black bay 58
@hacker007300
@hacker007300 Жыл бұрын
4 months ago i bought a 925 ( the silver one). Today i got the Pelagos 39. Really happy with it
@tyler80501
@tyler80501 Жыл бұрын
How do you like the 925? Did you buy a different strap for it?
@darshanmalde497
@darshanmalde497 Жыл бұрын
Black Bay 58 on Ranger bracelet is the ultimate combo! I bought the 58 on a strap just so I can purchase the bracelet and put it on. Guys it’s a game changer!!
@TeddyBaldassarre
@TeddyBaldassarre Жыл бұрын
I hope that becomes the default. The ranger is my current favorite clasp of any tudor.
@darshanmalde497
@darshanmalde497 Жыл бұрын
Happy Holidays! Keep it up 👍
@erickruse4679
@erickruse4679 2 ай бұрын
Whichever one gets a future update to bring back the smiley dial first would be my first pick.
@BAF605
@BAF605 Жыл бұрын
Either or both, just go with your fancy. Don't overpay for the Pelagos. In my experience Tudor ADs run a fair wait list and every hot Tudor ends up in the window display eventually.
@deskdiversthlm
@deskdiversthlm Жыл бұрын
Have owned thr BB58x4 times and now the P39. Was on the fence but after two months on the wrist the P39 wears better, allow you to adjust to a better fit. Also the clasp on the 58 is actually longer in length than on the 58. Yes the BB58 might be a better deskdiver but with so many people wearing both sub’s and Panerai’s it really isn’t an issue. Love the blue BB58 and have been considering it for the third time😅….. buy now would rather wait for a blue P39.
@giannisignori2812
@giannisignori2812 Жыл бұрын
What were your reasons for flipping the 58 so many times? I've been waiting for the P39 since it had been announced, but with the 58 in the display case waiting to be picked up... I'm very very tempted by it!
@deskdiversthlm
@deskdiversthlm Жыл бұрын
@@giannisignori2812 main reasons is probably because I wanted a more tool-like dive watch and was unable to wear the OG Pelagos due to its massive size. The 58 is great, but if the P39 is what you want you'll end up sooner or later with that one. What I learned through the years is that always get what you want not a substitute.
@bimble205
@bimble205 Жыл бұрын
I like the pelagos but it needs more refinement before I'd buy one. Seems to have issues around lumes on hands not matching up with dial after few months, the movements accuracy I've heard has problems and the bracelet is a mess, needs refinement but I really like the watch, the rubber the titanium the different bezel and 39mm. It's a nice package so I hope they make improvements.
@stu632
@stu632 Жыл бұрын
I am a crazy person like you who wants them both. I went to my AD to see the Pelagos, but he also offered me an Explorer 2 so I jumped on that 😱
@randallhill7979
@randallhill7979 Жыл бұрын
Excellent review, thanks Teddy. I have the Black Bay 58 and I love it.
@adamwest5625
@adamwest5625 Жыл бұрын
I went for the Pelagos 39 in November - it was very close between the P39 and BB58. In the end, the P39 won out because I already have a Submariner 124060 and Pelagos FXD MN21.
@Wayne31245
@Wayne31245 Жыл бұрын
I think this is pretty fair, although the heritage argument could be tied perhaps? They're both referencing Tudor subs but in different eras, the pelagos has the look of the snowflake subs (crown guards, bezel profile, handset and markers) the black bay has that vintage inspiration and only really omits the Mercedes hands. The pelagos is more of a natural continuation of the sub line while the bb is intended as a throwback.
@kellerhammer4613
@kellerhammer4613 Жыл бұрын
Could you PLEASE make a video on a bunch of left handed watches? I feel like that would be a great video and help a lot of people out including myself. Keep up the great work!
@oysterman962
@oysterman962 Жыл бұрын
Buy both. I think they are different enough to enjoy separately. One modern. One vintage inspired. I had the same dilemma when deciding between a Submariner & Se-Dweller. And in the end I bought both. There is so much choice and variations within the Black Bay range you can virtually collect that one model in it's multiple variations and materials.
@EastCoastPGS
@EastCoastPGS Жыл бұрын
I agree, just get both that’s what I did.
@jtfragrance
@jtfragrance Жыл бұрын
Definitely saving my money to own both of these, i think their awesome in every sense
@rip93ford
@rip93ford Жыл бұрын
I have the bronze bb58, so I have the t fit clasp, it's pretty amazing.
@Slammintone
@Slammintone Жыл бұрын
If the 58 had the crown protectors like the Pelagos and Rolex sport watches it would be perfect. Once Tudor gets that feature into the design of the steel Black Bays they will have a winner and I’ll have a new watch!
@paulroscorla1666
@paulroscorla1666 11 ай бұрын
The thing I much prefer about the BB58 over the Pelagos, is that the BB58 has more defined outer linings on the hands. The pelagos hands look a little lost on the dial in my opinion. Other things I prefer with the BB58 are the round minute markers over the square, and the gilt bezel markers over the silver on the Palagos. If the titanium on the Pelagos was much harder wearing than stainless steel, that would be a selling point, but recent videos I've watched show that the titanium scratches just as easily.
@daganbrentley8697
@daganbrentley8697 Жыл бұрын
I picked up the Pelagos 39 two days ago. The clasp may be long in comparison, but no different than the length of my Rolex submariner. I don’t even notice it, or the watch really for that matter because it weighs so little. So comfortable. The more aggressive knurling on the bezel and crown, crown guards, along with no faux rivets in the bracelet were positives for me. I cannot get over those fake rivets on the 58 haha. Other factors..everyone has a 58. I also have the limited edition reissue of the 1957 Seamaster 300, which is too similar to the 58 for my collection. I’m an avid diver, and the 58 isn’t close when it comes to being a tool watch..
@Philippe_R
@Philippe_R Жыл бұрын
I got 'the call' last night and will be going to take a look at it tomorrow. I also have a submariner date. My only concern that it is too similar to my sub
@daganbrentley8697
@daganbrentley8697 Жыл бұрын
@@Philippe_R It feels so different. I’m digging it. My sub is a hulk, so it looks a lot different as well.
@MrP-kw3lf
@MrP-kw3lf Жыл бұрын
The BB58 is the successor to the five-digit Rolex case. If you want the five digit case with a modern bracelet and movement, I'd highly recommend the BB58.
@wj6782
@wj6782 Жыл бұрын
My preference is the Black Bay M79230B-0008 41mm with the white hand set, and matt blue anodised aluminium Bezel insert. Has the retro signed crown with the Tudor rose, Domed sapphire crystal, and Rivet bracelet... I Prefer the slightly bigger size, the clean white hand set(and lume) and the matt blue insert for a bit of color(more in comparison to the very retro gilt version). A modern retro look(LoL), the best of both worlds. I'm aware one is in Steel and the other is Titanium. I'm used to steel watches, and actually don't even notice the weight.
@ericiidx
@ericiidx Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the high detail shots of these two back to back! I've been considering both, but they each have a few quirks I can't see past (not yet, anyway!) On the Pelagos, really, it's just the sunburst dial. Need to check it out in person.
@jackarnold3290
@jackarnold3290 6 күн бұрын
Sunburst dial is so subtle, it is not a factor.
@TheOmarTech
@TheOmarTech 11 ай бұрын
I am in the third bucket... actually the Black Bay Pro GMT was my first choice, also 39mm but was way too thick. So I went with the 58 in navy as the blue made it look more modern IMO. But now I also want the Pelagos 39 after trying it. My first choice out of the 2 would still be the 58, it's safe bet. Because of the titanium on the Pelagos 39, it wears much lighter than the 58, this may be an issue for some that want to feel something substantial on their wrist.
@notDonaldFagen
@notDonaldFagen Жыл бұрын
The only thing I'd want from the Pelly39 is the slider clasp, and the clasp itself with its Rolex look objectively suits it better. But, for my OG 58, I got a Steel Reef 5mm clip out extension link (Functions exactly like a diver extension that you'd be familiar with, just not as broad of an extension, just a few mm for comfort in mind, not a wet suit). That does the trick. Oem fit and finish. Maybe a bit pricy for what it is (140usd) but it's up to snuff with the bracelet quality. It's exactly as it would have been if it had been offered from the factory. You would never know it was aftermarket.
@brianwong4579
@brianwong4579 Жыл бұрын
Great comparison, you hit on reasons why I chose the BB58 bronze (because the steel ones are quite played out so wanted something a bit different, and T-fit), and for Pelagos, the 39 is too similar to the BB58 so again looking for a quirkier version, got the FXD :)
@exkal215
@exkal215 Жыл бұрын
Great comparison. I agree with all of the points made. The BB58 would be my choice.
@toshitominaga3911
@toshitominaga3911 Ай бұрын
Have both. The Pelagos sees more daylight. Keep thinking to sell the 58
@Hnair1982
@Hnair1982 Жыл бұрын
Great at content Teddy, keep up the good work. Wishing and and the entire team and merry Christmas and a happy new year
@itairom195
@itairom195 Жыл бұрын
I will end up with both, but still love my BB58 Blue. Just the easiest no brainer watch to take with me wherever I go.
@adamhindle9215
@adamhindle9215 Жыл бұрын
Another great vid Teddy. I'd go Pelagos myself. Just has more character and style for me. But then again, I don't like dive watches, so I wouldn't get either...
@insidiousengineering
@insidiousengineering Жыл бұрын
Pelagos for the win. I have never liked the round indices with snowflake hand set of the BB.
@Allenlphoto
@Allenlphoto Жыл бұрын
Great review! I got a BB58 Blue and a Pelagos FXD. But if I didn't have the latter, I would definitely add a 39! Happy Holidays!
@kevinbridle1831
@kevinbridle1831 Жыл бұрын
I have been wearing a BB58 for 4 years now, its a brilliant watch, so comfortable to wear, I want a Pelagos 39 because I like that style of watch and I absolutely refuse to be scalped by price gouging dealers or ludicrous second hand offers for a Rolex Sub, I have owned the same Rolex DJ for 33 years and wore it every day to work until I retired, I like Rolex engineering and the Pelegos seems to embody that. The original watch was just too big for my puny wrist but as in the BB58 39mm is just right
@drewfogle
@drewfogle 28 күн бұрын
Great video! Now too bad I can’t the 2023 pricing!! Better buy now because these prices are only going to keep rising!
@pieter8947
@pieter8947 Жыл бұрын
I own a bb58 in gilt, absolutely love it still after 2,5 years. I have also like the pelagos a lot, especially the blue one. The 42 was to cluncky for my 6.25 inch wrists, but this 39 is bang on. Now just to decide on whether to wait for the blue one to add, or sell the gilt, and buy the 58 blue and pelagos black. Tough choices haha
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