Beethoven, the Heavy Metal of the Early 19th Century! | Nicolas Ellis | TEDxYouth@Montreal

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Young orchestral conductor, Nicolas Ellis, shares his passion for conducting and for one of his favorite composers.
Originating from Chicoutimi, Nicolas Ellis is the founder and artistic director of the OSA: l’Orchestre symphonique de l’Agora. This organization’s mission is to raise funds for social, humanitarian and environmental aide organizations. Alongside his activities with the orchestra, Nicolas was recently appointed conductor in residence of I Musici de Montréal’’s chamber orchestra and will assume his duties in June 2015.
In the summer of 2013, he participated in the Accademia Chigiana in Sienne, Italy, where he worked with Maestro Gianluigo Gelmetti and with the della Fondazione Bulgaria Classic orchestra. This past summer, at the Aspen Music Festival and School, he worked beside Robert Spano, conductor of the Atlantic Symphony Orchestra. During his time in Aspen, he participated in many master classes including those given by Leonard Slatkin, Hugh Wolff and Johanne Debus. It was in Aspen where Nicolas was named assistant conductor for the production of Carmen and worked alongside Spanish conductor Josep Caballé-Domenech.
In 2010, Nicolas was distinguished as first place prize winner in the under 18-year category for piano at the Canada Music Competition. In 2013, semi-finalist in the Jeunesses Musicales International Conducting Competition in Bucharest, Romania, he conducted the George Enescu Philharmonic Orchestra.
Nicolas completed his baccalaureate in classical piano, under Jean Saulnier, at the University of Montreal in 2013. Since then, he has studied orchestral conducting under Alexis Hauser at McGill University where he was the recipient of a Prestigious Schulich Scholarship.
When not preoccupied with his studies, Nicolas can be found with a soya latte in hand, walking his magnificent Labrador-mix, Suki, down Bernard Street in Montreal.
This talk was given at a TEDx event using the TED conference format but independently organized by a local community. Learn more at ted.com/tedx

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@schiopujohnny7802
@schiopujohnny7802 5 жыл бұрын
Frustrated, moody, alcoholic abusive father, messy room, no girlfriends, highly passionate, unappreciated most of his life, doesn't get much more metal than that
@hotasianstepsister3039
@hotasianstepsister3039 4 жыл бұрын
that should be dark metal!!!
@randalllayton7452
@randalllayton7452 4 жыл бұрын
Sounds a lot like me...hope I dont go deaf
@andrewhigdon8346
@andrewhigdon8346 4 жыл бұрын
Felice Fiorenza I’ve been told I was gonna go blind since I was 13. I’m 48 now and I can still see. Kinda.
@dalealldredge6369
@dalealldredge6369 3 жыл бұрын
yeah, very enticing isn't it?
@jeffreykaufmann2867
@jeffreykaufmann2867 3 жыл бұрын
@@randalllayton7452 I havd a theory that all those beatings Beethoven got from his dad damaged his ears.
@kevinhutcheson1854
@kevinhutcheson1854 7 жыл бұрын
Beethoven built monumental structures out of simple ideas. He was a master of variation and theme development. But he also had a gift for melody. He wrote some of the most beautiful melodies in classical music, and he was the first romantic. A true genius!
@DonnyDaison
@DonnyDaison 8 жыл бұрын
If I had a time machine, I would find Beethoven and take him to a Meshuggah concert
@Merceauroix
@Merceauroix 8 жыл бұрын
no
@TrevRockOne
@TrevRockOne 8 жыл бұрын
Greedy Rick He'd be glad he was deaf.
@AntalopeAUT
@AntalopeAUT 8 жыл бұрын
Maybe we could be seeing him headbanging that wig off of his head ... who knoweth, but the lord ? :P
@shenruivah
@shenruivah 8 жыл бұрын
TrevRockOne lol
@dclarkmusic
@dclarkmusic 7 жыл бұрын
Greedy Rick I think he would get bored in about 30 seconds.
@Userjdanon
@Userjdanon 8 жыл бұрын
the crowd seems to be very quiet. I find this Ted Talk very informative
@dinopad10
@dinopad10 8 жыл бұрын
I'd be quiet with jokes like his too...
@jacemcpherson8625
@jacemcpherson8625 8 жыл бұрын
I thought the same, but I think they aren't mic'd up, so it's hard to hear them if they laugh (unless it gets loud at the end, for instance)
@Fez8745
@Fez8745 7 жыл бұрын
Because i believe the Audience is mostly School age Children and young Adults, Under Supervision by teachers to stay quiet.
@MrLBDude
@MrLBDude 7 жыл бұрын
His audience is much younger than he is, and probably average kids, as in not musicians. I can imagine many texts going out complaining of being bored. Sad but true. It was a waste of time to try to get me to appreciate classical music until I was in my thirties. Also sad but true.
@XantheNowicz
@XantheNowicz 6 жыл бұрын
Beiber fans obviously.
@handicapitation3250
@handicapitation3250 8 жыл бұрын
If I could go back in time, I would invent the mosh pit at a Beethoven concert.
@VasilBelezhkov
@VasilBelezhkov 7 жыл бұрын
Some of his contemporary people said if you never heard Beethoven improvising on the piano you didn't listen to anything yet.
@CzornyLisek
@CzornyLisek 7 жыл бұрын
Mozart, Paganini, Liszt and other well known music stars had mosh pits. Human behaviour in that matter didn't rly changed ;P
@handicapitation3250
@handicapitation3250 6 жыл бұрын
Dreambro1 Most metal uses Minor scales as well.
@departedfetus9148
@departedfetus9148 6 жыл бұрын
In your lifetime time travel will be invented and you will use it to go back in time and create moshing
@ermonski
@ermonski 6 жыл бұрын
Nothing says civilized than a wall of death in a full orchestra concert. OPEN UP THE PIT
@macaron3141592653
@macaron3141592653 9 жыл бұрын
This is also a great example of why people today like heavy metal, and people react to that as they did to beethoven back then,
@justarandomguy9021
@justarandomguy9021 8 жыл бұрын
Beethoven, Deaf Metal star xD
@steveeatthesun2540
@steveeatthesun2540 7 жыл бұрын
good one !
@andrewwheeldon3957
@andrewwheeldon3957 7 жыл бұрын
Haha, i see what you did there!
@Evan0614
@Evan0614 7 жыл бұрын
Too soon :((
@colemcleod941
@colemcleod941 7 жыл бұрын
A lot of Metal stars eventually end up deaf.
@dorkyporky8477
@dorkyporky8477 6 жыл бұрын
To the top!
@shadowsmustfall1
@shadowsmustfall1 8 жыл бұрын
People wonder how I could possibly love classical and metal, but it's pretty obvious. Technical metal is deeply infused with classical elements. Metal is definitely not as musically complex as classical (then again, no other genre of music is), but the elements are definitely there.
@mathieumeneray2990
@mathieumeneray2990 8 жыл бұрын
I love metal too, I'm not much into classical music, but I totally agree that Classical music and metal have so much similarities
@TFDwolf
@TFDwolf 8 жыл бұрын
I get the feeling that you two would love 'In Fear and Faith'.
@areyouavinalaff
@areyouavinalaff 8 жыл бұрын
well the scales and modes used in metal and rock are typically the same as used in classical... that's why blues, jazz, hiphop sound nothing like classical...different scales and modes.
@areyouavinalaff
@areyouavinalaff 8 жыл бұрын
take randy rhoads for instance, classically trained guitarist and one of the very best, if not the best, metal guitarist to have lived. it's the way the music is structured. classical and metal use the same tricks.
@vZZenn
@vZZenn 8 жыл бұрын
Ya but once you get into technical metal it is almost directly classically influenced and composed in almost the same way. Different than rock and classic heavy metal
@rawr3122
@rawr3122 8 жыл бұрын
It's also evident in moonlight sonata 3rd movement...
@rawr3122
@rawr3122 8 жыл бұрын
yep :)
@pedroakjr2371
@pedroakjr2371 8 жыл бұрын
It gives me the chills every time...
@davidpardy
@davidpardy 7 жыл бұрын
There's a guy who's done a really good lead guitar interpretation and that's what first made me realise that Beethoven had managed to write a song perfect for electric guitar a couple of hundred years before it even existed!
@Todesnuss
@Todesnuss 7 жыл бұрын
Do you mean Dr. Viossy?
@skeletonrowdie1768
@skeletonrowdie1768 7 жыл бұрын
nice! i didn't think so many people would think this too!
@nobnobnobnob
@nobnobnobnob 8 жыл бұрын
On the other hand, can we say that Heavy Metal bands are the Beethoven of the current times?
@Shigellosis
@Shigellosis 8 жыл бұрын
beethoven was artistic.. the majority of current bands focus on shitloads of distortion and the heaviest and lowest tone they can get especially with the new djent shit. Are they both loud and full of energy? yes, but beethoven had proper melody and rhythm. Why am I thinking too deep about this?
@Typhoon792
@Typhoon792 8 жыл бұрын
Metal is my favorite genre of music. It also happens to be the most diverse. I never listened to the kind of crap you're referring to to begin with and still don't. Plenty of excellent Metal bands who don't have those kind of influences.
@zacharywalsh6481
@zacharywalsh6481 8 жыл бұрын
Thugzilla music doesn't have to be melodic it can be rthymic in nature. and djent can be some of the most raw and rthymic of most music.
@themightymcb7310
@themightymcb7310 8 жыл бұрын
Thugzilla Check out anything by Meshuggah and try to tell me that it isn't a rhythmic masterpiece. All of those guys are immensely talented
@Shigellosis
@Shigellosis 8 жыл бұрын
I checked out Meshuggah.. I can understand why people like them, but they're not really my type.. I'm more of a Butcher babies kinda guy
@MrDw44
@MrDw44 8 жыл бұрын
It's nice to see Harry Potter doing some other activities other then magic after Hogwarts.
@dariusduesentrieb
@dariusduesentrieb 7 жыл бұрын
he definififlidily would have been a better cast that daniel redcliff
@jdavis417
@jdavis417 7 жыл бұрын
No... they obviously found a way to clone Peter Brady! ;)
@mikeferry3391
@mikeferry3391 7 жыл бұрын
Dane Wagner It's ....other THAN magic.....
@nickdobrov
@nickdobrov 7 жыл бұрын
And being a corpse that saves a man that got stranded on an island.
@laurelieirvine8001
@laurelieirvine8001 6 жыл бұрын
Terry Pratchett once wrote that you can either do magic or do music, but you can't do both. Glad to know that Harry Potter made the best decision.
@MissEnjoylife
@MissEnjoylife 8 жыл бұрын
I realized this exactly last year that in music class I wasn't taught how to understand music, what I should hear... We listened to the classic composers just for the sake of knowing them, we had no idea WHY they were great composers. So this talk is just simply great with all the demonstrations :)
@trip.le.threat
@trip.le.threat 8 жыл бұрын
Amon Janus Have you learned everything you know without a teacher? Also, aren't there things you won't know even EXIST unless someone explains them to you?
@najrenchelf2751
@najrenchelf2751 Жыл бұрын
If you want to know why the great composers are great, there's a channel called "Inside the Score" here on KZbin that is worthy to check out. :)
@indycarr3964
@indycarr3964 7 жыл бұрын
What a great presentation, nice job! Makes me have a whole new appreciation for Beethoven!
@maeb9131
@maeb9131 8 жыл бұрын
does he djent?
@garybradshaw2033
@garybradshaw2033 6 жыл бұрын
aMaeb
@garybradshaw2033
@garybradshaw2033 6 жыл бұрын
gzk
@darknomad5600
@darknomad5600 6 жыл бұрын
Epic.
@GRATES
@GRATES 5 жыл бұрын
Actually, he does :D check grosse fuge
@afonsotopa9164
@afonsotopa9164 5 жыл бұрын
A man of culture, I see...
@blackie75
@blackie75 8 жыл бұрын
I don't think that was arrogant at all, it was the truth and nothing more.
@OLR1337
@OLR1337 8 жыл бұрын
Mox_au arrogance is always truth in some minds
@blackie75
@blackie75 8 жыл бұрын
you're a poet Harry
@Quotenwagnerianer
@Quotenwagnerianer 8 жыл бұрын
Not in some minds. The term arrogance means that you know (not only think you know) that you are better in something or have greater knowledge about something than others and showing it.
@matthewdmiller4335
@matthewdmiller4335 7 жыл бұрын
Ivo Sigma but you can be arrogant regardless of genuine competencies. if we imagine the idea that perception is your reality than it is fathomable that arrogance stems from a reality that differs from the one we experience. arrogance marks overconfidence but what may be overconfident to one may be justified not only to the one executing the act in question but to even a separate casual onlooker. this leaves overconfidence is a pergatory, intangible it means nothing more than what we decide it means and much like so many things is nothing but a human born concept which only holds merit should the general consensus agree with it.
@hippojuice23
@hippojuice23 7 жыл бұрын
Mox_au A fantastic quote for any great artist for all time!
@scotchwhisky6094
@scotchwhisky6094 3 жыл бұрын
It may sound dull on piano, but from an orchestra it's an absolute marvel!
@austindorf83
@austindorf83 7 жыл бұрын
His passion and dedication is amazing. Great speaker as well
@Fr3akymet4l
@Fr3akymet4l 8 жыл бұрын
Metal is just an absolutw underrated genre. There are soo many new things in music history like extreme dissonances and weird rhythms or the different sounds from e guitars or drums and new singing styles. But you never talk about it in school. Never. And that's fuckin' sad.
@knalltuete97
@knalltuete97 7 жыл бұрын
Fr3akymet4l I have a music teacher (grammar school in germany) who actually is too qualificated for his Job. Anyway we spoke about heavy metal.\m/ :D
@Fr3akymet4l
@Fr3akymet4l 7 жыл бұрын
knalltuete97 Geil! Meiner wusste auch was growlen ist, als jemand mal was von A day to remember vorgestellt hat, hat er ganz genau erklärt, wie der gutturale Gesang funktioniert :D Aber es ist nicht selten, dass Musiklehrer Metal hören, nehme ich mal an. Ist ja durchaus interessant und komplex \m/
@ovrava
@ovrava 7 жыл бұрын
Do you have any interesting examples of interesting rythms, harmony or melodies in metal?
@Fr3akymet4l
@Fr3akymet4l 7 жыл бұрын
ovrava Try some Dillinger Escape Plan. It's Mathcore so the rhythm is veeeery confuse. They also have Jazz influences like in the song ''One of us is the Killer''. You can find weird harmonies in progressive metal. Try some Mastodon and concentrate on their riffs.
@electronicaids6096
@electronicaids6096 7 жыл бұрын
ovrava Cacophony was a very great band. To poor they released just 2 albums.
@henriknykvist
@henriknykvist 8 жыл бұрын
Someone please tune that piano.
@MsMesem
@MsMesem 7 жыл бұрын
and the reverb is awful, why does he destroy his playing?
@MsMesem
@MsMesem 7 жыл бұрын
Perhaps but as it is a community piano there might be a local tuner who would be willing to do the job for a moderated price (I thought community thinking and acting was what TED was all about).
@amihere383
@amihere383 7 жыл бұрын
so I wasn't alone!
@Velostigmat
@Velostigmat 5 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a consumer grade baby grand. Pity, he deserves a nicer instrument.
@badasunicorn6870
@badasunicorn6870 5 жыл бұрын
I don't even have relative pitch, and I noticed
@ALoonwolf
@ALoonwolf 4 жыл бұрын
Beethoven: "Yes, that sounds quite satisfying." Everybody else: "MUCH. TOO. LOUD."
@AA-mk7yn
@AA-mk7yn 8 жыл бұрын
baethoven
@derycktrahair8108
@derycktrahair8108 7 жыл бұрын
My best teacher taught about TEMPO. She said that today, everyone tries to play in a frantic way to impress. She said "SLOW DOWN, hear the silence between the notes. Don't be a virtuoso. Be a musician".
@sandramilenarosalessilva8748
@sandramilenarosalessilva8748 8 жыл бұрын
I loved this video, It's amazing how Beethoven created these beautiful symphonies! Bravo!!!
@carloslamasdeoliveira1347
@carloslamasdeoliveira1347 7 жыл бұрын
Wow!!! It's really a great speech, full of light, strength and knowledge. Congrats, my Maestro!
@LucasFerreira-tg1fb
@LucasFerreira-tg1fb 4 жыл бұрын
I absolutely love the second movement of the 7th symphony, ain't no way this is boring to me.
7 жыл бұрын
He bases the entire talk on some of Bernstein's sayings, which are, by the way, very arguable. Not only the form and structure is great, he also wrote extremely beautiful and singable melodies, and complex harmonies. And he was not unaccepted by tje public his whole life: near to the end he was very popular, and people recognized him as the greastest composer alive. I like the comparisson with rock and heavy metal, because indeed Beethoven had that rebelious and rule-breaking spirit.
@Felipemelazzi
@Felipemelazzi 7 жыл бұрын
This TED was 15min long?! It felt like 5min
@wphb66
@wphb66 4 жыл бұрын
Very enjoyable talk and puts the music in historical context. Thank you!
@PaulTheSkeptic
@PaulTheSkeptic 8 жыл бұрын
If only the guy had an electric guitar, I think his sanity would've been spared. He wanted a bigger sound than a symphony orchestra could provide. He wanted *more* and *bigger* sound. The guy would've been right at home playing guitar for Metallica or something.
@Shigellosis
@Shigellosis 8 жыл бұрын
we need beethovencore in this world
@Zalemones1
@Zalemones1 8 жыл бұрын
sorry but if you think there is something in this world that sounds louder and bigger the symphony orchestras you've been hearing the wrong orchestras, i say this as a violinist and bassist for 13 years haha
@PaulTheSkeptic
@PaulTheSkeptic 8 жыл бұрын
Zalemones1 So, you've been hearing it right from inside it then. A single Marshall half stack could blow away any orchestra in volume but as far as big sound goes, an electric guitar with the gain cranked is about as big as one can get. I'm not putting down the symphony orchestra. It's just that one can only go so far with it. I played viola in my high school strings orchestra. Admittedly, that's not the same thing by any stretch but I have heard orchestras. I've also been to band practice with a Marshall half stack. You have to put cotton or something in your ears. Please no viola jokes. I've heard them already.
@benjaminclifton6775
@benjaminclifton6775 7 жыл бұрын
Coming from a guy who has played full stacks in a doom band. Nothing was as loud and as intense as hearing the royal philharmonic live. Get bent chump. All instruments have a key part in music.
@Zalemones1
@Zalemones1 7 жыл бұрын
Paul TheSkeptic gotta agree with you on that haha the power of amplification is something to be reckoned with, and i will spare you from my viola jokes :P
@HarDiMonPetit
@HarDiMonPetit 4 жыл бұрын
The theme of the slow movement of the 7th is probably one of the most powerful incantations ever spelled! Poor Lady G.didn't even imagine to be compared to such a Titan!
@superDavid12341
@superDavid12341 8 жыл бұрын
actually, its thrash metal *adjust glasses and snorts*
@thepotatoof4219
@thepotatoof4219 4 жыл бұрын
Metalheads: SLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!! Slayer: BEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEETTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOVVVVVVVVVVVEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEENNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@logioso
@logioso 7 жыл бұрын
Maybe he is right, l grew up loving Heavy Metal and Beethoven is my favourite composer
@Doppe1ganger
@Doppe1ganger 7 жыл бұрын
Good music by true artists captures a feeling, tells a story, creates an atmosphere... It doesn't matter how complex or simple it is, or what instruments you use, Beethoven was a genius, not because he uses three notes or a simple melody or intricate composition, but because he marvellously tells a story and in a new way.
@MrMrHotDog0303
@MrMrHotDog0303 7 жыл бұрын
Doppe1ganger yes I can't agree more. Although this is something metal music lacks, the ability to create a story without having to use lyrics
@pixelshady6143
@pixelshady6143 7 жыл бұрын
listen to 'To live is to die' by metallica it can kinda tell a story without using lyrics
@MrMrHotDog0303
@MrMrHotDog0303 7 жыл бұрын
Pixelshady then what is the story in To Live is to die
@SavatageIsMyReligion
@SavatageIsMyReligion 7 жыл бұрын
You lack knowledge of good metal bands
@predatedapollo1784
@predatedapollo1784 7 жыл бұрын
Alex Barbella the story in to live is to can be interpreted as a man living a depressed life or a corrupt life with the heavy parts being his physical more open suffering and the acoustic parts as his suffering more mentally (thats my opinion in a sense)
@SomeoneCommenting
@SomeoneCommenting 7 жыл бұрын
Just imagine the music that Mozart or Beethoven could have composed if they could have edited scores in a tablet, used synthesizers to create new sounds and musical effects. The possibilities are endless. Having at hand all the editing tools of a sound engineering studio. They would have gone mad with creativity. One piece after another in a matter of just days. They already had all the music in their heads, they only needed to pour it out as fast as possible.
@briguyhackins
@briguyhackins 7 жыл бұрын
best thing I have watched for a long time
@frogmouth
@frogmouth 5 жыл бұрын
Very engaging thankyou Nicholas. I now have some understanding of why the favourite composer of my youth was so criticised in his time
@johnwentz2149
@johnwentz2149 8 жыл бұрын
Good talk, although I wish he could have explained how similar use of motific development is the driving force behind some of metal's most classic works.
@ross8138
@ross8138 7 жыл бұрын
Alienart Master of puppets?
@wardka
@wardka 7 жыл бұрын
Points well made, Ross Cooke and John Wentz. Someday I'll learn not to make rash generalizations in public forums. I should clarify that I'm drawn to metal that repeats a riff more so than develops it, so naturally I would think most of it does simply repeat. Even though I'm well familiar with Master of Puppets, it never occurred to me those riffs mutate over the course of the piece, and I'm not familiar with Morbid Angel. I will check them out and listen with the same level of focus I give to "classical." It's hard though when the riff gets into your limbic system and takes over.
@EggChen6DemonBag
@EggChen6DemonBag 6 жыл бұрын
This guy seems like a really cool and down to earth person. I really admire people with such musical talent.
@FMHeatSink
@FMHeatSink 7 жыл бұрын
Before Cellos on Fire was even born there was Apocalyptica playing Metallica on cello.
@hedgehog1965uk
@hedgehog1965uk 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, they released a whole album and they weren't using electro-acoustic either.
@rikosborne1212
@rikosborne1212 7 жыл бұрын
I loved the comment about learning to LISTEN to music. I spent decades feverishly practicing my bass guitar, trying to perfectly learn to play all of my favorite songs. Then, a few years ago, I realized I was in something of a rut. I put my instrument aside for the most part, and started to just LISTEN to a lot of different music. Just listen, discover, and learn. It's made a huge difference.
@hbsupermage
@hbsupermage 7 жыл бұрын
i think Beethoven was like heavy metal, and Bach like death metal
@jeffreymerrill7667
@jeffreymerrill7667 6 жыл бұрын
other way around brother. lol metal is influenced by Beethoven because everyone is influenced by him
@jeffreymerrill7667
@jeffreymerrill7667 6 жыл бұрын
other way around brother. lol metal is influenced by Beethoven because everyone is influenced by him
@AreEnTee
@AreEnTee 5 жыл бұрын
And Paganini was Shred guitar
@pavimaris
@pavimaris 5 жыл бұрын
I haven't thought about Unreal Tournament in over a decade
@jrexx2841
@jrexx2841 5 жыл бұрын
Mozart was the pop star guy
@fakshen1973
@fakshen1973 7 жыл бұрын
Building complex structures out of simple components is always the golden achievement of any type of creative engineering.
@fredericellis4540
@fredericellis4540 9 жыл бұрын
Good talk! Instructive and well crafted!!!
@ericdew2021
@ericdew2021 7 жыл бұрын
Beethoven would so dig heavy metal, and virtually all genres of music. He would know and discern between good music of any genre and pablum.
@thetooginator153
@thetooginator153 7 жыл бұрын
Hey! He dissed the Seventh Symphony! Blasphemy! That one is beautiful (well, they all are in their own ways). That was a great talk! The speaker is absolutely right. The movie "Immortal Beloved" touches on the idea that Beethoven's music was considered almost obscene. Fortunately, powerful women (and many men) at the time understood Beethoven's genius. I would have probably been as shocked as anyone if I went to a concert expecting something melodious and familiar. I didn't know Beethoven's would furiously cross out whole stanzas! That's especially amazing knowing that Beethoven couldn't test the stanza because he was deaf! He could just "see" that he didn't like it. Well, if anyone deserved to be egotistical and arrogant, Beethoven did.
@jacquiline605
@jacquiline605 7 жыл бұрын
I can feel all his slight changes no matter how small, the emotion is great. Always loved Beethoven. He will always be the greatest rockstar of his time!
@stevekirkham5193
@stevekirkham5193 6 жыл бұрын
"there is only one Beethoven" You must admit, he WAS right.
@absurdious
@absurdious 4 жыл бұрын
they tried to make a sequel, but judging by rotten tomatoes, nobody liked it...
@scurvyjoe269
@scurvyjoe269 2 жыл бұрын
Beethoven sure had a way with writing symphonies, with style and grace that’s all his own! If there were copyright laws back then, I would have given him the rights to his own music! I mean, if I existed during his time period. If Beethoven was alive today, he would be surprised that he has become a classical music legend! However, he still lives on in his music. Like the old saying goes, “Legends never die!” And I think that Beethoven has left a great legacy behind in this world! Not just his music, but the fact that a deaf man can make it in the world as a music composer! I also write music myself, and if Beethoven can make it in the world as a deaf composer, then so can I! I may be schizophrenic, but Beethoven has inspired me as an influence! Thank you Beethoven for your contribution to music today!
@eugenedanker2377
@eugenedanker2377 6 жыл бұрын
The second movement of the 7th is my favorite
@MikeyLovesLife
@MikeyLovesLife 3 жыл бұрын
wow - what a talented guy, the keyboard skills are very impressive! I love his view on things from that era and how it translated and has influenced modern music.
@borgtennis
@borgtennis 6 жыл бұрын
Yes yes yes! You got it! I'm teaching Beethoven's 3rd symphony as music appreciation, and it is loud and in your face with massive chords!
@MeatBunFul
@MeatBunFul 7 жыл бұрын
"Rage over a lost penny" is a really good example of Beethoven's work with repeating motif.
@milograamans2
@milograamans2 8 жыл бұрын
Whoever mixed the audio on the recording should have made an attempt to get rid of the echo on the piano.
@markrymanowski719
@markrymanowski719 5 жыл бұрын
If only I had watched this video in school days back in the 60's. My life would have been different.
@blinkforme5726
@blinkforme5726 5 жыл бұрын
Classical music + distortion = metal
@kkampy4052
@kkampy4052 6 жыл бұрын
The 2nd movement of the 7th makes me cry every time I hear it.
@dandandy1863
@dandandy1863 8 жыл бұрын
Building a whole work of music about one musical idea? Reminds me of Meshuggah's Catch 33
@victorsrur134
@victorsrur134 6 жыл бұрын
each metallica album is a beethoven symphony,each album have their chords and style,listen to kill em all then listen to and... justice for all a 40 min symphony
@lpsp442
@lpsp442 7 жыл бұрын
Good video game music tends to follow Beethoven's principles. Establish a theme or motif, and then expand and explore from there.
@harrykinomoto
@harrykinomoto 4 жыл бұрын
So true!
@BlackStarXx11xX
@BlackStarXx11xX 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly why I admire game music and prog rock/metal
@BlackStarXx11xX
@BlackStarXx11xX 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly why I admire game music and prog rock/metal
@VFizz
@VFizz 7 жыл бұрын
Probably the best TED Talk I've ever seen!!
@edanmendelson3274
@edanmendelson3274 8 жыл бұрын
this is a wonderful talk!!!
@bluzshadez
@bluzshadez 7 жыл бұрын
Ludvig Van Beethoven was way ahead of his time. People did not understand his repertoire. The music he composed that was frowned upon during his lifetime are the very same ones he is celebrated for hundreds of years after his demise.
@maristoldboys5466
@maristoldboys5466 7 жыл бұрын
Roll over Beethoven. Rock me Amadeus.
@6strings735
@6strings735 6 жыл бұрын
Just happened on this now - very interesting. I always thought there was similarity in phrasing between some heavy metal riffs and classical music. Beethoven was always my favorite classical composer.. I really didn't know why until now.
@amycroft7545
@amycroft7545 8 жыл бұрын
For a second there, I thought I was listening to Apocalyptica!!
@rishabhrockstar5739
@rishabhrockstar5739 7 жыл бұрын
I respect BEETHOVEN I am indian nd here Not everyone no Him.... But i Love him as a Inspiring Pianist... fur elise is my Fav piano Theme of all time
@ProJatior
@ProJatior 7 жыл бұрын
Would Mozart be the Iron Maiden of the day? Is there a more accurate band to compare him to?
@lucjicare
@lucjicare 7 жыл бұрын
ProJatior fleshgod apocalypse?^^
@metalcorefan93
@metalcorefan93 7 жыл бұрын
YES, Fleshgod Apocalypse is an excellent comparison in my eyes.
@spyros5000
@spyros5000 7 жыл бұрын
A heavy band would be comparable.
@dualcarnage7299
@dualcarnage7299 7 жыл бұрын
Lifelover Meh Apocalypse is not metal like Iron Maiden
@MrMrHotDog0303
@MrMrHotDog0303 7 жыл бұрын
ProJatior beethoven cannot be compared to anyone because no one today is at all as incredible and genius as Beethoven
@frantiseksmetana9640
@frantiseksmetana9640 7 жыл бұрын
In next school year I will be student of Conservatory. I need to thank you for your presentation, I remembered why I love so much classicial music and why I wanted to go to Conservatory.
@jasoli1749
@jasoli1749 8 жыл бұрын
I pity beethoven he didnt get to hear even his own master pieces
@cellogirl11rw55
@cellogirl11rw55 7 жыл бұрын
BreadnButterJohnski He sure can hear them now! 😁
@perezsounds
@perezsounds 7 жыл бұрын
But the empty void of nothingness cant reproduce sound...
@franzjosephliszt1555
@franzjosephliszt1555 7 жыл бұрын
He sure could hear his master pieces. He didn't go completely deaf until after his music career.
@DavidvdGulik
@DavidvdGulik 7 жыл бұрын
Johnathon Shakovitz Beethoven was completely deaf by about 1819, after which he still wrote dozens of works, particularly up to about 1924
@franzjosephliszt1555
@franzjosephliszt1555 7 жыл бұрын
So Beethoven was over a hundred years old? He died in 1827 muchacho
@alexandrugheorghe5610
@alexandrugheorghe5610 7 жыл бұрын
Finally a good proper talk from TedX@Youth that I see!
@TheUltraGamer98
@TheUltraGamer98 7 жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed that speech
@sonja8990
@sonja8990 4 жыл бұрын
the second movement of the 7th symphony is my favourite movement ever
@jeffreykaufmann2867
@jeffreykaufmann2867 3 жыл бұрын
It's a great movement. the first movement of Beethoven's 9th Symphony is my favorite.
@scotchwhisky6094
@scotchwhisky6094 3 жыл бұрын
4th movement of his 3rd symphony for me. It's got this charm and it's the most Beethoven symphony of the lot.
@BobBob-lr5re
@BobBob-lr5re 8 жыл бұрын
FVCKING BRVTAL \M/
@lmbtcs1879
@lmbtcs1879 8 жыл бұрын
Bob Bob trve cvlt
@raysills
@raysills 7 жыл бұрын
And there is the 4th movement of the 9th... melody that is baby-simple: stepwise quarter notes, which becomes the anthem for joy.
@martinkrauser4029
@martinkrauser4029 7 жыл бұрын
I have to appreciate how a classical conductor can't play a one note pop tune as soon as its syncopated.
@PhSyCo-B-oCh
@PhSyCo-B-oCh Жыл бұрын
Yess, one of my many favorites is Fur Elise. I love Beethoven's music, it is very moving, intence and soothing at the same time.
@Kyrelel
@Kyrelel 8 жыл бұрын
I could actually feel my will to live seeping out through my shoes while watching this.
@AdamWoodhams
@AdamWoodhams 7 жыл бұрын
Why?
@TheVeritableQuandary
@TheVeritableQuandary 7 жыл бұрын
Adam Woodhams Presentation and subject matter. Both were poor.
@chapeltibet4551
@chapeltibet4551 7 жыл бұрын
Excellent, Nicolas, just excellent.
@thothheartmaat2833
@thothheartmaat2833 8 жыл бұрын
Chopin is heavy metal. doom metal.
@samdeegan7438
@samdeegan7438 7 жыл бұрын
Maathiu Ra Yin debussy bro 👌
@thothheartmaat2833
@thothheartmaat2833 7 жыл бұрын
Sam Blake i eat Debussy... 😗
@kudagenit
@kudagenit 7 жыл бұрын
Maathiu Ra Yin Chopin is prog dude.
@thothheartmaat2833
@thothheartmaat2833 7 жыл бұрын
Fadhil Nugraha HE IS ALL OF THESE THINGS!!!
@ksilveira
@ksilveira 7 жыл бұрын
Wagner is power metal.
@DanKop2
@DanKop2 7 жыл бұрын
Music, tells a story. True music has a story without words.
@beyondthetitans4170
@beyondthetitans4170 8 жыл бұрын
Some of Lady Gaga's more obscure pieces are very skillfully written.
@erick-gd7wo
@erick-gd7wo 7 жыл бұрын
i like how he explains his ideas, i tend to so much agree to his idea.
@dinopad10
@dinopad10 8 жыл бұрын
I've never heard so many jokes told as if they were reprimands... This is where humor goes to die.
@stevenarvizu3602
@stevenarvizu3602 7 жыл бұрын
The difference between Beethoven and heavy metal today is he took a strong message and only used simple chords and rhythms and still managed to make music that everyone enjoyed. Heavy metal today if you can understand their screaming actually is usually pretty deep and meaningful, however a lot of people just don't enjoy the guitar screeching and screaming and such that comes with the music. I don't think heavy metal is underrated or ahead of its time I just think most of them haven't found what Beethoven did in a way to connect with all audiences and still make their music the way they want. The closest they have come would be with System of a Down. They're not necessarily heavy metal but they took their screaming and loud angry music and still managed to make melodies out of them which is why everyone regardless of whether or not they like metal or Rock has heard of them and often enjoys it.
@brettfuller5193
@brettfuller5193 7 жыл бұрын
lol true about System man, but what about Metallica? I'd argue they have been the best at combining melody with metal due to their popularity in the world
@elsenoryo6467
@elsenoryo6467 8 жыл бұрын
QUE FANTÁSTICO ACENTO. EXELENTE DICCIÓN. ES MUY FÁCIL ENTENDERLE. TODOS LOS MÚSICOS QUE HABLAN EN PÚBLICO DEBERÍAN EXPRESARSE DE ÉSA MANERA.
@gnarman1358
@gnarman1358 8 жыл бұрын
Love this dudes passion when playing the piano
@TransformsIntoAGuitar
@TransformsIntoAGuitar 8 жыл бұрын
An interesting bit of history about BeethOven but the title was misleading. I thought there would be more about the tempestuousness of his music.
@fabianhidalgo8591
@fabianhidalgo8591 5 жыл бұрын
I always thought the same, love the passion of this guy when explaining.
@IferMasterofFire
@IferMasterofFire 7 жыл бұрын
I hate that piano. It double-taps the notes.
@LanceClark
@LanceClark 7 жыл бұрын
Could it be echo?
@TheGeneralJos
@TheGeneralJos 7 жыл бұрын
Lance Clark I think it's bad sound editing. Sounds like the piano's output is recorded twice: once on the kid's microphone, and another source somewhere else, and the sound editor was either lazy or did a really terrible job, or maybe both
@renzo6490
@renzo6490 7 жыл бұрын
His piano playing is sloppy and messy as if he is feeling rushed.I know that he is speaking without a script, but he hasn't stated a theme or premise and then followed that with ideas and samples to support it. I'm not sure I understand the point he is trying to make.
@MiamiTiger100
@MiamiTiger100 7 жыл бұрын
The point he is making is that Beethoven's music ls like organic chemistry: complexity created out of simple fundamental building blocks. He could have done a much better job in presenting it, no doubt.
@yomeyo6622
@yomeyo6622 7 жыл бұрын
First time I heard or saw this man, Nicolas Ellis... and I must say, I'm impressed.
@eavening4149
@eavening4149 8 жыл бұрын
is it my phone, or does that piano sound horribly twangy?
@danielthompson5785
@danielthompson5785 8 жыл бұрын
It's cuz he's slamming the keys a little too hard
@davidpardy
@davidpardy 7 жыл бұрын
It's your phone. Judging audio quality on a phone speaker is always going to end in tears
@davidpardy
@davidpardy 7 жыл бұрын
He definitely hit a number of bad notes, but to be honest I don't think there's much point judging the recorded quality of the audio. His vocal mic also has a harsh quality - so I would put the quality of the recording down to the recording or the way everything has been mixed and/or mic'd on the night. But don't forget that recording in a live venue is a totally different animal to recording in a studio. I also have a high-end audio system on my computer, just FYI. But all that being said, my original point still stands: Don't judge audio quality based on a phone speaker!
@TheBassBarbarian
@TheBassBarbarian 7 жыл бұрын
The piano was being picked up by multiple mics so sounded delayed and weird
@qwertz12345654321
@qwertz12345654321 7 жыл бұрын
terrible acoustic and recording
@sudiptosaha7467
@sudiptosaha7467 6 жыл бұрын
This one is definitely going to be one of my favourite Ted talk
@danielm793
@danielm793 7 жыл бұрын
Master! Master!
@angelreed1925
@angelreed1925 7 жыл бұрын
I’m a full on metal head (only thirteen) I love ted talks and this explains my thoughts about my music that nobody around me likes. But I love Beethoven as well and think the same things and it’s the same thing, nobody around me likes him.
@AntonDoesMusic
@AntonDoesMusic 8 жыл бұрын
When you take classical music and mix it with rock or metal, you get prog. Ask any prog musician. They list classical or jazz music as one of their influences.
@ilhamdinzaz
@ilhamdinzaz 7 жыл бұрын
AntonDoesMusic I'm more to Progressive Djent.
@intergalacticspacecanoe4659
@intergalacticspacecanoe4659 7 жыл бұрын
aka furiously closeted meshuggah-emulation, lul
@dualcarnage7299
@dualcarnage7299 7 жыл бұрын
Symphony X, Ayreon, Rush, Yes, Animals As Leaders, Dream Theater...
@MegaDocjoe
@MegaDocjoe 7 жыл бұрын
I becomes closer to neocalssical instead, think of Malmsteen , Michael Romeo of symphony X (as guitarist not the band)
@halloooo1duuuuu
@halloooo1duuuuu 7 жыл бұрын
great talk! I have the feeling he really understands the essence of Beethoven's compositions!
@matthewwhitehouse301
@matthewwhitehouse301 7 жыл бұрын
The majority of most Mozart and Haydn symphonies started with loud chords (Mozart- symphony no28, 34, 41, 39 etc) this style of approach in terms of starting a symphony was not new in the 19th century, in fact it was more appropriate than not to not start a symphony with a loud tutti chord. The example he gave with the 40th symphony is a very poor one indeed, Symphony no40 is one of very few Mozart symphonies where Mozart opens the symphony with a quiet melody etc. A lot of the information given here is just historically informative.
@rutherford16
@rutherford16 6 жыл бұрын
4:00 I love this quotes.
@colostrum5853
@colostrum5853 8 жыл бұрын
back then there was beethoven. now we have Animals as Leaders
@Marekki2202
@Marekki2202 8 жыл бұрын
Tenor Sax B I think Luke was talking about the band... "Animals as Leaders"
@colostrum5853
@colostrum5853 8 жыл бұрын
never too late to start listening to that band!
@tyrander1652
@tyrander1652 8 жыл бұрын
I love the Animals. Eric Burden rocks! Leaders of Rock and Roll!
@colostrum5853
@colostrum5853 8 жыл бұрын
Tyrander165 totally agree with you. but do check out the band "animals as leaders"
@tyrander1652
@tyrander1652 8 жыл бұрын
I have been educated, and now I feel old. LOL
@webdevacademy3496
@webdevacademy3496 Жыл бұрын
7th symphony is my favourite by far
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