Moshing with Physics | Jesse Silverberg | TEDxYale

[@mitigiant5328]

It is awesome to watch Metal TEDs

[@BronzeShow]

Tedals as we say in the industry

[@killianbrown7280]

The air is moshing.... that is so Metal XD

[@thomastibbs6358]

Next mosh pit I'm in imma scream I am the air and no one but the people who watched this will understand

[@harrisonhilbert2013]

I saw this at a Polaris show. A wall of death turned into a circle pit. Physics statistics, calculus and breakdowns in one video. Every one of my favorite things

[@NathanielBTM]

Polaris... Good taste bro... Been listening since early 2016 and following ryan from his old KZbin cover days :D

[@aspartamekillsyaknow9019]

Not really

[@MarkArandjus]

In Ozzy's defense he thought the bat was a toy ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[@Null_Vampyrr]

he says that but the truth is that he was doped off this universe

[@NiaaProductions]

there is a difference between a mosh pit and a circle pit. it's actually a thing.

[@CERBERUS1O8]

I was thinking the same thing!

[@arturogarcia5325]

Circle pits are a thing now but back in the day circle pits would sometimes just happen during mosh pits. So someone named it and its a thing now

[@mdh6977]

Yeah, he kinda pointed that out with his equations and models... glad you were paying attention!!

[@dupirechristophe7703]

@@arturogarcia5325 I guess some Sufi-Metal band was playing those times x''D

[@kevinhegarty5775]

And as far as NY goes punk hardcore pits is all about style. I wonder how that changes the equation

[@n3Cr0ManCeD]

No Karate in the Pit....Ever. Just sayin.

[@joeyoksh]

I love Havok \m/

[@DavidRamirez-ue8gv]

We the hardcore kids will stay out of Thrash shows if you stay out of HxC shows xD

[@tommiethrash]

Esteban Ramirez Lopez meh... I like mixing it all together.

[@truedarklander]

@@DavidRamirez-ue8gv don't stay out just don't do karate

[@DavidRamirez-ue8gv]

@@truedarklander I never stay :v

[@mathieumeneray2990]

What's about Wall Of Deaths then ?

[@sensorymultimedia]

It's an experiment in what happens when 2 masses collide

[@MmeHyraelle]

Conscioulsy deciding to collide in two waves^^

[@Anthony-hi1ih]

Not 2 pits colliding. Im sure by the time you see this, you would have seen the videos of this.

[@918273645ist]

Huh.... No matter what I come across regarding metal, it always seems to reveal fundamental truths about the human condition. And apparently, physics too.

[@natelandherr5202]

DUNCAN HILLS COFFEEEEE

[@claybutler]

The counterclockwise circle happens because most people are right handed and you want to have your lead leg and arm on the outside of the circle.

[@firzenfire990]

Very educational, will check out your works. Also, NO KARATE IN THE PIT!

[@NathanCline12-21]

Rules of the Pit 1. Don't touch women. 2. Don't purposefully try to hurt someone. 3. Don't drop someone. 4. If someone goes down, pick them up.

[@flyboymcgee8059]

And then Deathklok trolled a Ted Talk. What a beautiful time to be alive

[@kazoolordhd6591]

i love that he used the dethklok duncan hills coffee jingle

[@maxwelch3791]

Force of Breakdown. He forgot that one.

[@theeadriaticsea]

the only thing here in Iowa is known for is slipknot and ozzy getting banned for 20 years for biting the head off a bat😂

[@gerrybegnoche1561]

Little known fact, chiropractic treatment started in Iowa, not that anyone cares lol

[@awertyuiop8711]

@@gerrybegnoche1561 Well, actually...

[@lfox02]

Yooooo! +1 for the Duncan Hills Coffee Jingle.

[@jayblack5231]

His simulation doesn't include: Desire to face a certain direction like the stage That people get dizzy before they get too jostled That non-participating people who get sucked in want to get out And the gap between the non-participators and the pit and the dynamic of that space The relationship between push pits and circle pits (in an old thrash show-type context) was really cool, though

[@jimmyhendrix7111]

= noise

[@jayblack5231]

@@jimmyhendrix7111 what

[@somebodyandthem]

Very interesting, good ted talk

[@rsn9394]

Molecules in the air are moshing!!

[@nephrenqayin254]

Seriously??.....Dethklok's Duncan Hills Coffee jingle while using a wall of death moshpit clip?? 😂😂

[@cernunnosrook6641]

My experience with the circles was that it was a defense against the bigger tougher guys who gravitate towards the center and just knock everyone around.

[@rmortemdnon7637]

*clip of crowd surfing* "this is called moshing"

[@BoWeava]

The two doves incident is still extremely symbolic.

[@_APOGEE]

Are you ready for coffee? Real coffee. From the hills, of columbiaaaaaa!

[@mr.ch4rli3_]

Wooooo The Epiphany I had during one particularly intense LSD trip while listening to dark progressive psy-trance during a festival called Eclipse was totally spot on lmfao

[@TheadorePoundcake]

Dude wrote an entire Ted talk about what metal heads have been doing for decades. This is the world we live in.

[@TheZahilia]

This talk was amazing.🎉🎉🎉🎉

[@jhalkiasdura]

FFS there is no such thing as dark metal!

[@cjz27]

Yiannis Yes There are Look them up

[@utterdisaster603]

Cj Z “them”

[@bolillo5013]

Some great bands at the end

[@jackscully7986]

can someone answer me why mosh pits always go counter clockwise?

[@cheshirecynic4524]

Only in the northern hemisphere

[@enlightenedwiseman6239]

I think its because most people are right handed/footed. I play hockey along with others that are right handed/footed and its much easier to make counter clockwise circles then clockwise. It has something to do with the coordination/strength of the right side.

[@cheshirecynic4524]

@@enlightenedwiseman6239 Good point, like why backside tricks are typically easier than frontside in skateboarding, it uses more of your dominant and stronger muscles

[@enlightenedwiseman6239]

@@cheshirecynic4524 Thanks. I was actually talking about the circle pit rotation the other day while attending a cannibal corpse show. Plus we ARE in the northern hemisphere, lol!

[@thomastibbs6358]

What song did he play with the mosh pit, I liked it

[@crossdamnation3274]

Dethklok- Coffee jingle

[@zer0deltav367]

7:13 some poor dude got sucked into the pit

[@lhimmortal1523]

FANTASTIC!!

[@coralpilled]

When the hardcore band's guitarist looks at you like this you know you're about to die in the pit

[@EvilSSP]

I will no longer refer to it as a "circle pit", it will henceforth be called a "flock of moshers". Thank you.

[@emreozyagcilar1021]

What was the song at 3:40

[@ericmattingly9810]

I need to know how that was

[@hollowsoul666]

Duncan Hills Coffee Jingle by Dethklok

[@arturogarcia5325]

Bruh common bruh. Use your sharingan.

[@MattyRude910]

Yo, a circle pit is a different thing than a mosh pit.

[@arturogarcia5325]

Obviously. Whats your point?

[@mdh6977]

Yeah, he knows that... listen to his words with your ears and your mind, not just your mouth, or in this case fingers... he was pretty clear about that and is a part of the entire point of the video

[@sleeplesshead602]

You have to add more of this topic. Metal.

[@DavidDArcy1975]

just to clarify.... Ozzy was under the impression that the bat was a toy before he bit into it

[@nikhilshrestha206]

love this

[@hipflask]

God damn I love metal 🤘

[@jeffbobbin]

Metal Ted talks bring more ! Play “Declaration” by The Conduit too. Thanks 🤘

[@Melinacabin]

Great topic! It may not have caught all the numbers but can I say those of us that watched it really enjoyed it! “All in all is all we are” Kurt Cobain

[@krrrruptidsoless]

So when somebody on some Forum start saying we ought to start doing a figure eight instead of a circle. What theory is that going to be under? Some figure eight racer will say, oh that's the theory of high speed collision avoidance at the center of attraction after having gone through opposing repulsion loops. 😐

[@igor.meh.design]

if someone falls YOU HELP HIM/HER

[@Impzhahaha]

SCREEEAM... FOR YOUR CREEEAM

[@personbelowmesmells9867]

Moshing evolved from the pogo created by the punks Punks created "metal dancing"

[@AW-qz4kk]

Yup

[@HermanWaldorf]

in fact, the real mosh you can experience is at hc gigs

[@earthrocker4247]

\m/ \m/. Scream for me bacteria!

[@zombiemorgue178]

have you ever seen the aerial view of a toilet flushing,add some cheerios,instant mosh pit,,or in this case science

[@thomastibbs6358]

I didn't see deathcore on that sub genre thingy

[@casperk7310]

There are over 400 sub genres it's a bit difficult to list them all

[@imantssafronovs9245]

The website is cool

[@henrykarlsson5845]

Circle pit = best pit

[@Jmack7861]

He put the video of the dude with the cup in this video lol

[@Jsnabahuakwna877an]

DETHKLOK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@wyattschirrick6437]

I have thought about this too! But, I never did anything with it. I just thought it was a cool idea.

[@hilalabbas2648]

🤘

[@The_mimic_well]

HE FORGOT DEATHCORE😭

[@Anonymous_Eyeballs]

In some states, the Wall of Death is illegal

[@cashchaulk-hansen3202]

Ozzie thought that the bat was a fake

[@kevinhegarty5775]

Too bad it's been so long since this was posted BUT Hardcore Punk Moshing is quite different.(punk being where "Moshing" started. The term Moshing is Americans misunderstanding a Jamaican accent. Mashing being the intended word) Metal pits = slam dancing & circle pits--- mostly reactionary But how does the equation that was presented change when style is introduced? Punk/hardcore= pogo, skanking -(many varieties), two stepping, stomping- (many varieties). Beat down, slam dancing, circle pits--- INTENTIONAL.... not to say that reactionary behavior isn't present. It is. But the simulation doesn't show.. flocking that is intentional nor intentional flocking simultaneously going on while Reactionary flocking is also going on. I guess the point of the question is how does the simulation/ equation change with the introduction of style/intentional behavior❓❓❓❓

[@krrrruptidsoless]

The bands ought to set their speakers in a large circle so that the sound collides is in the center. And they can make the music go to different sides like if it all goes to one side everybody flows to that side where the sound is and if it goes to the other side they flow to the other side and if it starts going around a circle of speakers and they start going in a circle and then when it collides in the center again they Collide in the center and if it splits to four sides, Etc.

[@joaonogueira6247]

let him wait to see the big pit on Lamb of God @ Altice Arena 2019

[@truanarchy6315]

Duncan hills coffee- dethklok

[@severngamingnetwork]

Interesting, but I think this was an almost disingenuous presentation of the data. If the law he is attempting to show evidence for (the physical laws related to collective motion "staying the same") he's presenting the circle pits as "emergent"; i.e, people go from the random looking "moshing" to a circle pit as a result of the physical laws, but that's just not the case. Circle pits are almost always "called for" by the band's vocalist; they are essentially a "set piece" and rarely happen in emergent fashion. The Killswitch Engage gig moment captured was a good example; the song is "Rose of Sharyn" and everyone knows that's the moment for a circle pit, especially as the vocalists are calling for it. I groaned a little when everyone started laughing at the Killswitch circle pit footage as it appeared to be exploitation of the ignorance of the audience to "illustrate" his point.

[@fernandogonzalez9222]

That is an intresting photo of ozzy looks like if ge was on coke on this photo

[@rsn9394]

Circle pit \m/

[@Kendor1222]

The guy was kinda cringy but overall good. Ive seen worse ted talks

[@sgtsimplycrispy7749]

DETHKLOK

[@AW-qz4kk]

Moshing started from punk..

[@krrrruptidsoless]

Angel Westbrook And since has evolved into a bacteria according to the speaker.

[@arturogarcia5325]

Your point?

[@truedarklander]

Ok cool

[@MajesticDemonLord]

He cut it off right in the middle of the Guitar Solo....

[@Coloradiohead]

It's Hasan Minhaj but as a white dude.

[@justfishing7078]

It's a circle pit, done on purpose and became a popular form of moshing. Enough talking get to moshing.

[@decadentrejects7338]

He forgot about groove metal

[@seenbelow]

It's some tribal thing I guess. I love it too

[@Starry_Night_Sky7455]

Next time, this speaker can leave out the Ozzy bit that features horrible cruelty to a defenseless creature. No need to highlight such a wrong thing to do. That's a complete lack of empathy. He was over the hilt on alcohol and drugs at the time. I'm more ashamed of the rest of the people that get a kick out of mentioning such shameful antics over and over again. It's not cute, funny, or worthy of highlighting unless you intend to rectify the wrongdoing by insisting it won't happen again. You know, a teachable moment. Okay, point said. The rest of this talk is quite enjoyable! Moshing is unified chaos. Fantastic!!!!

[@devarshraval4692]

ozzy likes animals rights

[@killswitchlee123]

It is a historic moment for shock value in not just Metal music, but music in general.

[@arturogarcia5325]

Lmao if you can't get over a bird and a bat dying. How are you gonna react when something that's actually tragic happens to you. 😂😂😂 I almost feel sorry for you

[@untamablebenjamin]

Pfftttttttttt doesn't even include Djent. what is this, 2015?!

[@max8m1]

Djent isn't strictly a subgenre of metal. Then again, he didn't mention Sludge, Post and Math Metal either. At this, point, I don't think even Death Metal is a real subgenre either. With how different Melodeath, Tech Death, Brutal Death, Old School Death, etc are you kinda have to differentiate between those too. The point being, that list could span multiple slides if he included an exhaustive list x)

[@jaynikki2064]

Should’ve included GWAR into your research

[@ravingrabbidnate1480]

These Tedals tho

[@Rileys_guitar_lounge]

He has his facts wrong in the beginning

[@creetan9997]

Led Zeppelin is not metal(classic metal)

[@BoWeava]

LZ is not heavy metal. I dare you to try and prove me wrong...😈

[@sl0th259]

Someone ignored punk 😤

[@deathmetal0073]

Led Zeppelin is not heavy metal!

[@thrillfly384]

This kid is kind of a failed rocker turned scientist type.

[@alextritch4578]

C'mon..... Punk created the pit... And we have respect for it! What you show is why people will never understand what it is or what we do....

[@nemesisbreakz]

I drop bows

[@dragtr0n]

Djent?

[@chrisvisconti1142]

Debarghya Choudhury DJENT BORES ME

[@joeyoksh]

No. Never. No.

[@thombakker2835]

Yes please

[@LadyJaggerX3]

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[@rmortemdnon7637]

Led Zeppelin isn't metal! 2 minutes in and I'm already mad.

[@electronicaids6096]

lol of course it metal

[@ezekielgehr6930]

DETHKLOK