Teenage Engineering OP-XY vs OP-Z: Arranging

[@videosarchive8058]

Thanks for the video! This seems essential. Cheers mate!

[@pocketspell]

Thanks for the inspiration!

[@DomDomPop]

Honestly I like the scene approach better. Yeah, it’s a little more work, but think of it this way: we had a bunch of patterns on the Z, but so many of them were duplicating parts from other patterns just to have this instrument come in on this one and then the next is n+1 again for the next instrument. What if you wanna drop an instrument? Gotta either chain back to a previous pattern that lacks that instrument, use mute groups, or make a new pattern. When the patterns are just the individual ingredients waiting to be combined, now the scenes can act like Z patterns used to, while the patterns themselves can stay separate for easier recombination later. At least that’s how I think of it. It’s a bigger deal when you want to have different effects at different times or sequenced parameters and stuff but keep them separate from the pure patterns so you can do them different ways without committing them to a pattern.

[@pocketspell]

Totally agree! I'd rather have it this way, will just take some getting used to

[@videosarchive8058]

OK me again, I think I have it. Let me double check. So when building a song we can do so by using one scene and muting tracks within the scene and creating new scenes with variations of what is muted or not that’s option one. Then there’s option two, which is to copy and paste Each track to create multiple scenes. Does that make sense option one is essentially creating one pattern loop and muting tracks that contribute to that loop option two is copying and pasting the scene and making variations to each of those.

[@pocketspell]

Creating a scene basically boils down to two components: choosing which tracks are muted or not muted, and choosing which pattern will be playing for each track

[@pocketspell]

When creating multiple patterns for a track, you can either copy/paste or create a new blank pattern. What's interesting about this function is that each pattern on a track does not necessarily need to share the same instrument or parameters

[@videosarchive8058]

@@pocketspell Aha! I see, that makes sense. Many thanks!!

[@Khordmaster]

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[@BIG1TOWER]

If the op-z build was better i would it just for the size but i have heard horror stories about double trigger and bending. I don’t want to deal with that. The op-xy is much better in almost every way but $2400 is a big investment I would have to save up for.

[@pocketspell]

I agree the OP-XY is a major investment, but if you're not up for it the OP-Z is absolutely amazing. There's nothing "horrifying" about a 1mm bend or the occasional double trigger considering how much fun and functionality you get for $350 used

[@jantuitman]

I would not buy it again, my op-z had the shift key double triggering, that made the device completely unusable.

[@pocketspell]

@@jantuitman ahh ok, that's pretty bad