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@jalenellis3594 Жыл бұрын
This is "THAT" episode which years later became inspiration for The Last Ronin with different circumstances. The crazy part about this episode is that little slimeball managed to defeat an op character like Silver Sentry, he's more worse than the 2012 Shredder.
@Samgreen903 ай бұрын
This is one of my favorite episodes because it got dark AND emotional.
@chadwickmale2998 Жыл бұрын
I think they gave Donnie this episode was to show that he is the glue that keeps them together. Though, they all an important part of the team. That’s what makes them the tmnt, they are stronger together. It also showed how much they relay on each other, mainly Donnie for his intelligence, cause he figures stiff out
@jalenellis3594 Жыл бұрын
It's a good thing it was just him, the others would've cracked under the pressure: Leo and Raph would've been more edgy, Mikey would've been more horrified to have seen his counterpart.
@ChrisandLyra Жыл бұрын
We totally agree!!
@lucindamobley549210 ай бұрын
One thing that makes me sad (amongst other things) is Mikey's reaction versus Leo and Raph's to seeing Donnie again. He kept his entire angry attitude the whole episode and the other two were overjoyed to see him. I think Donnie being gone made Mikey feel abandoned because of how close the two of them were as the younger siblings. That plus all the fighting and eventual split up between Leo and Raph I think made Mikey bitter and he gave up on being his normal goofball self and hardened his heart. Then at the end I think he was trying to apologize. He loved his brothers more than anything despite all that happened.
@digitaladventurer21423 ай бұрын
and like Mikey said he's also the levelheaded one. Leo may be the leader due to his ability to make choices that work on the fly and stuff but he's also very emotional and quick to give into them.
@Depth217 Жыл бұрын
This episode was one of the last to air before the S3 finale Exodus when Shredder tries to begin his reign of terror in space anew. In Real World Part 2, Lord Simultaneous says the Time Scepter has a mind of its own, and can sense good and evil. So I think the Time Scepter sent Donnie to the bad future timeline to give the Turtles a sort of advance warning to what Shredder will do if he succeeds in Exodus, raising the stakes and making things much, much worse.
@ryanmoore62594 ай бұрын
Basically it's saying THIS IS WHAT WILL HAPPEN IF THE SHREDDER SUCCEEDS. In that regards it works well. It raises the stakes.
@milesbradshaw6643 Жыл бұрын
Easily one of, if not the darkest TMNT episodes.
@ChrisandLyra Жыл бұрын
Exactly! It is
@Katfish1216 Жыл бұрын
Also insane in the membrane is pretty unhinged
@SupportTheLittleGuy2 ай бұрын
Only thing that can be worse is the last ronin
@ameen1443 Жыл бұрын
Damn this episode still gets me emotional after all these years. Great moment where Don explains at 22:43 that the whole attack was planned out exactly as it happened. Don had to make the difficult sacrifices in order to make Shredder gloat in his face so he could finish him. Such a great episode and so glad you two enjoyed it ❤
@andreyraven53162 ай бұрын
10:50 Without a doubt, this is my favorite moment in the whole TMNT. The gloomy atmosphere, the hope that some hope is left, the emotionless Mikey, the God-forsaken park, the quiet music of sensei...and then the grave. Fantastic sound work. Goosebumps come every time.
@hhhhhhh3468 Жыл бұрын
This episode makes sense to Donatello, we have never seen before Donatello cared Sometimes he is distant from his brothers because of his inventions But this episode is the first time we see that Donatello was angry and that he cared a lot about his family
@JustJuLivingLife Жыл бұрын
Family over everything
@ChrisandLyra Жыл бұрын
The other side of Don! 🙌
@blueredisme8261 Жыл бұрын
Why does Donatello have such a world? I'll explain it now. All the turtles were sent to those dimensions that are related to their previous actions before the appearance of Draco and Daimio's Son. For example, Michelangelo read comics about superheroes, he was brought into the world of superheroes. Rafael was fixing a bike, he was sent to the world of racing. Donatello was discussing past time travel with April and he was sent into the future. I'm sorry if I wrote it with mistakes. English is not my native language.
@ChrisandLyra Жыл бұрын
Don't worry. It is understood. TMNT is just so awesome!!
@Cinquan Жыл бұрын
It truly comes to show how much of an difference it really makes to not have Donatello around. Considering how much of a possibility that future could be. Donatello, is always an very important factor to his family.
@Thatskeybladelover Жыл бұрын
Alternate reality but potential future was hard to watch. Michelangelo becoming the ronin, Donnie disappeared, and Leo and Raphael distant after the deaths of splinter and Casey.
@Samgreen903 ай бұрын
(At 21:55) The worst part about _this_ scene is… how he dies… by his brother's side.
@SupportTheLittleGuy2 ай бұрын
Pretty awesome and gruesome how donnie ended shredder, shows how much of a badass he is
@georgikahchiev3058 Жыл бұрын
Donnie do be getting the most brutal scenarios,great ep.
@ChrisandLyra Жыл бұрын
I know, this is crazy!!
@LemonMeerkat2305 ай бұрын
One of the greatest episodes in this show and all TMNT shows. Sad, dark, brutal episode. Top 3 for me.
@fdjtron1732 Жыл бұрын
Imo, this is the best episode of any TMNT show. After you watch the finale 2 episodes of this season i advice you to rewarch this episode and then put 2 and 2 together to understand how exactly Shredder was able to conquer world
@ChrisandLyra Жыл бұрын
Yea, we agree. This is one of the best episode of TMNT.
@christianfrost8660 Жыл бұрын
I do like how Karai was shown to beat both Leo and Raph. Karai and Leo have the real rivalry but once again we see Raph hates Karai.
@jalenellis3594 Жыл бұрын
I'd prefer the 2012 Karai than this one. The 2012 one is actually really cool, while the other one is a lost cause too blind on honor to realize that she's caused 30 years of suffering to an entire planet.
@jamescadet4450 Жыл бұрын
@@jalenellis3594plus 2012 Karai is better looking and more fitting voice.
@Samgreen902 ай бұрын
(At 18:53) Hun… You had *one* job.
@Battleguy_515XD Жыл бұрын
Greatest episode. But I wished this was in 2 parts. I wanted them to explore more of this alternate universe. Love your reactions. You guys are great!!
@ChrisandLyra Жыл бұрын
Thank you! We appreciate it!
@TevyaSmolka Жыл бұрын
This was technically last ronin before last ronin was a thing because holy shit this was a dark episode.
@ShewolfAlpha-np3gm5 ай бұрын
I wish someone somewhere would make an AU series based off the TMNT season 3 episode 21. Like what if (AU 1.) Dony was stuck in that world and had to bury his brothers where Master Splinter is and help April repair NEW York. Then adopts an orphan baby (human or mutant turtle). Or maybe (AU 2.) Dony somehow dies and his soul has to find a way through the ghoul's lands. But when he gets back it is 30 years later (then we watch the episode starting at the timeline 2:39) then after defeating the Shredder Dony with his soul powers (that he did not know that he had until he got very sad) brought his brothers back but accidently brought Karai back too. So, when everyone's back is turn (from being very happy to see each other) Karai sneaks to sound the alarm making April and the guys make a run for it in the tunneler. Dony helps April repair New York he also repairs his bond with his brothers (family time) and find a way to stop Karai (be the way Karia is a very strong lady but with the shedder gone the Foot are ether running scared or begging April to let them join her team). Dony is also running out of time, the ghost's land are calling him. Or maybe perhaps what if (AU 3.) after Master Splinter death his soul went looking for his son (Dony) but instead of finding his Dony he found another Dony and brought him back to his AU to try to save his sons and the world then we start at 2:39 (of the episode). Then after defeating the Shredder (and somehow Leo, Raph, & Miky did not die) Master Splinter asks Dony to stay. What will Dony say? Now to all those who are thinking WHY DON'T YOU JUST DRAW A COMIC YOURSELF? Great question the answer is that I have 0% of editing skills and -0% drawing skills. So, whoever want to take one of these ideas and run with it PLEAESE DO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@JustJuLivingLife Жыл бұрын
I remember having Donnie’s exosuit toy when I was a kid. Also if you thought this was crazy, wait til you get to the lost episodes!
@ChrisandLyra Жыл бұрын
Yea, this is crazy and so tragic. If there is more tragic than this? That's wild
@brandomiguelvergarainga6834 Жыл бұрын
one of the best episodes from this show
@sudatayo3081 Жыл бұрын
You guys are amazing for reacting to this series of TMNT and I think that's not said enough
@ChrisandLyra Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much, much appreciated!!!
@FullTimeUncleJunior88 Жыл бұрын
This was one of the episodes I was talking about that you guys would go nuts over and it would blow your mind over the reality of it
@ChrisandLyra Жыл бұрын
It did, this is a very tragic episode. We are on our emotions watching this.
@Samgreen902 ай бұрын
(At 22:15) I know this came out way before DBZ abridged but I'm just going to say it anyway. Future Shredder: Karai, why… didn't… you… DODGE?!
@s4mur4rtist218 ай бұрын
what ive always wondered with this ep is if its another dimension and not the future, whatever happened to this worlds donnatello, did their version actually just leave them and ended up dying or is he alive out there somewhere
@WWTWW Жыл бұрын
I don't think Donnie went into another dimension. I think he went into the future, or rather, an alternative future (hence the title "Same As It Never Was"). I think the title's "Never Was" is indicating that the events in this episode hasn't happened *yet* (meaning that it can also be changed). I think there's another episode that implies that this is the case, but I don't want to spoil anything so that's all I'll say.
@jalenellis3594 Жыл бұрын
Definitely alternate timeline
@Thatskeybladelover Жыл бұрын
The foot have become a Nazi empire in this timeline. The age of ninjas is over
@Hollowmello1285 Жыл бұрын
Yeah after the whole time travel thing it became @@jalenellis3594
@ijionclifton9148 Жыл бұрын
They just sent the turtles randomly except leo and sensei but you will see why when you see leos world
@ChrisandLyra Жыл бұрын
Saw it! This is crazy!
@GhoSt-cv1de Жыл бұрын
Wow! I'm happy that you drop this episode so fast
@natepark8359 Жыл бұрын
So many arms with so many blades and yet not one of them was used by the Shredder to cut those binding chains 😅
@ChrisandLyra Жыл бұрын
Right? 🤣🤣🤣
@FullTimeUncleJunior88 Жыл бұрын
You guys should watch the special intro to this episode. It's called the same as it never was. It was done so bad and sad. You guys should to a reacting video to it
@Katfish1216 Жыл бұрын
Pre last ronin story
@Moonbloom223Ай бұрын
Welcome to the source of my TMNT trauma until later adaptations replaced it
@Battleguy_515XD Жыл бұрын
22:20 Who the hell says "I am finished" before dying?? 🤣
@ChrisandLyra Жыл бұрын
🤣🤣
@GollyJolly Жыл бұрын
Pit from Kid Icarus
@exon2004-y5x Жыл бұрын
Mikey without arm Raph without eye Leo is blind Splinter dies Casey dies
@ChrisandLyra Жыл бұрын
Very tragic and emotional. This is a shocker episode.
@sougotokiwa84397 ай бұрын
Hell on Earth...
@andrewphillips2179 Жыл бұрын
Chris and Lyra, That was an awesome and fantastic Reaction to one of the best episodes of TMNT 2003. Also, Donatello had to help Leonardo, Raphael, Donatello, April O'Neill, Hun, and Baxter Stockman in taking care of the Shredder. Also, The blaster that April O'Neill use to take care of Karai was awesome. Also, Donatello took care of the Shredder. Also, I am looking forward to the 2 Part Reaction episode of TMNT 2003. Also, A Question for you and Lyra, Was this one of the best episodes of TMNT 2003? Also, You and Lyra are amazing in uploading the reaction episodes of TMNT 2003.❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤💐💐💐💐💐💐💐💐💐
@Bostonterrierslol Жыл бұрын
I have a bit of a love/hate relationship with this one
@andreix4025 Жыл бұрын
Man how did others get fun stuff but donnie withnesse death
@jalenellis3594 Жыл бұрын
Oh, the others will have experienced death (The Last Ronin)
@andreix4025 Жыл бұрын
@@jalenellis3594 thats not cannon to 2003 Also the last roinnin is mickey