Tekken 8 ▰ BlackHeart (Lidia Sobieska) Vs TheMainManSwe (Kazuya) ▰ Player Matches

Tekken 8 ▰ BlackHeart (Lidia Sobieska) Vs TheMainManSwe (Kazuya) ▰ Player Matches
𝙏𝙝𝙞𝙨 𝘾𝙝𝙖𝙣𝙣𝙚𝙡 𝙄𝙨 𝘼𝙡𝙡 𝘼𝙗𝙤𝙪𝙩 𝙂𝙖𝙢𝙞𝙣𝙜 𝘾𝙤𝙣𝙩𝙚𝙣𝙩.....𝙒𝙝𝙞𝙘𝙝 𝙃𝙖𝙫𝙚 𝘾𝙝𝙖𝙧𝙖𝙘𝙩𝙚𝙧 𝘾𝙤𝙢𝙗𝙤 𝙂𝙪𝙞𝙙𝙚, 𝘾𝙝𝙖𝙧𝙖𝙘𝙩𝙚𝙧 𝙏𝙪𝙩𝙤𝙧𝙞𝙖𝙡 𝙂𝙪𝙞𝙙𝙚, 𝙋𝙪𝙣𝙞𝙨𝙝𝙢𝙚𝙣𝙩 𝙂𝙪𝙞𝙙𝙚, 𝘼𝙣𝙙 𝙈𝙖𝙩𝙘𝙝𝙚𝙨.....𝙆𝙚𝙚𝙥 𝙄𝙣 𝙏𝙤𝙪𝙘𝙝.....𝙏𝙝𝙖𝙣𝙠𝙨 𝙁𝙤𝙧 𝙒𝙖𝙩𝙘𝙝𝙞𝙣𝙜.....
#tekken8lidiasobieska #lidiasobieskatekken8 #tekken8replaystelly

[@blackheart59_]

I approve this gameplay

[@tekken8replaystelly]

You are best with Lidia bro

[@blackheart59_]

I am Italian tho, can you please change thumbnail? ​@@tekken8replaystelly

[@tekken8replaystelly]

@@blackheart59_ sorry for my mistake bro . Let me correct the flag thank you for telling

[@Nallenbot]

TMM spent the whole time saying (whining) that Lidia was weak, that you beat him with ff2, hopkicks and anti Kazuya fundamental gameplay. What is your take on Lidia and the character contribution in these games?

[@blackheart59_]

@@Nallenbot once she will be studied, she is not SUPER strong, but she has clear strengths. She also has a lot of weaknesses, so in the end the character feels pretty solid but balanced. We'll see on the long term

[@mellok8780]

2:57 surely he wont do again ahh moment 😂

[@valen-rb1uq]

Born to mixup 😜 Forced to eat 50/50 😢

[@TheMicrac]

Wanna hear kazuya say Hack Tuah? 0:33

[@midgarhq7645]

was that a Kazuya "Hack Tuah" at 0:33 ???

[@greenluca_9719]

🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@leinad2934]

Both Kazuya and Bryan have their own hawk tuah's lol

[@BlackViod]

lmfao get some help

[@Khazulduhuens]

LMAO

[@303Smilezzz]

He definitely spit on that thang

[@OmarQahtani]

15:40 that wakeup interrupt was so weird xd

[@flareon_the_prophet5205]

a bug to fix im sure

[@rexdev4489]

Damn, that was quick af

[@pelucapeluda7306]

it's called instant while rising, and it only happens when you're face down and head first. kzbin.info/www/bejne/iaHWZIdolt2Bp9ksi=pBj_6g_O3JKtbhiu

[@choopocobra]

reached a mile away

[@K3nshiiiii]

It's because Lidia was face down on oki. If you press up to stand, you can do either of your while standing kicks. Only from face down though.

[@tekkenzaibatsumishim]

Her mix ups and frame traps are beyond crazy

[@niltondiaz7945]

Was thinking the same. Reminds me of Leo a bit

[@thadream_13_10]

Very Leo

[@hahahaha-rt6lb]

mixup, yes. frame traps, idk... too many auto stance transitions

[@cybersteel8]

Nah tbh her frames are pretty bad, you can jab her out of every stance and the one option that might beat jab is pretty mid. I agree that she makes you scared when she goes into stance but there isn't really anything threatening that you can't block or jab her out of

[@tekkenzaibatsumishim]

@@cybersteel8 I ve seen many high Rank fights against Lydia and I ve barely if any, seen anyone jabbing her out of a stance after they blocked her moves that transition to a stance. I don't know. This looks like a significantly less risky, high rewarding execution compared to the likes of Jin's Zensushin. Even TheMainMan who is one of the top Kazuya players was almost helpless in this video. Almost all his options were eliminated

[@nocturnaldjinn243]

TMM getting schmixed after saying this character is bad lol

[@oneofthekindscarf8612]

Either its gonna be a while to get used to a gameplan to easily beat her Or she is pretty strong because of funny ff2 into crazy mix shenanigans

[@LouSassol69er]

Once people know her bs she'll get blitzed

[@rdowg]

It's almost like......she's a new addition or something lol Everyone was screaming about how eddy was for...what? A week before they found out how trash he is?

[@12himitsu12]

He never said anything close to the truth in all his videos, I really don't get why people watch him😂

[@finalboss5966]

tis cause ur statement is wrong

[@muddyanims6708]

Hearing all these things about spamming FF2 and how she's boring and lame but.. It's safe on block and she gets a mixup. Its like her best move. As a Kazuya player i see this as an absolute big brain decision. (Also you can just sidestep)

[@seenmess3228]

The last time I heard this argument was about victor

[@muddyanims6708]

@@seenmess3228 K. argument still stands, just practice. Every character in Tekken is beatable.

[@bilbot-baggins6965]

It looks way too easy to use and not very fun to watch either

[@muddyanims6708]

@@bilbot-baggins6965 Makes sense, goal is to win the match not win pretty.

[@moxdegiourno7984]

my way to counter this is just 1 jab when they do it on me if i block it to disorient their momentum and it works that is her weakness

[@Havoc_279]

Bro got knowledge checked

[@deejones8552]

Tekken 7 Lidia seems a bit stronger to me 😅

[@AlfalfaAccess]

True Tekken 7 Lidia Is stronger in the neutral game

[@fitzworld18]

This is the match up I've been waiting for 🔥🔥

[@DelphieNEhuntah]

Lidia is fantastic

[@daxia0]

0:50 ULTRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA COMBOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[@MerrStudio]

0:10 what is that move? is this FF 2? she makes a different sound and has blue sparks, how do you do that

[@raidar1221]

Probably just frame ff2

[@kumitsune5748]

It’s FFF3 instead of FF2

[@MerrStudio]

It is indeed some kind of frame FF2, I pulled it off twice after writing this comment but no idea how

[@lilkampf4492]

​@@MerrStudio happens when you do fff2 instead of just ff2 i believe

[@joshbell123]

It's similar to how drags running 2 works. If you do it really fast it will blue spark

[@Gturner27]

That hopkick gon be trooouble!

[@sagemodemason972]

Been trouble smdh

[@Chweedus]

T7 ptsd coming back

[@shoken4421]

Them boys fighting like it's Evo ! I love it

[@ltxr9973]

Seems even Mainman needs some time to adapt to a new character. But of course she's not half as confusing as Eddy was.

[@JustRick.]

That first perfect was like a shoulder check.

[@OmegaMishima]

Lidia just got released you can’t expect people to beat her that easily in the first 2 days of release. Give it time she will just be another mashing character to learn

[@maddinkn]

When I played her 2 days ago and played against another Lidia I learned that grappling works really good against her stance transition especially ff2 on block. Atleast that's what worked against me and the other player xD

[@Try_Hard_Dad]

armor on his F+2 or F1+2 counter punch woulda won SWE so many rounds

[@ArbiterEx]

She seems to be a rush down character with strong pressure that wants and needs to be in your face at all times, nasty at the wall but with no real poking or action at anywhere further than close range, her main tool to close the gap being ff2. Her forced stance transitions also (should) make her predictable enough to spot when to interrupt her, so at extremely high levels she would have to rely on fundamentals first like her jab. I think the best way to counter her is to keep her away with long mids, exploiting her transitions to cheap away at her and land big launches and counter hits when she gets careless.

[@asamataua]

Harada what are we doing man.

[@CelestialReaper]

2:58 Kazuya player using 100% of their brain power (2 Cells total) and winning the game lmao

[@Doublejho]

and yet if lidia blocked one they'd have won the game off of it, can't say there isn't risk involved

[@CelestialReaper]

@@Doublejho risk eating a hell sweep and losing 34-48 damage...or eating a WS2 which can lead up to at least 90. 1+2 which puts you on the ground again and here we go again. Or delayed hopkick...or ff2 which HE into another 50-50. Or DF1,2 which HE and puts you in yet another.....you get the point. Risking Getting hit by a mid from kazuya is far worse then getting HellSweeped. He is a walking 50-50 which is not even a true 50-50. More like 25-75 lmao. I am glad they buffed him, but sheeesh man. Especially that 1+4 in heat being almost as brain-dead as Yoshi's flash.

[@Doublejho]

@@CelestialReaper all i'm saying is, both options are very punishable on read and it was clutch that none of them got blocked

[@CelestialReaper]

@@Doublejho correct. And players weigh their choices and blocking a mid and eating a low is less riskier than blocking low and eating a mid. But his HS keeps putting you in a hard knockdown, so you're constantly making that decision.

[@geijienduro7610]

i'm getting lidia when she releases on the 25 but i won't play her until i finish training my ling and Lily. By then i am sure she will have her nerfs and buffs that i know are coming.

[@縣]

Her heat smash is S tier, heaven and earth after block seems so strong

[@Doublejho]

nah, as a reina main having a forced stance after heat smash actually backfires really hard, they can p much just rage art every time

[@縣]

@@Doublejho have you seen Lidia's options in stance

[@Doublejho]

@@縣 yes, unless she has a secret butterfly edge they're not going to save her from getting rage arted when trying to use it on-block for pressure

[@縣]

@@Doublejho Thats a stupid argument considering a competent player probably wont use it on an opponent that late into the match. Additionally if the said competent player were to do it against an opponent with rage its also something you would be watching out for. But lets say our main character, the Lidia player, regrettably falls for the rage art. The opponent could pretty much only do it once until it gets predictable and guarantees death. You cant compare a baby stance like Heaven's Wrath to Heaven and Earth. On block Lidia gets a Polish power or whatever that install is Can get a 50/50 with an unseeable unblockable which deals a million damage, a normal hit launcher on anyone who tries to block it (which is a power crush and only -11 on block) Or a hard wall-stun mid with a lot of chip damage which leaves you at +6!!!! The rage art example is so one dimensional and situational. There is no downside to this as you could choose to not press anything (like you can in a non stance forcing heat smash) except now you get 3 super powered moves and an install charge. Theres a reason this stance costs half your heat bar and then getting it on block on your heat smash is extremely generous. Im not saying a rage art isnt good counterplay as a last resort, but it does not excuse how good this heat smash is on block.

[@Doublejho]

@@縣 you do realise that an automatic stance transition stops her from blocking, right? maybe she won't be stuck in it like HWR but it can still backfire

[@greentlemann6378]

Thank god ranks are already adjusted, I don't wanna meet Tekken God Lidia on mid-ranks

[@deanradley65]

Played ranked last night and it was literally 90% Lidias all spamming that demo man like string.

[@UltimateBallaPOM]

The launch punishable one?

[@sagemodemason972]

In Tekken7 a lot of y’all forget or didn’t know Lidia and Fauk were made for tekken 8 in that game. Kazuya is in T7 now smdh

[@Shaeman111]

2:57 was my favorite part of this entire set

[@mishimaplayz]

Fr 😂

[@Vondarr]

She’s going to be a problem until the next update, her 50/50 & mix ups are crazy

[@kjwong4730]

As a kazuya player I feel the frustration

[@AngeloArcana]

No one going to mention the typo in the title card? "Main Ma*i*nSWE"?

[@MckaiserDragon]

6:30 im shocked that did so little dmg. all the work and it doesnt kill...

[@Wolfspane]

Mixture of the wall burst damage scaling and her not having any of her installs which increases her damage. She doesn't do nearly as much without the install.

[@mr.salvadore1666]

Im hoping for josie to be back. I really liked the sway stance on her

[@ruianduk3754]

she has good backdash.. above average.

[@Bair-sensei]

Respect to blackheart for cooking a player like main man he's the real deal

[@blackheart59_]

Thanks!

[@Chrismario880]

This Blackheart is awesome considering that he's on Raijin yet Mainman couldn't really do anything against him lol!

[@UltimateBallaPOM]

He has 31 characters on GoD rank...

[@blackheart59_]

fake Raijin, i got GoD today with the character ^^

[@thechosenone3625]

Who after tmm launch a 20min video talking bs about Lidia?

[@jaywalker3553]

Kazuya your lunch is ready 😂😂😂😂😂 they gotta give my boy either a hop or another quick cheap low man he’s always blocking no matter what while other people are mashing and going into stances it’s like what do you want me to do my god 😂😂😂😂😂

[@Doublejho]

he already has good moves, he's in a fine spot

[@cardinalaxelerator1861]

I like how devs nerf Reina's raiden so that Lidia can get her own one move spam what a cash grab of a character

[@oneonekiller3329]

Bro Raiden is ten times better than her ff2

[@remington_acr1651]

To be fair we wouldn’t have Reina without Lidia as a foundation.

[@frieda8745]

Lidia quite literally came first. Reina is just a modified Lidia.

[@riastradh]

Raiden came second and Raiden is still way better

[@ste9494]

Why you crying about your dumb move, Reina has plenty of good moves but you want to be so extra carried, you don’t want to use your brain or having to be actual good at tekken. That character is still oppressive without that move.

[@zukoulou7464]

Black Heart : Fighter in : _ Marvel Super Heroes _ Marvel vs Street Fighter _ Marvel vs Capcom 2 : New Age of Heroes Lidia is Polish. Prime Minister. "The Prime Minister Warrior " ! 😊

[@Bear-Power-Pup]

thx for combo video

[@mitsukiisbae6753]

Man, these two do not like blocking low...

[@DeividSantos12]

Lidia is so cool lol

[@straightinyourface5120]

Mainmen doesn't know the match up. Lydia looks a little unpredictable sometimes

[@LouSassol69er]

Spammeroni Pizza

[@blackheart59_]

Pineapple

[@MarcoriusXXL]

Este juego esta guapísimo pero no pago 30€ por la edición básica ni loco y menos aun 70€ o mas para tener el 100% del contenido, esta clase de juegos no se porque son estafas con patas siempre... En fin a ver si algún día baja cuando a no lo juegue nadie XD

[@AdamJensen-n3s]

11:00

[@michtir8113]

Whats the point on playing reina now that Lidia is out? She is similar but stronger and easier

[@Doublejho]

nah reina will probably be stronger, and apparently lidia feels kinda clunky

[@oneforall1234]

Yo haider bhau

[@rainofkhandaq6678]

Looks like miss "boring" just clowned on you mainman

[@castieldiallo2945]

Hes still full of it.

[@Mackeriv]

The latency is palpable.

[@cheyannicanewson2594]

I’m noticing she doesn’t take much damage with her combos

[@UltimateBallaPOM]

She has a launcher where she does 91 dmg without resources, and the hopkick combo here was the T7 staple. Too early to tell. Combo videos will be out soon.

[@94rodneyable]

OMG Lidia!

[@Damn3691]

boy MainMan got schooled

[@Grevier]

2:57 I can see trottolino

[@candasturan4559]

6:32-6:41what the actual f-... why did she do like at least 10 moves here and they all did only like 20 damage in total? Lmao

[@Doublejho]

scaled down after both wall bounce and heat dash

[@kinder2644]

7:54 ???

[@alejandrobustamante3323]

Masku

[@jamesmeikle7216]

Oh god another character about pressing ff2 into guess every 3 secs. Who enjoys that

[@dujekrneta7154]

Yeah this character is a hard pass for me,boring and bland

[@amarribrown2799]

Me

[@dujekrneta7154]

You really enjoy this boring version of reina?​@@amarribrown2799

[@grph1t3z]

Cry more

[@grph1t3z]

@@dujekrneta7154someone couldn’t afford it

[@tokyobassist]

MainManSwe here! I'm going rant for 25 minutes downplaying Kazuya and why Lidia is a war crime and why Tekken 8 is garbage this week.

[@LydellG4]

Absolutely rekt. Let his fans tell it he could win Evo😂

[@seeker0587]

Black heart- lidia is pretty good. Mainman-lidia is terrible. lol gameplay speaks volumes.

[@blackheart59_]

After playing her more, she seems mid

[@tiger-rgn]

at 12:06 WTF IS THIS SH*T? EMAIL HARADA NOW!

[@lukas1994ba]

dey tho

[@chainsawjax9406]

I get why they say she is weak..she requires skill, timing and commitment..you cant just button mash with her..she isnt brain dead like Reina…Lidia bout to save tekken8!!!

[@WEST-LINE]

Weak lol yeah i wish my devil jins ff2 was +5 on block and went into stance mix up. It looks so easy to apply pressure with lidia. Also calling reina braindead when she has one of the highest skill ceilings in the game is crazy af lol.

[@justin4018]

She’s brain dead. EZ as fuck precanned mixups. Sorry to pop your bubble.

[@watersports1381]

she is basically a faster short range leo

[@Doublejho]

braindead like reina, yeah ok lol

[@VolTheProducer]

Let's go mainmain!

[@pazyfae5309]

Xd no fck him

[@mkeonine]

Just mash bruh. It's Tekken.

[@nx_s]

TMM... certainly a talented technical player, but just doesn't understand how to properly apply frame data.

[@Adqwe467]

Wat are u on bout😂😂

[@frustratedlemur]

@@nx_s calling him a technical player then saying he doesn’t know how to apply frame data in one sentence is so odd LOL

[@slugshotgun]

"Lidia is B tier" - TMM

[@mannygomez3577]

Lidia is a problem lol

[@onlydivision5968]

Lidia is for random noob players

[@DarkLess89X]

He got tekken of destruction with all characters

[@_boux]

6:32 goddamn they really need to buff her damage by AT LEAST 30%, this shit is inexcusable, a wall to wall combo that did what, 50 damage?

[@gin2919]

Instantly burns heat dash into jab, it's normal damage in this regard

[@mishimaplayz]

Yea shes another spam ff2 cheap character

[@MrNoorIskandar]

Without Lidia, Reina is not there LMAOO

[@mishimaplayz]

@@MrNoorIskandar yea both are cheap trash cans imo, Reina replacing Heihachi? Nah glad he's coming back

[@alessandrolangiu2137]

Ff2,ff2,ff3,ff2,ff2,ff2…omg what a stupid and boaring gameplay

[@dujekrneta7154]

Kudos to anyone who would buy or play this boring character

[@drinksmilo]

leave the boars out of this you monster

[@jkdman2007]

Braindead easy mode character.

[@DNAofDeath]

Right… cos Mishima 1,1,2 and hell sweep are more interesting 😂😂

[@kingboms2691]

And what about spamming of hellsweeps and 1, 1, 2 Stfu and stop complaining

[@haquebergelaurent5255]

Not fun... yawn

[@itsbeen2068]

She makes very nasty noises.... worse then steve

[@LouSassol69er]

Can't be any worse than the anime crys of Xiaoyu

[@averagedenysenjoyer3779]

@@LouSassol69er Jun sounds like she's having orgasms lmao.

[@OctopusH2O]

The worst are Alisa and Jun

[@wkvfranco5986]

Tmm only wins when he spams hell sweeps

[@christophersmith5996]

If he spamming it it should be predictable right?

[@AK-sw1nj]

how does this even make sense?😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@princekanbatsu2301]

That's the only way Kazuya scares people into ducking. If you don't do that, people rarely will duck, which means you'll never get anything with Kaz. He doesn't have a string game, good throws or good pokes, so that's what we gotta do.

[@michaeldominy5526]

Low rank tmm hater spotted

[@muddyanims6708]

​@@princekanbatsu2301 Facts.

[@뻐거킹-j8r]

subman T.T

[@MonopoliMendoza]

52 83353 att Julio Rene Gutierrez Mendoza