Tekken 8 - Steve Fox Quick Start GUIDE

A quick introductory guide to Steve for Tekken 8. This video will go over his general gameplay overview, best moves, some stances, the new Lionheart stance, punishers, his Heat options, and some bread and butter (BnB) combos. Hopefully this will motivate someone new to pick up and play one of the most unique fighting game character ever created!
Timestamps:
00:00 Overview
00:56 Notable Moves
05:45 Peekaboo Stance (PKB)
07:09 Flicker Stance (FLK)
08:14 Duck-In (DCK)
09:10 Lionheart (LIH)
10:49 Punishment
13:09 Heat
14:38 Few BnB Combos

[@KrisDee1981]

Is this from the demo right? There are some changes with Steve. B2 1+2 on normal hit does 48 damage. It's almost like a mini combo because next you can always do wr2 for safety and 12 chip damage if they block. So at least 60 damage and +6. 1+2f in heat doesn't wall splat any more. Uf4 is now safe at -9 but only launch when CH.

[@soulxcv]

I'd also like to add that flk 1d1 doesn't launch anymore on CH. Pinning your comment for visibility. Thanks fam!

[@rainbowess4846]

14:40 for the BnBs Really recommend the rest of the video as well, really well made ty so much!

[@soulxcv]

Thank you so much! 😄 I realize I forgot to put timestamps on the vid, I'll add them when I can

[@TheThrillerJunkie]

I NEEDED a guide like this. Trying to learn Steve and this guide covers everything while being concise and well-edited. Thanks so much, fellow guv'nor!

[@MarleyVibes13]

Definitely deserves a thumbs up . Not only was this dope and informative, the chill music in the background too!. Always loved making Steve and this video was just 100 percent helpful!

[@soulxcv]

Appreciate the kind words friend!

[@ethannemec1957]

This is the first tekken tutorial video that has actually made sense to me. Great job communicating the information.

[@Fried_Hylian]

I’m determined to get decent at Steve in 8. Thanks for the crash course dude!

[@jermainec1225]

Same here, Steve in T7 was so intimidating that I didn’t even bother.

[@skyboundzoo]

Same let’s goooo!

[@data9594]

same. tekken 8 will be my game. I got ok at tekken 7 but ill go farther in this one

[@duffman18]

​@@skyboundzoo same here. I'm always late with fighting games, and it's difficult to get into a game that people have been playing for years already. This is the first time I'm here right at the beginning, bought it in the first week, been playing it every day. I'm never gonna be really good at it, I suck at fighting games, I just love to play them anyway. I just wanna get good enough to play online against people. And I am biased towards Steve because I'm British. It's probably a lame reason to want to play as a character, but I'm too patriotic I guess. Also he's the most unique character in the game, with no kicks available, only punches, and dodges instead of kicks on the kick buttons. No other character plays remotely like him. So that means he'll probably be difficult to counter, difficult to understand for opposing players. In theory, anyway. But yeah I suck at him at the moment. I'm far more used to the normal kind of tekken characters. It's hard to get out of the mindset that all the face buttons are attacks. Have to change the way you think, and that's tricky.

[@MinecraftMartin]

How's it going with Steve?

[@karapatotes]

This is a really fantastic guide, thanks 🙏 clear, informative and well structured

[@komedylover]

Great guide and easy to follow. Thanks for making Steve much more approachable to learn!

[@soulxcv]

You're welcome! Hope you have fun with the character, he's one of the most unique ones in the roster for sure 😁

[@Grind4Real]

Jack main picking Steve right now , the guide is amazing thanks my dude !

[@sirrivian]

I'm a newcomer to Tekken and low-intermediate level in other games - this is one of the best guides I've seen, complete with descriptions of when and how to use each move without overwhelming me in an approachable format with no bullshit. Information like the move at 7:30 being the reason people respect flicker communicates a lot, followed by the example is perfect

[@ILLSTATZ]

thanks ! this is the best guide i have encountered so far on tekken 8, very informative, usually everyone just does a word salad of attacks with no info. or even worse they dont even tell you the notations, not you though. keep it up i look forward to your future guides with other characters

[@takohma1056]

Amazing video. I’ll be watching again for my next training session. Thanks!

[@marcelobr96]

best tutorial ever, started in t7 but never picked steve in that game, im gonna try him out now thanks to your guide, cheers

[@ShampooMasta]

I just wanted to say thank you so much for this wonderful video! I’ve always wanted to play Tekken but it’s been such a daunting learning curve compared to other fighting games since it’s so vastly different to SF6 and MK1. I’m excited to learn Steve and understand what tools/combos I should be using. 10/10 video

[@soulxcv]

Thank you so much for your kind words!

[@SNK9]

Thank you so so much for this. Huge help, especially with the explanation on stance cancels.

[@tinyt.w.i.m7291]

Watching this guide at .75 speed to really absorb it all. The relaxing music helped the lesson.

[@soulxcv]

I'm glad it helped!

[@CrimsonBlack313]

Bro, I thank you for this video with Steve Fox. I've been playing him since tekken 5, but it seems that I have to work twice as hard now than before

[@chemicalfusion1320]

This was such a nice guide thank you so much.

[@internetmemeplace6886]

Amazing break down of the stances and the moves they have

[@Sunghanah]

Thank you for this guide.

[@adamseptian6922]

Great video,, you Made it so clean and clear

[@IRahkuBz]

exactly what I was looking for, thanks!!

[@heavensentaaron9191]

Hey I would like to tell you how impressive and helpful this guide is. Thank you

[@cmar601]

Amazingly well done. Neat and concise info. Me and my friend are learning Steve. This helped a TON. Subbed ofc.

[@soulxcv]

I'm really glad I could help!

[@Daemon1995_]

thank you for the combos as the end, i was looking for that, it seems some of them deals even more damage now on release

[@thomaslanger8376]

Excellent guide, my main is Steve, love the synergy stances and pressure, fun character to play

[@filippocorraini6082]

Thanks for the guide man, super in deep and very clear! Only one thought: as a new T8 player is not very clear to me which combos can be used on wall hit or low parry, so I think it would amazing to have a segment dedicated to that in the next videos. Other thank that, amazing work and thanks again for the tips!!

[@DeweezyDoesArt]

As a HUGE Steve Fox main, i appreciate this so much 🥹 You earned a new fan today keep it up ❤️

[@soulxcv]

Thank you, I appreciate it!

[@tuliokenaway7455]

I appreciate your dedication dude

[@Frostgunning]

amazing guide looking forward to watching more of your steve in the future + the music was chill as fck

[@HaoPK]

Great guide, quick & to the point, ty

[@Hermelin69]

Hey this was really helpful, thanks for making the guide

[@tkZombie_]

this is the kinda guide i wanna see when learning someone new in tekken. take my like and sub dude!

[@soulxcv]

I really appreciate it!

[@Royalfiasco]

Solid guide man! I've always used Paul since Tekken 2, and I've recently picked up Steve for 8. It's like night and day between the two 😅.

[@TheMegaParad]

Great guide, top content. Subbed

[@TheyNay]

Awesome video. I'm interested in Steve for this game as a secondary character, and couldn't find a good guide/rundown about him. And you even share those BnB I crave for practicing my execution on random characters! Thanks a lot :d

[@Strapawn]

This is hands down one of the best fighting game guides ive seen, thanks brother

[@Swinhoegaming]

This is a guide of a champion!

[@cruffatinliveth]

needed this! thanks

[@osenseo]

Great tut. Tnx

[@kervinlouis1005]

Oh shoot. You dropped this 👑

[@pingpongplaya]

I don't even play the game but this music selection is just what I like.

[@soulxcv]

Lofi guitar music is just what everyone needs

[@terane0998]

Great video! Simple with relaxing music and more complex than the TMM guide. You have a new subscriber ;-)

[@soulxcv]

The relaxing music is a meme but I'm really, really glad you like it!

[@Im_K4tana]

What guide dude didn't explain shit just said b1 good lion stance new and pain full ok bey bey guys

[@forbidd3n66]

great guide

[@genkisema]

Thanks for this video! ❤

[@Bullet-Tooth-Tony-]

It must be satisfying winning with this character, he does look fun

[@soulxcv]

VERY satisfying indeed. Having no launchers in neutral and forcing you to go for counter hits and reading the enemy is very fulfilling gameplay especially when things go your way!

[@joeblooda]

Good tutorial and editing! My only critic is that I would have liked to see more about his general gameplan and neutral, but nonetheless as I said quality content. Have a nice day.

[@soulxcv]

I am planning to expound on this next time, but I will need to study the meta more first so I can be as accurate as possible. Thank you for the feedback!

[@irvinmorales1409]

Steve has always had that insane check left hook.

[@SogaKing888]

Great video

[@cesarrivera286]

Tekken and Fromsoft? You, sir, are a gentleman and a scholar. Great vid and music

[@soulxcv]

Ahh I see you're a man of great taste as well

[@lossantoskleinanzeigen6448]

any way you can bring this stuff to a excel sheet? like bnb combos etc?

[@JonNewgate]

Thank you!

[@TheyNay]

What's the notation of the combo staying by PKB 2 CH at the end of the video? It looks like after df1 2:1b f3 1 there's a f22 but I can't connect it...

[@soulxcv]

If you mean the last one, it's duck in ws1 into f22 I made a quick guide on it you can watch here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/bmrUooJjitmHa9Esi=g7i7c4Q4ykg-ropl

[@TheRealPaco2049]

Great video. I'm not sure if I missed it, but Steve's uf2 in neutral is a great launcher as well. I consider it to be his true "hop kick" not his abysmal uf4 kick. Also I had no idea you could cancel lion heart from ub2 by holding back.

[@bboyfox18]

its hard understand this being beginner on tekken i will like a video with combos details , great video

[@vcqrrr]

i can do every part of these combos except for the dash 3 2 1 1, sometimes i can do it but i dont know what im doing to even hit it, or mainly i cant hit the 3 2 1 after the dash ( & sometimes when i do the ending 1 just misses) any tips for the timing?

[@soulxcv]

It's 3 1 2 then 2 bro 😁 Another thing you can do is deep dash. Start mashing forward when you tailspin the opponent and try to get in as close to their body as possible so the final 2 hits

[@jojoromos5304]

Hi I’m new to tekken when it comes to combos, can anyone explain to me what ~ means? Does that means pause for second that press the next button of a combo? Also when we see < green circle Does that mean we hold back and press triangle (or Y if you’re on Xbox)

[@soulxcv]

the ~ symbol means you need to quickly drum the input. So in my example, df 1,2~1 means you press df1, then press 2 and immediately press 1 quickly after. Hope this helps!

[@MKG176]

4:44 how do you cancel out of lion heart quickly enough to throw out the sonic fang before they can block?

[@soulxcv]

I went over it quickly in the video, when you do ub2 by itself it has an automatic transition, but when you do ub2 and press back immediately, Steve will not transition into LIH so you can guarantee a sonic fang since you have +14 in neutral. Hope this helps!

[@3ASY355]

any tips on how to pull off that dck cancel neutral 1 you sneak into your combos? Its hard for me to do, I think imma skip it for now and slowly implement it later as I get better and more comfortable.

[@jahmilly937]

You have to go into flk. After df12~1 hold b and then go into dck cancel ws1. The notation is df12~1b F3 db neutral 1

[@soulxcv]

If you've played T7 Steve, doing into duck has the same timing as going the DCKf2 screw in combos. What I do is the moment I input duck 1 I am already holding d/b and when I see Steve do the duck motion, I immediately do ws1. I gotta admit it's a really tight window and I probably won't do it in ranked matches for now. Maybe in quick matches and slowly get comfortable with it until the timing clicks to muscle memory

[@soulxcv]

@3ASY355 Here you go fam: kzbin.info/www/bejne/bmrUooJjitmHa9E

[@inamarapture1393]

man i have so much trouble finding out the timing for the duck cancel especially into ws 1 for combos and ws 12 for pressure any suggestions?

[@soulxcv]

If you played T7 Steve the timing is similar to using the DCKf2 screw option, the earlier you go into dck in the easier the ws1. I'll see if I can do a short vid on it!

[@soulxcv]

Here you go fam: kzbin.info/www/bejne/bmrUooJjitmHa9E

[@inamarapture1393]

Appreciate this to the fullest extend cant thank you enough@@soulxcv

[@Lil_Hondo]

What is the combo you do when landing the counter hit at 3:13?

[@soulxcv]

- Ext dck 1, df1 2~1b, dck ws1, f22 LIH 2, dash in, 312, LIH2 - It is the same combo as 15:30 just with a different starter. - Please see this video to help you land the ws1 if you're having trouble: kzbin.info/www/bejne/bmrUooJjitmHa9Esi=esDjaB6Oaz_8dc1q

[@shinn43]

Isn't Instant Flicker to WS1 faster than DF1 or does the flicker cancel makes it slower?

[@soulxcv]

If you have the execution for it yes. It tracks better and the threat of the ws12 mid follow-up and plus frames is 10x better than a df12 high follow-up that better players can easily duck.

[@tizianomerello6530]

In 15:31 after df1(2~1)b how can I hit f3df neutral 1?:)

[@soulxcv]

I gotchu fam kzbin.info/www/bejne/bmrUooJjitmHa9Esi=HfkvNzlm0v1ICfmU

[@hadinaji14]

Can u recommend some pressure with steve like 21 than peak boo etc any would help tanks!

[@soulxcv]

My entire gameplan in a nutshell is to check with jabs, df1 and 21, then use 21f to transition to PKB and bully them with PKB12 and PKB df11 and PKB d1. When they start respecting me I use wr2 and stomp. When they disrespect me I take their timing into consideration and b1 when I am lightly minus at say -1 to -3 or if I am lightly plus like +1 to +3. wr2 gives +5 on block and it gives a big stagger so opponents usually do not press there but if I notice that they do, I flowchart wr2 into b1.

[@The-Honored-One]

On the combo trials, I CAN NOT figure out the feint, any help for a poor sinner?

[@soulxcv]

If you are referring to the df 1,2~1 feint, 2 should be followed closely by 1. Try sliding your finger from the first button to the next in a fast and fluid motion. It should help. If it's not what you're referring to then send me a timestamp. Cheers!

[@The-Honored-One]

@@soulxcv You got it right. Thanks for the advice. I was stuck on the combo challenged, just tried your advice and finally got past that one. First fighting game and I don’t know if Steve was a good choice, but I’m learning slowly.

[@peacekeeperjfsr]

2:23 how do you do that move? ( f3 sparks)

[@soulxcv]

Hold down f3 until Steve does another small hump forward and says "huh!" That means you are in EXT DCK. Moves in this state have blue sparks

[@aazim8918]

i’m new to tekken how do you cancel steve’s attacks and how do you counter attack ? also i play on ps5 can you explain with those button terminology as the tekken ones are confusing

[@soulxcv]

- Buttons in Tekken are referred to by limbs and an associated number. Left punch is 1 (square), right punch is 2(triangle), left kick is 3 (X) and right kick is 4 (circle). Pressing a direction and corresponding inputs will lead to certain attacks. For example, going into peekaboo stance is forward 3+4. So you press forward, and X and O at the same time. - Steve is unique in a sense that some of his moves can go into stance. By going into stance and then quickly getting out of said stance, you can effectively "cancel out" an attack's recovery, making it safe. A good example would be B1 or back and square. B1 alone leaves you unsafe which means the opponent can punish you. What does that mean? If you press b1 alone and they block it, any attack of theirs that is 14 frames of startup or faster is guaranteed to hit you. So how do you make this move safe? By continuing to hold back after pressing B1, you can enter into flicker stance. And flicker stance automatically blocks highs and mids. Essentially, without going into the technicalities, when you do this, the opponent cannot attack you even if they block this. - A counter attack is when your move connects before your opponent's move connects when both of you throw out your attacks. When this happens, your attack property sometimes changes and it usually leads into a big reward for you. For example, B1 is only a little damage when you land it normally. But when you land it on counter hit, there is a large BOOM sound, the camera zooms in, and the opponent's body slumps to the floor, giving you a massive amount of time to pick up their body for a devastating combo. I hope this helps you friend!

[@aazim8918]

@@soulxcv thank you u are the goat

[@NadeemMuzaffar-yx4pw]

Good ❤❤❤

[@PainofRazeration]

I need help with performing ducking in (f+3 or 4, hold), can't do it

[@soulxcv]

What's your problem with it? Maybe I can help

[@PainofRazeration]

@@soulxcv Oh, I thought I had to press forward again, because that's what it says in the movelist, but I just held f+3 and it came out lol

[@VDViktor]

For ppl struggling with Steve's CH b1 combo and the ws1 part : dont get peer-pressured into thinking that its the only way to play. It only adds measly 3 dmg to the combo at a high risk of dropping it and losing out on 31 dmg, and you can see even top Steves drop these from time to time. Which means ONE dropped ws1 combo will cost you same amount of dmg you are potentially "losing" if you do 10 simplified combos instead. If you cant do the ws1 combo 10 times out of 10 with 0 effort - the risk is just not worth it, mathematically. Funnily enough it will also probably add some lifetime to your poor controllers xD Instead, do the same combo but dont hold back after df12~1. Simply do df12~1, skip the ws1 and continue the combo with f22....

[@soulxcv]

I agree, I only do it if I'm sure I can win the round or the game. For the execution requirements, it's not worth dropping the combo. Sure it adds wall carry and more damage, but I'd rather take my guaranteed damage

[@icetrey8662]

I haven't played Steve since Tekken 5. It's a rough transition but I'm enjoying myself and his new moves.

[@soulxcv]

I hope you enjoy him in T8, imo he's THE most fun he's ever been with the inclusion of the Ali Shuffle!

[@user-dz3ky4vl2h]

This is awesome but guys I use ps5 what's WS stand for? 3.41

[@soulxcv]

WS stands for "while standing" and is a generic state in which characters are going from a crouched state to a standing state. The few frames of animation of them standing back up is a specific stance and some moves are changed just for that specific stance. We call it "while standing moves"

[@TyrantPwner]

Any idea of more detailed T8 Steve guides out there? Assuming its still to early to expect such things lol

[@soulxcv]

I think it's a bit too early. Most of what I see are combo guides, and the most detailed one yet is That Blasted Salami's hours long video, but that's T7 and a few seasons too old. Everyone's still labbing at this point and Steve is too complex of a character to make a detailed breakdown of

[@SooFnSinister]

Any tips on how to land B1 ch into ex duck?

[@soulxcv]

When you B1, always be holding back so you're immediately in FLK on hit or on block. When you hear the loud boom or see the zoom in, you have your cue to release back and immediately duck in. Hold it down until Steve does a little small hump forward and shouts "HUH!". That means the next button is blue spark. Press 1 immediately then. If you do not hold back when you B1, you will recover in neutral so Steve will be slower to input the next move. AFAIK you cannot ext duck then.

[@SooFnSinister]

@@soulxcv Got it! The “huh timing” tip helped. Thank you family. 🫡

[@billyscenic5610]

Finally a Steve Guide that doesn't start off with "Just spam B1!" or "Steve doesn't have kicks! so strange!"

[@billyscenic5610]

Seriously thought great starter guide. I was starting to mix up my strings and get some juicy B1 counter hits. 9

[@matthewstaana7487]

what song?

[@soulxcv]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/poLGqKKAhJVkaaM

[@bigbadbusta3871]

These BnB combo's can be pretty tough compared to the T7 ones and the damage aint quite what it used to be lmao. its gonna take me a while to get these new ones consistent. R.I.P Flck 1, d1 screw attack. You will be missed

[@soulxcv]

Flk 1 d1 will be sorely missed, that move got me so much wins in T7 🫡

[@Splashfighter100]

Cool video. Consider moving the text higher. The video controls overlap when pausing to read any text long then 3 lines.

[@soulxcv]

Duly noted on this!

[@cursedcrow1033]

Can you cancel Lionheart into neutral ?

[@soulxcv]

You can cancel that into LWV, RWV, SWY, DCK

[@cursedcrow1033]

@@soulxcv Yeah i discovered that . What your thoughts so far on him ? He is fun asf however compared to the rest of the cast i think he needs minor buffs . Dunno would be cool if he would give him the Clinch also without heat

[@soulxcv]

I initially thought he was really absurdly broken but upon seeing the current state of the rest of the cast, I think he may need just a little boost in his neutral. Df2 not launching in any circumstance is a big flaw because to add to it not tracking, other characters that aren't even counter hit focused have a safe long range mid counter hit launcher. Why not the counter punching paragon? It used to be broken because it was safe homing. Now it's only safe. I also think that stomp into auto LH should give better frames or just give us the ability to guard. Having a forced mixup stance that gets Steve to still be hit back is weird for me. I've lost a lot of comebacks because I was hit out of the forced stance transition. That said I think he is still really good. Maybe top 15 for sure!

[@florinalinmarginean1135]

Does Flicker still automatically block highs and mids though? I tested it in training mode and versus mode, but it doesn't anymore. Hopefully it's just a bug, or this character is doomed

[@soulxcv]

From what I experienced it's still the same.

[@Hermelin69]

The only time I have this is when I hit b+1 and go into flicker but for some reason 10fs hit me

[@CLFLY]

FLK 1D1 doesn't CH launch

[@TheCommanderjoe]

Right what the heck is ducking in for anymore its so weird

[@lyomon9981]

I’m usually good against fox with Leroy

[@RektemRectums]

am Starve Farx!. one two one two one then two!.

[@kitetsu77]

excellent guide. Hopefully, I dont run against your steve one day.

[@soulxcv]

Don't worry fam, I'm not that good 🤣

[@kitetsu77]

@@soulxcv and a modest too 😁

[@akarapongboonrat9338]

I really like Steve, this character is like for hardkworking players😂 Not much of a launcher, more like counter fisting everything 😂 I came from Jin since Tekken 3, but in Tekken 8 ma boi is a whole new character... D Jin is more Jin than Jin in Tekken 8 lol😂

[@soulxcv]

So true! Steve is often used by people who want to do big brain plays, it's just too fun! 😁 Totally agree with Jin too! DJin is much closer to legacy Jin than T8 Jin is

[@sklunts]

2:00

[@Shadowtron1221]

Bro I have got to know what this song is so I can sleep to it...

[@soulxcv]

I was memeing when I put this song on 🤣 But I'm glad you enjoyed it! These are just random unlicensed lofi guitar songs I got off KZbin

[@Shadowtron1221]

Thats not a song nameeeeeeeeee~@@soulxcv

[@soulxcv]

A little late but here they are: kzbin.info/www/bejne/poLGqKKAhJVkaaM kzbin.info/www/bejne/rmGWo2d-o52nqM0

[@patmcluvn5859]

Wish there was audio to listen …. Stopping every 5 secs to read is painful

[@TheTriangle444]

Steve B tier :(

[@soulxcv]

I think he's top 15 maaaaaybe top 10 if Knee or Heera is using him

[@nightwing5288]

As a beginner i dont understand what any of this means this game is FRYING MY BRAIN

[@soulxcv]

Welcome to fighting games my man! Just take it slow and you'll be stomping the ranks one day I recommend you watch PhiDX's Tekken 8 Beginner Guide, and watch a Tekken notation tutorial and you're all set.

[@nightwing5288]

@@soulxcv thank you so much man - feels like alot of info is hidden behind a wall haha

[@nightwing5288]

Hey man wanna ask, for the combo at 15:12, i can do the combo but for the last "2" hit im always too much on the opponents right side and it just goes over him, do you know why?@@soulxcv

[@soulxcv]

@@nightwing5288 it may be because the distance of your juggled opponent is too far. I can think of 2 things: - you didn't dash in far enough. With the new tailspin system you really have a lot of time to dash in deep. Try to start running the moment you tailspin them. Buffer it by mashing forward. - another thing is that maybe you are left swaying too long. You can drum 312 really fast and you will still get the move to come out

[@nightwing5288]

hey man! thanks dude, i managed to get it down and have managed to nail it in some online ranked fights, appreciate it!@@soulxcv

[@ruelalmodovar2483]

This is not a quick guide I'm always rewinding to absorb new Steve, I stand with my word this is not a quick guide I can call it a great start guide.

[@Daemon1995_]

its a great quick guide

[@soulxcv]

I tried to make it as quick as I can, eliminating stuff like Albatross, LWV, RWV, SWY and much less notable but still useful moves; but Steve is just too complex of a character to condense it even further 😄 And thank you for the compliment!

[@blastersekla]

wtf bro its my first fighting game and for me this guide feels like chinese lol

[@soulxcv]

Bro I'm partly Chinese and I feel you 💀 My general advice is to take everything really slow and at your own pace. Celebrate your small wins and you'll breeze through the ranks EZ

[@tristan5951]

4:16 wtf is that

[@soulxcv]

What do u mean?

[@angelopahery716]

It would be much more easier to listen than read....🤞

[@soulxcv]

I did a rough draft of it once before I made the final version of this and between juggling reading the outlines, finding the right words at the right moment, fiddling between the menus to get exactly what I want and doing the correct thing at the first try, I concluded it was REALLY hard and it isn't probably for me. Rewatching a small segment, there was tons of dead air and I figured the audience would just click off the vid. What TMM and Fergus does is actually quite hard. Having a ready script and reading off it with good editing like That Blasted Salami would be the next logical step for me. I will definitely look into doing it in the future!

[@skyboundzoo]

@@soulxcvI actually prefer the words and pictures - visually follow better. Thanks for your your effort :)

[@OD_Shady]

tf is WS

[@soulxcv]

While Standing, refer to this by PhiDX kzbin.info/www/bejne/emabfaGZo7uVjq8

[@doorbob3445]

Did they nerf flk 1,d1? The ch still launches but they fall flat and I can't get a pickup

[@soulxcv]

Yes I noticed that as well, the properties of the move got nerfed in this version :(

[@doorbob3445]

@@soulxcv damn, you could delay it for a frametrap as well that sucks, atleast it still gives a wallsplat so the threat isn't completely gone. Why did they remove it tho, other chars have fast natural launchers or good low strings and steve is all about ch man.

[@llMavenll]

Does WS mean while rising?

[@llMavenll]

And how do you go into heat without attacking

[@soulxcv]

WS means "while rising" in the context of the game. However the community dubbed it "while standing" so it wouldn't be confused with WR which the community dubbed "while running". As for going into heat without attacking, when you activate heat burst with 2+3 and Steve is in the animation of showing his fist, double tap back and he should cancel his attack. Hope this helps!

[@llMavenll]

@@soulxcv it does, thank you very much just tried it now