'Tell Me The Truth': Lori Vallow Daybell's Sister Testifies in 'Doomsday Cult' Mom's Trial

[@mondoenterprises6710]

Lori just loves how she's the one in control and her sister is freaking out. Yet her sister is the one who is mentally healthy, logical, rational, and human.

[@minnietrout814]

And Summer isn’t on trial for murder.

[@kyrah5683]

the playbook of a sociopathic narcissist is get you feeling crazy whilst they sit back and watch in calm

[@WendiRau]

Lori is horrible plain and simple

[@WendiRau]

She says‘’I love you so much” it’s fake and robotic,no feeling , cheap words

[@maneckineckbeard1749]

Yeah, it genuinely gave me chills hearing how totally inhuman Lori sounds! At times, she sounds to me like some kind of reptilian creature that's vaguely interested in the human emotion being expressed by her sister, and at other times she sounds downright smug...like she's actually enjoying how utterly cool and calm she is in the face of how unimaginably distraught and emotionally out of control Summer is. Lastly, there are times where she actually sounds annoyed at how nobody's thinking of what SHE'S been through, and how hard it's been for HER- after all, she waited MONTHS to get married after her kids were murdered, and doesn't SHE deserve to be happy and not be alone!? Overall, it's just utterly mind-blowing to hear just how totally selfish, cold and callous she is during this call. IMHO, it's even worse than the call with Colby, which was heartbreaking enough! It's scary to hear how none of her behaviors are even close to normal, compassionate, empathetic human reactions...especially considering she's talking to a sister she's supposedly close to!!

[@pillettadoinswartsh4974]

Lori is much more concerned with how she is portrayed on TV, than what happened to her own children.

[@DocProcRealm]

She is a goddess duh¡🦇💩🍌🍌

[@annab8312]

Classic narcassism.

[@MachelleBelle44]

Agreed!!!! She has loved all this attention! And she is the one who sought Chad daybell out!! She is the controller and apparently has always had the family fooled by her fake personality ! All her kindness most likely was for praise and for attention.

[@rebeccababcock9020]

Heartbreaking 😢

[@Kiyonce.Kartier]

This call is heartbreaking to listen to. Summer loved her niece and nephew is beyond devastated. Meanwhile, Lori is so cold and emotionless. I cannot imagine dealing with Lori on a daily basis. She’s a cold piece of work and I hope for the absolute worst for her.

[@mattphat23]

amen! that b!tch truly has no soul.

[@kristinm86]

I agree 💯

[@Tom_Van_Zandt]

She's a gall-dang goddess. She ain't got time for no dang human emotions.

[@zeebro7688]

I haven't followed the whole thing but does anyone think that she was feigning her beliefs? It's almost like it allowed the psychopath in her to justify her acts. Married five times is one bloody big flag to me about what her personality is like too.

[@DocProcRealm]

@@zeebro7688 her whole family is on one¡🦇💩🤪

[@Jinxpowza]

Summer is an absolute badass, she confronts Lori with her heart on FIRE. Through the tears and pain she was rational.

[@kellycismoski5098]

Summer's my hero she should have given her the kids and they would have been cared for

[@conniemorgan8402]

Everyone that Chad and Lori came into contact with were doomed.. they’re like poison..

[@shannonricci2785]

Yup

[@marycatledge5951]

They are poison their motive was money and to be free I'm sure there are more deaths they are responsible for

[@sashachitownvillegas6850]

i think so too

[@tishwitch]

Lori has 2 dead husbands... I think she was poison from birth.

[@ChristopherMichael180]

There are so many other people lucky to be alive. They were definitely going to murder Adam Cox and Melanie Gibb if they had not been apprehended. Probably would have finished off Brandon too.

[@sweetpeas8206]

This is a perfect example of how NOT to interact with a narcissist. Lori is calm and manipulative -“it’s your day”; “no one knows what I’ve been through”; “no one sees me cry”…..yadda, yadda. Narcs like Lori love it when us normal people, like her sister, have emotional meltdowns because we have consciences.

[@asheburypress882]

It is cathartic for her to say her piece. She deserves the emotional release, even though she knows everything just bounces off her sister. She’s also speaking to the jury right now. She is shining a light on Lori’s stonewalling, deep religious righteousness and self importance at the expense of lives. There’s no good way to interact with a narcissist. Sometimes you gotta just do what’s good for you, emotionally. Maybe she just needs to speak her truth, so she can move on with a clean conscience.

[@MagicStove]

BINGO

[@r3leggeddog]

Lori loves herself so much. Peoples emotional anger towards her in her view is only because...if they just knew more about the Lori that she is as a person. They would be for her not against her and in disbelief.

[@monklingtoneverjet2536]

@@asheburypress882 I agree, the feelings need to come out whether the person is narcissist or not. to realise the lack of empathy- experience it and then say OK enough. its necessary to see how crazy a narc can make you because you won't believe it till you are driven to that state of craziness- the gaslighting, the cruelty, the sadism- it's appalling and then the dawning realisation....they are toxic beyond hope

[@elizabethgrace460]

I listened to that phone call yesterday and thought the same exact thing.

[@xkiaradanielle]

Wow the pain in her voice just reaps through … I feel so bad for her. Losing her niece, nephew, sister and most of her self peace. I hope she can heal without Lori 😞

[@erint527]

I honestly feel so sorry for her siblings, who loved her and cared for her so deeply just for Lori to put them through this horrific tragedy. The pain in her sister’s voice just makes me cry. Her sister defended her through everything. I’m glad her sister at least sees her for who she really is. Rip JJ and Tylee. I hope their family heals and finds peace one day ❤

[@bernice4599]

It sure is heartbreaking 💔 my gawd😢 I just can’t imagine being such an evil monster!! She deserves to spend the rest of her life behind bars!! 😡🤬

[@DocProcRealm]

They fed into her crap her whole life. The whole family is on one¡🦇💩🤪

[@BMarie774]

“You went to Hawaii dancing on the beach while your children were in the ground”. I really can’t fathom what this family feels. I feel true rage, sickness, and sadness. I got physically nauseous the day the kids were found. I’d never gotten physically nauseous over so,etching like that before. I can’t fathom what they went through and it haunts me. So I truly cannot imagine what this family is experiencing.

[@kellycismoski5098]

Id wanna punch her in the face and I would have told her that too

[@kate2create738]

You can tell this is the testimony of a woman who lost her niece, nephew, and her sister. While she was crying, Lori was too calm in the conversation. Just tragic for any family to go through this.

[@MM-ej2wn]

She lost her niece, nephew, brother-in-law, brother and sister to all of this craziness. It’s unbearable to even imagine.

[@MagicStove]

Good for you, Summer. I remember years ago Summer defending Lori. That’s a thing of the past. I’m glad she confronted her. LORI DESERVES TO EAT DIRT. GUILTY. PUT HER IN THE PET CEMETERY.

[@danachavez1486]

This is the most heartbreaking call I have ever heard in my life.

[@augutizauberzeh8750]

All I am hearing from Lori is I,me and myself. She is totally self-absorbed.

[@JERSEYTOMATO]

Selfish

[@maddiemaccheese8170]

Hearing this call yesterday was hard enough but hearing it now after finding out JJ's cause of death, it's somehow even more sickening. Lori is stone cold, it's "all about her" when her eight year old baby boy was asphyxiated in a garbage bag, bound in duck tape, and suffocated to death all while fighting his way out as best his little body could. HOW DARE SHE MAKE THIS ABOUT HER???? Lori is *MONSTEROUS* and this is *DESPICABLE.* At least Summer genuinely cared for the kids the way their own mother should have. Lori is pure evil. Edit: Following along with Nate Eaton's live tweets, they're discussing Tylee's remains. Dear Lord. That's all I can say.

[@franceshaypenny8481]

My guess is Lori will act like Alex and\or Chad did these murders without her knowledge. But then what about Charles and Tammy then. She told Charles that she would murder him with her powers.

[@maddiemaccheese8170]

@@franceshaypenny8481 Exactly, yeah I agree. Although it's pretty damning that in the call she says she got married "months later" when she actually got married 2 months and a few days after Tylee's murder. That's the bare minimum to qualify as "months". So she'll probably try it but it would be insane if it actually worked, she's already proven she knew the whole time.

[@DR-vb9vx]

Lori just had a couple of abortions...her body her choice...what's the big deal🤷‍♂️💯

[@kellycismoski5098]

I feel the same honey and Im waiting for jailhouse justice for baby killers, that will wake her up and make her distressed like those poor babies were at her hand

[@Lowctrygrl]

Me too Dear...I have no idea why I keep listening. My heart is in sheds for all pain caused to everyone who trusted Lori and was deceived by her evil. Those poor poor children.

[@tuppyT]

"you were dancing on the beach while your kids were in the ground" 😭

[@oxyjenn8089]

God this is so heartbreaking. Can we just send her and Leticia Stauch off to a bare island to rot in the hot sun. No food, no water, no shelter. Just each other and their own misery.

[@cjwestover4527]

So sorry summer, you were screaming at Lori the same stuff I have been thinking for years. If there is peace for you I hope you find it. This whole thing is so tragic.

[@ZIG.E]

Loosing trust in anybody let alone your own sister is mind blowing!

[@birdiedog5]

I have 5 sisters, one in particular has been an absolute monster to me. She is self righteous and resents me because she used to have to babysit me. She's 20 years older. She's done so much over the top stuff over the course of my life. I do understand not trusting a sister.

[@Maiasatara]

My mother is a Narc. This whole - “what ever could you MEAN?” attitude that Lori has is classic. How could anyone ever think x, y, z of me? You can’t believe what you see. You think pictures tell the truth then you’re CRAZY. You don’t understand how I might just have wanted time alone? (To explain a happy Hawaiian wedding while her kids are burned and buried for being zombies.) Right. I hope she’s up for the death penalty.

[@jeanclare7011]

Malasatara, I believe the death penalty has been taken off the table! 😭😭

[@BethStoss-zt4dm]

My ex sister-in-law is a malignant narcissist, and I never saw evil until I met her and she’s the mother of my two small nephews, and I am very afraid!

[@missrockets777]

It STINKS to me that they refer to lori as “mrs vallow daybell”. When the real Mrs Daybell was murdered.

[@racheldesha]

Pretty sure if the real Mrs. Daybell is aware of any of this happening now hates the idea of ever having been a ‘Daybell’.

[@sophiophile]

Pretty sure that Tammy wouldn't want to be referred to as a Daybell after being murdered by one.

[@marelinem541]

@@sophiophile But she was a mormon, and married in the temple .... so she will 'belong to her murderer for all time and eternity.' Honest to God, as a good little mormon, that is what Tammy Daybell believed.

[@chica5944]

Narcissists expect you to believe them blindly - regardless of whether or not what they are saying is making sense

[@LCx829]

She admitted she knew the kids were dead when she said they got married “months” after they were dead.

[@SocratesINl]

This!

[@kellycismoski5098]

That gave me goose bumps when she said that "it was months later" WTF! All of us didnt know that Lori, only the people who were responsible knew they were

[@Trina-k8s]

She helped plan it....

[@shelbylee242]

14:10 Did you guys here that? "How was I supposed to go on with life. You think I wanted to be alone?" That's a inadvertent admission that she knew the kids had died already.

[@merdelune9]

She even said she got married “months later.” Months later after the children had died, and before they were found.

[@ShannonFord1977]

There’s always small clues in her statements. I picked up on that right away.

[@capybaralvr]

The audacity of her telling summer to ask the lord… this evil woman needs to be thrown in jail forever

[@Lady.Luck.]

I have! And Guess what!?!? -- I loved that response

[@rosealaska6595]

How about DP NOTHING less

[@capybaralvr]

@@Lady.Luck. it was sad and great at the same time to finally hear someone dish exactly what she deserved to her. you were dancing in hawaii!!!!!!

[@bearandrabbit6826]

She needs to be thrown in a dumpster fire. That would actually be more appropriate for Lori.

[@rosealaska6595]

@Leena Wexler Evil Lori has NO right to breath

[@QuartzMatrixed]

First time I heard this, I had lori as the woman crying and the sister as the one not crying. Only to realize as it went on that I was completely wrong and lori was the cold sounding person with no emotion while the aunt is in agony. I have 2 little girls and I lose sleep every night worrying about them and what would happen if I was gone. I'm sure many of you are the same. But even idea of just one day without being able to see them, makes me feel as if someone is standing on my chest. I almost have to stop myself from wanting bad things to happen to her.

[@Maiasatara]

You can’t expect to attribute your normal, healthy emotions and attachments to a person like Lori. What they do makes ZERO sense to a healthy, functioning adult. They will always hurt and disappoint others and then skip happily away after doing it.

[@conniemorgan8402]

Bad things are happening that she must hate.. she is looking old and worn out.. she is becoming as ugly on the outside as she is on the inside..not goddess material anymore.. and she’s lost what family that she didn’t have murdered.. to have so many people to love you. And throw it all away is disgusting..

[@UlieWalksWithTheKing]

My daughters are grown and I still pray for their safety. Now I have grandchildren and I pray for their safety just as fervently for their safety and protection. The devil is after our children and Lori, Chad and Alex are/were his faithful servants. Lori played the "I'm so holy, I love Jesus" card her entire life. But she never knew Him. She used religion for position, attention and power. She used her looks for power as well. It's sad how some men/people can't see past their "storm" (🤮) and fall for looks, never realizing the serpents they invite into their lives. Some of the outwardly most beautiful people are rotten and dead on the inside.

[@suehancey8355]

The lack of emotion from Lori is very telling I believe. She certainly displays a psychopathic personality, imo. Absolutely horrific😢 Sadly what her family doesn't seem at this point to realize, is she doesn't love them. She didn't love her children, she simply has no feelings for anyone. She's a psychopath.

[@candicewitzkoske3155]

I say she’s a sociopath narcissist

[@treeyellow4627]

100%

[@josiechaney9010]

Summer seems to be starting to realize all that. I’m startled and proud of her. Very grateful for her brave, dogged journey to the very unpleasant truth. She also outright CALLED Lori on her BS that successfully rattled her in a way that I’ve only seen happen at the ID cops’ 2nd knock at her door. Through her deep feelings of grief and betrayal, the spoke lucid, brutal truths. Thank you Summer. 💗🔥☘️🌸

[@karrie8349]

If my sister did this…. I would DISOWN HER IMMEDIATELY.😡🤬

[@ninacal]

Duh

[@Jack_Hyde]

Even though it must've been very hard for Summer to go on that stand let alone make that prison call to Lori, I have so much respect for her. She stood up to that soulless monster of a sister and said exactly what everyone else is thinking. I do hope that her, Adam, Kelsee, Colby and their families find peace.

[@Pinkricaan]

I believe by now her sister knows why she didn't give the kids to anybody...those checks

[@marelinem541]

If she had let the kids go live with someone else, their new caregivers would have gotten the $48,000+ a year meant for the kids, so it was better to kill them and keep the money. Also Lori Vallow had control of (whatever was left of) the $350,000 Tylee's father (Joe Ryan) had left to Tylee in 2018. And Tylee could bring charges IF her mom had stolen Tylee's $350,000.

[@Pinkricaan]

@@marelinem541 both of my children were born 3 mths early and both receive SSD. When I stayed home with them it sure was a huge help. I just h@te people who take in kids for the money, it happens alot with transitional foster care here in NY

[@marystacey4796]

It is heartbreaking to hear the pain in her sisters voice.

[@kellycismoski5098]

She was hyperventilating at one point I wanted to reach out and hug her

[@michah321]

It's absolutely devastating to hear. Summer is a genuine person feeling the way most people would feel. Lori is the zombie, actually

[@Aussietari]

It's still the "Lori Show."‼️ It's All about Poor Lori.😡 Lori's total Lack of Empathy or any Feelings at All, to how Distraught her Sister Summer was, is Truly Chilling.

[@missrockets777]

She is loving the attention isnt she

[@seriouslyscrapping]

shes mentally ill and brainwashed

[@bearandrabbit6826]

The way she says " I love you" to everyone whom confronted her. She does not know how to love anyone other than herself...PERIOD!!!

[@zoebowler5664]

I remember watching a Tv interview of her mum and sister. They were adamant she would never hurt her kids… they were so wrong

[@bleu8134]

Her sister seems like the only one I have seen who had normal emotions about this.

[@mountainmermaid8]

This is so heartbreaking. And Lori's coldness and gaslighting is just incredible.

[@SofiUk0319]

Thank God for you Summer, you sound like the 99% sane rest of us!! Thank God for you ❤

[@MagicStove]

How did Tylee’s father die? A heart attack in the middle of a custody battle? Right. No one’s safe around Lori.

[@shalinitahiliani5325]

They don't know how he died. He was found something like a month llater, decomposing. And get this, Lori was the one to find him 🙄 More like she needed him declared dead so she could claim the insurance policy. Yea its suspicious.

[@marelinem541]

Lori Vallow also had control of (whatever was left of) the $350,000 Tylee's father (Joe Ryan) had left to Tylee in 2018 when Joe Ryan died. P.S. Lori was notified of Joe Ryan's death ... BUT did not tell anyone else in his family. Joe's family didn't find out until weeks later when the morgue was looking for someone to pick up his body -- that time lapse may have contributed to the decision to have him cremated, which, in turn, led to there being no body to exhume now that his death has become 'suspicious.'

[@nikkiej.5875]

I don’t believe his death was a coincidence. I think her brother killed him too.

[@dargful]

The day people can become fully educated and understand and how to deal with and remove power from actual sociopaths and psychopaths will be the day we have peace on earth.

[@trehugr4life]

🎯

[@Ella.L.]

So true

[@mariastefanie5835]

A better goal is for parents to stop creating psychopaths and sociopaths . The day people take accountability for their stuff and get help before having kids , that’s really when we’ll have peace

[@Ella.L.]

@@mariastefanie5835 I agree with you for the most part, but some people are just born that way.

[@Miss.831]

Isn’t it crazy how Summer is completely broken over her niece and nephew and Lori is there like there isn’t a care in the world over her OWN children being dead, buried in the backyard of Chad’s property.

[@whims6278]

This absolutely broke my heart.

[@Allison-p2c]

This is heartbreaking. Her sister and mother were her biggest cheerleaders, believing there was no way she would harm her children. Its incomprehensible how they'd feel, finding out their niece and nephew were brutally murdered by a person they trusted completely. I'm glad idaho has the death penalty. Hopefully this monster receives it.

[@carenburmeister5002]

The death penalty is not an option if Lori is convicted due to a legal issue resolved prior to the trial.

[@Allison-p2c]

@@carenburmeister5002 thank you.

[@Tsumami__]

Janice and Summer not only backed her but seemingly lied for her saying Janice had spoken to JJ on a certain date, but it was after he was already deceased. They didn’t seem to care very much until now. And that family is WARPED.

[@Lady.Luck.]

Was so glad to hear someone show true anger. Bravo

[@kimsullivan5576]

It's a very heartbreaking shame that Lori did not love her children.

[@JERSEYTOMATO]

Selfish

[@misty3043]

Make sure say premie babies common heart surgery tubes blood transfusions u so sure I would happened if baby was full term. Idk but I know more revenge any case of the same my revenge is force you like forced me

[@annhenry3135]

I think Lori can only love herself. It would not have been long before she disposed of Chad as well.

[@kimsullivan5576]

@@annhenry3135 I agree.

[@misty3043]

@@annhenry3135 yeah love is vengeance that's what I see

[@mondoenterprises6710]

Lori is too busy living her best life for little children or ex wives or ex husbands to get in the way.

[@josiechaney9010]

2 things: The way Lori parlays past shared confidences, tries to make her interlocutor feel important, knowledgeable, *uniquely* intimate with the True Lori … the holy and righteous Lori… with the phrase “*YOU KNOW* me, _______ … … …” is EXACTLY how she said it to Melani Gibb. It’s a confidence enhancer, an admonishment, and a threat all in one. Like she just presses “play,” and that phrase issues forth to reframe and realign whoever is falling out of line. 2nd thing: when they’re talking about Lori dancing on the beach, I always reflexively get the image of them dancing on the “graves.”

[@HellaQuinn]

You’re exactly right

[@Threedots123]

I’m so curious to know what her “reason” is. She says that no one knows anything but what they hear on TV… I’m not saying that there’s any possible reason you can excuse ending the lives of children. Because there isn’t.

[@Natural....]

Those children felt alone when they were unalived 😢 What the children went through 😢💔

[@KrustyKlown]

Social psychologist Erich Fromm, who first coined the term Malignant Narcissist (i.e. Lori), called these people "the quintessence of evil."

[@kimpace4001]

It's heartbreaking to listen to this. I can't even imagine the pain and disappointment like this. It's good for her to get all this off her chest. It's been bottled up for too long. Prayers to all the victims, there are so many. 🙏 🙏🙏🙏🙏

[@megmaran5194]

“Killing children is NOT okay.” - Lori says nothing “They were innocent!” - Lori says nothing “And to throw them away like trash in the ground!” - Lori: “You think I did THAT?” 🤦🏼‍♀️ 🤦🏼‍♀️ 🤦🏼‍♀️

[@franavis7887]

carbon copy of Casey Anthony! How is your family hysterical and you (Lori) are completely calm?? Just like Casey Anthony and her family. Guilty as sin!

[@heezypeasy8611]

The pain in her voice is heartbreaking 💔 Lori is so vile and evil that it makes me sick to my stomach. All of the ppl she and Chad have hurt deserve some kind of justice. I'm not a religious person, but I do pray that she spends the rest of her life behind bars. She doesn't deserve anything good in her life ever again.

[@mondoenterprises6710]

Lori makes it all about herself. Like everything else.

[@Frenchblue8]

Unbelievable. Isn't she? Malignant narcissist, and complete sociopath. Had her entire family snowed for. 47 years. She's just like somebody else we all know, III, Me me me,, mine mine mine, boohoo, I'm such a victim, it's a witch Hunt, the big bad media (reporting demonstrable, undeniable,: provable, empirical. *FACTS*

[@mondoenterprises6710]

@@Frenchblue8 It's why these people are so dangerous. Everybody is a tool to them.

[@tishwitch]

Her defense can keep playing the "naive victim of a cult" card, but that doesn't make her any less GUILTY. And if she managed to leave an apparent "abusive marriage", you won't convince me that she's naive or weak. She's always looking for the next opportunity... And Chad clearly didn't want small kids. She's awful and she's guilty.

[@TheFarquie]

I am so grateful that we only have the audio tbh, this is gut wrenching to listen to and if it was streamed as video I believe it would be even harder to watch.

[@sherryelebeauty]

I can't imagine knowing my sister and brother were capable of such horrible acts of betrayal and murder. My heart breaks for these family members.

[@kristinaarp9144]

This call was gut wrenching. I couldn’t imagine my nieces and nephews being ripped away from me like this. I hope that monster rots for all eternity.

[@mondoenterprises6710]

Lori and Chad. Everyone is a zombie. Who can we drain of money or kill for money next so we can live our best life?

[@mraereed]

Seems the worst zombies had the fattest life insurance policies! 🤦🏼‍♀️

[@jaded6782]

Her sister is in agony on the phone with her and her answer is how do you think I feel? Pure narsist!!!

[@danaross9785]

Lori is a cold blooded psychopath, I cannot imagine what the family is going through. She is so calm and cool, I guess that has worked for her in the past.

[@warmccl]

I am shaking listening to this call...this is.. .beyond words..

[@Snazzdog]

This just shows Lori didn't give two craps about her kids.

[@user-ed2vc4ge3v]

When she knows her sister murdered her children... "because I love you with all my heart-tell me the truth!"

[@scrappedlives]

That sister should be glad she is still alive. Because if Lori decided a zombie had taken over your body, she would kill you. And any person standing in her way was suddenly posessed by zombies.

[@c.s.7266]

You can feel the anguish and hurt in her voice and it's devastating

[@pearlhartney9]

Had not heard before about the brothers brain injury and consequent "teenage decision making". So, he would be ripe for being manipulated by her and Chad.

[@madisong5276]

Her poor sister I can’t imagine the grief

[@bellesblues]

Just listening to what that woman gas done to her family makes me feel sick! Her poor sister. The family members that woman did not kill are completely tormented! Evil.

[@jenuine182]

Utterly heartbreaking. I actually cried. I haven't heard this before.

[@CandiStar]

Omg my heart hurts & breaks so much after hearing that phone call.

[@chica5944]

I'm listening to this evil woman's sister sobbing and pleading and it is breaking my heart😪

[@suwaidajalal]

It's telling that in none of these calls with her family does she say, "oh my god, I was so deceived by Chad, I trusted him but my kids' bodies appear in his backyard, he said they would be safe but he killed them."

[@racheldesha]

Because Chad is the only one who is telling her how special she is. That’s all she cares to hear. If you aren’t exalting Lori then you are of no need to her.

[@janetcampbell5678]

Sooo, so sad!! Poor Summer.😢

[@snippetsordinarylife]

I think all three were high-functioning psychopaths. When their paths intersected, they brought out the psychopathy in each other and no one in their path had a chance. How can three adults plan the death of two children and others, execute it and carry on as if nothing happened? I think Alex did himself in, but was very much prompted by Chad during one of his blessings. Maybe he had a slight conscience, but I doubt it. He probably just saw the writing on the wall for his future.

[@marelinem541]

Summer's testimony after the jail recorded phone call brings to light that Alex (her brother) was in a car accident when he was 16 and had brain damage and hadn't matured beyond 16. It would have been a piece of cake for Lori to get him to 'save' her from all these 'abusive' men and 'zombies.' Maybe only two of them were psychopaths/sociopaths ... ??? Maybe one of them was an unwitting dupe.

[@---wq9xp]

"We would've taken them. We would've taken care of them." Tyler and JJ were LOVED. She could've just left.

[@marelinem541]

But if Lori had let them live with someone else, Lori could no longer collect the kids $4,000+ a month from the kids social security checks. And Lori had control of $350,000 of Tylee's that Tylee got after the death of her father in 2018.

[@hope199]

Chilling, absolutely Chilling.

[@AshleyLebedev]

This is one of the most impactful things of trial so far, and there are many. But her phone calls to others shows how she manipulates and how she is a case study in psychopathy / sociopathy. She has no remorse and only mirrors sister saying in actuality it happened to HER don’t you see? SHEs the victim just as she followed same script with her son. Her sister pushes and holds her to the fire more though, asking her the exact right questions to really rub her face in it. This will hugely impact the jury as will the other calls and I for one and very happy with the level of evidence they have found. They will put her away for life. I am hugely against death penalty (usually) but I’m astounded they’ve taken it off table in this case. For both of them. This woman essentially convinced herself she was a goddess and killed her kids and partied through and after it to be famous and get on with her life, doing anything needed to impress an insecure married sci fi writer who was “popular” I’m glad her sister and son and friend all in separate calls tell her she’s been completely deceived and lied to and fell for evil hook line and sinker. I am not religious but I hope something they said made her go OMG they are right. And that ultimately she feels she was deceived now vs a “messiah” with 21 lives.

[@Lady.Luck.]

Lori sounded exactly like Casey Anthony

[@Cmss2807]

So sad how one individual could destroy so many lives along with her evil counterpart CD…monsters!!!!

[@UlieWalksWithTheKing]

@mango8918, I thought the same. It even makes me a little sad for Alex. If he had a brain injury that caused him cognitive delays or issues, then he was a victim of his sister's manipulation and control. I have a 54 yo brother who also suffers developmental delay. He is highly suggestable and would do anything you ask him just to be part of the group and feel loved. If Alex was similar, he would be easily manipulated. His tearful sobbing after Chad's "blessing " could attest to this.

[@mango8918]

This was very interesting to me in that it was the first time that I heard that Alex would emotionally act like a 16-year-old in his decision-making. I can see how both the prosecution and defense could use this in this case against Lori.

[@delshammaa]

I don’t understand how this horrible person will not be getting the death sentence

[@marelinem541]

Yeah ... you're right. But some paperwork was bungled in the beginning, and it was between a trial with no possible death penalty or just let her go without a trial. I think they made the right decision, and I hope life in prison is worse for her than death. I still hope that Chad Daybell gets the death penalty.

[@delshammaa]

@@marelinem541 Thanks for explaining. I still think she deserves the death penalty, regardless of what paperwork issues they had. Especially after today they proved that her hair was on her poor son's duct tape... awful! She's just a terrible person, and yes I do second what you said, hope her life in prison is as terrifying as how she made her children feel right before they were murdered!

[@snmczzi]

Lori gave her poor desperate sister no emotion at all absolutely horrible

[@carolc6795]

Her pain is palpable. That poor family left with holes in their hearts and lives.

[@nicw3251]

Her family is still in denial about what a psychopath she is. Her family is incredibly dysfunctional

[@Breezbug]

I don’t see any point in the questions the defense attorney asks Summer. 🤷🏼‍♀️

[@marelinem541]

I think he's trying to make out that Lori was 'normal' before she met Chad, so everything that she did is Chad's fault.

[@TheDevilsQueen]

As a born shiflett not married into the family If my sister ever had my niece and nephew missing and killed from the first lie I would be vary much either getting real answers or disowning her from my perseption

[@snmczzi]

That call alone is a victim statement

[@mondoenterprises6710]

Lori is so superior to everyone.

[@kellycismoski5098]

"I took care of them their whole life" what like they were grown and ready to leave home or what Lori? Cmon

[@jaiwhy5212]

I’m glad she was told what she needed to hear. Even tho she was emotionless she still heard the wrath of her sister.

[@dispatchdiva99]

Something I've noticed about Lori in the recorded conversations that I've heard is that she always says "I love you so much" when someone is conveying to her that she has done something to upset them.

[@zwleathers]

I'm curious to know what the reasons were that they found her incompetent to stand trial the last couple times. the only thing i can think of that happened to her is that she met this guy and his teachings and just totally was enamored with him, believing everything he said 100% with no doubt. i dont know who physically killed those 2 kids but you can gather who it probably was, Even if she never touched them she still couldve stopped it and its just shocking she would be able to go on to live the next few months trying to cover it up and lie lie lie. also when she says i cant talk about that over and over, she CAN talk about it. shes choosing not to, maybe holding out hope she can still get out of this.

[@jjjmom6232]

The Chronicles of No Soul Lori

[@stephaniem6369]

so heartbreaking

[@madelynbeierle8232]

“That’s what YOU think” are you joking?

[@Hippieskippie]

That's so frustrating

[@rogcat7181]

Heartbreaking 😢

[@user-ed2vc4ge3v]

"Oh you have been deceived that is not christ like..." but she's talking to the demon murderer OF HER OWN CHILDREN!

[@virginiafromtexas]

She didn’t even tell them that Alex (their brother) died 😮 sick woman

[@lynnwilliams8295]

All she can talk about is “what she’s been through” are you freaking kidding me? She’s a narcissist and a psychopath and so is Chad the human thumb. It was a perfect storm when they met and they left a wake of murder and pain. I am 💯 percent sure others would have died if they hadn’t been stopped

[@mah3223alia]

Heartbreaking....a genuine response to the murder of two innocent and greatly loved children...it's so sad....and Lori Vallows ' response to a relative in acute emotional pain is chilling.....I hope she is locked away for the rest of her life.