Childless Cat Ladies: A Biblical Analysis

[@beautifulwhitecat]

This was a good response. My husband and I have been infertile for over a decade and only God knows the reason for this. He has His own plan & purpose which is perfect. He also tells us that all things work together for good to those who love Him and are called according to His purpose. We place our trust & faith in Him. He is everything. I believe one reason for this is that we are in the end times and the other reason for it is so we can have an undistracted concentration on spiritual things. God bless!

[@batbite_]

@@beautifulwhitecat remember, those who are brought together by spirit are closer than those of flesh: adoption is a beautiful thing if done with love.

[@FoundSheep-AN]

Have you tried deliverance prayer and asked for an exorcism?

[@FoundSheep-AN]

@@batbite_a lot of adoptions go wrong actually

[@batbite_]

@@FoundSheep-AN a lot of childhoods go wrong generally.

[@Nikwunu]

you should tell your husband to get an additional wife.

[@Nonprophetelias]

I had a feeling nuns with cats were gonna be here somewhere. I like the cheeky ending.

[@my-spinning-wheel]

The nuns near me have way more dogs than cats. And also some horses and peacocks

[@Kaspar502]

Your take on the problem also strongly resonates with the general anti-Pharisee theme of the gospel where Christ repeatedly tells the people that just blaming the sinners while not doing anything to actively bring God into their lives is never going to solve the problem of sin.

[@BunsBooks]

My husband and I have already agreed that if I cannot have living children due to my medical condition, if we cannot afford to adopt, and if we cannot qualify for fostering, then we will start an animal rescue non-profit. We already take care of, neuter, and adopt out the hoards of stray cats that live in our neighborhood. We have 8 living in our backyard right now we’re working on neutering and finding homes for. I come from a long line of cat people, even my grandpa has about 16 he’s taking care of on his farm right now cause people dump them. I leave it up to God, if I am healed of my condition, and if i’m blessed with children. If not, I still find my fulfillment in my marriage and my church

[@tradorthobrodyermanduginpageau]

Good video. I feel like American Protestants especially have a problem with constantly blaming childless women because they don't have monasticism. On the other hand, for us Orthodox Christians, the monastic ethos is at the center of our life in Christ, and while we do hold marriage in high regard, we don't really shun the childless either as they also have a path to salvation.

[@FoundSheep-AN]

You don’t have to be a monk to be a lay person single and celibate living in the world

[@Joe27160]

@@FoundSheep-ANhe never said that. but I think being a monk or nun is the greatest thing you can do for God.

[@tradorthobrodyermanduginpageau]

​@@FoundSheep-AN No, but monasticism is the highest form of life one can live in Orthodoxy.

[@thecossackcrusaderofholybr8448]

Yes but to be married and able to have children but CHOOSING not to is a failure on part of those married.

[@thecossackcrusaderofholybr8448]

@@FoundSheep-ANYes you do actually unless you are single and looking for a spouse. There is either marriage or monasticism NO in between!

[@dcc2351]

Not every women has the opportunity to have children. And if they have a nurturing spirit they look for whatever they can to nurture. Cats, dogs strays of all kinds. This isn't always a choice and should not be looked down on. Not everyone is blessed with a loving partner in this life!!!!

[@worldwanderer91]

Also could be that pets are less stressful than dealing with other human beings, child or adult

[@alexsn6442]

Great stuff. I think it’s a good thing to critique the “dink” lifestyle of a lot of modern people, as it is often driven by self centeredness and materialism. However there’s sometimes a tendency for Christians to act as if having children is the only way for a woman to have a meaningful life and put down unmarried women. Sometimes those sorts of sentiments give me pagan fertility cult vibes more than a Christian one.

[@RachelNichols-writer]

Not all single, childless women live like Chelsea Handler. Self-absorbed lifestyles are bad any way you cut it. Regardless of marital status and whether or not you have kids.

[@yecksd]

really really good brother

[@daphne-w98]

We all have varied experiences in different cultures and different algorithms online so I realize that the standards and cultural beliefs I’m about to mention are not something everyone has experienced. But I find it so odd that (in my experience) people have for centuries mocked the single/chaste/unmarried woman and her supposed misery through tropes like the cat lady, the spinster, and the idea in some cultures of women being like a “Christmas cake”, as in, no one wants ”it” after 25, and the whole ordeal is treated as a personal failure. But when men are single in increasing numbers, it’s a loneliness epidemic that the world must bend to solve because it’s a societal failure. I know that sounds like a very surface level feminist take but I cannot help but notice it. Maybe it’s because of the culture I grew up around why I feel this way. As if such men are consumers subject to a faulty distribution of resources, while such women are the faulty resource that spoils after a certain age, not meant to exist apart from a husband. In places that operate this why, it makes sense why *some women view marriage and children as a mandatory machination to escape from, or a loss of personhood. If being a wife means the same destiny of what I watched the women in my family go through then I don’t want it. This is why I have a respect for those whose faith emphasizes the ultimate purpose of life as communion with God, and maintains the sanctity of life and the value of a soul instead of only their idea of a “perfect” society where everyone must marry. This way, family values can be asserted without losing the rich tradition of nuns and monks.

[@sakamotosan1887]

That's a good point. I think American Christians, in their rejection of Mary and the honor due to her, have lost their respect for women in many ways. As Christ is the new Adam, so Mary is the new Eve. Protestants (Americans) believe asking Mary for her prayers is not only unnecessary, but actually evil/heretical.

[@waitingintheaether]

Great video. I have a lot of traditional/conservative friends, and while I respect how intelligent they are, I hate whenever they say "a woman's highest calling is as a mother." As a woman who can't have children due to moral/spiritual reasons, it's pretty alienating, to say the least.

[@mashruralam5795]

It’s alienating because you are fighting against God’s truth. Every woman is called to motherhood either through procreation or adoption or through the sacrament of holy orders.

[@waitingintheaether]

@@mashruralam5795 Eh, whatever happens happens. It's not that I don't want children, but being same-sex attracted creates a moral dilemma for being a parent. And God currently doesn't need me in a cloister. But if that changes one day, then I trust He'll show me where to go.

[@adenise__122]

@@mashruralam5795 every woman is called to sainthood. motherhood is not everyones calling

[@littlefishbigmountain]

@@waitingintheaether You can’t have children due to “moral/spiritual” reasons? Have you ever talked to your spiritual father about it?

[@waitingintheaether]

@@littlefishbigmountain Not yet. I haven't been baptized yet, so there's only so many opportunities I have to speak to him

[@gnas1897]

Another epic Telosbound analysis

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[@Chris-go7vv]

I agree with the end of the video however let’s not kid ourselves. The overwhelming majority of people who are not getting married are not choosing to be celibate if they were nun of this stuff would even be a problem tbh

[@LorenzoNivellini-wz6wh]

I disagree with the assumption of this video that anyone who chooses not to have a spouse, but to have pets, is putting their pets before God or their family. After all, Paul said in his letter to the Corinthians “Now to the unmarried and the widows I say: It is good for them to stay unmarried, as I do.” Someone who is abstinent, yet keeps cats for companionship, has more free time to volunteer, work, pray and do other things for the good of God. Of course, marriage is also great (I myself would like to marry), but there’s always a trade-off. At the end, you mention that some people can be called to celibacy-thus, even childless cat ladies can be holy. That I agree with.

[@jezuzjuize]

this is the content i’ve always been waiting for

[@macilop8670]

I needed to hear this. In Christ, thank you!

[@thestudyofstuff]

LOVE this... great video

[@gromitmugandshrek5157]

0:39 I see you have noticed…

[@mahmoudtaha1520]

Brilliant as always ❤

[@SbonisoMMDlamini]

This wasn't the serious philosophy I was expecting today but okay...You have my attention let's see

[@gutiux]

You are truly good kid

[@ishoshamo8949]

Father Moses has a completely different view on Adam and Eve. so which is it?

[@ishoshamo8949]

@@telosbound HAHa, yes, sir! I sincerely enjoyed your video, especially the ending. But keep up the work, and follow you guys on the gram.

[@sakamotosan1887]

You should get some icons on that wall behind you.

[@aryanz66]

Thank you brother

[@toasterstrudils]

another great video

[@batbite_]

Like, St. Macrina is kinda a God lady, living like a cat lady but with God instead of cats. And St. Francis of Assisi is kinda a bird man - urging us to see the divine in animals, like cat ladies see. Imagine how many unknown saints are catladies living like nuns in close communion with God but without the appearance of holiness. 🩷

[@batbite_]

What Vance attackes is the life outside the patriarchal family: The life which many saints, like St. Thekla or St. Makrina actively pursues, St. Thekla (who's name is the secret name of Makrina) is doing this rather clearly: She is proposed in marriage by her parents to a pagan man but instead of following the Conservative family values of roman society she goes and follows St. Paul - living without marrying like cat lady, dedicated to God.

[@batbite_]

@@sw3783 there's only one true father, by patriarchal i of course refer to the others. If you come to me but will not leave your family, you cannot be my follower. You must love me more than your father, mother, wife, children, brothers, and sisters-even more than your own life! (Luke 14:25)

[@IHateSand0]

@@batbite_ yes but they don't follow God

[@batbite_]

@@IHateSand0 Cat ladies can follow Christ just as well as, if not better than, wives.

[@batbite_]

@@IHateSand0 “But he who is married, careth for the things that are of the world, how he may please his wife; therefore there is a difference, for he is hindered.” And “So then he that giveth himself in marriage doeth well; but he that giveth himself not in marriage doeth better.”

[@WozzyWatkins]

I rlly wanna see this 🤞

[@lindaphillips4646]

Didn't realize he hates hillbillies...seems a bit harsh about him, but I will keep listening. .

[@lindaphillips4646]

​@@telosboundoh, i see. I get the tongueincheek here now. I hadn't heard any such comments from TRUMP, but even though i knew of the book, i hadn't read it, even as i have watched JD's rise in politics and heard some of his comments thru the years. I expect that TRUMP hasn't had much time to relax and read such books as this, but he had to know a lot about what JD thinks and his brilliance and skills which ought to be quite helpful for the campaign and the administration he hopes to run.

[@samrav]

@@telosbound I wouldn't really call it "trashing" either. He talks about the problems with hillbilly culture and how it (combined with bad policies) has lead to the socioeconomic decline of a group. The book supports the good things about hillbilly culture like loyalty while condemning many other things that are harmful.

[@katydidd6321]

@@samrav Oh, that's good to know. I live in farm country and am more than a little bit familiar with how badly federal policies and corporate interests have messed things up out here. I was about to get my back up about how the government is almost solely responsible for what's going on and how dare one of them now turn around and attack these people for whom life is a struggle every day, but it sounds like Vance may have covered it (albeit maybe not in the most tactful manner).

[@Chris-go7vv]

We gotta be careful with not explaining what we mean by equal in terms of worth but then people act like Adam and Eve ontology are the same becuz we say equal

[@BBBRRROOODDDYYY]

This was immaculate. 👏👏👏

[@olgaamalaventouratou3219]

thank you brother 🙂

[@FoundSheep-AN]

Actually Christianity in Rome, so the very early centuries of Christianity, they were not all about marriage and kids at all, Christianity gave a lot of status to women who lived in the world and decided to not marry, and the age of marriage for a Christian was much higher, they were a lot older when they marry, then pagans. Actually being single and celibate is a highest call then being a mom. Also St Paul said that. The Holy Theotokos was a Virgin. Jesus was a single man a virgin perfect celibate.

[@shulkash8799]

Be careful when taking Paul’s comment about celibacy as a command, because in his words, it’s his opinion, not commandment. Both are good.

[@normadaly7506]

Thank you

[@fabriennecatania5283]

I also have noticed that most of the men denigrating women who seek careers are into getting a career themselves, which makes them look envious of women who manage to do something they fail at. Interestingly, I have never seen anything against working women in the bible, having a work outside of raising your children as a woman was never a discussion in church when I was growing up. The thing is that Christ always taught generosity and service to others, which can happen trough a workplace environment. Contrary to common belief, being good at most jobs implies being helpful to others, doing it only for your own motives will only make you less productive at work. In many industries you are being of service to others, not yourself, keeping this in mind is very humbling and gives purpose.

[@josephcandito]

An excellent presentation, except I hoped you were being tongue in cheek with your statements about JD Vance. The statements you made about him are unfair and inaccurate.

[@MegaMetal96]

Yeah he kinda sounded like an angry childless cat lady for a second there

[@Retog]

The personal is political. You can’t avoid politics anywhere in life.

[@gizmoll4097]

If a woman is not defective or has limitations that prevent her from having children but chooses not to have children for some reason, is that woman considered to have commited a sin?​

[@julenkally]

If i never truly fall in love with someone again well?? I've got a plan (not a nun). I am chaste myself and when i say I want an older man who's also chaste people think i am crazy. Where do I find chaste men?? DO NOT suggest church because in mine there are only old women. My are of interest are men in their late 20s. i am myself in my early.

[@KyrieEleiso_n]

If you havent talked to your priest about this go ask him about your struggle finding a husband if possible

[@wesbror5731]

История со змеем напоминает фрейдистскую интерпретацию мифа об эдипе. Так, змей символизирует элемент хаоса, внедряющийся в священную диаду и превносящий элемент угрозы и погибели.

[@Immortal_swine]

2:29 duuude my mind is blown! 😵

[@Immortal_swine]

@@telosbound awesome! I'll have to Go follow. I like James Jordan as well and he talks about this in a few lectures but I've never heard it as concise and clarified as you put it in this video

[@sasi5841]

*stop infantalizing women! The women are adults, and the responsibility of their actions fully falls on them* they were not deceived. They chose that lifestyle.

[@aryanz66]

Nice. I want to know about the holy practice let's say

[@watsonblack7481]

His book is just about how hillbillies have to be better and stop doing drugs.

[@zed9095]

Rafael ambatunat

[@petergianakopoulos4926]

Trump 2924

[@mashruralam5795]

Bible never said Adam needed an equal partner. Eve was create to be Adam’s helper/rescuer.

[@libertyprime8228]

If you have no children, whether you are a man or a woman, you should not be able to vote or hold office because you have no investment in this country beyond yourself. People with children, generally, are less concerned about their own selfish needs and are more concerned about the well being and future of their children. This has a direct impact on their voting habits and leadership ability.

[@libertyprime8228]

​@@telosbound True. The Kingdom of God is not a democracy. I do wish we had a truly Christian theocracy in this country (U.S.). But i don't believe we will see that anywhere on Earth until Christ Himself reigns after His return. Christ is King!

[@adenise__122]

some of the most selfish people i ever met had children, it doesnt change the heart

[@libertyprime8228]

​@adenise__122 if you have a big enough sample group then you are going to find some like you mentioned, but that's not the norm. However, to willfully choose not to have children, when one would otherwise be capable, is a supremely selfish decision by default.

[@RachelNichols-writer]

@@libertyprime8228 Jesus had no children. I guess he won't want Him for King.