Temple of Artemis Strat | Civ 3

[@jimtalbott9535]

I remember moving between Civ2 and 3. The auto-build road was much welcome, but still not what had been suggested, at least not fully. I remember emailing Sid Meier sound 1998, just at what amounted to their “suggestion box” for the game. I said something like: “Hey, an auto-road build would be great, please please please, and made it so that we can set up the road to be built, and then let the settler and engineer go until it’s done.” Basically a multi-turn road build. Seemingly simple. But no, we got this.

[@szazorkan]

The single funniest strat imho! This brings me way back... I did this all the time LOL

[@anotharoundboi]

Hello Suede! been what? 2 yrs? i think 2 yrs since i last watched a vid of yours and shared a save file of mine. blame life and the time difference. XXD looking forward to more of your vids this 2023! :D

[@TheSauceBoss]

Man you are so good at explaining this game especially when it feels like there's no amount of explaining enough to make me good at it lol

[@Thunk00]

You don't know how happy I am to see new single player content coming from this channel, and this particular video is good quality content. It's also great to see how the community just flocks back as the channel is revived. Any chance of finishing the game up?

[@suedeciviii7142]

I think I want to try Arabs deity 60% water pangea next hahah. I'll load up the game next stream though definitely.

[@GrannySoupLadle]

The rogue settler bug seems like something that happened to me in a game a couple weeks ago where a worker walked a million tiles north before I realized he was going nowhere. It was very early expansion so theres no way I automated or didnt notice a misclick. Idk what happened.

[@VonKrauzer]

ToA start with SC follow up is great with low luxury environment. In your second start you had 5 lux fairly close to secure them all, which nullifies the reason to go for ToA strat in the first place. Guess it's just very situational, although the fact that it works not just on a single continent is nice.

[@MaartenvanHeek]

49:35 I only play single player, but I'm glad I see you do this to correct mistakes - in my last game I decided to attack an AI but then it turned out he had 10 Knights waiting for my 3 Impi, so that didn't go so well. I didn't save the game, so when I get back to it, I can reload to before I declare war on them, lol

[@MaartenvanHeek]

Also, watching this made me realise something about city sizes. A size 1 means 10-29k, with every wheat in storage being 1k pop.

[@suedeciviii7142]

Yes. The population counter in f8 actually counts how full the box is. I use this in multiplayer to tell how many agricultural opponents spawn with fresh water :)

[@MarcoAntonio-tb4gx]

Hello Suede I have seen some of your vidz and I really like them, Just wanted to ask if someday you could make a video with the Civ 3 exploits available. Even better if you separate them in allowed by the civfanatics comunity and the ones not allowed. Thank you very much in advance

[@shlomomarkman6374]

Interesting strat that i had never managed to pull of. Temple of Artemis was too expensive for me to risk and Polytheism too low priority. It's usually last or almost last Ancient tech i take (the other is construction). My usual strat is expand-rush rush rush-Republic and no wonders till medieval.

[@michaelgavin405]

You're so good at defending with not many units, nice game

[@arcasin8711]

Could you make a video explaining army composition and troops placement?

[@suedeciviii7142]

There's not really much to say. There's almost no depth to the combat system which creates depth everywhere else. Just have more units and better units and you'll win.

[@toviashapiro6772]

Can someone explain the ctrl-R trick hes talking about at 25:00 or so?

[@moz7491]

How were you able to get the grid lines to show up on your mini-map in the lower lefthand corner?

[@suedeciviii7142]

It's a graphical mod intended for multiplayer games. So that you can easily communicate location to a teammate. Let me know if you'd like a download link.

[@moz7491]

@@suedeciviii7142 Thank you. Listening to you talk about playing on Emporer level w/ halfway decent land as being a joke is a little intimidating...

[@suedeciviii7142]

@@moz7491 If you have even land compared to an opponent on emperor and manage your economy well (republic, luxuries, markets, no buildings you don't need, all tile improvements, no unit support) you will have similar science to the AI. Emperor makes the techs cost 70% as much for the AI, and good management closes that gap. Then you force them into a war, they collapse into fascism, slave away all their citizens, and you go to Alpha Centauri.

[@Taipei_103]

How does chain-slaving work? I've never seen it before.

[@suedeciviii7142]

The game won't let you slave away more than half your citizens. But if you break it into smaller chunks it basically will. So normally to slave an 80 shield building you'd need 8 citizens, but you can do it with 5 using chain slaving. Unhappiness and loss of citizens is the same though.

[@micheldesormeau6828]

Carthage great for mpt. You start in corner and only have one front.

[@suedeciviii7142]

In terms of tier list they're fine. But they're kind of unfun. No effort no res GA, defensive UU, industrious in case you get pillaged, and then cheese boating with seafaring. Still lightyears better than Greece for the mod though.

[@micheldesormeau6828]

@@suedeciviii7142 not that there anything wrong with a stack of swordsmen protected by hoplites coupled with 1 turn library savings for score. Did I mention alpha start for philo race? No bad ancient civs I guess, even Hittites playable with a popped settler.

[@suedeciviii7142]

@@micheldesormeau6828 Hittites are way better than Greece, and way more fun for the metagame than Carthage. Exp/Ind is a really good trait pair.

[@GrannySoupLadle]

Hey Suede Im having a real problem with Demigod. It seems like If my Cap is remotely good the other civs just send warriors at it to block me working land. I even tried Greece with double Hopkites on my Cap and still I have to end EVERY turn kicking out warriors so I can work my cow or wines or w/e. They eventually declare war after like 10 or so kickouts and its slows expansions to a detriment and I give up and load up an Emp game. And its not just aggressive Civs. Also, I play Pangea almost exclusively. Is my land just too good for the AI to ignore? What causes this

[@suedeciviii7142]

I really dunno what you're talking about here. The ai won't hang out in your land just to fuck with you. They are indifferent to national borders. So, they won't let borders stop them from doing something they want (settling a city, killing barbs, fighting an enemy ai) but they also won't mess with you intentionally. So to stop them, address the root issue. Want them to stop trying to kill barbs on the other side of your land? Create a wall so they can't path through. Or kill the barbs yourself.

[@GrannySoupLadle]

@@suedeciviii7142 Their only goals is to send warriors to my cap and fortify them on a tile next to it. I just dont know why

[@GrannySoupLadle]

Ill make a vid tonight

[@GrannySoupLadle]

On the histograph it says theyre ‘securing victory points’. i just retired my last game

[@GrannySoupLadle]

I must have a weird setting

[@andrewdennis2806]

How do you force other civilizations to go into fascism?

[@arcasin8711]

just make them fight in a war

[@suedeciviii7142]

Just make them fight and they'll naturally switch into it if the have the tech.

[@riqq6969]

What happened to this save file? Please finish!

[@suedeciviii7142]

I haven't touched it, I'll open it on my next stream.

[@riqq6969]

@@suedeciviii7142 are we ever going to get more playthrus or strategy content? Or is It just streams from here on out? Need more Suede!!

[@suedeciviii7142]

Yes. The script is complete for a video titled "Top 5 tips for advanced players"

[@majungasaurusaaaa]

So much for artillery being too slow and just needing to build fast attackers. Till RNG goes south and your whole horseman stack gets wiped out by a gung-ho pikeman.

[@HarperGamble]

“I hate universal suffrage” - Suede, 2023 As a feminist, I’m going to have to unsubscribe.

[@suedeciviii7142]

Don't be crazy. Universal means everyone. Are you saying people who put courthouses in their cap should be allowed to vote? Radical. /s

[@PerennialSash]

Oh your mic volume is so low :(

[@eetuthereindeer6671]

Man I just had a elite spearman escorting a settler die to a barbarian without even damaging it. Then I had 1-hp warrior kill 2 barbarian horseman attacks and a barbarian warrior attack without taking ANY damage 1:12:47 1:13:20 Why did you do it twice? Just to flex on montezuma how cheap you are?

[@scottmadsen9964]

tbh you should try to see if you can get the game data for civ 3 and fix alot of the bugs this release on steam had...

[@suedeciviii7142]

There's a group of coders working on rebuilding the game from scratch :)

[@scottmadsen9964]

@@suedeciviii7142 will you be able to let us know when it is out and fixed? I'm tired of getting space and conquest victories only to then not have the game finish because it always and i mean always crashes at the end... i legit can't seem to actually win or the game gods themselves have an anyerism

[@munsters2]

@@suedeciviii7142 That would really be great.

[@majungasaurusaaaa]

C3X patch on civfanatics.