Temple of Poseidon 🇬🇷 From Steppe to Sea

[@rokoskrobonja7779]

My friend and I were there 2 months ago. We are both your followers. Greetings from Croatia🇭🇷

[@amoreazione3563]

Greece is pervaded with sacredness. The first time I went there, I arrived with the ferry in Patras, jumped on a 2-hour bus ride, and headed straight for Delphi. By the time I got there, the sun had just started to dive behind the ridges and the temples and columns were stained yellow by its golden rays. All the surrounding mountains lay in silence and a few swallows flew in circles through the ruins. I was the only visitor on that day. I felt an energy that is hard to describe, a sense of holiness I had never felt before. Almost 20 years later, I still feel that same magic every time I set foot on the land of the Gods.

[@PortugalZeroworldcup]

Macedonia and Albania???

[@vaerulf877]

Its magnific. We went from Athens to Delphi and stayed there for just one night. It was one of the most amazing things I have seen. And its easy to imagine how it was, since it was well preserved.

[@scoon2117]

I would never leave. I need to go !!!

[@peterfrance702]

The Temple of Poseidon is perfectly sited in a stunning location. Absolutely gorgeous. Unfortunately it was closed when I visited a few years ago so be sure to check opening times.

[@bethwilliams4903]

‘The wine dark sea’ shimmering on all sides, just gorgeous, loved every second

[@Survivethejive]

😊 thank you

[@We-Wuz-Great-201]

@@Survivethejive Pagans and Christians have always found ways to wage war on each other. There is no unity in neo-paganism, on the contrary, it's these neo-pagan ideas that are driving our world insane. Yeah, you not a persecuted minority. The rulers of this world are neo-pagans.

[@drewbobaggins5212]

My pocket tap routine has become more frequent since your incident, especially when touring ancient temples. Absolutely love your stuff btw, particularly the tocharian video fascinating stuff.

[@THINKincessantly]

❤🤍💙🇩🇪 Love from the German heartland of Texas, brother!

[@firetreehawkpath]

Thank you for the priceless content throught the years.

[@ViscountWoodspring]

I just realised that I had gone to Poseidon’s temple on a school trip years ago and to Athens also, and I retold the story of Icarus and Daedalus to my colleagues sat in the temple ruins. Thank you for reawakening a precious memory

[@zhuyu9268]

Sounion was by a massive margin the most incredible thing i saw in greece. Not only is the temple impressive and the location amazing, but it was also the site of an ancient arsenal and one of the columns was signed by lord byron. I dont know if its changed but when i was there you could walk up into the ruins and find the signature. Glad to see you do a video on it. The parthenon was painfully underwhelming.

[@100thMkey]

What a sight that must have been. Fully adorned with the fires lit, just before sunrise or sunset. Poseidon surely must have been pleased.

[@Aluttuh]

now we have soulless papier-mâché structures, what a time to be alive .-.

[@dracodistortion9447]

i don't believe Njörðr is Poseidon. Poseidon is more akin to Aegir, the Greek god Nereus is more like Njörðr. Their names seem cognate and they're both fishing gods rather than gods of the sea itself. Poseidon definitely has Njörðr-esc properties, but i think the other part of Poseidon is much more like Aegir. both associated with natural disaster and the might of the sea

[@GHST995]

Had to build a temple to Poseidon after dedicating the city to Athena. Been there, love it.

[@DanDavisHistory]

What a beautiful place.

[@PairOfCatEyes]

4:53 this makes so much more sense with being the father of pegasus, it's always bothered me so much that a winged horse is associated with the sea God

[@scottt.shellcontinentalger2464]

Amazing work as usual, Tom!

[@Carti17]

Awesome work!

[@abbasalchemist]

Thank you for reminding us about the primordial identity bn Zeus and Poseidon. It explains the 15th century scholar's (Plethon) rationale for having Poseidon "married" to Hera and ruler of the world, while Zeus governs a higher position.

[@SleepingGiant77]

I'm really hoping you had a chance to visit one of the Bronze Age sites like Mycenae, Tiryns, or Pylos.

[@chrismiller001]

Was the film Jason and the Argonauts filmed there ? The temple looks familiar there is a scene where a blind man is freed from torment by harpies by Jason and friends.

[@gohonk7701]

I love that movie! Those were filmed in Paestum in modern-day Italy, which has the best preserved ancient Greek temples.

[@chrismiller001]

@@gohonk7701 Many thanks for your reply and the info - love the movie too - classic

[@destructionindustries1987]

I find it fascinating that Neptune is God of sea and horses, and Norse called boats "steeds of the sea" and the trojan horse was made of ship wood.

[@hjarta_reynis]

Ah, 4:54, recognising Lviv Poseidon here😌 Thank you for the high-quality content and all the efforts you put in it, greetings from Ukraine!🔱

[@ekmad]

Beautiful surroundings with the sprawling blue sea. That and the small rocky islands are what come to mind when I think of Greece. I very much prefer it to the Acropolis and will have to visit myself.

[@frasegfunk9790]

Awesome channel Tom, Absolutely loving it mate, keep up the good work 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

[@adriansmith6993]

That's a beautiful place to be. Love the ocean view! Thank you! 😊

[@Arkantos117]

IIRC the Minoans replaced in prominence their previous land based fertility goddess with a sea god after Thera erupted and helped cause major famine. This lead to a lot of new octupus iconography popping up all over the island and there's some evidence of religious conflict too.

[@hulking_presence]

Sounds like bs. Eruption of this power would probably cause "tsunamis". A lot of coastal lands all over the Aegean sea would be flooded. If they replaced their land based deities to sea deities it was probably out of fear towards the sea ones

[@Survivethejive]

Mycenaeans took the octopus art from the Minoans

[@Arkantos117]

@@Survivethejive You saying that has jogged my memory a litte. I may be shrinking the timeline as it's been so many years since I read up on it. Now I'm thinking that the Thera eruption didn't immediately destroy the prominence of the almost monotheistic fertility goddess but did cause permanent damage to the islands economy by destroying ports and Thera itself. This lead to the religious leaders being unable to distribute food after more famines down the line which resulted in her cult being violently done away with a little over a century later. At some point during all of this a minority began to worship a male godling. The Mycenenans attacked the island not long after the societal upheaval but I'm not sure if that was the cause of the return of octopus iconography or not. After that the Myceneans helped fill the religious void.

[@davidaustin5622]

A time of legends and heroes. We need some of that spirit now.

[@EuanWhitehead]

I definitely will visit greece again soon, the temples look gorgeous.

[@MatthewBurns8]

I was under the impression that the original version of Poseidon was thought to be a chthonic deity. Cape Tainaron (Sounion) was thought to be an entrance to the underworld and may be a remnant of Poseidon's past as an underworld deity. I know that in the Mycenaean era he was worshipped as a chthonic deity, and in Arcadia he was worshipped alongside Dexter (with a horse head) as an underworld god.

[@PairOfCatEyes]

The Poseidon & Pelops story reminds me Ganymede and Zeus

[@hedgiecc]

Thanks. What a beautiful video - you did Poseidon's temple proud. I've never been but it's on my list now! Poseidon and Athena competed for the rulership of Athens - clearly you are in Poseidon's camp 🙂

[@user98344]

I don't know if it's relatable but in Greece there are a lot of earthquakes in the sea so it is very interesting that he was also associated with that.

[@knollfields]

Great video! It’s also nice that the temple of Posideon was free of the Athenian crowds

[@Survivethejive]

Yes it was!

[@Divertedflight]

Living in the south pacific this makes a lot of sense. The ocean is our steppe, and it's funny as I was just thinking of this a few days before you posted.

[@Survivethejive]

Polynesians owned the pacific ocean steppe

[@rickardt1222]

Very nice video, thank you! Hail Njord! 🌊

[@bencancio914]

Greece is one of the places I'll go when I visit Europe . Supposedly did some amcestry research, and some of my ancestors lived in the Palace of Nestor during the Homeric Epics . So hard to believe but that's what my DNA says

[@Survivethejive]

Your DNA can only go back 8 generations in a commercial autosomal test so you have been lied to. Most Americans touring Europe seem to go to Athens, so you will meet many other Americans there

[@michaelbolland9212]

There's a temple to the left inside the beach at vouliemeni too

[@kellysouter4381]

It is an amazing view

[@Darknscary13]

Miraculous sights. Poseidon is very cool. Homomyths aside. Too many ancient Greek heads baking in the hot Mediterranean sun, methinks.

[@Darknscary13]

@@bunnyvillainy to the bog with you

[@justperson7551]

​@@bunnyvillainyWell, in my opinion, it’s not entirely correct to say that. Because the same Greeks, for example, had different attitudes towards this phenomenon, because ancient Greece consisted of different policies and in some policies the attitude towards homosexuality was more loyal, and in others it was discussed .And the Greeks also did not have the concept of dividing into orientations. The same Vikings, for example, condemned homosexuality extremely. So it would be more correct to say that the attitude towards this phenomenon in ancient Indo-European societies was different.

[@GrainDepot]

Epic. Went there last year - also made it up to Delphi, Thermopylae, Epidaurus, Nemea, Corinth and Mycenae. Beautiful country with a pervasive sense of the past and monuments to the old gods powerful even in ruins. If the bustle of Athens gets tiresome, I'd recommend driving round the Argolid or anywhere in the Peloponnese or Thessaly - it's bliss.

[@FortressofLugh]

We apparently just missed each other there, depending on when you filmed vs when you posted.

[@kaiserkater2308]

Been there twice it is a truly magnificent experience.

[@RP-ks6ly]

Sounion was pretty cool, we went a few months before you did....before the summer crowds. If you get robbed at the temple at Sounion, youll really have to try, the crowds are small.

[@MariAmmaSar]

In the story of Jason and the Argonauts, there is a temple dedicated to Poseidon in Iolcos, near Mount Pelion. Is it still there?

[@woodendoors9532]

Awesome vid

[@violetmoonofthenorth]

Looks amazing

[@Survivethejive]

It was!

[@GingerNuts361-ny4qp]

Seems hard to avoid “enriching experiences” anywhere in Europe these days. However, being a lover of history Greece is still on the top of my list

[@johannw7933]

Fantastic. It is great to think about Rome every day, but as good to think about Greece and our Germanic ancestors. Using the classical sources from Rome and Greece to help fill in the blanks for the North is preferable I think to using more foreign sources from India or Asia. They have value of course, but Rome and Athens are far closer to us and are our people.

[@PortugalZeroworldcup]

India is south Asia Hindu, Sikh and Buddhist

[@PortugalZeroworldcup]

Does Britain have dutch and french ancestry too??

[@Vynk8393]

You said about the Romans copying the Greek pantheon. I always thought it was the Indo European origins that influenced the core Gods of both the Roman and Greek religion. Love your videos mate

[@Vynk8393]

My bad just realised I commented on the wrong video. It was for your video on the Elgin Marbles 😊

[@Mozudeep]

Is it possible the divide come from Zeus = Dyeus Pater Poseidon= Werunos?

[@LearnRunes]

Possibly though I was under the impression that Poseidon is Neptune.

[@RyanTucker-r5d]

@@LearnRuneshe is. Neptunes name comes from Iranian Apam Napat which is definitely the Iranian name for Varuna.

[@hulking_presence]

@@RyanTucker-r5d actually Neptune was invented by albanians

[@boeotian-warrior]

Make sure to visit the Tholos Tombs of Mycenae as well !

[@Survivethejive]

I was visiting Athens!

[@Schloetz]

Do you incorporate any aspects of ancient celtic religion into your beliefs, or is it mostly from anglo-saxon origins?

[@GhostIntheShadowsYT]

I’d love to see some kind of new great pagan temple. It’s odd at how we marvel at these ancient temples when we are able to create such a better version of one nowadays. Can you imagine a modern temple for Zeus with all our capabilities? A giant great statue of Odin or Thor? Or a great Germanic temple for our gods? Oh but wait the Christian overlords wouldn’t be too pleased with that. But we are growing in numbers….

[@djprincegrandmasteryrjdalo2905]

That is never going to happen, and the fact that you even mention this is hilarious within itself…

[@scorpio8963]

@@djprincegrandmasteryrjdalo2905Nothing is impossible. It can be done.

[@joshjacob1530]

My clan have people who paternally descend from a people who could be connected with poseidon, relating to the sea peoples, and baltic origin with steppe preorigin. Wish I could find them and see how well they can swim, so further my own research, of course will be learning my own personal ancestry to decipher who my ancestor was and whay mytholized alchemically interpreted my ancestors were like and what they did.

[@pradyumn2692]

Are you a pagan because you believe that these Gods exist or is it just that you are fascinated by the history and mythology of these Gods ?

[@djprincegrandmasteryrjdalo2905]

No, he 1000% believes in that, I’m not lying, he truly does…

[@joon148B]

Leather Apron Club did a great video proving wrong the idea of homosexuality in Ancient Greece and Rome. It was not acceptable at any point in those places do I doubt they attributed homosexuality to their gods.

[@Survivethejive]

I thought his videos were thorough but i preferred the roman one. The fact is that the greek myths did depict homosexuality and there is no question about this

[@joon148B]

@@Survivethejive I believe he admits as much, however he showed that the depictions were done in a derogatory manner. I think - I listen to videos as I work & don’t watch them. Thanks for replying!

[@Survivethejive]

@@joon148B well you missed out on about 90% of what I am doing if you don't look

[@Yk9o]

​@@Survivethejivethe myths depicted satyr graping both men and women, but the rest is just english speaking alphabet groups in academia willfully misinterpreting the translations surrounding the word love, when in greek there are multiple words for different kinds but in english only that one word.

[@pablogats4627]

@@Survivethejive werent most greek myths zeus banging women? What is it with the english and their lgbtq ancient greece fantasy

[@EresirThe1st]

Perhaps I'm just spoiled by Australian beaches, but I thought the landscape looked pretty dull and lifeless. Nonetheless a wonderfully informative video.

[@scoon2117]

Read about it in Herodotus cool

[@godsblackpanther]

Hoping Poseidon was Better for You than the Parthenon 😊😊😊 Thank You 💜

[@Survivethejive]

He was!

[@hawndove6992]

Anyone upset about you saying that any god was homosexual from greece never picked up a history book. Certain things in the past wasnt a big deal

[@thoughtfox12]

Did you carve your name on the temple like Byron?

[@Survivethejive]

no i did not

[@candylandi5351]

STJ is able to make even homosexuality look based when talking about Indo-Europeans!

[@Yk9o]

There was no such thing. Like so many English speakers, he is misled by the alphabet group in academia willfully misinterpreting translations as in greek there are many words for love, but then in english there is only one word, so the alphabete choose to believe that it refers to the romantic kind between two males even though it isn't so.

[@RuneRelic]

You recognise the association between sea, earthquake and horses. Yet you make no association with the wave crests as metaphorical/historical white horses and tidal waves ???

[@Survivethejive]

early horses weren't white so that cannot have been an original meaning. The Yamnaya horses would all have been bay

[@RuneRelic]

@@Survivethejive And what of Rhiannon Epona, the vale of the white horse and irish king making ceremonies ? Also the mayday celebrations. Especially connotations relating to 'cavalry'.

[@RuneRelic]

@@Survivethejive Giraldus Cambrensis' Topographia Hibernia

[@RuneRelic]

@@Survivethejive "The rite described by Cambrensis above appears to actually echo a similar rite performed by kings in India as far back as the 2nd Century BCE: the Ashvamedha. This ritual was performed by Indian kings as the most important manifestation of rulership, as it was the most important rite in the hierarchy of sacrifices. The general features of the Ashvamedha line up pretty closely with Cambrensis' description of that Irish coronation ceremony: both involved the union with the horse, its subsequent killing, the king being bathed and the horse's consumption by the king's people." Endquote Further investigation may be merited I guess, considering our indo european routes ?

[@RuneRelic]

@@Survivethejive Thus, the gist being, you cant outrun a tidal wave any more than a fabled white horse.

[@johnl5316]

I wonder if Poseidon would be too demanding a lover for me to handle.

[@wodensreign9839]

robbed at a temple... shoulda worshiped Hermes my man

[@HowieHoward-ti3dx]

Well, at least he probably didn't get robbed of his 4skin which is irreplaceable.

[@Mike-tz4cm]

Do modern pagans have a view about what the gods did/felt during the rise of the Abrahamic religions in Europe and the near east?

[@SEKreiver]

Isn't Poseidon's name derived from the Phoenicians?

[@EnlightenmentEnlightenme-oy2ke]

Love you’re content I would like to address the culture issue and ideology by stating We are all one race which is the human race The original meaning of empires meant territory and ideologies Lastly Roman Empire became the Roman Catholic Church and Greek empire became the Orthodox Church Black people either identify with their sovereignty which is American or british their culture which is either European and American vs the blacks who identify with their tribal third world countries such as Jamaicas etc We will always have conflict as these countries don’t like us period And quite frankly when the Caribbean’s came to European when the European countries left and gave them their independence they made the choice to give up their citizenship and passports and become the citizens of the countries they wanted to be apart of which unfortunately a large number still identify with their tribal countries and ideologies and just wanted a passport this is a fact Enlightenment for all

[@scorpio8963]

Genetics disagree with your assertion. Europeans are not descended from a ghost species like Africans are.

[@bigscarysteve]

Can anybody guess which word in this video was mispronounce so badly that it made me wince?

[@jayizzett]

Shut up about the pickpocketing Wow bro

[@Survivethejive]

never

[@jayizzett]

@@Survivethejive just mention it. You continued with it more than half way thru your video. Or just rename the video

[@matztz_4560]

Pointy chin🗿

[@slavicpride3078]

Tipical greek steriotipe 😂😂😂 no hard felings jk

[@berserker4940]

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[@bhojpuribakaiti9564]

@7:35 very laughable interpretation of poseidon as god of horses. but, its alright. keep your distance from vedas and continue misinterpretation. even zues and Poseidon becoming brothers, Poseidon usurping other gods. this video is quite a comedy show. only good part in the video was you asking permission from great god to stroll around his temple.

[@Survivethejive]

It isn’t my personal interpretation but that of renowned experts in the field. I bet you are one of those Indians who can’t cope with the fact Aryans were from the Andronovo culture

[@horsesofhelios]

@@Survivethejivet50 ramblings as usual

[@fafa8]

Basically, the descendants of the Minoans made Indo-European gods gays? 😅