Ten Tips For Better Leather Sewing By Machine

[@karenmccourt6746]

Thank you Harry for coming back to me so promptly. All your tips are so useful..thanks again 🤩

[@charliekingpin8568]

As usual top tip from a top man, many thanks :)

[@jeffgage8906]

Harry, thank you for all you that share. I learn something new with every video!

[@dustycornerscalgary2208]

Thanks for all the tips including the scissors on a chain cheers!!

[@nightshirt_with_socks]

Thank you so much for simplifying this for everyone! Saves me having to look for these tips in 100 different places :D

[@vpolarbear]

Thanks Harry, its a pleasure to watch your videos as I learn a lot about leather, bodgers and England and I see your work is top notch High Quality.and being disabled it cheers me up. Have a wonderful day

[@harryrogers]

Thanks very much Taz.

[@campanellacreations3764]

Thank you for taking the time to post these tips

[@AlexanderDyer]

I enjoyed this video quite a lot, it reinforced some things that I have learned and added some new techniques for me. I look forward to hammering some seams, that is a great tip that I am excited to try. Thank you.

[@harryrogers]

Alexander Dyer I am sure you could add another 10 tips Alexander! All the way Harry.

[@leighdesaram]

I found your video very knowledgeable and helpful. You've saved me a lot of time trial and error I'm sure. Thank you

[@defdaz]

Thanks so much Harry, listening to you has made me feel so chilled out. :)

[@saherabdulhadi811]

Mister Harry, I can talk to you

[@saherabdulhadi811]

Facebook or WhatsApp

[@JensKliewer]

Fantastic, as every video of you... Thanks a lot 🙏🌺

[@silvermaple7779]

I was able to switch image quality to 720p50 in this video...absolutely stunning! Very informative as well, thanks for sharing. Have a great day!

[@harryrogers]

Thanks...pleased you are getting a quality feed....will go to 1080 if you have the bandwidth!

[@whitandpark]

Another great video, Thanks Harry!

[@harryrogers]

Stock & Barrel Co Thanks ...just subbed

[@ramloganfracic5761]

Harry I must appreciate that point that you made about reducing the length of the stitch around curves.I learned that a long time ago. I am grateful for your channel and you. You should write a book Sewing Digest Bless you.

[@harryrogers]

Thank you very much.

[@paulbodypumper1]

Thanks Harry another great video

[@remul13]

Thanks for the video. I am from Russia and rather poorly understand English, so you have some points to learn intuitively. You are a great master!

[@harryrogers]

Remul 13 I am pleased to help...thanks.

[@mariethiebaud1415]

Really appreciate this vid just getting started with leather!

[@fatimapetersen8357]

Thank you. That was very helpful

[@kimainsworth-bowes593]

As always, great tips. Thank you !!!

[@shaunm2208]

Thanks for sharing Harry

[@ramloganfracic5761]

Thank you for these tips and May God bless you and your family.

[@harryrogers]

Thanks very much

[@MIKEMAKESTHINGS]

Great video. Love that machine.

[@boboclown8722]

wonderful video as are all ! hammer stitches... who'da thunk. Thanks Harry. Get busy Harry. We want more videos.

[@harryrogers]

Thanks Bobo

[@tradesmenleathercompany9178]

I'm new to machine stitching. Very informative and useful. Thank you!

[@alexdorand]

Have you considered making a video on stitching gussets and body?

[@francoiseg2305]

Yes you are right and SHE is so beautiful! Hope one day to buy a modern one.

[@wilkbor]

Thanks for the information, Harry. Have a great evening.

[@francisdescent134]

Thank you God bless you

[@Futwea]

Thank you, I just started using sewing machine still learning. These tips are what I need 😊

[@Futwea]

Happy New Year!

[@harryrogers]

@@Futwea Thanks very much and Happy New Year to you.

[@rickwalker5238]

Again, I learned. I've not been burning off the ends of my thread. Duh. It's nylon. Of course it melts and creates a ball. Thanks! I'm using a Singer 99 (circa 1952) that I've adapted to a hand-crank. It suits my needs, thus far. I spend too much time making sure my ends are neat. You gave me a simple solution. Thanks again.

[@bigrickshaberdashery2759]

Nice Harry, keep on sewing

[@franswi3026]

I was wondering why I keep coming back to see your videos and I realized besides your expertise and well filmed presentation, I don't have to mute out annoying music to listen and learn.I don't even do leather sewing, I sew vinyl seats but still the same principals apply. I enjoy your videos thanks for sharing!

[@harryrogers]

Thanks very much

[@ThisIsWhatJacksMeOff]

Thanks for uploading content, this was extremely helpful to someone like myself looking to start out at this craft. I can honestly say that I never leave comments on youtube content and felt inclined to drop one here. Looking forward to going through your content and watching what you have to share in the future. cheers!

[@harryrogers]

Thanks very much Rgds Harry

[@DMrFrosty]

Exactly what I needed to learn. Keep up the good work there ol chap.

[@jimmyfavereau]

Thanks Harry. 🙏🏼

[@yvesdavignon7870]

Hello Harry, I love your excellent video. In a sequence, you are showing small magnetic led lights, I can't locate them, do you have the make and model of these? Tx Yves

[@harryrogers]

Hi Yves...I got those from College Sewing Machines UK a while ago.

[@auroraschmidt985]

So clever, thanks for this!!

[@MadMFox]

Great tips, Harry!! Thank you!

[@harryrogers]

Thanks...and first to comment!!

[@henniepelser5958]

Hi Harry. I have just bought a cylinder arm sewing machine and find your tutorials very helpful. Please post more tutorials on sewing with the cylinder arm machine. I am especially interested in sewing "piping" as finishing. Also, I do get requests for leather steering wheel covers for vintage cars. Cheers and keep up the good work.

[@motherpops]

I always learn something new Harry, your analogy of the pins in wood made perfect sense to me. I say all this but I don't do leather work and only have a standard sewing machine. But still I find your videos very informative. Thankyou

[@harryrogers]

Thanks Doreen

[@billyjoedenny]

yes great tips harry...thank you ..bill

[@javiermeza2557]

Quality content Mr Rogers. Some times the complexity of the terms used in industrial leather stitching and even general leathercrafting are very unatractrive to some unpatient beginners that want quality results with little effort. For those that are willing to push through your videos sharing empirical knowledge are what some times makes a start up succeed or not. Thank you very much for taking your time to make these they are very much appreciated.

[@harryrogers]

Javier Meza Thanks Javier.

[@Porquerolles77]

Thanks. Very useful video. I’m new to leatherwork and have bought a Tysew flatbed. When I sew it seems to skip a stitch now and again. I’m pretty sure I have the correct needle and thread sizes. I’d be very grateful for any advice!

[@harryrogers]

Might be worth checking with Tysew....is the needle damaged...like a rough eye? Is the foot tension correct or too firm...loose?

[@Porquerolles77]

It was the foot tension. I’d loosened it to stop marking the leather. Thank you very much!

[@TRADERnel]

Why the shop looks great.. lots of great stuff there I'm glad you're growing and I like that high definition camera great video

[@harryrogers]

TRADERnel Thanks very much I really appreciate your comment. Regards Harry

[@InspiralJez]

great video, thanks! Bonded nylon or polyester for leather sewing?

[@harryrogers]

Both!But bonded nylon is my go to for strength.

[@robthewaywardwoodworker9956]

I am just starting into leather work so this sort of info is invaluable. Thanks for making the video. I would love to know if you have any videos on selecting a good sewing machine that is "budget friendly"? Cheers.

[@harryrogers]

Take a look at my Singer 29k patcher films, and my latest Singer 331k film. Neither of these machines are ideal, but they might get you started, and then if you like it you can make the leap to an expensive compound feed industrial machine.

[@robthewaywardwoodworker9956]

@@harryrogers Thanks!

[@lukasrohulan6997]

Cheers Harry good advice.

[@starfish3704]

Great video and tips, thank you!

[@wilkbor]

Excellent. Thanks for the video.

[@dabainbridge7057]

You missed off the best seen tip of all...No. 11 ......tie your thread snips to dangle conveniently.! Great vid.!

Que máquina espetacular!!!! Uso uma Yamata Fy8700 para costurar em curva tem algum assessório universal?

[@KimoPollock]

Harry, I've enjoyed watching many of your videos and when the topic stitch length came up, my pricked up. What I am interested in, though, what length stitches do you commonly use for wallets, bags etc. Do you ever use stitches larger than 6mm and, if so, on what? Thanks!

[@harryrogers]

I use fairly fine stitches but not so fine you can tear the item apart...there is a balance as fine stitching can be weak...its best to try a seam and then try to destroy it to decide on the best stitch length...bear in mind also for small items like wallets it is easier to sew curves with small stitches. 6mm....that is a very large stitch!

[@KimoPollock]

@@harryrogers it's good to hear that 6mm is longish for bags. I'm considering a narrower cylinder machine that maxes out at 6mm. In your "how to sew up a leather bag by machine" video, it looks like yours also goes to 6mm or so, but you're using a 3 - 3.25mm stitch.

[@kwkstar]

I just got a Cobra 26. And watching your video took care of some questions that were bugging me. Great video!!

[@harryrogers]

Great...thanks.

[@Tina06019]

Very helpful video, sir. Perhaps someone else will also mention this: make sure that leather glue is really dry before you stitch through it. I really “gummed up” my domestic fabric-sewing machine by stitching through something called “Stitch Witchery,” which is a no-sew quick-hemming notion. That product WAS completely dry; I had used it to baste up the hem before sewing. I won’t ever do that again!

[@carolehack226]

Great info, and easy to follow video. Which Juki machine are you using?

[@harryrogers]

Hi the flatbed was a Juki DNU1541

[@Blackford86]

Sir, I have a artisan 1797AB my stitch indicator knob turns but the stitches do not regulate. Do you have any idea what the problem might be?

[@ejne2]

This was a very informative video for me since I’m just starting out. Thank you sir.

[@KismetBP]

I just discovered this video. Wonderfully done, such great info. Love it. :)

[@karenmccourt6746]

Hi Harry, thank you very much for your very informative videos. Could you please tell me what kind of foot you have in the video .... a split toe ???? is it a zipper foot ? All the best Karen

[@harryrogers]

Hi Karen...yes it's a zipper foot, you can also grind off a section of regular foot as another option. I find the zipper foot still gives good transit, but is easier to control, and to see what is going on stitch wise.

[@vinyl_hug795]

thanks for the video! could you show some tips for sewing by hand?

[@harryrogers]

I have posted films on saddle stitch...phone case, belt and black bag series...hope they help.

[@Firewalker688]

Fantastic video as usual Harry! Wishing you all the best in the New Year! Cheers!

[@harryrogers]

Firewalker688 Thanks

[@teresacalderon2733]

Me gustaria que isiera los tutoriales en castellno soy de colmbia me gustan sus tutoriales gracias

[@francoiseg2305]

Ps at the same time I am learning very good British English! Thanks again I am waiting for your next video.

[@harryrogers]

Françoise G Thanks

[@sandrabrooke7061]

Hello, Love your video of great clear and concise tips. Please can you tell me where you bought your magnetic LED lights? I searched Google and Amazon but with no luck. Thank you.

[@harryrogers]

College Sewing Machines UK have them for Jack motors etc. EBay UK has a generic magnetic light set via china.

[@SH-vm1rz]

Wow you are grate...thanks

[@DonnaEDesign]

I’d like to know where you got that little magnetic LED please.

[@harryrogers]

Ah yes I got that off Ebay, I think some of the sewing shops have them...but maybe more at the industrial end such as College Sewing Machines UK.

[@pq5005]

Thank you so much. I am trying to figure it all out and you are really really helpful. When I lock my stitches in, is it different with leather? Doesn't going back and forth like that on leather cut it?

[@harryrogers]

Same idea on leather and with a good machine you can hit the same holes on return so no risk of weakening the leather with lots of holes.

[@pq5005]

Harry Rogers, That makes sense but, my needle's description on the back of the package says that it has a "cutting point" wouldn't that mean it has a chance to cut the thread when doing this?

[@harryrogers]

@@pq5005 Certainly not a problem that I have ever experienced with chisel points...you should be fine

[@pq5005]

Cool.

[@pq5005]

Do you have any experience with making leather gloves? There isn't much on KZbin.

[@samehelazmerly508]

Thanks Harry for your fast reply,,, I saw the video and it was very useful,,, another question please ,,, I see a video that you are talking about selling online ,,,, so I need to use folksy ,,, my question is ,,, can I use folksy while I am from Egypt ,,, in other words ,,, is it able to accept my products and send it as a fright to the customer ? Thanks and sorry for inconvenience

[@harryrogers]

sameh elazmerly Please look at a film I have posted about selling on line...and look at Etsy

[@fionaritchie7336]

Hi from New Zealand Harry. I just retired my Pfaff 545 and bought a Cowboy compound feed walking foot. I mostly make bookcovers using a 2.5mm thick Nubuck with the inside sleeve attached to the cover with double sided tape, and use a thicker needle with no thread to punch the holes for hand stitching. This worked fine on the Pfaff. On the Cowboy I am finding that the sleeve is coming out of alignment and at worst the needle is pulling to the side and sometimes twisting. On occasion the belt is slipping. Also if I stitch from a double layer to a single layer, the "stitch length" hole spacing gets closer (again, no problem with this on the Pffaf. Does this mean the pressure on the foot is too high?

[@harryrogers]

I would certainly try reducing the pressure and see if that helps....I am sorry I have not experienced this.

[@fionaritchie7336]

@@harryrogers Thank you so much for reply Harry!

[@fionaritchie7336]

Hi Harry, I tried reducing the pressure and also putting paper underneather to make the leather slip easier, and it worked!!

[@harryrogers]

@@fionaritchie7336 That's great

[@JENNISWISS]

thx for your good content🍀👍

[@samehelazmerly508]

Hello mr Harry ,,, I get a problem when sewing the sides for a leather bag ,, as I am not able to move with my sewing machine to attache the back and the front with a U pattern ,,, I hale that I clarified well ,,, thanks

[@harryrogers]

sameh elazmerly Hi I have just posted a film on sewing up a bag...that might be of help? Regards Harry

[@gideonfulton7167]

Wondering what brand the LED magnetic light is, and where you purchased it? I have been looking online and am unable to find one like this. Thanks for any help!

[@harryrogers]

Hi College Sewing Machines UK have them.

[@alfa5243]

Your just relaxed just no worries.

[@gwynneclark6372]

Thanks once again ,I've been following since I first watched when you made a stiching pony in oak from your neighbours leftover wood project keep up the good work

[@harryrogers]

gwynne clark Thanks

[@flatdog-]

I suffered a stroke two years ago, before the stroke I was sewing my leather by hand & I’m now using my leather work as rehab for my right hand. I live in Melbourne Australia I had the opportunity to try a sewing machine but, I’m was a little worried because it left marks on the leather- how do I go about changing the tension so the leather isn’t marked?

[@francoiseg2305]

Many thanks'Harry, Very useful tips. Unfortunatly I only have a singer 29k.....it is more difficult to be perfect...

[@harryrogers]

Yes that was my first machine....it still has some advantages and I have held onto mine for the benefit of that slender arm and rotating 360 foot!

[@javiermeza2557]

Is that the handcrancked patcher? Difficult to be perfect but can you make good work with it? Wallets & bags?

[@leecloward7384]

Hi Harry, love your videos. Here's a question for you. I have a Thor 1341s, Juki knock off. Love it for Italian leather bags etc. the problem is in sewing veg tan wallet and having track marks left on the leather. Is there any way to not have those track marks?

[@harryrogers]

Hi Lee...reduce top foot pressure with top knob...file off some serrations on foot...and if that does not do it try some paper over the work and pull it off after stitching.

[@christiancarlander42]

I'm in the market for a machine but can't decide on a medium-weight "allrounder". I'm planning on making collars, belts, wallets and bags. My first look was at flatbeds but I' not sure how well they'd deal with bags, so I was thinking perhaps a cylinder arm with a removable table would suit? Can you recommend any such machines?

[@harryrogers]

It's a good idea to take some leather samples to a machine dealer and try some machines. I would consider a roller foot for the flat sews like wallets. A cylinder arm with a table is a good starting place. I like my Pfaff 335 type Tysew cylinder arm clone for bags. I think the London Leather Workshop now offers a 2 hour course trying different machines.

[@christiancarlander42]

@@harryrogers Is yours similar to the Tysew3600? I've got someone testing some pieces of various materials on a flatbed I'm looking into but it struck me that bags are "generally" made with a cylinder arm, so I figured I might combine the two machines by adding a detachable table-top to a cylinder arm machine. I have also noticed however, that not many makers have suggested this, so I'm worried there's a particular reason for this, that I'm missing...I like the roller foot idea, that'd be to avoid any tracks from the presser foot on flat surfaces?

[@harryrogers]

@@christiancarlander42 Yes....and the roller gives good turning around curves on a flat sew...Best to try some and see what you like.

[@christiancarlander42]

@@harryrogers Cheers! That'll be my next step! :-)

[@christiancarlander42]

@@harryrogers Sorry to bother you again..I've been looking closer at the Tysew3600c-1 (to compare brands etc.) but it doesn't come as a compound feed, just needle feed. How much control am I losing by not having a compound feed? I like that machine and the Braithwaite GC2698, also a needle feed. I need to narrow down my options before I go testing...:-)

[@IonCatalin]

Hi Harry, I currently have a Jones 920 sewing machine which is pretty much a very old brother straight and zig zag sewing machine. I have bought a walking foot adapter (doesn't compare to the real deal) and I am now trying to use thick polyester thread for leather upholstery. Have you ever tried this? My poliester thread can't sync with the bobin at all! Normal thread works a charm but it's too thin for a car gear shift gaiter..

[@harryrogers]

I have found it very bouncy in small bobbins....Guttermans upholstery thread is very nice.

[@IonCatalin]

Many thanks I'll have a look at Guttermans thread and I will try find a solution for the bouncing and locking 😁

[@stoerrmichelle]

Thanks for the tips Harry. I'd like to know whether burning the thread off with a lighter (as you did in the video) can damage a lighter coloured leather? If so, I was wondering if a wood burning tool would have a similar effect of sealing thread with less of a chance of damaging finer leather? Thanks very much, Michelle

[@harryrogers]

stoerrmichelle best test first...you could use an electronic thread zap if an issue

[@tariqhassan387]

Can you recommend tool for split leather tapering

[@harryrogers]

Hi I am not certain what you are asking but if its to skive then a Barnsley skiving knife...I do not use split leather, so there may be better options?

[@tariqhassan387]

@@harryrogers when we sew belt we need skive bottom end because if it straight then needle won't climb or sew hope you understand

[@tariqhassan387]

@@harryrogers we paste 2 part bottom one need to skive or taper in order to let the needle sew the belt

[@harryrogers]

@@tariqhassan387 Sounds like a job for a skiving machine?

[@tariqhassan387]

@@harryrogers send me your email I will send image you will understand

[@popscratchie3985]

Hi Harry could I ask what model is your cylinder arm machine?, can you get an add on table attachment for that model? and finally you said you use 20, 40, and 60 thread, are they the limits in thread size or could you use thinner/thicker thread if you wanted? Sorry to ask so much, perhaps you should be sending tysew a bill 🤣

[@harryrogers]

Hi its a Tysew...3600 something...my review will be on their website for it. I am not aware of a commercially made add on table...I think the machine is fine with nm40 and nm60 thread...I guess you might possibly be able to go thinner????? but you would have to retension top and bottom.....less certain about thicker...not really I guess.....check with Tysew they are very friendly.

[@popscratchie3985]

@@harryrogers thanks for the reply Harry I will give them a ring.

[@isaymymind1727]

Thanks for the video. I've been looking for prices of machines and not so many websites show their prices. I googled the name of your machine and came across a website in the uK that sells them. Thanks so much. They should pay you for this. How much did you buy you own machine?whats the specific model?

[@harryrogers]

That one is a Tysew cylinder arm machine...I have left a review for it on the Tysew website...it's not the binder version.

[@paulaulrich9170]

Hi Harry, Paula again! Just a little question. I have just purchased an industrial machine recently and am trying to get used to it;) Any tips for back stiching at the start so that it doesn't look too messy. If I don't back stick at least threes stitches it comes undone :( I'm trying to sew lets say card holders or glasses cases so you need the stitching to be neat as you can see it. Many thanks once again, love the videos!

[@harryrogers]

Thanks...yes back stitching three or so is good. Carefully select your needle to thread so the hole is not oversized and the thread sits there happily. Also bear in mind with thinner leathers a nm40 or even nm60 thread is good and you can have smaller stitches ...so neater. Finally hammer over the stitches to make them sink in....I hope that helps a bit. Rgds Harry

[@paulaulrich9170]

@@harryrogers Thank you Harry for taking the time to reply, I'm new to all this! My new industrial sewing machine has taken some getting used to!

[@mykvass]

Great video thankswhat machine would you suggest for leather sewing and whats the name of the thread you'd use ?

[@harryrogers]

Vrinda Bhalla Hi the thread is bonded nylon and I have put up a film on choosing a leather sewing machine..it really depends on what you want it for.

[@pablomartinvazquez]

Hi, I´m from Argentina, excellent video! If you can lend me a hand, I have to make a decision on my sewing machine, wich by theese days is a straigth Typical GC 7. Do you recommend me to trade it for that kind of machine you have? The type of job is rather the same you do, but some times a little thick vegetable tanned leather (till 0,5cm!!) Thanks in advance

[@chrisapattee]

What is better, polyester or cotton thread?

[@heshramsis5038]

man thank you so much .

[@debbies6266]

Hi Harry, thanks for the great videos. Could you tell me if you are using the TY-3600C-1?

[@harryrogers]

Hi Debbie..yes and that's my review on their website...very good in my opinion..I paid full price with my own money.

[@debbies6266]

@@harryrogers Thanks Harry. I am going to visit them to try one out myself.

[@robmorf8617]

Can you tell us where you got the magnetic LED light you show in this vid please? Google finds loads of LED products, but I can't find anything quite like them. Loving the vids Harry, keep them coming.

[@harryrogers]

Robin Fortt Hi Robin...College Sewing Machines UK..thanks.

[@willrice2792]

As always Harry, you show things I haven’t found anywhere else. What are your thoughts about a Rex Juki 26-188 machine for doing leather? I bought one three years ago from an upholsterer and due to life changes, I haven’t even plugged it in yet! I’m a woodworker who no longer has the equipment or shop, so I thought I would give leather crafting a shot. Never worked leather but have made clothes

[@harryrogers]

Hi Will...I would have thought it would work well with thinner bag and upholstery leather...looks good.

[@willrice2792]

Thanks for the response and for sharing your knowledge.

[@pablonorte77]

Можно сделать ремешок для часов на швейной машине?

[@ozzfest78]

i just bought a old 1910 model 31-15 it does not have a long stitch at all even sat a longest point. Iv been told that has to be heavy modified to gain a longer stitch

[@kenyonvirgil13]

So what does 20 40 and 60 convert to in us sizes

[@harryrogers]

Hi you need to look for conversion tables...I recall Toledo Sewing Machines has one on their site, but they are on the net.

[@dusenu]

I am imppressed with the speed.. how could I change my typical GC2605 so that I can sew with slow better speed. do you use servo motor or just classic dynamo motor?

[@harryrogers]

rapopo servo is the way to go for slower speed...I have also downgeared mine 3 to 1...and have posted a couple of films on that.

[@tomanderson3007]

I like the size of your anvil - can you provide me with info. on the brand or where I could get one like it, please?

[@harryrogers]

Its a 28lb anvil shaped object..end of line off Ebay.

[@andersoncustomleather136]

Harry Rogers thank you, sir

[@thornwarbler]

Thanks for that

[@antigov7591]

Harry, I love your videos. You give such good info. I just got a Juki LU562 and I’m having the hardest time with back stitching. The thread gets caught up underneath and I have to cut out multiple threads. Any suggestions on what I can do differently?

[@harryrogers]

Odd that it's on back stitching...is you needle catching the foot...usually top tension too loose or bottom tension too high is the reason otherwise.

[@harryrogers]

To add, if you start with back stitching do you hold the threads to prevent gather? It helps.

[@antigov7591]

Harry Rogers thanks Harry. I do hold the thread tightly to start a stitch. I start by going forward a couple stitches, then I back stitch a couple with no problem. It’s usually when I backstitch at the end of my run that this happens.

[@harryrogers]

@@antigov7591 Perhaps check end of rotary hook for a micro burr, a needle struck bobbin case or a burred needle?

[@antigov7591]

Harry Rogers you are the best! I really appreciate you taking the time to help. I will check.

[@devriescustomleather1109]

Good!

[@jeffdeluca1153]

Hello again Harry! I found an Adler 167 industrial machine. Got it to actually stitch now with the needle system 134 as the manual says. Someone had a longer needle in the machine so I needed to re-time the hook. I can get 3 or 4 stitched before it tangles up. Any ideas? Tension, etc? Thanks for any help!

[@harryrogers]

Hi Jeff...this might help or at least rule out... kzbin.info/www/bejne/rZ7GoplvmMd2rJY