Chinese leather shoe patching machine. Junk or Jewel?

[@HNXMedia]

Wow! Finally a video about this machine that was properly filmed, in focus and no nonsense. Absolute perfection!

[@ChucksMagic]

Thanks for the comment, glad you enjoyed the video!

[@jakeylakey619]

I came to say the same thing. My complete sentiments.

[@gergemall]

Love your stitches too.

[@gergemall]

@@jakeylakey619exactly

[@electricsmartpainting7862]

​@@ChucksMagic good video i was about to trash my new one .now it will work

[@AdamusPrime76]

Damn man, THIS is how you do an instructional video! Thank you!

[@ChuckPeters-hv4qq]

Glad you enjoyed the video!

[@skullfracture2]

I got lucky and received one that worked great straight out of the box. Minimal manufacturing errors, even a nice green enamel on the frame. Did an entire a cut-and-sew floor carpet on my 75 Land Cruiser with it. Also, stitched some cushions for a chair I build.

[@John-d7p]

You must be livin' right.😜

[@dennisguajardo1940]

Thank you for great instructions. You can always use loctite on the wheel nut with your lock washer to keep nut from backing out.

[@sunshinedancer5509]

Thanks so much for this information. I'm a "beginner tinkerer" and appreciate the suggestions. I had to return mine, but I'm trying again this coming week.

[@plakor6133]

I have mine permanently set up on a bench in my shop. I use it for all kinds of odd little attaching/sewing jobs. It's a great tool. Yes, a little finicky sometimes, but usually it works fine. I did wind up modifying the thread feed so the thread feeds off a large spool freely.

[@aviantileathersandfurs9596]

its junk tons of machines just like this way better quality for a little bit more money! you can keep a consew machine like this for lifetimes! this machine is crap

[@bigchrisrogers]

I believe this to be the best video on KZbin about this machine. It is so well thought out, shot, edited and commented. No waffle, excellent clear images, accurate and precise information. Well done Sir! Thank you.

[@RobertWardJones]

I'd like to chime in with feedback regarding needing to make a stand for the machine. The tripod works! I see so many videos where the new owner just assumes the tripod won't work without trying it, but it works great! For me i needed to level machine using a soup can under one of the legs and a small tuna can under another leg to get it all level. It works well for doing repairs on a sailboat to repair sails, checking (fixing) frayed ropes and other projects all without needing power or having to fully remove the sail. Just sew it on deck while sitting on an overturned bucket. Very convenient! I used a plastic mayo jar lid to support a large thread cone and used a metal straw (a tube) to extend the shaft for the thread spool holder for the large spool.

[@LarrySmith1437]

Now that's a "can"do attitude

[@John-d7p]

I'd actually pay to see that video. Tossed mine and have never looked back.

[@allynhowell2006]

Great video, can't get over the pedestal & mirror finish metal caught my attention.

[@LarrySmith1437]

Sir, you have given me the confidence to venture out on the shaky limb that are these machines.

[@fmphotooffice5513]

Multimedia review: Essentially 3 types of machinery or how-to video makers: 1. Some guy trying to hold their phone with one hand and work with the other. 2. Some guy cursing at their auto-focus until they get a half-baked but usable shot of the procedure. 3. The smart guy who simply edits in STILL PICTURES of critical details to make the video excellent and a great reference guide. Well done. The machine looks like a tinkerer's next project and potentially a useful implement to get work done for you.

[@davefarnsworth3020]

Great video. I just recently got one of those contraptions, and liked it so much I immediately hit the buy again button on eBay. Set the second machine up to use the commercial #20 135x17 and 135x16 needles from my Sailrite. Ordered some #22, and#23 needles to try with some 207 thread and got it working with the #22. The #23 needles won't fit down through the channel, but I think with a little massage for my Dremel I can get it to work. I did deburr the holes in the shuttle and ran the 207 thread over the top of the shuttle tension spring. Used both upper tension assemblies

[@ChucksMagic]

Great, glad you like yours so much! I get to like mine more and more each day. It really is a fantastic little machine if you put some effort into it.

[@POULPY47]

Lucky you are ! The frame is fully painted with a cool green . Very informative vidéo . Thanks for sharing !

[@VitalityMassage]

Everything about his video is golden! The intro overview of what we're all thinking is the best! I knew I'd come to the right place after about one minute! Then the recommendation of the group on Facebook at the end was GREAT and everything in between. Excellent man. Thanks.

[@ChucksMagic]

@Vitality Massage Thanks for the compliment! Glad you liked the video!

[@joaquinguillen3731]

Excellent job on the video all my questions were answered especially the clocking and timing thank you

[@danielirvine7468]

Thank you sir for you’re time and sharing this vid to the leather crafters A lot of work went in to this filming and editing and you trialing the machine… Just wanted to let you know I appreciate you Have a great weekend.

[@kenh8979]

You surely did a really NICE job with the video editing, and with the info for the machine also. A couple of things I'd mention. If you drill a small 3/32" hole in the side of the bobbin it makes threading easier. Many folks have done that. The question about "what machine did you get", might have been referring to the number of bearings. The original (like I have) is a 4 bearing machine, then the 8 bearing came out. Now there is a 10 bearing machine. I'm not really sure the extra bearings do all that much, but they're cheap so why not? Again, GREAT job on the video.

[@ChucksMagic]

@Ken H Thanks, I enjoyed putting the video together. Not sure if the added bearings are a plus or not. If I find I need another one I might have to try a 10 bearing, although mine runs pretty smooth. I haven't found a hole in the bobbin to be necessary, I just hold the thread on the edge of the bobbin with my thumb and take a few turns on the spool to lock it down before putting the bobbin on the winder. I know my regular sewing machine bobbins have holes, but I really haven't missed them. With my eyesight, trying to hit a hole in the bobbin with the end of the thread might be tough these days. I can hold and wrap with my eyes closed. One thing I see a lot of and failed to mention in the video is folks putting a large spool of thread directly on the machine which causes a lot of problems. If your using large spools it should be fed using a thread holder and can be had on amazon for around 10 bucks. Anyway, thanks for the comment!

[@jimmy_jamesjams_a_lot4171]

THANK YOU!! Just received mine tonight and I’ll be troubleshooting it tomorrow until I’ll be trying her out, so your video you’ve uploaded is the perfect thing to watch as I fall asleep. When I lifted that bobbin cover up and I saw the shuttle area I was appalled. So much tiny gritty machine shrapnel and rust, despite the oil that was causing that crud to stick to everything!! I am so stoked and 1000x more confident in my ability to set this up now, all THANKS TO YOU!! ‘God bless you’ to you and yours!!

[@patrickoliversch]

Thank you, you rescued my little machine from the the back shelf - I had given -up :)

[@anarchytelevision8445]

Thanks for making the video I also have one of these machines and I find it user friendly and easily modifiable and customizable. I'm always interested in seeing what people have done to their machines to modify or customize it. And interested in seeing what they are making with it. I've made a couple of videos showing what I've done to my machine, thanks again. 😊

[@John-d7p]

Perfect Intro. Although, it will never be a jewel, but it will be functional. unless your that guy over in the UK, who completely rebuilt his, and now has a machine that looks and functions like a vintage 1800's British locomotive. Belongs in an Industrial Art musuem.

[@MiguelVelazquez1167]

Thank you. The best and simple explanation of this machine. Again thank you

[@cesarortiz2143]

Nice presentation and simple block of instructions. I’ve been thinking of getting one. Something simple to have in the workbench tool box.

[@ericblumenau2941]

Your video is fantastic. Just the right amount of context and detail. I'm eyeing one of these and definitely feel comfortable enough with the issues and solutions you propose. Thanks!

[@richardaraujo3492]

Just found this, EXCELLENT video and instruction. Thank you for making this. It's the clearest and most succinct video I've found on this machine, which I've been hesitant to buy.

[@ChucksMagic]

Glad it was helpful!

[@Awannabestylist]

Very well-done. I have one of these machines, and I just reviewed your video again as a refresher.

[@arailway8809]

This has been a wonderful tutorial. Your pressure foot looks different from mine, besides the notch for thicker material. Thank you very much.

[@thermion7869]

I have watched numerous videos on setting up this machine, but this is the best by far!

[@ChucksMagic]

Wow, thanks!

[@CIRCLEDARK]

The first minute of this video might be the most accurate thing I've heard in any YT video. If someone asked where I am with sewing leather goods, I would say what you said word-for-word.

[@ChuckPeters-hv4qq]

Hey thanks for taking the time to leave a comment and I'm glad your liked the intro!

[@LanceMcGrew]

As I watched - could not help but think this o'boy was either a machinist or mechanic based on precise details and how he properly describes the machine parts.

[@bigchrisrogers]

Yes, I thought so, and perhaps and educator as well, maybe an engineering college or similar.

[@rawpraisehorn5716]

Jewel ---, have had one for about 5 years , have used it many times and really like it. Made lots of stuff with it. To make getting the hang of it easier, watch some of the YT videos. You don’t need to do any of the fancy filing and cleaning some recommended. You can even use the three little leg stand that comes with it . I used mine with the flimsy stand for about a year , it does work. By the way , this is probably the best video on this machine yet, good job!

[@TheDukie54]

I've owned mine for about 5 or 6 years. I did the mod to be able to use power, or not if you want. Once I learned how to use it, it works fine for the price.

[@marionkelton3670]

Thank you so much. I just saw this on TEMU for $89. You have given me the incentive to purchase.. thank you

[@leozacic]

If everyone was as detailed as you are we’d be experts in no time, thanks for your input and knowledge on this…

[@Steelplayer59]

Great video! Wish I’d have seen your video when I first got my machine! I’ve since added a gear motor and foot switch. Sewed lots of things with this machine besides leather, including making upholstery such as seats for tractors and 4-wheelers. I even patched a pair of my shoes, lol!

[@debslovingstitches]

Great idea

[@Steelplayer59]

​@@debslovingstitches Thank you! Still much to learn! 😂

[@Biokemist-o3k]

Chuck you are amazing my friend!! I would like to customize some of my sneakers and other items . You absolutely read my mind with your explanation of how and why I started looking for a sewing machine. I am a chemical engineer by education however I want to change my image. I found some Louis Vuitton leather and I am planning on making a set of sneaks for myself. The sewing machines are ridiculous expensive so I stopped looking. I was watching a couple on Ebay and all of a sudden a guy offers me one for a price I could not turn away. It will be here in a couple days. Just awesome!!!!

[@sworntattoo498]

Got mine yesterday! Thank you so much for this information. Liked and subscribed!

[@ChucksMagic]

Glad I could help! Thanks!

[@2sambell]

Great video on the shoe patcher machine. I viewed many videos on the shoe patcher but yours by far is the best!!!

[@ChucksMagic]

Hey thanks, I appreciate the compliment!

[@smcewen7]

Awesome! I make take back the Heavy Duty Singer I just bought and get one of these.

[@quentinhilpert9606]

I filed my bobbin case bottom edge rounded. Bobbin case (my definition) is the thing that holds the thread spool. The rounded edge lets the thread slip under the bobbin between the rotator thingy (the thing that holds the bobbin case with small gear) and bobbin. Most machines the thread slips over the bobbin.

[@10WDirty]

This is a life saver. Thank you!

[@nelsod76]

Well done sir. Succinct well produced content. Extremely useful. I fit the profile you describe at the beginning and will be buying one of these units. I am trying to figure out thread and needles. Largest thread and needle it’s capable of. I would use it to mend and modify various items. Example- recently I used my hand stitching awl to add a webbed nylon loop on my son’s heavy duty “badger” nylon tool belt and now need to restitch a leather tape measure holder. Thankyou thankyou

[@NahtShure]

This video is enormously helpful! Thank you!

[@earlelzy9975]

I want to thank you for you explanation of this machine. I am a DIYer and michanicly inclined and I think I could use this machine to help me with my leather projects because I hand stich all of my projects as a new leather crafter. I have seen several videos of this machine to help me decide to get it or not.

[@ChucksMagic]

@Earl Elzy I'm glad you liked the video. I started out hand stitching all my leather projects and if you've ever hand stitched a belt you will love this machine once you get it set up right.

[@badeduun1650]

Your thorough video is a hidden jewel; to the point with tips how to setup and troubleshoot. Easy subscribe, many thanks.

[@ChucksMagic]

Hey thanks! I appreciate you taking the time to comment and for subscribing

[@peterkou2682]

It is a work of art, inspired by function , worthy of display with occasional use. More color choice might be good.

[@janvanassen7358]

That is a cool machine, cheap and works fine . I'm living in Brazil and will started to work with leather, maby is this machine a option because every other machine is real expensive. Tanks YOU to show the way or many other people 👍👍👍👍👍

[@ChucksMagic]

@jan vanassen Yes, like I say in the video, if you're mechanically inclined and willing to put in the effort to fine tune this machine, it can surely be a less expensive option for a leather sewing machine. There is a link in the description for the exact machine I purchased. Thanks for taking the time to leave a comment! Good luck!

[@cr-us9ch]

Very good intro and spot on.

[@allexramsey9015]

Extremely clear and concise explanation. Thank you. 👏❤️👌👍

[@thomashverring9484]

What an absolutely excellent video! Thank you!

[@nnordin384]

My machine didn't come with the wire for feeding the thread. .030 or .035 Mig wire works well for this. Also had the mentioned issue with the nut on the crank handle backing off. Drilled and tapped the nut for a setscrew and haven't had to mess with it since.

[@BuffaloBilagaana]

Rather than using a dremel on the presser foot, could you have just used a longer needle for the thicker leather?

[@ChucksMagic]

I don't think so. The machine is designed for HAx1 / 15x1 needles. If you were to use a longer needle it would change the timing.

[@knoptop]

Great Video! Thanks!

[@zeeshanhameed3289]

Very well explained 🤝🏽 thanks alot

[@buddyhutchins3782]

Thanks for a very well done set of instructions. Anaco, Vzla,

[@Commongoodleathercraft]

Fantastic video!! Thank you so much for this very detailed video

[@blaykjord6171]

good tip, idk if it affects leather. But take a lighter to end threads!

[@ChucksMagic]

It does work , just have to be careful not to scorch the leather.

[@jonm2522]

After watching this video, I am gamne to try one of these machines, great instructions mate well done. Where do you recommend to get one.

[@larryshin7086]

Hi, what thread do you recommend? Thank you!

[@ChucksMagic]

I like #69, anything heavier can be used, but is a little harder to work with.

[@Zippoking1969]

Great video fella, very helpful, cheers

[@ChucksMagic]

Glad it helped

[@Peekagroove]

Thanks for this Chuck!!

[@ChucksMagic]

Glad you found it useful !

[@rockyreynolds4027]

Best how to video I’ve ever seen thank you sir you earned a subscribe

[@ChucksMagic]

Thanks for the sub!

[@Ms_AP_]

What size bobbin does it take? You should be able to find additional bobbins so you could load multiples to have ready or to have different colors loaded up ready to go

[@rafaelalarcon8299]

Great video very well done thank you

[@gergemall]

Thank you Chuck .😊😊

[@ChucksMagic]

@JON Gergeceff No problem, you're certainly welcome and thanks for taking the time to comment!

[@jamesfargo8574]

Awesome review and tutorial...love the base you made, that's the best I've seen!

[@ChucksMagic]

@James Fargo Glad you enjoyed the video and yeah, I really like the stand I made also!

[@abelvillarreal6488]

Excellent video. I love my shoe patcher, and have learned a great deal about fine tuning this very versatile machine. Thank you.

[@ChucksMagic]

Glad you liked the video! Thanks for taking the time to stop by and comment!

[@johnnynephrite6147]

When I lived in China, there was a guy with one of these on the street corner. He saved me lots of time and money on shoe repairs. He'd fix my shoes right on the spot in a few minutes and for 20-30 rmb.

[@bostongoats1784]

thank you sir, God blesss you.

[@stevenjordan6389]

Very well done video.Thank you.

[@ChucksMagic]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@kenburke8302]

Please share which model/manufacturer this is. Very helpful, thanks!

[@briankesslerpresents7759]

Such a great video on so many levels. Thank you for your mind and heart. I learned a lot. And mine is staring me in the face waiting to be set up. Today is the day. Thanks !!

[@ChucksMagic]

@Brian Kessler Presents Glad you enjoyed the video! Good luck with your set-up. Take your time and enjoy the process!

[@holisticveterans6682]

Best vid online! I’m having trouble breaking thread when trying to back stitch… any advice? Thanks so much

[@ChucksMagic]

@Holistic Veterans Usually if you're breaking thread it's from too much tension either on your bobbin or top thread. Strange if it's just while back stitching. I suggest you pose your question on the Chinese Leather Shoe Patcher group, there's a link in the description. There's folks on there that have a lot of experience with this machine. Thanks for the comment and good luck with your problem!

[@InspiralJez]

awesome video, thank you!

[@orinaker2111]

Where can I order parts for my ironwall machine

[@ChucksMagic]

Unfortunately there are not many sources for parts. www.bantamsaddletack.com/ has a few items. You could try posting on the chinese shoe patcher group on facebook. Someone might have a machine they are parting out (link in description). Or some buy a second machine just for parts. Hope you find what you need!

[@ArjunMahendran-o6w]

Complete beginner and getting this set up…does the bobbin thread connect to the needle thread or is it two separate spools?

[@komrad40]

Thanks a lot ❤

[@waynesinclairr7721]

Excellent video angles, thx

[@ChucksMagic]

Glad you enjoyed!

[@angelahatfield5683]

Can this machine zigzag? Is it worth screwing to a table for stationary use?

[@randolphchappel6098]

Are they all the same machine that I see on Amazon? They’re all similar but a little different in price.

[@ChucksMagic]

Most are the same, some have more bearing in them. The coloured pea model has the additional bearings and is a little more expensive. amzn.to/3rB2Pyq

[@centerspike6463]

Great video

[@ChucksMagic]

Thanks!

[@thermion7869]

Only Just found this video, its the best.

[@ChucksMagic]

Glad it was helpful!

[@ZulfiqarAli-q1u]

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[@TheAwesomeSam]

great video! if i want to buy extra bobbins for this machine, what size bobbins should I buy?

[@ChucksMagic]

Hey, Glad you liked it! I think there is only one size bobbin that will fit. I get mine from www.bantamsaddletack.com/ There $4.75 for a pack of 5. Thanks for taking the time to comment!

[@jmuraidajr]

I'm going the buy one of these machines, I'm not made of money and retried. I make holsters on the side using 7-8 oz. the leather. I would like to know want is the thickest tread I can use is and what size nail do I need to buy? Anything you can give me would be helpful! I'm tired of saddle stitching and it's a killer on the finger.

[@rosadeldesierto1435]

Puede dar el link de parche de zapatos de cuero de china

[@richj5762]

Thanks, for this video, well made.

[@negrueugen7055]

Thanks man

[@ChucksMagic]

No problem

[@TexasEdition]

Do you find it difficult trying to control the work wtih one hand?

[@ChucksMagic]

It's a little cumbersome, but I manage. Some have added motors to the machine so they can be advanced by a foot switch leaving you with both hands free. Hope this helps!

[@sophiafisher7935]

Can you adjust the presser foot tension?

[@LarrySnyderIII]

which direction are you turning the crank to start

[@JoeEcho1429]

Do you know What the largest thread you can use on this machine?

[@ChucksMagic]

Hey Joe, sorry that's not something I done much experimenting with, so I'm not the one to ask. I would suggest you ask your question on the facebook group for this machine: facebook.com/groups/1646031288779869/ These guy can tell you exactly what you want to know!

[@JoeEcho1429]

@@ChucksMagic thanks I just did

[@k9road]

...Great demo, thank you so much...

[@ChucksMagic]

@k9road You're welcome, glad I could help!

[@k9road]

@@ChucksMagic... your video convinced me to order one from amazon 😊...always wanted something to do canvas and leather ...thanx again...

[@georgegower3136]

That intro is exactly my jurney of discovery. word. for. word!

[@ChucksMagic]

Yeah, I was just relaying my experience with the process. Hope I helped you out!

[@larrywithrow5876]

Excellent informative video Chuck. One of the best I’ve seen out there, n I’ve seen lots. Lol Hope to get mine up n running soon. Thanks for your expertise.👊 p.s. I’ve also subscribed.

[@ChucksMagic]

@Larry Withrow Thanks for the kind words and for the sub. I really appreciate it!

[@Youtuberkit7]

Sir I’m planning to do DIY sandal. Is this can do on webbing stitching? Thanks for great reviews

[@bigchrisrogers]

Yes

[@macgyver2417]

Great ,informative video. Thanks

[@ChucksMagic]

Glad you enjoyed!

[@dragonclaw88]

Awesome vid!

[@robertchall8576]

That's some good info thanks.

[@ChucksMagic]

@Robert C Hall Glad you enjoyed the video and thanks for taking the time to comment!

[@SasquatchLeatherworks123]

Awesome thanks 😊

[@ChucksMagic]

@G Glad you liked!

[@MrWoignier]

thanx a lot.

[@ChucksMagic]

Most welcome!