Ten Types of Empathy (Deep Dive, Chapter 3)

[@rileysmiley2521]

I'm barely grasping Empathy as a whole and you tell me there's 10 TYPES!? oh lord...

[@miamcgee9476]

Already loving this chapter of the deep dive! I always appreciate how much you try to pin down and define these murky and broad constructs As a psychology student it helps me learn how to think about things more deeply. Thank you for the continuous wisdom!

[@Laurie-i3v]

I really appreciate this deep dive. I’m very very high in somatic empathy (and high in vicarious empathy). And yes, I think it means that I have a high number of mirror neurons. I taught ballet and yoga for many years and used somatic empathy to guide my corrections (that’s what it’s called in ballet) or adjustments (the name in yoga) to improve form. It took me a long time to realize that I was synchronizing my breathing and posture automatically to mirror others. I consider this a strength for teaching. It took me a long time to gain some control over this because it’s subconscious. I used to have an aching back after teaching a private yoga session to someone experiencing back pain. It took me awhile to realize that it was their pain that my body was mimicking.

[@TrentYakle]

Love your take on this, I broke down empathy into emotional and cognitive when I noticed the contrast between a lot people would call themselves 'empaths' havine emotional reactions of empathy buy not really understanding the person they are empathizing with and myself being very analytical and caring a lot about really understanding people. Love how nuanced you get

[@salomealhusami594]

Thank you for making this deep dive at least accessible to the public and not only available to patrons or KZbin members. Appreciated.

[@Tomiswizard]

A few of the deep dives are public 😊 I couldn’t afford to be a member for like… god, what, 10 years? And as a casual listener I didn’t run out of content to listen to. There is a ton ❤ if you use Spotify, PiS is there too.

[@Transform108]

Excellent overview. So much of our cultural expectations come from expecting certain degrees of empathy from each other and making it a moral imperative to do so. It gets thrown around, it gets abused, creates false selves even. See it laden through philosophy too in the last 200 years. Differentiating these types I think is crucial for uplifting consciousness. Well done but it in every high school, collegiate first year seminar.

[@Phoenix333Rising]

I have a few minor quibbles with some of your distinctions, but do agree with most of it. Very interesting to think about in any case, thank you.

[@bleepbloop4826]

This is so interesting! I think I have a better understanding of the different types of empathy now. I remember instances in my childhood where I was given a display of empathy (like an adult pouting at me while I'm crying when I was 4ish) or other performative acts of empathy and I remember being instantly filled with rage because I felt like I was being mocked rather than empathized with. I also think my background empathy might be higher than average and it causes me to make a lot of excuses for others and to always be thinking of someone's bad behavior as a symptom of a much bigger picture (i.e., maybe they have trauma or are going through a tough time in life). It can be a little exhausting and sometimes I wish I could just stop speculating and take interactions for what they are, and not feel bad if I feel upset or angry at a person who did something bad to me.

[@sansarrra]

Yey, more deep dives! ❤

[@davl7384]

A table at the end would have been helpful, with how often they where restructured, it's easy to lose track of what's where. Just a very brief visualisation would have been very helpful with that.

[@lkzoem]

Can you share your study on difficult moments? So so curious

[@user-rs1wc9qs3n]

Love this breakdown. Any tips for limiting vicarious empathy or turning it into other more detached empathies? Background empathy is such a useful thing to know as well. What you said about someone with a distorted perception directing that emotion at you was so helpful. I have a friend with cptsd that is often dysregulated and I get caught in the crossfire so I've been trying to figure out how to navigate those interactions so if you have any advice for that as well. I've been thinking maybe detachment in a mindful way might help me for more but I tend to get compassion fatigue from listening to all their trauma

[@signsthatscream]

People who are in sales for example in their own business, don't gain by selling "ice to Eskimos". This might be a different thing as opposed to a kid's first job working in a store. People in Sales long term have to have that bracketing ability you mentioned. I often wonder if most relationships are lopsided for someone who is fairly intelligent and has sales ability. We can give to people just by showing up but we aren't filled, only drained from typical chatty activities. A lot of people are swallowed up in their fears, insecurities, and lack of listening skills. This explains polarization problems in modern politics?

[@Tomiswizard]

Oooh, okay this is neat. I’m going to give it two listen throughs. I’m always jumping back and forth between wondering if I have impaired empathy, or like ??? way over active empathy? It’s always been a question in my mind because I can lie very easily and can play the evil roles in TTRPG or video games- while my husband and friends are genuinely bothered trying to play evil routes. (Like in BG3) But meanwhile I recall very embarrassingly sobbing nonstop while at the zoo because a young lady I never met died intentionally that day and I couldn’t stop thinking about how sad she must have been. So maybe I just display certain forms of empathy and not so much others. Humans are so odd.. I love learning about all of this. ❤

[@AurorasWindow]

I think I experience vicarious empathy, which feel very uncomfortable and I don’t want to feel and absorb other people’s emotions, so I act cold and pretend I don’t feel anything while I’m experiencing intense physical and emotional responses to other people’s issues. I also tend to not want to get involved with people because I can’t deal with the emotional load of their emotions. I don’t know if that makes sense.

[@Tomiswizard]

@ I think that makes sense to me! Honestly I think I operate similarly? I do love people dearly, but I notice I disappear if anyone tries to get to know me… and I think it’s that I’m too taxed and tired to hold their emotions. (Not that I am expected to do that by them) It’s hard, for sure. I hope you’re doing well out there and have just the amount of people around that you want. 🤍

[@kmojo42]

I feel it😊

[@AurorasWindow]

I’ll never understand why people like odd numbers, especially odd prime numbers, like 11. My child is the same, his favorite number is 7. It just doesn’t feel right 😅 my favorite number is 16. It’s even and a perfect multiple of 2. Anyways, that’s my number rant 🤣 I guess I don’t have number empathy 🤣🤣🤣 but I guess I do experience vicarious empathy, which often times I don’t even want to feel. Obviously, not about number preferences.

[@AurorasWindow]

So I’m glad you made up your mind and ended up with an even beautiful number like 10

[@Phoenix333Rising]

You may be interested to know that in numerology, [most] double digit numbers get added together to reduce them down to a single digit, so 16 is 1+6 so it counts as 7, same as your son's favourite number after all!

[@AurorasWindow]

@ ah interesting!

[@Phoenix333Rising]

@@AurorasWindow love your username btw, may i ask why you chose it? I love auroras so much! Never seen one in person [yet] though, have you? Also i used to love paper crafting too, (mainly greetings cards and origami).

[@AurorasWindow]

@ it’s a long story. But basically, when I was a teenager, I was obsessed with a song called “Aurora” by Italian singer Eros Ramazotti. In my 20s I adopted the name Aurora as my pen name for my poetry. The theme of auroras as a new beginning (a new day) came up often in my poetry. Eventually, Aurora became my artistic/creative alter ego of sorts. I work in science, so having my job and my other interests separate helps me a lot! The window part is because I’m letting people look through my window to see my creative self. Hope that made sense lol And no, I have never seen an aurora, but it’s definitely a dream of mine

[@philparisi9175]

I think you’re confusing a lot of stuff or making it more because the way you’re using the terms are entirely new in different than any other person with psychology. Sympathy simply means you’ve been through what someone’s been through so you understand their feelings empathy means you may not have been through what they’ve been through, but you can imagine how they feel that’s really it

[@RaymondJiang444]

From what I've observed, the common usage of both terms has usually been the other way around. Although based on what he talked about in this episode, it's more just that sympathy itself is a type of empathy.

[@HermioneGLuna1]

thank you for bringing accessible education to us all! i have my bachelor's in psychology and want to pursue it further but life hasn't gone that way yet. your videos allow me to continue learning without needing to erupt my whole life for it. i appreciate you. THANK YOU 🫶