Ten Years Later: The HPV Vaccine is Still Incredible & Lifesaving

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[@oisinbrogan]

Congrats to Healthcare Triage for being around long enough to report on a call to wait for more longterm data, and then following up with reporting on that data becoming available!

[@uadialesandra]

Thanks so much *MR OBALAR* on KZbin for curing me from Herpes, keep saving lives❤..

[@TheSilverVixen]

I'm 36, was one of that "up to 20%" whom didn't have the infection clear up. I had type 16. I was about 18 or 19 when the vaccine started to be pushed, and I wish I had gotten it sooner cause I became sexually active at 16 and having that vaccine prior to that could have saved me TEN YEARS of suffering through biopsies/colposcopies and treatments that ultimately did not work to rid my body of the virus. Ultimately had a hysterectomy in 2022 because it was starting to turn into cancer.

[@MMAdiehardfan]

Even if you had the vaccine he doesn’t guarantee I had a friend go got vaccinated prior to being sexually actively and still got 16 and 18 and had a hysterectomy

[@uadialesandra]

Thanks so much *MR OBALAR* on KZbin for curing me from Herpes, keep saving lives❤..

[@syddlinden8966]

As an ace person who ISNT sexually active it was worth it to get the hov vax just for how it helped lessen a case of plantar warts i had a few years later. Horrid, painful things, warts. Anything to kick them is a blessing.

[@syddlinden8966]

Also please be more clear that ALL warts are caused by different forms of hpv. There is a lot of misunderstanding that it is EXCLUSIVELY an sti.

[@ashcla]

@@syddlinden8966 Equally important to note though is that HPV vaccines don't protect against all forms of HPV. The original Gardasil only targeted 4 types of HPV, all of which are sexually transmitted. Even the newer Gardasil-9 only targets 9 strains of HPV.

[@AandM8]

@@ashclathe video did make that clear. He said there are 200 strains of HPV. But not all result in cancer. The vaccine targets the 9 strains that are the cause cancer.

[@uadialesandra]

Thanks so much *MR OBALAR* on KZbin for curing me from Herpes, keep saving lives❤..

[@kaririedman3721]

Got the first version back in high school, but then my doc recommended i get the updated version a few years back, since it covered more strains. Also, i know a man that got throat cancer from HPV, so this vax really should be pushed on all young folks, regardless of sex.

[@uadialesandra]

Thanks so much *MR OBALAR* on KZbin for curing me from Herpes, keep saving lives❤..

[@badraster7909]

I’m in my mid-twenties and got the earlier Gardasil as a child, but still ended up with an abnormal pap and resulting colposcopy a couple years ago. Since then I’ve had normal pap results so I’m hoping I cleared it if I did have HPV. I’m really grateful for the vaccine, but I wish there was more clear information out there about HPV, pap results, and the procedures surrounding detection/treatment. It was really scary for me and I’m still kind of confused and scared even now. I didn’t get proper post-colposcopy information from my busy doctor and was terrified bc of all the bleeding, and I still don’t even know if I was officially positive for HPV bc they either didn’t test that directly or didn’t communicate about it effectively.

[@uadialesandra]

Thanks so much *MR OBALAR* on KZbin for curing me from Herpes, keep saving lives❤…

[@suchnothing]

They started giving it out at schools where I live the year immediately after me, so I missed it by literally one year. I was so mad lol. I'm now in my mid-30s and just getting it for the first time, because this is the first time in my life I've been able to afford it. Considering I live in Canada, where cervical cancer treatment would be fully covered and VERY expensive for the government, it's really surprising to me that they don't subsidize the vaccine more for adults who weren't able to get one for free as a kid. 3 doses at $250 a pop prices out A LOT of people from getting it.

[@avsgriffy]

I had cervical cancer due to HPV when I was 17-21. The vaccine released the next year and my family doctor insisted I get it when I was 26.

[@suchnothing]

@avsgriffy that's the worst timing 😭 glad you made it through. My grandma lost sisters and cousins to cervical cancer and was always very insistent that I get vaccinated. But you can't pay for a vaccine with money you don't have. Of course now that i can afford it, getting vaccinated was top of my list. Only one dose to go! I'm so glad kids are getting it in school, and I wish it was equally available for everyone.

[@avsgriffy]

@suchnothing I got it for free in Canada in 2011. I don't know if I got it through my benefits or not though.

[@ashcla]

I was in school when they were giving it out to girls but not to boys. I recently asked my doctor if he'd recommend it and he was like yeah for sure, but insurance wouldn't cover it. I got it anyways, happy to know I'm less likely to pass things around and also it might reduce my risk of oropharyngeal cancer 🤷‍♀️ I do recognize I'm very privileged for being able to drop $500 on it.

[@suchnothing]

@avsgriffy must have been through benefits. I've never been able to get it free. Only school age kids do. My current benefits plan covers a lot of it though so I'm actually getting it for way cheaper than i could before i got this job. Not all plans cover it, but some do!

[@swordfish1929]

I got my first HPV vaccine dose in 2007 aged 12, I remember lining up in the school gym with all the other girls in my year to get the jab and then spending the rest of the day dodging punches to the arm from the boys

[@tarody3953]

They should have been giving it to the boys too. If you have a son be sure he gets it.

[@suchnothing]

@tarody3953 AGREE. I never understood not vaccinating everyone. Just trying to cut corners and save money I guess 🙄 I know that only females with a cervix can get the cancer, but where do you think heterosexual women are getting the HPV from 🧐

[@uadialesandra]

Thanks so much *MR OBALAR* on KZbin for curing me from Herpes, keep saving lives❤..

[@JewishMusicToronto]

1:41 Congrats on the decade, plus, of great, approachable medical videos!

[@uadialesandra]

Thanks so much *MR OBALAR* on KZbin for curing me from Herpes, keep saving lives❤..

[@AlthenaLuna]

There's also a value to the risk reduction it provides to folks who *aren't* still young or not yet active/exposed. I'm asexual and 43, but I also have a history of cancers so my gyn was very on board when I brought up getting it - my first dose is this week.

[@uadialesandra]

Thanks so much *MR OBALAR* on KZbin for curing me from Herpes, keep saving lives❤..

[@Overonator]

Oh man how about some studies for the benefits to boys/men?

[@Amantducafe]

HPV does cause warts and even the cause in some forms of penile cancer. There is a Danish study following this too however the HPV main focus was on women due to the higher incidence rate compare to men.

[@lilac624]

Men are also advised to have hpv vaccines.They can fight against hpv-related cancers

[@uadialesandra]

Thanks so much *MR OBALAR* on KZbin for curing me from Herpes, keep saving lives❤..

[@uadialesandra]

Thanks so much *MR OBALAR* on KZbin for curing me from Herpes, keep saving lives❤…

[@punditgi]

Thanks for the video

[@anamorphicalan]

Amazing❤

[@kimberlydrennon4982]

HPV vaccine was very new when I got it and I grew up in a conservative town. I was in high school and not sexually active. My dad insisted I be secretive about getting the vaccine because there are ways other than sex to contract HPV and people don't always have sex consensually, but the local culture would have acted like it was a bad thing that I'd take a vaccine for a disease that is low risk to get if you are doing all the things the local culture says is right for young women to do. Still glad I got it. I have no idea if I've been exposed to HPV or not but I'm glad my dad took initiative back then

[@uadialesandra]

Thanks so much *MR OBALAR* on KZbin for curing me from Herpes, keep saving lives❤…

[@aldenconsolver3428]

Good job there doc.

[@uadialesandra]

Thanks so much *MR OBALAR* on KZbin for curing me from Herpes, keep saving lives❤…

[@elinmalikzade]

Hi Dr. Carroll. Thank you and your team for the effort put into making these videos. Do you accept video suggestions? What is the best email address to contact you on?

[@healthcaretriage]

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[@elinmalikzade]

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[@healthcaretriage]

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[@uadialesandra]

Thanks so much *MR OBALAR* on KZbin for curing me from Herpes, keep saving lives❤…

[@Lolalogo]

When that vaccine came out my mom immediately took me the Dr to get my first round. Thx mom!

[@uadialesandra]

Thanks so much *MR OBALAR* on KZbin for curing me from Herpes, keep saving lives❤…

[@kokitsunetora]

Sucks for me, only got the first dose because of a bad allergic reaction 😵

[@bd9743]

May I know what was the allergic reaction and how long after getting the vaccine?

[@kokitsunetora]

@@bd9743 I got the reaction within 5 minutes, and it was anaphylaxis. I didn't go into shock, but I was still really unwell

[@bd9743]

@@kokitsunetora I see. Here I am seeing eosinophilia with other symptoms within two weeks of vaccine administration.

[@uadialesandra]

Thanks so much *MR OBALAR* on KZbin for curing me from Herpes, keep saving lives❤…

[@thelandsavior402]

i was shocked i get genital warts even im virgin. Now i know.. It sucks!

[@uadialesandra]

Thanks so much *MR OBALAR* on KZbin for curing me from Herpes, keep saving lives❤..

[@thewitchhh_]

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[@tubebrocoli]

does hpv not stick around in men like it does in women?

[@qynoi42]

The CDC recommends boys get the HPV vaccine as well now, so I assume it sticks around in everyone.

[@talideon]

Women are most at risk from it, but men should still get vaccinated: it helps reduce group risk (you're less likely to pass it on) but even if that isn't a concern to you, it's a protection against getting warts of all kinds.

[@tubebrocoli]

@@talideon yup, i was asking to know if it's for herd immunity exclusively or if there's risks of cervical cancer to men as well.

[@rikwisselink-bijker]

​@@tubebrocoliSince males have no cervix, the messaging tends to focus on females (I'm doing my best to distinguish between sex and gender here). So just to repeat Talideon: anyone without a cervix will mostly see minor benefits and contribute to herd immunity. I suspect the number of F2M trans people is too small to have reliable statistics on whether gender-affirming surgery has a material impact here.

[@tarody3953]

​@@qynoi42Many throat cancers can be caused by HPV too. Boys should absolutely be getting this vaccine.

[@tokk3n-hj4xg]

what are the side effects?

[@suchnothing]

The same as they are for any vaccine. Mine made my arm a bit sore for 24 hrs or so, but thats about it. I also find the actual injection is a bit more painful than other vaccines I've had, like flu, covid, tetanus, etc. But it's still pretty manageable. Not too painful. In general, people could experience bruising at the injection site, fever, fatigue, all the usual vaccine stuff. And some people may have an allergic reaction, which is why you're asked to wait at the pharmacy for 15 min or so after getting your first dose.

[@chrissylouise3226]

Paralysis, nerve disorders, ovarian failure, among others

[@suchnothing]

@@chrissylouise3226 Those sounds scary, but they aren't "side effects" they're risks. A side effect is something you can reasonably expect to happen, like drowsiness with cold medication. Risks are more serious but usually rare outcomes. There are risks to literally every medication and procedure, including vaccines, but they don't get approved unless the benefits are greater than the potential risks. For example, developing the nerve disorder Guillian-Barre Syndrome due to the vaccine has happened to exactly one man ever (no women), out of the millions who have been vaccinated. Compare that to around 250 men in the U.S. who will die annually of HPV-caused penile cancer. So, one man has developed GBS from the HPV vaccine. Around 250 men will die every year from PENILE CANCER in the U.S. alone. Cervical cancer is the fourth-leading cause of cancer deaths for women, and 90% of those are caused by HPV. The benefits of avoiding HPV-caused cancer far outweigh the risks of the vaccine. The risks of the vaccine are higher for some people than for others, so it's a good idea to discuss your own risk level with a doctor or pharmacist before you get it. If you're at higher risk of being harmed by the vaccine, you shouldn't get. But the majority of us who aren't at high risk should be getting vaccinated to protect ourselves and also those who can't get it.

[@uadialesandra]

Thanks so much *MR OBALAR* on KZbin for curing me from Herpes, keep saving lives❤…

[@hereandnow3534]

Can this make Pap smears a thing of the past?

[@suchnothing]

Probably not, because there are other ways to get cervical cancer, and vaccines are never 100% effective. With cervical cancer, you often don't experience symptoms until it has become untreatable and deadly. So the only way to detect it early enough to treat it is to test regularly. However, it may help us shrink the pool of people who are considered high risk, so that most women can get away with testing later in life, and testing less often.

[@geoff5623]

My province now also funds at-home cervix self-screening tests for HPV, so pap smears will probably not be needed unless the self-screening test returns positive.

[@robprop4575]

If the vaccine came out in 2006, and we stop pap smears at age 65 (if and only if you are up to date on testing and have had all normal results in the recent past), we'll probably know when people who were 12 in 2006 turn 65. So, year 2059. And with the antivax movement, pap smears will probably always be a thing for at least some people.

[@splashmt99]

My daughters got these vaccines when they were due. None of their friends ever received the vaccine.

[@chrissylouise3226]

Their friends are making a good choice

[@splashmt99]

@@chrissylouise3226 risking cervical cancer instead of getting an extremely safe vaccine is only a good choice in opposite world.

[@VioletLife8]

Well said 🌹 people are suffering side effects and are worse than having HPV, men are the carriers in the first place. Also the HPV is not always giving cancers..most people don't even know that they have HPV and have a best life untill being old af. Not to disgrace HPV but the whole aspect is beginning to become a fear hype. Like they did with C o v i d. Men are the ones who spread HPV like wildfires. Let them investigate the private parts of men with this rather than all the trauma women get trough with colposcopie and biopsy and all LAB investigations on uterus parts etc.

[@VioletLife8]

* The side effects are more harmful than the (maybe and maybe not and maybe for some of the harmful strings!) cure... Just like c o v i d jab. The suffering of side effects and people not even knowing IF the jab helped in the first place is wild.

[@uadialesandra]

Thanks so much *MR OBALAR* on KZbin for curing me from Herpes, keep saving lives❤…

[@SlimThrull]

2:42 Not to be that guy but... How many women in the 12 to 13 year old range were vaccinated? It's fantastic news that none got cancer. But if the number of women immunized was small, one would expect that result. So the actual number of women who got vaccinated is *really* important to know here.

[@uadialesandra]

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[@chrissylouise3226]

What a load of crap

[@uadialesandra]

Thanks so much *MR OBALAR* on KZbin for curing me from Herpes, keep saving lives❤..

[@mrdonetx]

Love long-term studies do you? Didn't seem to love them that much when it came to the covid vaccine? You were all about get it, get it again, get it again, even though it had no long-term studies.

[@GHCMargarita]

Bro did any vaccines ever need dozens of years of studies before they get released? No and they changed the longevity of humans in an unimaginable way and were one of the biggest scientific blessing to society

[@legal040]

You must think yourself very smart, huh?

[@mrdonetx]

@@GHCMargarita depends are you talking about vaccines that use attenuated viruses that actually allow your immune system to make what it needs? Or are you talking about a strand of RNA that invades your immune system and tells it what to make? If you're talking about the ladder where you're putting in strands of RNA that force your immune cells to make something specific. I'd say there needs some long-term studiest before forcing everybody to take it.

[@mrdonetx]

@@legal040less I think and more people keep proving it.

[@GHCMargarita]

@@mrdonetx who are you to say that on what bases? You’re a laymen not a scientist you don’t even know what you’re talking about. Billions of people took the Covid vaccine of which there are regular and rna versions and we haven’t seen adverse reactions to it it’s been perfectly fine. How can you still be an anti vaxxer at this point you can’t be that delusional

[@Denise-ux4xd]

💉☠️

[@bobsilver3983]

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