TENDER RACK OVER OUTBOARDS | The Rudder

[@funda298]

Cracking idea! Exactly what I need. New boat delivery due April :)

[@TheRudder]

Good luck with delivery!

[@sandymckenzie6293]

Hi Damian, I am trying to get the measurement from one duck board to the other for the two bars so I can work out the base measurements for the four holes (removing the swim grab handle). I am struggling to get it accurate since the engines are in the way. Is this something you can share with me please? Huge thanks if you can?

[@TheRudder]

Sorry I have no idea. It is installed by the fabricator - Shine Stainless on the Gold Coast.

[@westmurphy6450]

Lets see a video heaving that dinghy on the rack. We have our on the roof, it's not the best with 63 lbs of inflatable fun, but it's out of the way. We keep the SUP racks and another SUP on the aft port rail. Good option while preserving visibility.

[@TheRudder]

Check out kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y4nHdJl9mdt0fNU you can see how easy it is to pull the tender out onto the rack. We don't have roof racks (at the moment).

[@dack9826]

How is it feel loading the dinghy onto the rack in the middle of the water by yourself? Is it easy? I'm asking because I know the dinghy weights at least 100 lbs without motor and it's bulky. Is that a one man job or you need a helper?

[@TheRudder]

Really is a two person job, not that heavy but just tricky to handle. Our tender is about 35kg (70 lbs) and we are just about to test another tender that is only 25kg (55lbs) with motor.

[@primozgricnik6408]

hello, how can you remove the engine covers for service and what is the height of the rack thank you

[@TheRudder]

The rack is 950mm off the duck board. The engines were serviced without removing the rack. Hope that helps

[@jimfederico910]

Fantastic solution - I'm looking to do the same in the Seattle, WA area. Do you have a suggestion on how I can buy or build a tender rack on my 895?

[@TheRudder]

Thanks Jim, I do know the fabricator here does ship overseas, but not sure of the cost- facebook.com/ShineStainless/ But we just approached them and they had a build ready to go and welded it up. About $3k AU.

[@jimconnor6346]

Hi a great solution and great video. Thanks for sharing all your fab content. Been looking at getting one made for my Antares 11. Just wondering though if you considered the option of designing a rack that enabled you the option to put the tender on upside down? If the horizontal bars were close enough together then they might just fit inside the dinghy between the tubes, and rest on the inside of the floor. I’m thinking of this design as it would enable the dinghy to sit lower on the rack when the engines are trimmed down, giving better visibility out the back when under way. Also means the dinghy could stow with bottom facing upwards reducing the chance of it filling up with rain. Downside is the slide out seat in the dinghy would have to be stowed elsewhere plus might be a bit of a faf getting dinghy onto rack. Just asking as considering this as a design option and keen to know your thoughts? Many thanks Jim

[@TheRudder]

Thanks Jim, we often store the tender upside down with the resting on the seat and the transom. Stops the tender from filling with water. It is a bit of a pain, we drag it up and then flip it on the rack. Maybe have a chat with the guys at Shine Stainless who did the design and see if it will work. Will have to watch out for the engine trim if the rack is inside the tender. Cheers

[@jimconnor6346]

@@TheRudder hi many thanks for your swift reply. Ok that’s great. Sadly won’t be able to use Shine as I’m based in SW England but am looking for someone locally to make one for me. I’ll share once I’ve had one made.

[@andreacolombosperoni1976]

Hi, I'm trying to have one built here in Italy, may I ask you what is the distance between the two orizzontal inox tube ? ( where you put the tender) Thanks for your videos!

[@TheRudder]

Hi Andres, Where are you in Italy? The tubes are 500mm apart and 1500mm long. Hope that helps

[@andreacolombosperoni1976]

@@TheRudder Hi, thank you very much for your reply ! Very useful. I live near Como lake but I have my 895 at the sea, near Portofino .

[@bernardgaudfrin7980]

@@andreacolombosperoni1976. Hi Andrea. have you found someone to carry out your project? if yes, could you tell me the price you were asked and the name of the company? Thank’s. Bernard

[@mae.1977]

Hi. Thanks for the video... its really a great solution... how much does it costs?

[@TheRudder]

Around $3k AUD. Shine Stainless Fabrication can make them up and send around the world. Exceptional value and quality.

[@mae.1977]

@@TheRudder thanks...

[@bernardgaudfrin7980]

hello. your idea is great. May I ask you why you made a rear angle to the stainless steel structure? isn't that a problem for the overall length of the boat? Do you see an error if we decrease the height of the set? Anyway congratulations. I will wait for your answers and do the same on my mf 895 in France. Cordially Bernard.

[@TheRudder]

Hi Bernard, the frame is swept back to allow for the beam width of your tender. Otherwise it will intrude into the cockpit space, especially if you put up canvas to protect the cockpit. photos.app.goo.gl/gVTnCDt5WTpiMYAc6 I guess it makes the boat a little longer but is that a problem? Just ensure you allow enough room for the engines to tilt if you lower the frame.

[@bernardgaudfrin7980]

@@TheRudder Thank you for your reply. Can you give us the angle of the inclination? (60°?) Have a good day .

[@TheRudder]

I didn't fabricate the rack but measuring it with my phone it is a 70° inclination. Hope that helps

[@bernardgaudfrin7980]

@@TheRudder yes, that's give help and permise me to ask for a price évaluation. Thank's.

[@TheRudder]

@@bernardgaudfrin7980I do know the fabricator here does ship overseas, but not sure of the cost- facebook.com/ShineStainless/ But we just approached them and they had a build ready to go and welded it up. About $3k AU.

[@pasqualepischetola4528]

How much does the overall length increase?

[@TheRudder]

It doesn't increase the length as the rack sits above the engines and doesn't hang further out.

[@pasqualepischetola4528]

​@@TheRudderFrom the video it looks like it protrudes beyond the engines so I was wondering how much it adds to the overall length

[@Yohoho365]

Loved, great solution! How much has this design affected the overall fuel consumption?

[@TheRudder]

Their is no notable difference at all.

[@johnpenson8801]

Many thanks for yet another excellent video. Great idea to build this gantry over the outboards to house the dinghy. Plus incorporating a place to hang the dinghy outboard. Am I right in thinking it is secured with four extended bolts that fit through the four holes on the swim platforms? I think you have cleverly used the existing holes on the starboard side ( after removing the existing grab rail). Then drilled new holes to match on the port side? I am very keen to try and build a similar unit. How much does it weigh please? It would be good to have a rough price in Australian dollars, but appreciate you might not want to give this. Sadly your builders are too far away for me to use! By the way what length is your dinghy? Mine is 2.5 metres so should fit OK. Thanks again for posting such interesting and informative videos and really look forward to seeing more. I really envy you a lovely long Aussie Summer ahead to enjoy your new boat. Great to see the green grass mat again. Hope they are both using it!

[@TheRudder]

Hi John, yes you are right about the holes. Two on the starboard side exist and two new holes on the port side. Our tender is 2.3m. sorry no idea how heavy it is but it is sturdy. Our tender is about 30kg (I think). It doesn't move even on the plane. It cost $3400au. We had quote out to $5500! Yes the green mat is a must!! Although there was an accident inside the other night we were out!!

[@johnpenson8801]

@@TheRudder Many thanks. Very helpful as always. I will keep you posted on progress with my new boat ( still long delays on orders in the U.K.) and will let you know if I can build a similar frame. Best regards and smooth sailings

[@Kuha.Channel]

@@johnpenson8801 hi John, as you said great video and exactly what I want to have fabricated, Thanks for the info Mr Rudder. have a new 895 on order from Morgan Marine in Brightlingsea Essex, scheduled for September 22 delivery, are you gonna fabricate the Rack yourself, or use a fabricator, I had a quote from Mr Stainless in Levington Marina Suffolk £1250+vat

[@johnpenson8801]

@@Kuha.Channel Thanks for the info and quote from your fabricator. I have asked for a quote from the fabricator in Lymington. I will let you know the result. Hope you get your boat OK in September 22. Mine is due in January 22. However still waiting to view a boat to look at Flexiteek decking. The boat was due in July 21 but still to arrive in Nov 21. Due to shortage of microchips.

[@Kuha.Channel]

@@johnpenson8801 See what price your fabricator comes back with, we may get a better deal if we order 2 at the same time? I've seen the flexi-teek, in my opinion, much better than the original teak

[@radomarkoja6152]

Hi, do you have any drawning for this inox rack that I can do it here in EU?

[@TheRudder]

Unfortunately no, the company Shine Stainless can send to the EU at very competitive prices. shinestainless.com.au/

[@radomarkoja6152]

@@TheRudder thank you for info. Have some more important questions… -i plan to buy suzuki 6hp with short leg…what if this serial rack may have to low tiding point of suzuki engine and it touch ground of outboards when not on dinghy? -what bottom of dinghy you sugest to buy due to easy load and unload it from the rack (plastic, air…ect)? -is it any wide dimensions of dinghy recomendation that it dont take to much space on the rack( in planing to buy lenght 1,8-2,2m and wide 1,45m)? Thank you and best whishes from Slovenia-EU

[@TheRudder]

The top of the tender engine bracket to the duck board is 700mm. The dealer should be able to help with that dimension. The rack is around 500mm wide. It can take a v hull style or cat style tender. We will be doing a video shortly with a takacat 2600.hope that helps

[@radomarkoja6152]

@@TheRudder what is takacat? what are its benefits?

[@TheRudder]

@@radomarkoja6152 It is a light weight tender. Video coming soon.

[@TheAlexmontefiore]

How do you mount the tender onto the racks?

[@TheRudder]

Fairly easy, it is not a heavy tender, one person pulls from one duck board and another person supports and lifts onto the rack. Could be a one person job with a simple pulley rachet

[@jonathancachia9630]

good idea, but any one has an idea to lift tender with the outboard too

[@TheRudder]

I have seen a tilt type system on KZbin from the states. I believe it keeps the outboard on. The only other systems I've seen are davit type setups that won't work with outboard. Not sure if that helps.

[@jonathancachia9630]

@@TheRudder if you have the link kindly share it , thanks