Tennis - World Team Tennis NTRP 4.0 Nationals Men's Singles

[@SHMEGMA9]

If you're the best 4.0 player aren't you just a 4.5?

[@samuelwalsh5822]

Well, bump yourself up... don't need to be told when to

[@joewong2235]

*mind blown*

[@raquethead5898]

looks like 4.0 to me

[@ObiWon1089]

Men want to play down a level women want to play up a level. Go figure

[@Seronns]

@@ObiWon1089 100% facts. These guys aren't true 4.0s. But thats what happens at nationals. I've been at the 4.5 and 5.0 level and at 4.5 at least half of every team was either current, or former collegiate players. And at 5.0, it was like all current college players with some former ITF guys in there too. Was great fun, but seriously ridiculous.

[@gabriellima2]

tennis is so amazing, almost all videos i watch on this sport, there is a wonderful scenario sorrounding it.

[@Radnally]

Sandbagging is alive and well. Well, at least this will put them up to 4.5.

[@picsesrising]

Radnally you are so right!

[@lkfrostad]

HAHAHA was thinking the same thing

[@chriswylie253]

Given the current state of rankings, its sandbagging, but this really should be what 4.0 tennis is. USTA 4.0 basically means ALL shots hit properly with consistency, directional control and use of pace and spin. Thats what these guys do. Above this, strategy and power start coming into play, which neither player really has. Neither comes to net, exposes weaknesses or any advanced skill, just very strong consistent strokes. Unfortunately 1.0-3.5 are just ignored levels, as its beneath everyones ego. Few tournaments for 3.0,etc. But there should be. 4.0 is every park hacks starting point. Ita a shame. 4.0 as it was designed should be something very special, which these guys are. Good match.

[@Bubbles99718]

@@chriswylie253 Good breakdown. As far as the lack of mobility goes that could be that vids always seem to slow things down.

[@wilsoch]

@@chriswylie253 I disagree that this is what 4.0 is supposed to be. Here are the definitions: 4.0 This player has dependable strokes, including directional intent, on both forehand and backhand sides on moderate shots, plus the ability to use lobs, overheads, approach shots and volleys with some success. This player occasionally forces errors when serving and teamwork in doubles is evident. 4.5 This player has begun to master the use of power and spins and is beginning to handle pace, has sound footwork, can control depth of shots, and is beginning to vary tactics according to opponents. This player can hit first serves with power and accuracy and place the second serve and is able to rush the net successfully. These players clearly have "begun to master the use of power and spins" and "control depth of shots." This is 4.5 tennis. Their serves are the only shots that lag behind a bit; both come over the side of the ball, no real kick serves.

[@android1617]

Say what you like about tight shirt man, you can't deny he's consistent as hell

[@williamyeh6925]

The guy in orange is a solid player. He does not have a typical modern game strokes, but he is not missing. He hits the ball with pace and know how to change up. if he beats 5.0 players 50% of the time, then he is 5.0 regardless of how he hits the ball. There is more than one way to hit a tennis ball.

[@my240sx2]

I’m 4.5 and I don’t think I could beat the guy in the orange. The only time he looked uncomfortable was when he came to net a couple times. So mixing in some drop shots, low slices, or short angles might be a good strategy against him. He has a pusher style of play but he was able to put away winners when he wanted to. Solid player, definitely 4.5.

[@chuckfriebe843]

If you return his serve flat and at his feet on the baseline, he wouldn't have a chance. Other guy just loops the returns. Such an easy target.

[@Dan-ff7xp]

He doesnt even have footworks or cannot even run lol

[@Z-Bone-e7j]

Disagree completely. Orange shirt has no mobility. Anytime he was forced to run, he either mishit the ball or just couldn't get to it. Not to mention he just pushed 90% of his shots which wouldn't work against the majority of 4.5 - 5.0 players. Hes a 4.0 player for sure.

[@bangmonsta]

@@Z-Bone-e7j "no mobility" is harsh, he's not moving fast but is definitely moving and returning balls. And from what I see, most of his returns land deeper than the service line, so they'll be harder to attack. He's not just pushing, he's constructing points with that 90% to poke for weakness/errors, and does attack with winners here and there.

[@AutoMotivatedTV]

Another disagree - He isn't a pusher - He bumped like one ball back - His technique is not quite where his opponents is - but he hits the ball hard enough

[@thaipham283]

Great play from both players. Very easy for other people to make stupid comments. Love the consistency

[@whuang03]

Someone get that guy a bigger shirt please... but these two should be at least 4.5 though.

[@chuckfriebe843]

Your tennis kit is supposed to fit, not hang off of you like you're wearing a garbage bag. This is not the 90s. Guys that go on court wearing big baggy basketball shorts and t-shirts that look like they're 3 sizes too big, look like shit.

[@askachim]

The guy in blue uses all this energy for the forehand for it to consistently land inside the service line

[@HonkyMonky]

When you hit the service line with a big top spin shot it rebounds super high at baseline you stupid, you have no clue

[@yoshikay8787]

I think the crowd noise is the reason I watched this thru!! Lol!!!! “Yeah Mustafa!!!!!”

[@ROrneli]

first of all, like every else says, blue shirt if 4.5 sand bagging it. Second of all Orange shirt foot faults like cray. Third , I can tell blue shirt plays tons of clay, by the amount of spin he puts on the ball, he needs to learn to play with more drive , vary his shots and pace and play the net a little more. Orange shirt is typical 4.0 nightmare, old but full of tricks

[@chuckfriebe843]

Doesn't mean he plays clay. It means he's imitating Rafa. Same racquet and if you asked he'd tell you. I see this all the time on hard courts.

[@hang-the-93]

Was looking around for some examples of levels playing since I have not played in 25 years and wanted to get a gauge for my level now, if these are 4.0 players I'll eat my strings, without sauce. Some very strong hitting.

[@Tennisfan4200]

Indeed, even more impressive to me is the consistency, especially Orange shirt

[@ivyaguas1250]

Both were sooooo gooood. Wish there was scores posted as well... 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽

[@KN-wv2ck]

Everyone needs to watch the ending. The orange Shirt (Robert?) won. Blue shirt (gustafa?) double faulted on the last point. For everyone saying that blue shirt is 4.5 sandbagging this is a prime example why pretty strokes isn't everything.

[@Sean-fn8bn]

Hits like a 4.5, movement and strategy is 3.0 lol.

[@drincmusic2769]

yeah, it's honestly very true they way that you put it.

[@drincmusic2769]

The old guy wasn't really thinking about recovery, and the young gun didn't think about taking advantage of that. also just the fact that they have to call the lines are probably part of the reason why they have to be so patient to hit some of these shots.

[@superg3962]

Looked great in warn ups but feet of lead in the game- why?

[@ianbuick8946]

@@superg3962 In tennis there are term called "grounded/un-grounded". If you're are grounded, you can hit a solid shot. Key point is to make opponent un-grounded (unbalance, on the move) and make mistake. So in warm up, both player play close to the mid and make less mistake.

[@superg3962]

@@ianbuick8946 Great- I have never heard of that term- thank you for the info!

[@JP-ne7xj]

This was shot in wide angle. It would help if the setting was in linear mode on the GoPro. Would make it more similar to TV.

[@lockemdownrecords]

Classic example young gun verses older consistency. I was a young top fifty state ranked junior at sixteen and ran up against a much older guy who let me swing for the fences on every shot. He goal was just keep it in play and I beat myself. Got exhausted, got frustrated made wayyy to many mistakes and he just got it back in play and beat me. The description says the final score was 6-1 for the orange shirt. First glance I was thinking blue shirt wasn't thinking about the marathon just the sprint. They are both great..

[@Remixable100]

yeah thought it'd be way closer than that after looking at the footage

[@parkercrossland410]

He had the issue I got stuck at earlier this year in a few matches: He wants to play "his game" rather than the game his opponent is bad at. My guy wanted to crush forehands and that was about it. Honestly that works against most 4.0's if you have the weapon, but as you start to face people who can deal with the pace it requires follow up offense.

[@digitalcommunist6335]

Blue has no concept of strategy lmao. He thinks crushing Nadal wannabe forehands in the middle is tennis! Other dude pretty much just kept piping in balls pusher style, until Nadal imposter misses, or gives him setter to put off. 😂😂😂😂

[@benncranklin3334]

Both players are good baseliners and certainly above 4.0 in that regard no question. Impressive rallying. Interestingly though neither seemed willing or comfortable coming to the net. Blue hit one successful drop shot that earned him the point. That seemed to be an opportunity for blue to exploit but he seemed content to exchange baselines thereafter. Also, I noticed neither player utilizes the split jump which is surprising. Perhaps indicating a mindset or willingness just hang at the baseline since it's their forte'? Again impressive baseliners and solid servers certainly don't make light of that.

[@P63N]

Really weird forms though

[@stevenjm12]

Blue is using the split step

[@ObiWon1089]

@ 3:15 “I told you, no backhands for me”

[@jasonmartino9414]

Guy in the blue never comes to the net even though the orange guy hits short balls. How can you beat a pusher if you never come to the net?

[@mattstouch268]

exactly, he needed to work him back on forth and get up to the net to finish the point. you need to be able to execute that strategy to beat really good grinders.

[@TheTora75]

100%

[@michelauts]

I think, that many of us want to do highlights and make shots seen on tv or else, but here you can see that the big difference between a great perfomance and a poor one its keeping it up to your own resources. The orange guy is simple, consistent and doesnt try to hit compromising balls with strokes with low percentage like fast returning on the run as the black shirt dude. many of the error on him are because he's trying shots out of his skills, at least in this day, and this match particularly. Maybe on other week, other month he succeded on those, but on whats seen today many balls were out cos' of not being realistic with his resources. Experience its boss. Nice video!

[@Radnally]

Should have tried to make the guy in orange come to the net more.

[@LegolasD]

This is an amazing court setting.

[@RobertThomasCollins]

Legolas Dixon I was going to comment the same. Beautiful!

[@jamesh1369]

The guy in the orange doesn't miss.

[@kenzieaponte7022]

The only 4.0 things from the blue guy are his serve and strategy. You can't just hammer through a pusher.

[@ROrneli]

orange shirt is a counter puncher, would not really call him a pusher when he is hitting 80 mph winners now and then

[@benballier9580]

This is contradictory lol. You literally said his strategy is 4.0 and then instantly said his strategy of hammering through a pusher sucked.

[@donnienguyen2294]

Blue guy’s forehand is like 4.5 man. If he runs to the net and volley/smash more, he could’ve pressure orange

[@jonmccauley6490]

@@donnienguyen2294 Yup, he absolutely refused to attack the net on the short balls. Just wanted to get into that cool hammer battle.

[@sunny051488]

😂 this was sort of entertaining to watch. The guy in orange is a masterclass definition of moonballer and pusher but knew when to inject pace on certain balls so I’ll give him kudos for that. Guy in blue started strong but eventually the pushing and moonballs seemed to break down his game and he started going for more to end the points on those high balls. Also neither player took a single ball early when it was a high ball bouncing in the middle of the court.

[@DecayUNCUT]

You are right. I take everything early. This cuts down on my injuries such as tennis elbow because I don't have to hit as many balls. Tom

[@john-boy4283]

Good analysis

[@thomasmedeiros5722]

Sandeep Potturi Good analysis of the match. I agree with your observations about moving forward and taking the ball on the rise( early) for two reason. 1. The closer you are to the net you can hit angles. 2. It cuts down the other Players time to react / reach the and return shots.

[@kieranarmstrongproductions4743]

He’s not a pusher he’s a counter puncher. Pushers don’t convert defense to offense, they just wait for errors. The orange shirt guy does both, which is what makes his such a tough player to beat

[@bangmonsta]

@@kieranarmstrongproductions4743 100% agree :), solid plays. He'll defend when you attack, and will attack when he smells opportunity. It's smart tennis, with point construction.

[@matthewlewis5497]

the guy in dark blue needed to make use of angles. Orange guy is a good player but he was able to stand deep behind the baseline and retrieve easily. Dark blue guy should've realized he couldn't overpower him.

[@AkatsukiShadow]

Both seem to be 4.5. The Guy in the Polo was just bombing shots without really coming up with a pattern of play. The other guy saw that and adjusted his game. Control > Power easy W.

[@geepeeone]

Old guy baited young guy to error galore all throughout the match.

[@sshen3101]

not really the old guy was the better player because he knew how to put away points in crucial situations.

[@parkerpewitt6054]

old guy was a pro pusher

[@HasteCakes]

that's how rec tennis is played

[@mbkincaid1]

video is all blue shirt dominating points but he loses. orange shirt must be one of the best pushers ever.

[@econprofaj]

That orange shirt guy is far from a pusher. There was plenty of pace on those ground strokes, but he did mix it up a bit.

[@kiuballchan]

this aint no 4.0

[@ahnguyen1]

this should not be 4.0

[@joevelte4252]

@@ahnguyen1 4.5s

[@rattata30]

In my head I was, " oh, I'm a 4.0"! Then they started hitting and ...no they are not 4.0

[@drincmusic2769]

eh... more of a consistent 4.0 probably close to a 4.5 it's kinda shakey considering the fact that they had to win a lot to get to nationals which probably meant them being able to beat other 4.0 players which meant that they were consistent as 4.0 players.

[@akathetruthteller]

it maybe 4.0 on the street. but they count as 3.5 for club players.

[@info781]

Guy in blue can move fast but never comes to the net, seems low energy. So glad UTR is taking over from NTRP ratings.

[@jeffhermida4788]

Orange shirt is a nightmare to play against. Forehand return is strong but rest of shots are neutral. You can beat him by outlasting him (really hard) or waiting for short ball and hit strong approach and finish with volley or overhead. I have seen a lot of good players lose to guys like orange shirt because of inconsistency and mental lapse.

[@gremsa]

Jeff Lee yeah. Orange player has a really good lengh and consistency with his shots. A nightmare as you said

[@TheTora75]

Aint that the truth, but that's tennis at the rec level. I rather enjoy playing moonballers now, but back in the day hated it.

[@casinowiz007]

After a few seconds of watching warm-ups and seeing a few points, it's obvious it's 4.5 level. Swing volley winners and winners from baseline, come on Sandbaggers !

[@icepenguin7278]

casinowiz007 wtf they are terrible they look like 4.0 to me

[@asantesamuel13]

No, they're 4.0 level. Their footwork is sloppy and they don't know how to hit winners to the open court or how to finish points, at least most of the time. Their serves are okay but definitely not 4.5. They make a lot of unforced errors when they get pushed back or to the corners. There were flashes of 4.5 level shots but that doesn't mean they actually are. It was confusing to watch honestly.

[@Noah55555]

@@asantesamuel13 You've managed to somehow massively overestimate the 4.5 level.

[@jasonterrell1563]

@@Noah55555 exactly.

[@sriniarivalagan5180]

Wonderful to watch, great consistency!

[@bruin4937]

In the first 5 minutes of this video, the player with the white shorts and navy shirt is a very good player, but he's beating himself via unforced errors, losing his concentration, and occasionally trying to do too much with the ball. The player in orange is also a very good player, and although he hit a good number of very strong shots, he's definitely more about consistency, about getting the ball back to the other side of the court. I thought the latter would win because of these factors. I was right. Good match, could've been closer IMO.

[@logandavis807]

i still don’t understand how to not break your wrist hitting buggy whip forehands all the time

[@ROrneli]

The way to beat orange shirt is not to fall into his game, he is obviously enjoying the pace and height of the ball. I would hit short and low and bring him into the middle of the court more to see how he moves back and forth . He also does not seem to like slices too much slice him a bit more take some pace off and see if he is able to dictate pace .

[@danmeadowsmusic]

Entertaining! No net approaches though! Interesting.

[@jacobs-h398]

John Daley has great anticipation and positions himself really well

[@danguee1]

There's the thing: how to beat the (orange) guy who never makes any mistakes on a slowish, high-bouncing surface? Maybe, ad hoc, formulate a strategy: attack his backhand including coming to net against it; work the dropshots from mid-court balls; open up the angles from the mid-court/short balls; SOMEthing! Just slugging away until you make a mistake ain't gonna cut it!

[@sjfkriensm]

Why people never use dropshots against "old" people? When I play I try to get them to the net, horizontal movement is way easier than vertical.

[@Kücükadambrk]

Very true. He should try different things

[@maurocoruzzi5464]

These two guys playing 4.0 its what makes the whole USTA ratings a JOKE

[@chriswylie253]

Really is ridiculous sometimes. I personally know a guy that plays fucking 5.5 doubles and when he enters tournaments he plays 4.0 singles to warm up before his doubles match.

[@vighneshramesh2569]

I have a friend that plays like the orange but not as high pace. The key is to hit it deep and also play drop shots and make him run around to throw him off his consistency. Your playing right into his game but doing this long baseline rallies. I noticed that the blue guy is getting winded and impatient cuz he’s hitting hard forehands while the orange is easily tapping it back while saving energy. The blue needs to hit flatter so his forehand has depth and piercing nature rather than brushing the forehand where it is safer but it goes high arching and gives the orange time to set up for the next ball. These are all mistakes I made too. The key change for me is attack the backhand and change it up with backhand slices, occasional drop shot and taking the ball early when you see it’s gonna bounce high.

[@NoRoads2AllRoads]

Guy in blue while has good shots, tactical wise he leaves a bit to be desired - no offense here. A lot of DTL shots where he had no business of making down the line (the ball received were deep and uncomfortable). It seems he wanted to finish points fast. By doing a lot of DTL shots without any reason, he would be exposed on the easier xcourt shots from orange guy. Lack of patience as well and not forcing the point when got some short balls to come to net. Bu what came more obvious to me was the huge amount of shots where he would just hit down the line

[@10smike]

I think the sound adds a half an NTRP point all by itself. :) Damn good 4.0's!!!

[@17Keither]

10 minutes in and only saw one volley (a missed swinging volley at that)...where has the chip-n-charge gone!!?? :(Black shirt should have been at the net every point approaching to the orange shirt backhand.

[@Multisportamateur]

Chip and get passed

[@tallsaint2053]

Orange's weakness is his backhand. I would have hit everything over there. Also, he was allowed to get too comfortable along the base line. Mix in some flatter shots, angled, low over the net, going for a couple of skidding bounces within the court. I don't think he would have liked running in and hitting low for those...

[@judgeprime3730]

Agreed, the blue guy was just hitting as hard as he could, absolutely zero thought to strategy. He would have won easily it he hit drops, slices and made orange run. But my gut tells me some shenanigans were going on here, they don't play like 4.0's....sus

[@tallsaint2053]

@@judgeprime3730 I guess, one thing to remember, sometimes you get a couple of guys playing that just love to hit hard. It feels good, its fun. Regardless of possible strategic advantages, both guys enter into an unspoken agreement to bang away. Nothing wrong with that. Tennis is a very difficult game. Can be very frustrating. Nothing wrong with "teaming up" to have some fun and rip for a while...

[@judgeprime3730]

@@tallsaint2053 well said! 👍

[@HarryJohnson69]

lol of course they’re solid 4.5s

[@byrne8509]

What an atmospheric court. Looks like a 3d render.

[@343MPulse]

He needs to work on his footwork a bit, he tends to just walk after he hits the ball, therefor he has to use more energy and has less time to hit a ball when he has to run.

[@DillPlays]

You look better than 4.0 for sure maybe your consistency that holds you back

[@danielchile76]

Guy in blue lost due to the amount of unforced errors and for not being able to adjust to the situation. He kept feeding him deep balls when guy in orange stood 3-4 feet behind the base line. Guy in orange incredibly consistent, but he needed to be forced to come forward more and make mistakes that way.

[@xuanyen92907]

No drop shots or short slice to change pace (bring apponent to the net). Playing with a solid moon ball pusher. I never ever hit hard unless I can see a big opening. Been dealing with superior pusher/moon ball and its damn frustrating with long rallies on every point.

[@Bubbles99718]

I step in hard on moonballs. Half volley those suckers. After setting up a pattern of that the typical moonballer can't compute or deal with the massive speed increase in play. They crash

[@ITOWords]

The guy in orange could rally all day long, but the blue player kept on putting in buggy whip shots down the middle of the court which because they were buggy whipped didn't have the necessary pace to trouble orange and kept dropping midcourt. I think if the blue player hit through the ball with flatter shots that were aimed more at the corners and then closed the points out at the net he would have won comfortably. He could have also mixed it up by bringing the orange player to the net (who clearly wasn't comfortable there) through slices. The shots would have been a little riskier, but as it was the orange player just ground him down through prolonged rallies.There is no point trying to take a pusher on at his own game, 9 times of 10 he'll get you.

[@picsesrising]

his1ojd looks to me like they both are pushers....?

[@RFinch44]

These would be some wicked 4.0 players haha.... WTT has an interesting format though. I like the idea of having a team average at a certain rating. It helps when people get bumped to the next level they still have the chance to play with their friends.

[@garglucky]

RL FYI

[@Sokeresa]

That's why you have Tri-level team tennis, it's only dubs though

[@khemkaslehrling3840]

This is interesting: - clearly good topspin baseliners, keep ball deep, move to corners well; but a lot of those while hit hard were bouncing inside service line - not much variety, very little slice or drop shots - first serve looked ok for clay, but no one seemed to even try to hit a first serve winner (ace) even though on hard court; at this level, if every first serve is going in and every one is coming back, something does not seem right

[@donesy125]

“Yeah Mustafa!”

[@brianv5677]

It would be interesting to know the winner/unforced error stats for both players. The guy in orange had very little of each.

[@AmateurTennistv]

Nice angle of camera, cool to watch!

[@adman0828]

If buddy in blue had a decent drive volley and used it to approach the score would have been 2 and 2 for him. You can't hit through guys who compensate for no split step and slow feet by lofting everything. That's exactly what they want you to do. Make you over hit and eventually tire from hitting everything at shoulder level. They'll give you the odd ripper all day. Guess that's why this is 4.0.

[@thelee3105]

Is the blue guy Nadal. Every forehand looks like that.

[@chuckfriebe843]

I commented above that I think that's his hero. Loops every ball as if he's on clay. Same racquet too. I see these types all the time. They wanna be Rafa. Ridiculous

[@tomyoon8831]

Honestly, the blue guy just mindlessly mashes the ball (Even with good form). Looking at this, all he needs to do is mix in short slices and be able to control direction and he will win every time.

[@Oam999]

Tom Yoon can you give an opinion of our match..check my channel please

[@thebarkingwater]

Must be a flood of epic proportions in these boys town.

[@Bobbyvee318]

So glad you managed to get unused baseline area to take up half the frame! Lol

[@002BonE]

olá eu sou do brasil e queria entender como funciona essa classificações de (4,0/4,5/5,0), jogo tênis também e já estou acompanhando os videos a 1 semana, baixei o app (smashtennis) que fala sobre essas classificações mas não sei se valem para vocês. aguardo resposta.

[@peternguyen1899]

Orange shirt guy is loving this game style, no need to run up. Drop shot this guy , and he's done.3.5 gameplay from blue shirt guy.

[@bgdn5]

The surface of these courts is terrible, but the location of the courts is very beautiful where they are located ? Could anybody tell me that?

[@danguee1]

Does the huge "Palm Valley Country Club" sign at the back not give you any clues?

[@skyBridgeConcept]

Blue shirt needs to run the orange guy more. He doesn't move well to begin with and he just need to focus more on placement instead of just pounding the ball. When you are playing at 4.0 or above most of the time, the guy will not miss if you pound the ball to them. You make them miss by hitting away from them or doing something to make them run.

[@grimson]

Can someone explain the changeovers? They didn’t change sides until after the third game. Is that unique to this event?

[@econprofaj]

After watching these guys, I have no problems with me self-rating myself down from 4.5 to 4.0 even though I had a .500 record at 4.5.

[@Bubbles99718]

Video is deceptive. Things appear much slower than they are and you can't appreciate the effort put out here

[@econprofaj]

@@Bubbles99718 I was trying to compliment them not degrade them. That was some high quality 4.0 tennis.

[@Bubbles99718]

@@econprofaj I know, just an observation. As for their level, seems a bit of sandbagging is happening. Difficult to tell on vid but there over all technique seems 4.5ish +

[@tenniswithric]

@@Bubbles99718 then why you talked about being "much slower" and "can't appreciate" which has nothing to do with what the guy said? The guy was clearly complimenting both players

[@johnkraemer5505]

Good match! I enjoyed watching it!

[@marshallmykietyshyn4973]

At what rating do most players start split stepping? I thought 4.0s would be already.

[@jonathanchen1026]

Marshall Mykietyshyn I feel like most recreational players get lazy and don’t, or they just never do

[@Bubbles99718]

Assuming one knows split stepping it really comes down to fitness. That crap is tiring. Something never mentioned in split stepping vids. :)

[@enzomarceloamelia9127]

the guy in blue is clearly 5.0 player. But mentally and tactically he has no idea how to play tennis

[@beaglesrfun5896]

So what makes him a 5.0 player then?

[@enzomarceloamelia9127]

@@beaglesrfun5896 regarding technique he's 5.0. overall i would say 3.0

[@Bubbles99718]

@@enzomarceloamelia9127 maybe 4.5 technically. 5's really push the pace on shots. But yeah, he didn't control the court at all and could have.

[@ashleywalls4097]

He bangs his forehand pretty good but a one pitch pitcher is stuck in triple A.

[@chuckfriebe843]

Then he's not a 5.0

[@klk5719]

Why does the guy in blue go to such lengthy measures to avoid using his backhand, when its easily his best shot.

[@HeliosDroneWorks]

does the guy in the orange hit winners? I watched for awhile and didn't see anything but loopy strokes to keep the ball in play

[@calvinfong8888]

old dude played a hella smart game, he saw that the young dude was making hella inconsistant so all he had to do was keep the ball in, and im pretty sure he was hiding his power too

[@WestCoastAce27]

He hit a few. But early on he realized his opponent would be impatient and give him plenty of points via UEs.

[@MrSkinnyBuh]

Wow! tough call at 7:34 I love how sure he is that it's out. I guess the difference between him and I is that I would have given it to the other player.

[@cabforwardooo9983]

That's because it was in. Everybody makes mistakes on line calls but it's still annoying to see.

[@bestix8174]

@@cabforwardooo9983 if you slow down the video you'll see is out

[@danguee1]

@@bestix8174 If you slow it down to 0.25 it's absolutely bang on the line. I even froze it in contact.

[@smopovianu]

Looks out to me. You have to be sure when calling the lines. Or pretend to be sure. Otherwise things can get ugly pretty quickly. I know from experience.

[@Kylealexander15]

Yeah that ball is in.

[@bvaughan3862]

Both of these guys are 4.5, at least.

[@SammyEddie]

By the time my team went to 4.0 state competition, many of us had already been bumped up to 4.5. We didnt cheat, but the reason we did so well at state was because we just had a lot of 4.0s who were about to get bumped. I have a feeling that is what is going on here.

[@jasonterrell1563]

LOL.

[@ThienTran-go7zg]

The player in blue had many chances to go up and volley but didn't take it. I'm guessing that's why he's rated 4.0. Really solid strokes though.

[@ilovebrandnewcarpets]

My guy in orange is for sure a 4.5. Very strong player.

[@DP-eo5xd]

Blue shirt dude needed to make orange move around more. Orange lacked court coverage but had good consistency and didn’t miss, his stroke form is definitely old school like from 80s/90s. Blue just hit the ball back to orange while orange did a better job making blue hit shots on the run and make errors .

[@dcstef7971]

That was a 5.0 defeating a 4.0-4.5

[@PlazaMoon]

The guy in blue lost?? I only saw a few minutes but he looked clearly the better player. I lost a similar match yesterday. My errors - trying to finish points too soon (therefore - hitting into the net, or out). I also wasn't capitalising on my strong groundstrokes by staying back too much. Pushers are uninspiring to play but you have to be patient and mix up your shots and pace to make them uncomfortable

[@alexandreharatsaris6380]

That's why I think Serve-volley is still a good choice on Hard court WITH Amateurs players. IFthe Blue guy forced his serve a little more he could end-up lot of points in the net. The Orange guy is more consistent, it was an error to play his game.

[@LaoFarm]

Good match. Awesome court 😜

[@brycejones2935]

This is Nationals. You will never see a player ranked accurately at any National level tennis event.

[@geepeeone]

Alot of people seem surprise by this??

[@billprezioso3677]

When I was a 3.5 I played a guy in sectionals that had a two handed backhand like Djokovic I feel sorry for people who want to win like that what does it really prove, that you can beat a lower ranked player?

[@luisluu]

The guy in dark blue clearly 4.5 + sand bagging...and he still lost...

[@BubbaKeto]

Huy Luu the guy in orange is rated 5.0

[@luisluu]

10s Man dang. He doesn't look like 5.0. I dont know WTT format but how can 4.5 and 5.0 play 4 0 national?

[@BubbaKeto]

If you play him you'll know he's 5.0. Video doesn't do actual hitting justice.

[@BubbaKeto]

Huy Luu the average of the team needs to be at 4.0 to qualify the team. They formed when all the guys were 4.5 and girls at 3.5 or 3.0.

[@luisluu]

10s Man oh haha. Weird format...

[@joseppi4cinqua]

Why is the hll is blue short playing 4.0’s? Straight up sandbagger

[@tenniswithric]

Guy in blue should have tried to mix it up like playing drop shots. He just kept hitting the ball back to the older guy who's just wait for the blue guy to make some unforced errors

[@lilrdjackofa]

Now this is 4.0 4.5, thank god

[@1inchtv]

nice weather, great play!!

[@JJVee427]

Anyone know what their grips are? or *think they know? dude in the red shirt seems like an eastern maybe?

[@TravelMATran]

Serve it to the back hand when you serve k. The deuce side

[@djgruve817]

The gentleman in orange, 4.0 The gentleman in blue, 4.5

[@donnienguyen2294]

Orange guy is like a wall. I’d like to see blue guy move up to the net more.

[@jpharrington2004]

Guy in the orange looks so uncomfortable and stiff in all his groundstrokes

[@SijiatheNinja]

uncomfortable WTA forehand lol

[@DecayUNCUT]

The best player didn't seem to win this day. Tom

[@ayhayuba3969]

Very little tactics or strategy here. Navy shirt: kill ball Orange shirt: return ball deep until he gets an inevitable error from opponent Very little slicing to change the rhythm. Looked more like a baseline rally competition

[@Ashberryvillage10]

Guy in dark blue is named Mustafa, all we need is for him to play against a guy with the name scar and Long Live The King