Tennis - World Team Tennis NTRP 4.0 Nationals Men's Singles

Final Score was 6-1 Orange Shirt. The guy in orange didn't play for months prior to this match so his fitness wasn't great and he was rusty. He trained with juniors weekly when he was actively playing/coatching.

[@SHMEGMA9]

If you're the best 4.0 player aren't you just a 4.5?

[@samuelwalsh5822]

Well, bump yourself up... don't need to be told when to

[@joewong2235]

*mind blown*

[@raquethead5898]

looks like 4.0 to me

[@SDV208]

Men want to play down a level women want to play up a level. Go figure

[@Seronns]

@@SDV208 100% facts. These guys aren't true 4.0s. But thats what happens at nationals. I've been at the 4.5 and 5.0 level and at 4.5 at least half of every team was either current, or former collegiate players. And at 5.0, it was like all current college players with some former ITF guys in there too. Was great fun, but seriously ridiculous.

[@Radnally]

Sandbagging is alive and well. Well, at least this will put them up to 4.5.

[@picsesrising]

Radnally you are so right!

[@lkfrostad]

HAHAHA was thinking the same thing

[@chriswylie253]

Given the current state of rankings, its sandbagging, but this really should be what 4.0 tennis is. USTA 4.0 basically means ALL shots hit properly with consistency, directional control and use of pace and spin. Thats what these guys do. Above this, strategy and power start coming into play, which neither player really has. Neither comes to net, exposes weaknesses or any advanced skill, just very strong consistent strokes. Unfortunately 1.0-3.5 are just ignored levels, as its beneath everyones ego. Few tournaments for 3.0,etc. But there should be. 4.0 is every park hacks starting point. Ita a shame. 4.0 as it was designed should be something very special, which these guys are. Good match.

[@Bubbles99718]

@@chriswylie253 Good breakdown. As far as the lack of mobility goes that could be that vids always seem to slow things down.

[@wilsoch]

@@chriswylie253 I disagree that this is what 4.0 is supposed to be. Here are the definitions: 4.0 This player has dependable strokes, including directional intent, on both forehand and backhand sides on moderate shots, plus the ability to use lobs, overheads, approach shots and volleys with some success. This player occasionally forces errors when serving and teamwork in doubles is evident. 4.5 This player has begun to master the use of power and spins and is beginning to handle pace, has sound footwork, can control depth of shots, and is beginning to vary tactics according to opponents. This player can hit first serves with power and accuracy and place the second serve and is able to rush the net successfully. These players clearly have "begun to master the use of power and spins" and "control depth of shots." This is 4.5 tennis. Their serves are the only shots that lag behind a bit; both come over the side of the ball, no real kick serves.

[@gabriellima2]

tennis is so amazing, almost all videos i watch on this sport, there is a wonderful scenario sorrounding it.

[@android1617]

Say what you like about tight shirt man, you can't deny he's consistent as hell

[@askachim]

The guy in blue uses all this energy for the forehand for it to consistently land inside the service line

[@honkymonky7033]

When you hit the service line with a big top spin shot it rebounds super high at baseline you stupid, you have no clue

[@williamyeh6925]

The guy in orange is a solid player. He does not have a typical modern game strokes, but he is not missing. He hits the ball with pace and know how to change up. if he beats 5.0 players 50% of the time, then he is 5.0 regardless of how he hits the ball. There is more than one way to hit a tennis ball.

[@sriniarivalagan5180]

Wonderful to watch, great consistency!

[@thaipham283]

Great play from both players. Very easy for other people to make stupid comments. Love the consistency

[@ivyaguas1250]

Both were sooooo gooood. Wish there was scores posted as well... 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽

[@SDV208]

@ 3:15 “I told you, no backhands for me”

[@my240sx2]

I’m 4.5 and I don’t think I could beat the guy in the orange. The only time he looked uncomfortable was when he came to net a couple times. So mixing in some drop shots, low slices, or short angles might be a good strategy against him. He has a pusher style of play but he was able to put away winners when he wanted to. Solid player, definitely 4.5.

[@chuckfriebe843]

If you return his serve flat and at his feet on the baseline, he wouldn't have a chance. Other guy just loops the returns. Such an easy target.

[@Dan-ff7xp]

He doesnt even have footworks or cannot even run lol

[@sharto9618]

Disagree completely. Orange shirt has no mobility. Anytime he was forced to run, he either mishit the ball or just couldn't get to it. Not to mention he just pushed 90% of his shots which wouldn't work against the majority of 4.5 - 5.0 players. Hes a 4.0 player for sure.

[@bangmonsta]

@@sharto9618 "no mobility" is harsh, he's not moving fast but is definitely moving and returning balls. And from what I see, most of his returns land deeper than the service line, so they'll be harder to attack. He's not just pushing, he's constructing points with that 90% to poke for weakness/errors, and does attack with winners here and there.

[@AutoMotivatedTV]

Another disagree - He isn't a pusher - He bumped like one ball back - His technique is not quite where his opponents is - but he hits the ball hard enough

[@whuang03]

Someone get that guy a bigger shirt please... but these two should be at least 4.5 though.

[@chuckfriebe843]

Your tennis kit is supposed to fit, not hang off of you like you're wearing a garbage bag. This is not the 90s. Guys that go on court wearing big baggy basketball shorts and t-shirts that look like they're 3 sizes too big, look like shit.

[@LegolasD]

This is an amazing court setting.

[@RobertThomasCollins]

Legolas Dixon I was going to comment the same. Beautiful!

[@yoshikay8787]

I think the crowd noise is the reason I watched this thru!! Lol!!!! “Yeah Mustafa!!!!!”

[@johnkraemer5505]

Good match! I enjoyed watching it!

[@10smike]

I think the sound adds a half an NTRP point all by itself. :) Damn good 4.0's!!!

[@ROrneli]

first of all, like every else says, blue shirt if 4.5 sand bagging it. Second of all Orange shirt foot faults like cray. Third , I can tell blue shirt plays tons of clay, by the amount of spin he puts on the ball, he needs to learn to play with more drive , vary his shots and pace and play the net a little more. Orange shirt is typical 4.0 nightmare, old but full of tricks

[@chuckfriebe843]

Doesn't mean he plays clay. It means he's imitating Rafa. Same racquet and if you asked he'd tell you. I see this all the time on hard courts.

[@jacobs-h398]

John Daley has great anticipation and positions himself really well

[@Sean-fn8bn]

Hits like a 4.5, movement and strategy is 3.0 lol.

[@drincmusic2769]

yeah, it's honestly very true they way that you put it.

[@drincmusic2769]

The old guy wasn't really thinking about recovery, and the young gun didn't think about taking advantage of that. also just the fact that they have to call the lines are probably part of the reason why they have to be so patient to hit some of these shots.

[@superg3962]

Looked great in warn ups but feet of lead in the game- why?

[@ianbuick8946]

@@superg3962 In tennis there are term called "grounded/un-grounded". If you're are grounded, you can hit a solid shot. Key point is to make opponent un-grounded (unbalance, on the move) and make mistake. So in warm up, both player play close to the mid and make less mistake.

[@superg3962]

@@ianbuick8946 Great- I have never heard of that term- thank you for the info!

[@JP-ne7xj]

This was shot in wide angle. It would help if the setting was in linear mode on the GoPro. Would make it more similar to TV.

[@jamesh1369]

The guy in the orange doesn't miss.

[@hang-the-93]

Was looking around for some examples of levels playing since I have not played in 25 years and wanted to get a gauge for my level now, if these are 4.0 players I'll eat my strings, without sauce. Some very strong hitting.

[@Tennisfan4200]

Indeed, even more impressive to me is the consistency, especially Orange shirt

[@geepeeone]

Old guy baited young guy to error galore all throughout the match.

[@sshen3101]

not really the old guy was the better player because he knew how to put away points in crucial situations.

[@parkerpewitt6054]

old guy was a pro pusher

[@HasteCakes]

that's how rec tennis is played

[@KN-wv2ck]

Everyone needs to watch the ending. The orange Shirt (Robert?) won. Blue shirt (gustafa?) double faulted on the last point. For everyone saying that blue shirt is 4.5 sandbagging this is a prime example why pretty strokes isn't everything.

[@brianv5677]

It would be interesting to know the winner/unforced error stats for both players. The guy in orange had very little of each.

[@Radnally]

Should have tried to make the guy in orange come to the net more.

[@benncranklin3334]

Both players are good baseliners and certainly above 4.0 in that regard no question. Impressive rallying. Interestingly though neither seemed willing or comfortable coming to the net. Blue hit one successful drop shot that earned him the point. That seemed to be an opportunity for blue to exploit but he seemed content to exchange baselines thereafter. Also, I noticed neither player utilizes the split jump which is surprising. Perhaps indicating a mindset or willingness just hang at the baseline since it's their forte'? Again impressive baseliners and solid servers certainly don't make light of that.

[@P63N]

Really weird forms though

[@stevenjm12]

Blue is using the split step

[@002BonE]

olá eu sou do brasil e queria entender como funciona essa classificações de (4,0/4,5/5,0), jogo tênis também e já estou acompanhando os videos a 1 semana, baixei o app (smashtennis) que fala sobre essas classificações mas não sei se valem para vocês. aguardo resposta.

[@lockemdownrecords]

Classic example young gun verses older consistency. I was a young top fifty state ranked junior at sixteen and ran up against a much older guy who let me swing for the fences on every shot. He goal was just keep it in play and I beat myself. Got exhausted, got frustrated made wayyy to many mistakes and he just got it back in play and beat me. The description says the final score was 6-1 for the orange shirt. First glance I was thinking blue shirt wasn't thinking about the marathon just the sprint. They are both great..

[@Remixable100]

yeah thought it'd be way closer than that after looking at the footage

[@parkercrossland410]

He had the issue I got stuck at earlier this year in a few matches: He wants to play "his game" rather than the game his opponent is bad at. My guy wanted to crush forehands and that was about it. Honestly that works against most 4.0's if you have the weapon, but as you start to face people who can deal with the pace it requires follow up offense.

[@matthewlewis5497]

the guy in dark blue needed to make use of angles. Orange guy is a good player but he was able to stand deep behind the baseline and retrieve easily. Dark blue guy should've realized he couldn't overpower him.

[@thebarkingwater]

Must be a flood of epic proportions in these boys town.

[@LaoFarm]

Good match. Awesome court 😜

[@youngchuljung667]

nice weather, great play!!

[@kenzieaponte7022]

The only 4.0 things from the blue guy are his serve and strategy. You can't just hammer through a pusher.

[@ROrneli]

orange shirt is a counter puncher, would not really call him a pusher when he is hitting 80 mph winners now and then

[@benballier9580]

This is contradictory lol. You literally said his strategy is 4.0 and then instantly said his strategy of hammering through a pusher sucked.

[@donnienguyen2294]

Blue guy’s forehand is like 4.5 man. If he runs to the net and volley/smash more, he could’ve pressure orange

[@user-hp2mp7pj1r]

Great players both.

[@grimson]

Can someone explain the changeovers? They didn’t change sides until after the third game. Is that unique to this event?

[@AmateurTennistv]

Nice angle of camera, cool to watch!

[@jasonmartino9414]

Guy in the blue never comes to the net even though the orange guy hits short balls. How can you beat a pusher if you never come to the net?

[@mattstouch268]

exactly, he needed to work him back on forth and get up to the net to finish the point. you need to be able to execute that strategy to beat really good grinders.

[@TheTora75]

100%

[@vighneshramesh2569]

I have a friend that plays like the orange but not as high pace. The key is to hit it deep and also play drop shots and make him run around to throw him off his consistency. Your playing right into his game but doing this long baseline rallies. I noticed that the blue guy is getting winded and impatient cuz he’s hitting hard forehands while the orange is easily tapping it back while saving energy. The blue needs to hit flatter so his forehand has depth and piercing nature rather than brushing the forehand where it is safer but it goes high arching and gives the orange time to set up for the next ball. These are all mistakes I made too. The key change for me is attack the backhand and change it up with backhand slices, occasional drop shot and taking the ball early when you see it’s gonna bounce high.

[@RFinch44]

These would be some wicked 4.0 players haha.... WTT has an interesting format though. I like the idea of having a team average at a certain rating. It helps when people get bumped to the next level they still have the chance to play with their friends.

[@garglucky]

RL FYI

[@Sokeresa]

That's why you have Tri-level team tennis, it's only dubs though

[@sunny051488]

😂 this was sort of entertaining to watch. The guy in orange is a masterclass definition of moonballer and pusher but knew when to inject pace on certain balls so I’ll give him kudos for that. Guy in blue started strong but eventually the pushing and moonballs seemed to break down his game and he started going for more to end the points on those high balls. Also neither player took a single ball early when it was a high ball bouncing in the middle of the court.

[@DecayUNCUT]

You are right. I take everything early. This cuts down on my injuries such as tennis elbow because I don't have to hit as many balls. Tom

[@john-boy4283]

Good analysis

[@thomasmedeiros5722]

Sandeep Potturi Good analysis of the match. I agree with your observations about moving forward and taking the ball on the rise( early) for two reason. 1. The closer you are to the net you can hit angles. 2. It cuts down the other Players time to react / reach the and return shots.

[@kieranarmstrongproductions4743]

He’s not a pusher he’s a counter puncher. Pushers don’t convert defense to offense, they just wait for errors. The orange shirt guy does both, which is what makes his such a tough player to beat

[@bangmonsta]

@@kieranarmstrongproductions4743 100% agree :), solid plays. He'll defend when you attack, and will attack when he smells opportunity. It's smart tennis, with point construction.

[@PlazaMoon]

The guy in blue lost?? I only saw a few minutes but he looked clearly the better player. I lost a similar match yesterday. My errors - trying to finish points too soon (therefore - hitting into the net, or out). I also wasn't capitalising on my strong groundstrokes by staying back too much. Pushers are uninspiring to play but you have to be patient and mix up your shots and pace to make them uncomfortable

[@DanimalLawlz]

Entertaining! No net approaches though! Interesting.

[@donesy125]

“Yeah Mustafa!”

[@mbkincaid1]

video is all blue shirt dominating points but he loses. orange shirt must be one of the best pushers ever.

[@econprofaj]

That orange shirt guy is far from a pusher. There was plenty of pace on those ground strokes, but he did mix it up a bit.

[@kiuballchan]

this aint no 4.0

[@ahnguyen1]

this should not be 4.0

[@joevelte4252]

@@ahnguyen1 4.5s

[@rattata30]

In my head I was, " oh, I'm a 4.0"! Then they started hitting and ...no they are not 4.0

[@drincmusic2769]

eh... more of a consistent 4.0 probably close to a 4.5 it's kinda shakey considering the fact that they had to win a lot to get to nationals which probably meant them being able to beat other 4.0 players which meant that they were consistent as 4.0 players.

[@akathetruthteller]

it maybe 4.0 on the street. but they count as 3.5 for club players.

[@xuanyen92907]

No drop shots or short slice to change pace (bring apponent to the net). Playing with a solid moon ball pusher. I never ever hit hard unless I can see a big opening. Been dealing with superior pusher/moon ball and its damn frustrating with long rallies on every point.

[@Bubbles99718]

I step in hard on moonballs. Half volley those suckers. After setting up a pattern of that the typical moonballer can't compute or deal with the massive speed increase in play. They crash

[@AkatsukiShadow]

Both seem to be 4.5. The Guy in the Polo was just bombing shots without really coming up with a pattern of play. The other guy saw that and adjusted his game. Control > Power easy W.

[@logandavis807]

i still don’t understand how to not break your wrist hitting buggy whip forehands all the time

[@byrne8509]

What an atmospheric court. Looks like a 3d render.

[@enricofiorillo6580]

I think this is a very good level

[@khemkaslehrling3840]

This is interesting: - clearly good topspin baseliners, keep ball deep, move to corners well; but a lot of those while hit hard were bouncing inside service line - not much variety, very little slice or drop shots - first serve looked ok for clay, but no one seemed to even try to hit a first serve winner (ace) even though on hard court; at this level, if every first serve is going in and every one is coming back, something does not seem right

[@cjf1514]

how old are these guys?

[@info781]

Guy in blue can move fast but never comes to the net, seems low energy. So glad UTR is taking over from NTRP ratings.

[@bruin4937]

In the first 5 minutes of this video, the player with the white shorts and navy shirt is a very good player, but he's beating himself via unforced errors, losing his concentration, and occasionally trying to do too much with the ball. The player in orange is also a very good player, and although he hit a good number of very strong shots, he's definitely more about consistency, about getting the ball back to the other side of the court. I thought the latter would win because of these factors. I was right. Good match, could've been closer IMO.

[@DillPlays]

You look better than 4.0 for sure maybe your consistency that holds you back

[@ROrneli]

The way to beat orange shirt is not to fall into his game, he is obviously enjoying the pace and height of the ball. I would hit short and low and bring him into the middle of the court more to see how he moves back and forth . He also does not seem to like slices too much slice him a bit more take some pace off and see if he is able to dictate pace .

[@lilrdjackofa]

Now this is 4.0 4.5, thank god

[@JJVee427]

Anyone know what their grips are? or *think they know? dude in the red shirt seems like an eastern maybe?

[@bgdn5]

The surface of these courts is terrible, but the location of the courts is very beautiful where they are located ? Could anybody tell me that?

[@danguee1]

Does the huge "Palm Valley Country Club" sign at the back not give you any clues?

[@Bobbyvee318]

So glad you managed to get unused baseline area to take up half the frame! Lol

[@HeliosDroneWorks]

does the guy in the orange hit winners? I watched for awhile and didn't see anything but loopy strokes to keep the ball in play

[@calvinfong8888]

old dude played a hella smart game, he saw that the young dude was making hella inconsistant so all he had to do was keep the ball in, and im pretty sure he was hiding his power too

[@WestCoastAce27]

He hit a few. But early on he realized his opponent would be impatient and give him plenty of points via UEs.

[@danguee1]

There's the thing: how to beat the (orange) guy who never makes any mistakes on a slowish, high-bouncing surface? Maybe, ad hoc, formulate a strategy: attack his backhand including coming to net against it; work the dropshots from mid-court balls; open up the angles from the mid-court/short balls; SOMEthing! Just slugging away until you make a mistake ain't gonna cut it!

[@Verity888]

Very entertaining!

[@jeffhermida4788]

Orange shirt is a nightmare to play against. Forehand return is strong but rest of shots are neutral. You can beat him by outlasting him (really hard) or waiting for short ball and hit strong approach and finish with volley or overhead. I have seen a lot of good players lose to guys like orange shirt because of inconsistency and mental lapse.

[@gremsa]

Jeff Lee yeah. Orange player has a really good lengh and consistency with his shots. A nightmare as you said

[@TheTora75]

Aint that the truth, but that's tennis at the rec level. I rather enjoy playing moonballers now, but back in the day hated it.

[@marshallmykietyshyn4973]

At what rating do most players start split stepping? I thought 4.0s would be already.

[@jonathanchen1026]

Marshall Mykietyshyn I feel like most recreational players get lazy and don’t, or they just never do

[@Bubbles99718]

Assuming one knows split stepping it really comes down to fitness. That crap is tiring. Something never mentioned in split stepping vids. :)

[@17Keither]

10 minutes in and only saw one volley (a missed swinging volley at that)...where has the chip-n-charge gone!!?? :(Black shirt should have been at the net every point approaching to the orange shirt backhand.

[@Multisportamateur]

Chip and get passed

[@santoshthapa8398]

very impressive. the sound coming off of the blue shirt racket omg so cool!

[@Oam999]

santosh thapa can you rated our level?

[@Oam999]

check my channel

[@casinowiz007]

After a few seconds of watching warm-ups and seeing a few points, it's obvious it's 4.5 level. Swing volley winners and winners from baseline, come on Sandbaggers !

[@icepenguin7278]

casinowiz007 wtf they are terrible they look like 4.0 to me

[@asantesamuel13]

No, they're 4.0 level. Their footwork is sloppy and they don't know how to hit winners to the open court or how to finish points, at least most of the time. Their serves are okay but definitely not 4.5. They make a lot of unforced errors when they get pushed back or to the corners. There were flashes of 4.5 level shots but that doesn't mean they actually are. It was confusing to watch honestly.

[@Noah55555]

@@asantesamuel13 You've managed to somehow massively overestimate the 4.5 level.

[@jasonterrell1563]

@@Noah55555 exactly.

[@maurocoruzzi5464]

These two guys playing 4.0 its what makes the whole USTA ratings a JOKE

[@chriswylie253]

Really is ridiculous sometimes. I personally know a guy that plays fucking 5.5 doubles and when he enters tournaments he plays 4.0 singles to warm up before his doubles match.

[@TravelMATran]

Serve it to the back hand when you serve k. The deuce side

[@tallsaint2053]

Orange's weakness is his backhand. I would have hit everything over there. Also, he was allowed to get too comfortable along the base line. Mix in some flatter shots, angled, low over the net, going for a couple of skidding bounces within the court. I don't think he would have liked running in and hitting low for those...

[@danielchile76]

Guy in blue lost due to the amount of unforced errors and for not being able to adjust to the situation. He kept feeding him deep balls when guy in orange stood 3-4 feet behind the base line. Guy in orange incredibly consistent, but he needed to be forced to come forward more and make mistakes that way.

[@343MPulse]

He needs to work on his footwork a bit, he tends to just walk after he hits the ball, therefor he has to use more energy and has less time to hit a ball when he has to run.

[@HarryJohnson69]

lol of course they’re solid 4.5s

[@DP-eo5xd]

Blue shirt dude needed to make orange move around more. Orange lacked court coverage but had good consistency and didn’t miss, his stroke form is definitely old school like from 80s/90s. Blue just hit the ball back to orange while orange did a better job making blue hit shots on the run and make errors .

[@NoRoads2AllRoads]

Guy in blue while has good shots, tactical wise he leaves a bit to be desired - no offense here. A lot of DTL shots where he had no business of making down the line (the ball received were deep and uncomfortable). It seems he wanted to finish points fast. By doing a lot of DTL shots without any reason, he would be exposed on the easier xcourt shots from orange guy. Lack of patience as well and not forcing the point when got some short balls to come to net. Bu what came more obvious to me was the huge amount of shots where he would just hit down the line

[@skyBridgeConcept]

Blue shirt needs to run the orange guy more. He doesn't move well to begin with and he just need to focus more on placement instead of just pounding the ball. When you are playing at 4.0 or above most of the time, the guy will not miss if you pound the ball to them. You make them miss by hitting away from them or doing something to make them run.

[@sjfkriensm]

Why people never use dropshots against "old" people? When I play I try to get them to the net, horizontal movement is way easier than vertical.

[@abdurrahmanylmaz3643]

Very true. He should try different things

[@thelee3105]

Is the blue guy Nadal. Every forehand looks like that.

[@chuckfriebe843]

I commented above that I think that's his hero. Loops every ball as if he's on clay. Same racquet too. I see these types all the time. They wanna be Rafa. Ridiculous

[@his1ojd]

The guy in orange could rally all day long, but the blue player kept on putting in buggy whip shots down the middle of the court which because they were buggy whipped didn't have the necessary pace to trouble orange and kept dropping midcourt. I think if the blue player hit through the ball with flatter shots that were aimed more at the corners and then closed the points out at the net he would have won comfortably. He could have also mixed it up by bringing the orange player to the net (who clearly wasn't comfortable there) through slices. The shots would have been a little riskier, but as it was the orange player just ground him down through prolonged rallies.There is no point trying to take a pusher on at his own game, 9 times of 10 he'll get you.

[@picsesrising]

his1ojd looks to me like they both are pushers....?

[@peternguyen1899]

Orange shirt guy is loving this game style, no need to run up. Drop shot this guy , and he's done.3.5 gameplay from blue shirt guy.

[@ilovebrandnewcarpets]

My guy in orange is for sure a 4.5. Very strong player.

[@koboihenk]

Nice location. where is it?

[@gavinfukada5902]

The banner hanging on the fence says Palm Valley, so that would be my guess

[@brycejones2935]

This is Nationals. You will never see a player ranked accurately at any National level tennis event.

[@geepeeone]

Alot of people seem surprise by this??

[@billprezioso3677]

When I was a 3.5 I played a guy in sectionals that had a two handed backhand like Djokovic I feel sorry for people who want to win like that what does it really prove, that you can beat a lower ranked player?

[@ayhayuba3969]

Very little tactics or strategy here. Navy shirt: kill ball Orange shirt: return ball deep until he gets an inevitable error from opponent Very little slicing to change the rhythm. Looked more like a baseline rally competition

[@ThienTran-go7zg]

The player in blue had many chances to go up and volley but didn't take it. I'm guessing that's why he's rated 4.0. Really solid strokes though.

[@tomyoon8831]

Honestly, the blue guy just mindlessly mashes the ball (Even with good form). Looking at this, all he needs to do is mix in short slices and be able to control direction and he will win every time.

[@Oam999]

Tom Yoon can you give an opinion of our match..check my channel please

[@donnienguyen2294]

Orange guy is like a wall. I’d like to see blue guy move up to the net more.

[@econprofaj]

After watching these guys, I have no problems with me self-rating myself down from 4.5 to 4.0 even though I had a .500 record at 4.5.

[@Bubbles99718]

Video is deceptive. Things appear much slower than they are and you can't appreciate the effort put out here

[@econprofaj]

@@Bubbles99718 I was trying to compliment them not degrade them. That was some high quality 4.0 tennis.

[@Bubbles99718]

@@econprofaj I know, just an observation. As for their level, seems a bit of sandbagging is happening. Difficult to tell on vid but there over all technique seems 4.5ish +

[@tenniswithric]

@@Bubbles99718 then why you talked about being "much slower" and "can't appreciate" which has nothing to do with what the guy said? The guy was clearly complimenting both players

[@adman0828]

If buddy in blue had a decent drive volley and used it to approach the score would have been 2 and 2 for him. You can't hit through guys who compensate for no split step and slow feet by lofting everything. That's exactly what they want you to do. Make you over hit and eventually tire from hitting everything at shoulder level. They'll give you the odd ripper all day. Guess that's why this is 4.0.

[@crazymckfedfan1786]

they are 4.5 player playing at 4.0. 4.0 can't hit hard like that yet. Maybe they are building their confident. They rate them self probably.

[@tenniswithric]

Guy in blue should have tried to mix it up like playing drop shots. He just kept hitting the ball back to the older guy who's just wait for the blue guy to make some unforced errors

[@djgruve817]

The gentleman in orange, 4.0 The gentleman in blue, 4.5

[@agradina]

pure drive vs babolat of course wat to expect from 4 ntrp final.

[@alexandreharatsaris6380]

That's why I think Serve-volley is still a good choice on Hard court WITH Amateurs players. IFthe Blue guy forced his serve a little more he could end-up lot of points in the net. The Orange guy is more consistent, it was an error to play his game.

[@Ashberryvillage10]

Guy in dark blue is named Mustafa, all we need is for him to play against a guy with the name scar and Long Live The King

[@MrSkinnyBuh]

Wow! tough call at 7:34 I love how sure he is that it's out. I guess the difference between him and I is that I would have given it to the other player.

[@cabforwardooo9983]

That's because it was in. Everybody makes mistakes on line calls but it's still annoying to see.

[@bestix8174]

@@cabforwardooo9983 if you slow down the video you'll see is out

[@danguee1]

@@bestix8174 If you slow it down to 0.25 it's absolutely bang on the line. I even froze it in contact.

[@smopovianu]

Looks out to me. You have to be sure when calling the lines. Or pretend to be sure. Otherwise things can get ugly pretty quickly. I know from experience.

[@Kylealexander15]

Yeah that ball is in.

[@klk5719]

Why does the guy in blue go to such lengthy measures to avoid using his backhand, when its easily his best shot.

[@jeremyteti914]

bruv this is more like 4,5-5.0 . Clean groundstrokes, great intensity, no shanking here and there.