Jeff taking a lesson, wow. Talk about humility. These two are the best on KZbin PERIOD
@TennisEvolution2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, appreciate your nice comment!
@oozonyt2 жыл бұрын
Two coaches I follow the most, on the same court talking things thru! This was just awesome!!
@TennisEvolution2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@CoVaTennis2 жыл бұрын
Love the transparency and honesty. Shows that we're all human and working on something!
@TennisEvolution2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@FYProduction2 жыл бұрын
I had many unsuccessful 2HBH instructions, such as dropping the racquet head prior to the swing or having a looser grip, All are nice attempts from coach's observation but only lead to my increasing frustration. Eventually, I came to the realization that it is very much an unconscious effort and it's senseless trying to manufacture something artificial. Then, I wonder why many WTA players on TV twirl the racquet, as if it's a baton or even mimicking the fencing feint moves, during the coin-toss? My key discovery and worked well for me, is that the 2HBH consists of shoulder turn, driving with the hip while twirling (or the sensation of stirring a pot of soup or scrambling eggs with the wooden spoon with both hands). Now my backhand has plenty of topspin (instead of just slapping the ball or bunting it) and the technique helps with control on the return of serve.
@osteouk2 жыл бұрын
This has to be one of my favourite tennis videos. Love the brainstorming and although not at your levels, I have the same exact issues. Been using a massage stick as a racquet-swinger to get feel on FH and serve brilliantly. With 2hbh it shows that I’m moving my body before I complete a full swing, front to back.
@TenisLaMinut11 ай бұрын
These kind of videos with 2 coaches passing ideas back and forth are the best for online coaching tennis. 👍💪🎾
@marcdhumeaux97182 жыл бұрын
another great video. It's awesome to see a former ATP top 100 being so humble. Really inspiring
@fingersm2 жыл бұрын
Tom is a real favourite of mine for years. As r u!! 👍. This is such a valuable video. Reminds me of very solid player I befriended and were hitting for weekly before he moved. He would see i hit in front of me on BH and always told me to "wait for the ball". He had so many value insights for a guy that was not even real pro. Tom is a real pro coach and have since first video knew he has a special "eye" for certain details that are game changers.
@TennisEvolution2 жыл бұрын
Well said Franceso. Thank you for watching!
@Mickey_McD2 жыл бұрын
Lot of fun watching you and Tom work together.
@TennisEvolution2 жыл бұрын
That's awesome to hear, thanks!
@leviticusspeaks77322 жыл бұрын
Love the intelligent rapport between two outstanding, competent and relatable coaches. Jeff, during your b/h unit turn your racquet immediately drops low before reaching the higher power position. However there IS a very nice smooth rhytmatic pendulum effect coming back to the ball/contact point. Question ❓ for debate is: Should students be given that option also of a low pendulum take/back during the unit turn? Or should the narrative of keeping racquet above hands (straight take/back, circular loop take/back) continue to be reinforced? My two cents is, that just like students are allowed in the beginning to choose between what's comfortable having a one-handed or two-handed b/h... Another decision or choice is required here at this dilemma. I would love to hear feedback on this subject. Again great tutorial by two wonderful guys/coaches. Enjoying from ATL Ga.🇺🇲 Carry on mates. 👏👍👍
@warriorzentennis2 жыл бұрын
This is really cool to see Jeff. Given your success on the tour it could be easy to say "I'm good" but to see you on the grind is motivating. See you this summer. V/r Wes
@TennisEvolution2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Wes! Looking forward to seeing you over the summer.
@entropyroshan98462 жыл бұрын
Jeff, I’m left handed and the same age as you and from the same era of tennis with a similar challenge. What I’m thinking of these days it to think of the right hand anchoring behind the ball at contact like a right handed forehand and then bring the right wrist around just like our left handed forehand would. This concept helped me with being more right hand dominant at contact and the left hand looser (giving that “bent wrist of the pros” as you point out). All those years of Connors, Courier and Hewitt messed us up! Even Andre’s takeback is not like Djoko! LoL. This is a great topic and I feel for a fellow lefty! By the way, watching Maria S’s backhand in slomo helps as well to not be as primary arm dominant. Remember she’s ambidextrous so her left hand on the swing is beautiful to watch!
@IverKnackerov2 жыл бұрын
Simply, this is the best tennis advice on KZbin 👍
@TennisEvolution2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, appreciate your nice comment!
@krolldavid Жыл бұрын
Very motivating. Great instruction and also to see that a very successful coach is open to listening and learning himself. A great and important skill for any teacher and student.
@felixfoerster35272 жыл бұрын
Hi Jeff, I have to admit that I was a bit surprised seeing you hitting the 2 handed backhand like this. Here are my observations: 1. Change your grip on the left hand to be an eastern backhand grip. Helps to hit easier topspin and your wrist will be more relaxed during the swing. 2. Remind yourself what you teach on the forehand. Create space between your arm and your body. As soon as your elbow is tucked, the swing won’t feel natural. Look at your body and hand position at 1:10 min. It doesn’t look relaxed to me. 3. Hit a few forehand with your right hand and follow your own teaching on the Rodger forehand, especially keeping the head on the side and down where you make ball contact and extend the arm to the front before you finish up high. In my opinion, the two handed backhand shouldn’t be hit with the players dominant arm, it actually the non dominant arm. Looking forward to hear your thought on it. Warm regards from Germany Felix
@TennisEvolution2 жыл бұрын
Awesome observations Felix! Thank you for watching.
@jamesfishyang Жыл бұрын
Love your videos Jeff. I agree with your first thought which is you're muscling the ball. Shoulders tight and elevated. Relax the shoulders and actually protract your left shoulder a bit. Need the proper space from the ball, if the ball gets too close you'll compress and tighten again, a necessity sometimes with fast balls or slightly misjudging the footwork. Look for your smooth stroke and relax the left arm.... Should be a right handed forehand where the left arm relaxes. Full stroke. Shadow swings. Your take back can be bigger with the head cocked up a bit more would give you more flow and a longer stroke. From a humble 4.5/5 player and a physical therapist Cheers
@bmanbusee38122 жыл бұрын
Great video guys! Will implement these tips as well!
@TennisEvolution2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, let me know how it goes!
@iobviouslyknowmytennis34782 жыл бұрын
Hey Jeff, I was taking a look at some of your old livestreams these past couple of days where you'd talk about the previews for slams/tournaments and go in depth about certain players' game-styles. Would you ever consider doing more of those type of videos in 2022, where you preview the upcoming Australian Open(as well as other subsequent big events later in the year)? It'd be great for the fans of the channel to interact live and give their opinions, whilst you (and potential guests too) discuss the topics. Apologies if this comment is completely unrelated to this video, I do love these training/technique videos too btw!
@TennisEvolution2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback and suggestion! I'll consider it.
@K4R3N2 жыл бұрын
The video I've been waiting for
@TennisEvolution2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@stephnan81402 жыл бұрын
Hi from France ;-) One of the best on court tennis lesson I've ever seen. Great job Jeff !
@deeps102 жыл бұрын
Great video. Looking forward to trying this
@TennisEvolution2 жыл бұрын
You’re welcome! Glad to help.
@terrydavidson45817 ай бұрын
Good to see you questioning your technique, Jeff. But right now I’m following your original double backhand video!
@gabrielalcocer80512 жыл бұрын
The hips do need to rotate but we typically think of them as opening because of forehand technique. On the backhand it’s more subtle and a more important cue is the torso and keeping the rotation more ‘same side’ to strike the ball in front of the lead hip.
@mario17-t34 Жыл бұрын
Interesting if Jeff after ATP having so many questions. it's confirmed that you need to pick up style/line/coach you like and go with it. Hit vs is a very rare concept these days. What do you think? Absolute jewels stuff at @17
@marioloss88712 жыл бұрын
Amazing!
@TennisEvolution2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Mario! Glad you liked it.
@Looii52 жыл бұрын
I think it’s always good to think of a double-handed backhand more like a double-handed forehand, that is to say the dominant hand, the hand that drives through the ball is your other hand. That is to say if you’re a right-hander, you look at your double-handed backhand as a left handed double-handed forehand. Or in your case Jeff, it’s a double-handed right handed forehand.
@chorhanglam2 жыл бұрын
Coach, your backhand looks solid in the match against Michael Chang. What changed? The rhythm here seems a little off; have you thought about doing a loopier take back like Agassi so that the back swing can connect with/accelerate into the forward swing?
@thecatvirusgotme8892 жыл бұрын
Jeff - you are an Inspiration for all of us! When a former top 100 player is still working on strokes, what excuse do we all have? One thing I noticed when you mentioned getting enough space away from the ball - if one hits well in front, no need to create space. Not that it's easy to hit balls very early. Once again, bravo for this lesson!
@TennisEvolution2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, appreciate your nice comment!
@FairwayJack2 жыл бұрын
great stuff
@TennisEvolution2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@FundamentalTennis2 жыл бұрын
Turn those shoulders more on the backhand Jeff!
@TennisEvolution2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the advice!
@soevjaanoemar27612 жыл бұрын
I love this
@TennisEvolution2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@direwolf5252 жыл бұрын
Andre Agassi used his right arm to pull the racquet instead of left arm... It feels like hitting with one handed backhand except that he used his left hand to helping swing through the ball..
@vijaynarsapur1472 жыл бұрын
Jeff... You have a very Andy Murray like backhand now... 👍👍
@TennisEvolution2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@walterdunner23508 ай бұрын
Great!!❤
@TennisEvolution2 жыл бұрын
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@christopherwilson19892 жыл бұрын
Does anyone know where to buy something like the weight Tom and Jeff are swinging in this video?
@jayrussell262 жыл бұрын
Ps love this video both Tom & Jeff are so perceptive - good chemistry as well
@christopherwilson19892 жыл бұрын
It's called a mace ball in case anyone else is curious.
@jayrussell262 жыл бұрын
@@christopherwilson1989 thanks . I saw it as “macebell” and is sold as a golf training aid. I use a 5lb dumbbell for this purpose.
@davidballou86932 жыл бұрын
Nice video. Jeff, look at your shoulders when you hit your backhand. They seem to scrunch up to your neck. I think this could prevent you from making a smooth swing. It also relates to the comment below about keeping your arms away from your body. Tension in the shoulders is never good unless you are doing a military press or something like that.
@TomAllsopp2 жыл бұрын
Hi David and Jeff. I agree with the shoulder tension, but as I mentioned in the video I think it stems from the pulling action being used. If you had a more realized swinging or throwing motion this would likely address this issue. You could simply try relaxing your shoulders, but relaxing as you’re pulling is a tough balance.
@TennisEvolution2 жыл бұрын
@@TomAllsopp Well said!
@TennisEvolution2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching David! I appreciate your advice.
@ampiciline5 ай бұрын
I think Russian coaches are the best coaches in terms of teaching two handed backhand ....I personally love Afghany kefelnikov and marat safin two handed backhand mechanics !
@axisofpeter2 жыл бұрын
I don't understand why Jeff has fewer than 100k subscribers.
@TennisEvolution2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the support! We're getting closer to the 100k milestone :D
@sammuthu12 жыл бұрын
I think the right elbow is too close to body on the back swing, causing Jeff to get jammed through the forward swing.
@TennisEvolution2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching Sam! I appreciate your comment.
@charlesh.16432 жыл бұрын
A common mistake some people make on a 2-handed backhand is that they step with the toe on the front foot. Stepping that way breaks the kinetic chain by forcing the body backwards instead of stepping with the heel first which allows proper transfer of weight into the shot.
@jamesfishyang Жыл бұрын
Your first move is hunching your shoulders up..... Take a look Relax your shoulders, keep them down, that will allow better flow and smooth kinetic chain
@jamesfishyang Жыл бұрын
Cool. I made this comment before seeing his final thoughts which were similar.
@jacksonlar2 жыл бұрын
Try using your feet to back away from the ball a bit more, and on prep, imagine that you have a cantaloupe under your left armpit.
@grokker992 жыл бұрын
Try looping ur Bh swing. My 2 cents
@TennisEvolution2 жыл бұрын
Appreciate the feedback.
@gabrielalcocer80512 жыл бұрын
Funny that you mention Murray because I think his backhand is what limited him from achieving greater feats. Lol
@kevinduffy22962 жыл бұрын
It was probably hit best shot!
@LubaLuba12 жыл бұрын
Hey guys sounds like your still trying to figure it out you should change the title to "Figuring out how to hit two backhand like the pros" LOL
@gregtoto1752 жыл бұрын
I think the shot uses the body Nadal always rotates his upper body all the time swinging the arms freely is not good without upper body rotation you will have no leverage
@robertaltbaum47142 жыл бұрын
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@shawnqiu78679 ай бұрын
Jeff coaching two handed backhand what he doesn't even understand. Wasting me so much time. Evil !
@twinwankel2 жыл бұрын
I have watched a few videos from Tom's channel and he's just OK. Wasn't impressed by his understanding. After awhile I unsubscribed. Jeff's a much better coach.
@bmanbusee38122 жыл бұрын
Wouldn’t say Tom just ok. Think he’s spot on with this lesson and you can see the impact on Jeff’s 2hbh.
@felixfoerster35272 жыл бұрын
Hi Jeff, I have to admit that I was a bit surprised seeing you hitting the 2 handed backhand like this. Here are my observations: 1. Change your grip on the left hand to be an eastern backhand grip. Helps to hit easier topspin and your wrist will be more relaxed during the swing. 2. Remind yourself what you teach on the forehand. Create space between your arm and your body. As soon as your elbow is tucked, the swing won’t feel natural. 3. Hit a few forehand with your right hand and follow your own teaching on the Rodger forehand, especially keeping the head on the side and down where you make ball contact and extend the arm to the front before you finish up high. In my opinion, the two handed backhand shouldn’t be hit with the players dominant arm, it actually the non dominant arm. Looking forward to hear your thought on it. Warm regards from Germany Felix
@sunglee39352 жыл бұрын
Tom’s forehand is good but he said himself he’s not confident with his backhand
@jxa8112 жыл бұрын
Tom is better dealing with more advanced players. He is very good with kenetic chain business. Watch the lessons that he brings in his friend to help in. I think the guys name is Chris.he is just one level above all the coaches I have seen.