Experimental Music: The Good, The Bad & The Ugly

[@claudevandog]

One experimental album worth mentioning is Not Available by The Residents. It's such a strange album but it's really grown on me and there are some weirdly beautiful moments, and also the project served as a form of personal therapy for the group

[@Yankeefan2807]

The residents are incredible

[@juanfilipwinifred]

I have the album on vinyl. The residents first album is also amazing

[@squirlmy]

They made over 60 albums, which is insane.

[@keithmorrison8373]

Yeah it's like a very bizzare rock opera made entirely from electronic instruments and yeah its fucking weird but I really like it

[@experimentalel7]

i adore that record

[@notanaxemurderer1145]

I find Stalaggh to actually be one of the most interesting projects I've ever listened to. It's a bone chilling experience of the pains and drowning fears of people with extreme mental health disorders. It's one of the rawest forms of expression.

[@leomb471]

yep. its insane. probably the most terrifying album ever made. it may be screaming but its definitly a good type of art

[@ajeagleson8464]

I haven’t heard it yet, but I listen to a lot of industrial experimental stuff and as he was describing it negatively I just kept liking the idea of it more and more. It’s an insane dark slightly distasteful concept but I’m definitely going to go find that strangling section and telling a friend or two the story behind it

[@Callmewhateveryt]

As someone who "experiments" when making my songs it's always a 50 50 if it turns out good or not

[@marafolse8347]

I love this new direction Jreg. In all seriousness though, I adore outsider music, and I love love love this channel so far! Also thanks for at least including a visual of 100 gecs :))

[@normapadro420]

The reason why I began composing music is, because I find every one of these artists an inspiration. They made me think. I thought of so many things to create. I love all of their music. Thank you so much for sharing this inspirational video.

[@thecaremaker1001]

Forms Of Paper by Steve Roden is one of my personal favorites. I will not explain why.

[@leomb471]

steve roden is above almost all.

[@lofi-guy]

I can't fathom how you started a KZbin channel with content made specifically for me

[@domenickmacri7936]

i love your channel. I'm very wide open in my listening habits and like everything from mainstream pop to the most experimental music. i make music but i doubt anyone would want to hear it lol. and the last mentioned artists in the ugly part were actually featured in an article awhile ago in this British experimental music and art magazine the wire. my suggestion would be happy flowers albums my skin covers my body, i crush bozo, oof! and lasterday i was been bad. keep up the great work!

[@CharlesMontgomeryBurns.]

This is a super underrated channel

[@videonasty2537]

Ok but as someone who has done a lot of narrative and experimental sound editing. I would be interested in using samples from any one the Ugly category albums in soundscape for a horror film

[@daviseobloski3707]

horror soundscapes!

[@dougyuck]

I kinda wanna check out that snail dilemma album but at the same time i don't want to know what the album cover looks like

[@Yamari1]

11:27 James Ferraro, Anything from his rnb and experimental hip hop era, bebetune$, bodyguard, also the bootleg bad boy flame, prince of rain which is probably one of my favorite of his.

[@keithmorrison8373]

And his utopian virtual alblums he has one called far side virtual which is like the first ever utopian virtual album

[@underscorerx]

I would say that it is important to distinguish between experimental music (the good), outsider art music (the bad) and underground grindcore shock art (yep, might not be good art, still art though). Honestly neither stallagh nor snail are that bad, i’ve heard worse believe it or not. I’m lowkey interested in stallagh to be honest, if it’s really a live recording of mental patients. Wouldn’t call it experimental music though, at most sound design.

[@Atuin6298]

Great video. It would've been cool if you'd also mentioned an album that had been considered the worst ever made but gained some recognition over time: Lou Reed's Metal Machine Music. Fun fact: even Lou himself stated that it wasn't meant to be listened completely in one session.

[@chandoopawapola8313]

I love your content.i think you will complete 100k subscribers soon.

[@haticomo6990]

Dude heard harsh noise for the first time. The Shtalaggh is classic of harsh noise. That's how its supposed to sound.

[@THEM00SHR00M]

20:39 still art

[@spicygumbo5002]

If you want I'd recommend reviewing "Y" by The Pop Group. Such a weird album with a very divided fanbase

[@brianhall5377]

Awesome Record. Kinda Dub/Ska meets Noise

[@Miruq]

Johnnascus is a great example of this

[@Adam-tj3yx]

Already find this KZbinr entertaining the moment I clicked on this video. You've earned a sub my guy.

[@oto999]

The debate about what exactly is art or not is literally endless, although very interesting if you have nothing more important to do. But most of the time, when we ask if something is art, we actually ask if it should be *celebrated* as art, meaning that we think of art as some sacred thing that ought to always be beautiful, uplifting or pleasant. Extremely bad/weird/both music makeses us to question these assumptions, and i am grateful for that (and for giving us 100gecs). Now, can calling something art be just a pedantic excuse to make the dumbest, most worthless stuff and force everyone around to sit politely through it ? As someone who's suffered way too many conceptual art exhibitions and experimental happenings, i can say that it's not a coincidence if contemporary art is one of the biggest tax shelter.

[@underscorerx]

I don’t like celebratory aspect of art taken for granted and i think it is the root of the problem. To me the solution is simple - if you question if something is art, it is. And the conversation about that piece of art is what gives this piece the actual value that can be celebrated. Sometimes bad examples can be just as valuable, but mediocrity never is. Art is the magic mirror for a civilization.

[@shayneoneill1506]

Frank zappa had a really interesting and simple take on "what is art". He said art is "whatever is inside the frame". That is, if an artists points to something they did and says "Thats an art!" then its art. Simple as that.

[@eleanorsfate445]

I hope your channel experiences some whopping growth soon! Found you via your deep dives on Boards of Canada, and subscribed in a heartbeat! Keep at it, my man. Love your stuff!

[@philosophre]

Experimental artists may lack a lot of musical elements, but at least they have "ideas"!

[@dirtblockandfriends]

Loved your video on Geogaddi!

[@misterpaulggftw9103]

I'm a big The Weeknd fan and I kinda think that his earlier works like The Kiss Land album or Trilogy is worth a mention. Considering on how it gave RnB a route for darker subject matter and themes. Also want to mention the amazing production who worked on those albums, especially producers like Illangelo, Doc McKinney,and DannyBoyStyles

[@Yamari1]

i hate fact that i like trout mask replica unironically.

[@Snolferd]

mood bro

[@gwen_gets_got]

It's unironically good and sounds nice though.

[@alemmingsdeath]

DJ Vadim's U.S.S.R. Repertoire is peak experimental HipHop. Super deep and hazy. Super horizontal.

[@shayneoneill1506]

So heres my take on outsider and experimental art. The only failure mode art has is indifference. If it repulses you, then you've felt something, that art changed how you feel. As far as experimentation, even if the experiment doesnt work its still a success because now you know that that thing isnt worth doing. Being *angry* at the music means that the music is succeeding, because you felt something as opposed to, say, supermarket shopping music that makes you feel nothing.

[@Anti-Identity-Entity]

Yo I make tracks like that Misanthropic by Stallag thing at least once a week. Just me and my 3 year old niece Primal Screaming and breaking stuff with my head. Then I do a a dmx cover and then I do sone really epic porn, but record audio only. Don’t worry, one day I’m gonna release something guys.

[@m1LeyViRuS]

Metal Machine Music is worth mentioning

[@brianhall5377]

Lou Reed at his most challenging. Makes the Velvet Underground sound like the Greatful Dead.

[@Aesir_43]

Alon Mor and Bell's Worth made me interested in Experimental Music.

[@Refrigescere]

Your reactions show exactly what this kind of music is supposed to do. It makes you uncomfortable. It is interesting to just keep pushing through the music that makes you feel like that. You will learn a lot about yourself. I once was so afraid of the song You/Lacerate by Sister Iodine, that my flight instinct kicked in. No other music was ever able to make me feel like this. So, keep looking beyond the surface. Maybe you'll find something you never expected. 😊

[@tmamone83]

People think no one in Captain Beefheart's Magic Band could play their instruments, but they're wrong. Beefheart himself deliberately wrote and arranged all the songs that way!

[@AleX3derS]

I recommend you a band called Midori, their music sounds pretty cool

[@_r0meuu]

I LOVE MIDORI

[@Johnnysmithy24]

I don’t know much about experimental music but I have heard some albums. One I recommend because it’s an absolute masterpiece of avant-garde genre bending by incredible musicians: Transmutation by Praxis Literally a cocktail of musical textures, and pretty approachable compared to much weirder stuff. It’s only instrumental tho except for one song

[@Snolferd]

While not very accessible because of the language (Dutch) Sneakers Fris by Rico en Sticks is a brutally simple yet experimental hiphop track, I'm always looking for new extremes and boundaries in music. Maybe not bordering the line of music/noise, lyrically it's just beyond

[@RayRift]

The Raincoats "Oddyshape" is a classic experimental album of all time. Also, someone has to mention the Japanize psychedelic punk trance band, The Boredoms.

[@lemongold709]

Person Pitch is my favorite album, would be great if you made a video about that

[@antoineguilbeault8025]

In what category goes Merzbow - Pulse Demon? 🤔

[@TennisThom]

For me… definitely in the ugly lol. I would have put pulse demon in this video but I wanted to explore this album in a future video specifically about noise music 😳 Who knows maybe by then it’ll grow on me…

[@biancachristie]

@@TennisThom I'd love to see a video on Merzbow! Especially because you present things in such a genuinely accessible way, even when the music is difficult or even inaccessible to some peoples' ears.

[@brianhall5377]

I Love me some Merzbow. I opened for him years ago and after an all day record shopping spree him and his wife did. They came to my house and passed out on my couch while I recorded some samples from Vinyl records. First time I saw him Live his Wife played a porcelain sink with a steak knife. Awesome

[@bobsbigboy_]

Cap

[@garigokiburi]

Average twitter user fantano fan using terms like "bad art", and classifying music by it's "artistic qualities" but also uses the term 'music is subjective"

[@simontreal]

Do you know Nico's Desertshore ? (It is a good record).

[@theoharisvarnas5315]

I would also add Sun Ra to the list. Give him a look if you don't mind.

[@rexian_247]

an experimental band i would recommend everyone is sonic youth, with good and recommended albums like murray st, goo, rather ripped and daydream nation, they were making pure art. they made music in the style of noise and indie rock.

[@gwen_gets_got]

I like Snail Dilemma. Good album.

[@dani-manson]

Sunset Rubdown has some “ugly” experimental music on their first album “Snake’s Got A Leg” (I’ll still always like the songs tho)

[@rockkiller124]

Lil Ugly Mane's new album is a great experimental album

[@doomsdaydanceparty7646]

I didn't hate any of those avant garde records you showed, honestly thought they were all cool. but if you want the absolute worst experimental album ever here ya go kzbin.info/www/bejne/rZTOgp2Mlq6Uapo

[@TennisThom]

dude… how do you even stumble on an album like this lol?

[@doomsdaydanceparty7646]

@@TennisThom down a rabbithole of tryina find the worst album of all time

[@monophone903]

@@doomsdaydanceparty7646 yeah, this, and I also found this one album that yoko ono and john lennon made called The Wedding Album which is just...why? It was probably the dumbest thing I ever heard

[@brianhall5377]

Not only a bad LP, but just Stupid and a true waste of time.

[@atkkisu]

whats the album with the two hands on the cover ive seen a lot of talk abt it yet never remembered to go give it a listen so now i wanna do exactly that

[@NicolasSequeira]

In some ways, you could call Bad Habits an experiment

[@brianhall5377]

The Shaggs changed my life.And thank God for their father.

[@mexicanson]

A good experimental avant-garde album is 'The Waking Hour' by Dalis Car.

[@Donkey_Glossolalia]

I misread that as "the wanking hour"- which would have been interesting😏. Isn't Dali's Car a Mick Karn & matey from bauhaus project? I should probably find it on KZbin.. byeee x

[@keithmorrison8373]

Another reason the trout mask replica sounds so weird is because it has a shit tone of avant garde and free jazz hair pie back both parts dalis car wild life and especially dechau blues have alot of avant garde jazz influenced melodies or diseinace ranging from goffy almost psychedelic whimsical poetry to terryfing commentary

[@samimustonen2929]

Good content! Keep up the good work!

[@cameleonscrached]

I think you would be intrested in Bull of Heaven's numbered and roman numeral albums.

[@davidg6861]

Supreme content as usual buddy, nice.

[@spacebrownboy]

Is calling some experimental art "bad" an excuse to making bad media analysis and getting away with it?

[@thewitless808]

i unironically love stalaggh

[@Caesar_Online]

Here's a comment, bon appetit 🍲🍴

[@flowerboy_0881]

People should pay more attn to noise music

[@zifralcaoriginal]

I'm a noise musician and yes, people need to apprecciate the weird world of Noise.

[@keithmorrison8373]

The crazy thing is that some people probably enjoy projekt misanthropia and asshole/ snail delima mainly people who like noise music

[@MechanizedWerewolf]

Underrated channel!

[@daria55]

Arcas best album for me is definitely &&&&&

[@nezutant]

RADIO DIVA EXPERIMENTAL MENTIONES

[@dogwelderyt]

you should check out utopia’s soundtrack by cristobal tapia de veer

[@nguoithanthien3251]

I believe the last one was made when someone ate all the food including dirt and worm, and decide to sh*tted on the instruments to make sound

[@nguoithanthien3251]

Rock sh*t for real

[@ember3117]

How do you market this music?

[@rafik5760]

love your content :)

[@coleintheville117]

No mention of clipping. :(

[@Ruzu1_1]

Songs about my cats its good or bad? what yall think?¿

[@laurabenham4583]

its alright

[@Anti-Identity-Entity]

Yo I SWEAR when u were like who would make this? I was actually thinking some YBA British artist from like 2005 from Damien Hurst and Tracy Emins crew. She had her “art”, her real gross ass bed with period blood and used condoms and vomit was in the Tate modern!! Prob still is. And those guys crap sells for crazy money. Learning about British concept “are” was kinda like the first time i realized the world is in a nosedive to the void lol

[@evanmooney5844]

Clearly you don't get it /s

[@garigokiburi]

Clearly he doesn't get it

[@mistapeper1283]

**take any Warp records artist* *done.*

[@I.V.A.Nmusic]

Dude any form of expression is art, art doesn’t always mean good,

[@xairnevado]

thanks for this video

[@Samurairanom90210]

Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeezus

[@DemonicAngelic]

Where’s 001011 by salvia 🤨

[@Clodd1]

19:58 A ghost?

[@thegreenrocket]

☠

[@zeeeeroin9981]

Listen to acid mothers temple

[@chunkeh_monkeh]

cant forget m.i.a!

[@charliebidmead3994]

This cool i like

[@flowerboy_0881]

Power electronics anyone?

[@selflessoscillator]

World philosophy

[@ratazanadeconcreto]

Bach

[@chao3948]

i literally hate your definition of art and people like you in general but im too tired elaborate

[@tomcek.dg3]

Man you look like chico

[@IndustrialFan666]

With all due respect, this is absolutely awful

[@bobsbigboy_]

Listen to Polymelia - Huh?

[@marinewelsh9927]

also how ae some rap songs and you're dead! experimental lmao /mu/ taste go lsiten to some anticon or wobblys wild why and go leave us alone for a few days okay kid?

[@leogg1402]

Oh my god! We found it!! We found the creator of music, the one to decide what is experimental and what isn't, the one who says it all

[@marinewelsh9927]

@@leogg1402 never said or implied that but okay

[@twr412]

Huh?

[@garigokiburi]

I kind of agree