Tenor High C Battle

[@diegolasso8322]

que hace Bocelli en esta lista por favor !!

[@bradycall1889]

It is because, even though he doesn't sing in live operas, he still uses similar techniques to opera singers and was trained classically by Franco Corelli before Maestro Corelli passed away.

[@bradycall1889]

But I hate to admit it as a Bocelli fan, he's not particularly resonant compared to most other tenors on this list.

[@elbuhopagador524]

.....jussi bjorling, one of the best!!!!....

[@bradycall1889]

Sorry for not adding him, I was just satisfied with the number singers who were already on this video. I should make a Part 2 to this video and add him :)

[@ozzietadziu]

Not much of a sampling on this video, but my favorite will always be Franco Correlli.

[@bradycall1889]

Yes his high notes were piercing, steely, and extremely loud. It wouldn't surprise me if, in a hypothetical situation, you got close to him and heard him sing his high notes not only could you hear it clearly but you could also feel it.

[@SagEinmalAmore]

Корелли и Дель Монако будто с другой планеты.

[@bradycall1889]

I know, right???

[@Horichdaslicht1858]

This 1 note gets such disproportionate coverage when there is so much more to being a tenor, but anyway, here goes. Juan Diego Florez can reel them off ad libitum, and even high D sounds effortless for him. At the other end of the tenor scale, Heldentenor Stefan Vinke, not featured here has the most incredibly sustained and powerful High C. It is a wonder that audiences can restrain themselves from applauding in act 3 of Gotterdammerung. I think he delivered this even better than Melchior and Lorenz. It is to the credit of the video that it shows there is far more than just 1 tenor voice, but rather strange that it ends with an uncredited singer in "Ein Schwert verhiess mir der Vater" which does not have a high C!

[@bradycall1889]

Thanks for enjoying! The last singer is Ramón Vinay. The reason I ended it with "Ein Schwert verhiess mir der Vater" was because it was an epic song that is meant to be sung by a tenor. It doesn't have a high C, of course, but it's still an epic, "heroic" song. I think I'll do a part 2 and add Stefan Vinke :)

[@Horichdaslicht1858]

@@bradycall1889 Ein Schwert is certainly one of the greatest passages of the entire cycle, high drama and exquisite lyricism hand-in-hand.

[@bradycall1889]

@@Horichdaslicht1858 Yes I agree

[@Gittas-tube]

Where was Jussi Björling?

[@bradycall1889]

I could've sworn that I added him. Did I forget to add his clip? Or maybe did no picture of him show up on his clip?

[@bradycall1889]

I wait I forgot. I was thinking of someone else other thank Jussi Björling. Sorry there were other good tenors whom I didn't add in this video because I thought that I had enough. For example, I am also somewhat of a fan of Rolando Villazon and Jonas Kaufmann. However, I just thought that enough was enough. I'm probably going to a part 2 to this video, so I think I'll add Jussi Björling later.

[@Gittas-tube]

​@@bradycall1889My apologies, Brady! I found Jussi Björling in part 2.

[@Gittas-tube]

​@@bradycall1889Thank you for adding Jonas Kaufmann, too! He's also a new favourite of mine. I hardly recognise him in the video, he seems to be quite young!

[@bradycall1889]

@@Gittas-tube With all due respect, I'm a bit confused. I haven't released my own Part 2, yet. You may be confusing someone else's video for my own.

[@charliegold3227]

Melchior and Caruso are unsurpassed

[@trillline4563]

Pavarotti the only one.

[@tonymario8118]

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[@bradycall1889]

Honestly they all did good, but some did better than others. My favorites were Del Monaco's and Corelli's. My least favorite was Caruso, though I like his voice after it matured from a lyric tenor to a dramatic tenor.

[@muchogusto491]

Dov'è il RE DEGLI ACUTI SQUILLANTI MARIO FILIPPESCHI???😢

[@gaita1050]

No estando Miguel Fleta,no está completa!!!

[@ariasemusicaslegendadas7657]

Even though Pavarotti's voice is great in lyrical tenor roles, his voice is not that of a lyrical tenor, his voice is much lighter than that of lyrical tenors, and his timbre is whiter in the treble than that of a lyrical tenor, One more thing, Plácido Domingo's passing zone goes from E4 to G4, the tenor spintos goes from D4 to F#4, Corelli, Bonisolli, Martinelli etc. had this passaggio zone

[@bradycall1889]

I disagree. His timbre really wasn't THAT light and bright whenever he actually used his voice properly. His voice sounds lighter and brighter than it naturally is because at times he struggled with technique, despite having other good times in which his technique was good and he was able to resonate properly. I've heard many tenors, even tenors considered by many experts to be "lyric," with much lighter and brighter voices than Pavarotti did in his prime. When people call him a "leggero tenor" they only focus on the recordings of him from after his prime.

[@ariasemusicaslegendadas7657]

​​@@bradycall1889The lyrical tenors with a more "Brilliant" voice than Pavarotti were heroic and belcantist, and to tell the truth, I have never seen a lyrical tenor sound brighter than a tenor lirico-leggero, they have a much more dramatic and full-bodied sound than a tenor lírico-leggero Giuseppe Di Stefano (Tenor lírico) kzbin.info/www/bejne/sH2shnaOi5t3pc0si=LMPoezYHwac7MCKq Luciano Pavarotti kzbin.info/www/bejne/q3XQdZ-Vft95g8Usi=dGmnP7pM5t8aHo8f

[@bradycall1889]

@@ariasemusicaslegendadas7657 Well listen to Pavarotti in his prime 🤷‍♂

[@bradycall1889]

@@ariasemusicaslegendadas7657 Also, it doesn't matter much whether he was a light-lyric or a full-lyric because it doesn't have any meaning with the roles being sung😃😃😃. In other words, there are no "light-lyric" or "lirico-leggero" roles within opera, only lyric roles and leggero roles. I guess I'll agree that later in his life he did lose vocal weight and become a light-lyric. But in his prime, he sounded a lot more like a full-lyric to me.

[@ariasemusicaslegendadas7657]

​@@bradycall1889For me he was always a lirico-leggero, his timbre in the high notes clearly shows this, but whether he was a lyric or not, Pavarotti was certainly one of the greatest tenors of the 60s, 70s and 80s.

[@akethunstrom3579]

Jussi Björling

[@bradycall1889]

I may perhaps make a part 2 and add Jussi Björling.

[@thomasaguilera352]

where is Giuseppe Giacomini?

[@bradycall1889]

Yeah sorry I was too lazy to add everyone

[@HenryWest-s3w]

Mario all the way.

[@michelschulman6143]

The names go too fast. Don't have time to read them.. why ?

[@bradycall1889]

Oh okay idk why I did that. Sorry it was my mistake. Thanks for letting me know!

[@ey8767]

I honestly didn't think that Domingo had a HighC, but well I guess you can do almost anything when you were younger.....

[@ey8767]

I love Mario Lanza's HighC most.

[@bradycall1889]

So he did a few high C's but I don't think very much, unfortunately. Back then his technique used to be so good and he was a great lirico-spinto tenor, but over time his technique got worse and less powerful and I think that now he's a full-lyric tenor without good high notes and with some very awful "baritone" low notes. I guess he's not a horrible singer at this point, just not a particularly great singer.

[@ey8767]

@@bradycall1889 100% agree with your opinion that he is not a particularly great singer. I am a huge fan of Domingo but I have to be honest here: there are other much better singers. But then, of course he is not an awful singer. And there are some operas in which he sang extremely well, such as Tosca. My observation is that he is fine as long as he doesn't sing up to B4 or HighC. And yes I didn't enjoy his baritone singing at all..... Although among all tenors, his voice in the lower and middle register is one of the best. However, I would say his technique did not "get worse". There was somthing wrong with his technique from the beginning. It's just that people's voices get worse when they are older. He was nasal even in the 1960s and 1970s. I am no expert in opera singing, but I think it has something to do with "pushing the mask". This is particularly obvious in the Three Tenors Concert. You can clearly hear that Domingo just sounds different from Carreras and Pavarotti. Carreras and Pavarotti were doing the pharyngeal singing while Domingo was pushing the mask. When I was taking voice lessons, some of the teachers would tell me to dictate words in front of my upper teeth. Gradually I realized that this is pushing the mask and is a major cause of nasality. But for pharyngeeal singing you can clearly hear a "ring". Well as I said I am no expert. If you are interested in this topic, perhaps you can watch some comparison videos regarding the modern singers and old singers. (I recommend General Radames and This is Opera Archive channel). That being said, I still think Domingo is one of the best opera singers. As a musical theatre fan, I was very impressed by his opera performance and it completely changed my previous opinion that opera is boring. He has good acting skills and musicality. Also I do believe he is at least much better than most of the modern singers. For example, people mock him for cracking twice in Turandot (HighC in Questa Reggia and B4 in Nessun Dorma). But there were no other issues apart from the two cracks. He had some really good acting and even looked handome (like a Prince lol). In Nessun Dorma, the most difficult part is the continous A4 and he nailed it; never had any issue. I watched some productions of Turandot in recent years and no one is even comparable to him. But of course my favourite Calaf is still Corelli and nothing is going to change that. In musical theatre, we would say if a performer is a good actor but he is not so good in singing, we still would love to see him live on stage. I do think the same applies to opera. Back in the old days, the greatest singers were at least decent actors, but most of the modern singers have no idea what they are doing. Pavarotti was not a good actor and didn't make lots of movements on stage, but he is still better than most of the opera singers nowadays. And there were other opera singers who have sung or performed musical theatre, such as Ezio Pinza in South Pacific, or Carreras and Kanawa in West Side Story.

[@bradycall1889]

@@ey8767 Yes I agree that he has a combination of both good and bad performances.

[@bradycall1889]

@@ey8767 And yes, he was a handsome, "prince-like" looking dude back when he was young. I still think he looks handsome today but in a different way nowadays.

[@michelschulman6143]

The names are hardly readable. Why is that so ?

[@bradycall1889]

Sorry but I'm a tad confused. The names are clear and obvious I'm pretty sure.

[@antwilliams7816]

Mario lanza was inaudible, not fair comparison for the best one in my opinion.

[@bradycall1889]

I'll admit I was lazy when making this video.

[@stranraerwal]

you stole quite a few "high notes" !

[@bradycall1889]

Yeah sorry I was so lazy at the time I made this video that I took from other people’s compilations to some extent. I promise you though that some of these I did not take from other people.

[@mathiasboucher8061]

bocelli is kinda bad

[@bradycall1889]

Well I disagree, tbh. Can you explain why you don't like him?

[@mathiasboucher8061]

@@bradycall1889 he is very often off key, his high notes sounds kinda screamy, his troat sounds very thight and closed, he has a wobble (probably due to that closed troat singing) we can only hear him because of his microphone. In a big teather, we wouldnt be able to hear him over an orchestra . i personally think that if he wasnt blind, he wouldnt have that level of success.

[@bradycall1889]

@@mathiasboucher8061 Though the one thing I'll agree with is that he doesn't have the same resonance as some of the other tenors in this video, which is something that I'll admit as a Bocelli fan. You're right that he uses a microphone because, though he has occasionally performed in operas live and had done alright (maybe not as good as he would if he could see much better), he is primarily a non-opera singer who sings in an operatic style. And you can hear how, when he performs in a live opera in rare cases, he really isn't THAT good a lot of the time. Afterall, he was trained somewhat by Franco Corelli. His high notes are not where they should be as a tenor. However, his high notes aren't THAT bad. With all due respect, I think that calling his high notes "screamy" all of the time is an exaggeration. Also, where did you get the idea of him singing off key and him having a "wobble" in his voice? I've never heard him with a wobble in his voice at all and he sings all of the right notes in every recording that I've heard of him, both live and in the studio. Sometimes his throat is closed, but in some of his recordings his throat doesn't sound so closed. Also, as a classical-crossover singer, I think he does very good, despite being an okay-but-not-great opera singer. His technique is actually pretty good, just not QUITE AS GOOD as a fully trained professional opera singer. And as I said in the last paragraph, he did get some training from Franco Corelli. Also, back when Luciano Pavarotti was still alive, he liked Bocelli's voice.

[@ey8767]

@@bradycall1889 Well I am not a fan of Bocelli because he is not a good "opera singer" but at least he's fine in terms of singing. True, Bocelli is mostly a "pop singer" with an operatic style but he's not a bad singer. His top register is decent. And by using "decent", I am very conservative in the wording. I really don't understand the musical theatre/pop song "bashing". Other singers like the Three Tenors are bashed all the time for singing pop stuff. Pavarotti sang lots of pop songs with lots of pop singers in concerts, but in his own "opera-pop" style. Carreras/Kanawa/Horne recorded West Side Story for Leonard Bernstein and they totally rocked it! Especially Carreras. If I were to walk in a theatre and see West Side Story, I don't even know what to expect because he was so good in that recording. Apparently very few musical theatre performers can sing at that level, if any. (Their focus is on performing anyway). But lots of people say musical theatre is bad for opera singers because they wouldn't be able to do opera again, which is a very weird conclusion when there are so many renowned opera singers doing musical theatres. Domingo has sung Perhaps Love with John Denver and that song was a hit, which made him famous even in the pop world. He also has several pop albums and got several Grammy Awards for those pop stuff. And yeah he totally looked like a pop singer when he was singing Besame Mucho, a real crossover singer. So again, I don't understand the Bocelli bashing for singing pop songs. I mean as long as you are singing it well, what's wrong with it? Do opera fans have to be so “high and above"? So if the question is "Does Bocelli have a good HighC as an opera singer?" No, because probably he can only be heard using a microphone. But does he have a good HighC as a singer who sings operatically? At least I think he does. Other people may have different opinions which I respect, but I do think those are two different questions.

[@bradycall1889]

@@ey8767 I agree with you that he still has good technique pop singer-wise, even if he's not the best "opera singer."

[@gaynomadic]

Bit cruel to include Bocelli murdering Donizetti.

[@bradycall1889]

I'll admit that I never heard of Donizetti.

[@gaynomadic]

@@bradycall1889Omg. He composed an enormous number of beautiful operas. You have to start listening to them.

[@bradycall1889]

@@gaynomadic Is he the one who wrote that aria with 9 high C's that Juan Diego Florez is famous for?

[@gaynomadic]

@@bradycall1889 Yes.