Tensions High on Arctic Fuel Delivery | Ice Pilots NWT

The DEW system, the Distant early Warning Line was a system of radar stations in the northern Arctic region of Canada. They are being dismantled by the government but the extreme remote nature of these once secret facilities makes them hard to supply. Over 400,000 litres of diesel fuel need delivering to these radar stations and in perilous conditions.
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Buffalo Airways is an airline based in Yellowknife, Northwest Territories, Canada. They mainly fly WWII-era piston powered propeller planes in minus 40 degrees and land on tiny strips of tarmac in the tundra.
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[@larryhigginson3549]

When a company hires someone, gives them a promise and then doesn't fulfill the agreement the employee deserves to know straight up why the agreement was broken. If no explanation comes the employee should leave because it will never get better. Bad call for your company Joe.

[@jamesleesley]

The mechanic quit and the owner of the company acted like he didn’t care. No way would I work for people like that.

[@rancherfarmerguy]

He was screwed over and he quit. More power to him.

[@jjt1093]

I agree also why was the priority not given to the Canadian ? Most European countries will give the job to their own people first then Foreign 2nd.

[@quackula9190]

Short staff you say? Pay more!

[@LeVoyageurConscientise]

This company run on duct tape, tie rap, and epoxy tube.

[@bradhanson4803]

I couldn't work for him

[@mohammadfaizal8461]

Just great...

[@MBrieger]

They are completely disfunctional.

[@peanutbutterisfu]

Juan seemed like he was at the level of chuck but without the attitude. It’s a shame Joe let him go.

[@sirfajruladha6963]

Juan is a true professional. Get the job done and walk off from the old grumpy Joe👍✊

[@peanutbutterisfu]

Yeah if ur in the middle of a job you should finish before leaving

[@fritzstudios8571]

I've a lot of respect for Juan

[@SR-bh5jd]

I’m surprised this group gets an airplane off the ground.

[@AdventureStanger]

I stopped watching this on cable years ago because of Joe’s lack of interpersonal skills. Nobody enjoys working for a grumpy person. If he could learn to smile and have a little fun, the company would be more successful with happier people.

[@brianinski]

joe is another form of 'cancel culture' a toxic 2 year old

[@brucesmith9144]

Problem with managers like that, people quit on them before they’ve left the payroll and work suffers.

[@jonasbaine3538]

@@brucesmith9144 yep. bitter employees who hate their boss but love the job. tough situation to be in with not many similar jobs in that area.

[@tommypaget2294]

Buffalo managed to stay afloat becused if people like Joe....he’s tough...many similar operators have long since went bankrupt. Imagine having 5 m.$ airplanes awaiting contracts....the wait isn’t free...there rent to pay (no not house tent, an aircraft hanger rent, do you know how much it cost to rent aircraft hangers?)....staff to pay....train new staff to replace old staff, insurance, etc. if a staff dings an aircraft....it’s about $180,000 for an Electra’s prop, $450,000 for a turbine engine....just because a staff screwed-up (of course, that staff could say sorry for the $340,000 damage he made). Joe’s under pressure more than any for his staff, who get monthly salary. It makes a $800 air ticket looks ridiculous.....should be more like $2,400 fir the same air ticket, considering what risks the airline owner goes through. No wonder alot of Joe’s competitors are now bankrupt.

[@rudywalls8544]

He's there to keep his business going....not to make friends....safety and efficiency are key.

[@JacobBaron]

This series is like a documentary on how to abuse your employees and build a toxic work environment.

[@larrysproul9424]

Isn't that the truth ? I have never seen employees treated so poorly .

[@yasmanisantiesteban9169]

Well done Juan that’s how a good worker do at least you get the job done that’s how you prove how good your are 💪

[@scrappyny7432]

I used to work for a small general aviation outfit back in the 90's before moving on to another career. We were a full service facility for mostly Lears, Falcons, Hawkers and Gulfstreams. Seeing the politics and drama in this episode brought back bad memories which I have not thought of in decades. For years I missed being an aircraft mechanic but after this episode I have become grounded again. Thanks Buffalo Joe!

[@adamnixon2886]

My dad was a pilot used to tease him whenever I'd catch him taking a nap I'd wake him up by saying "pull up pull up terrain alert pull up!"

[@mr_potatoyt8019]

That’s so wholesome 🥺🥺

[@Thecloudsshepherd]

fascinating video to show young crew what not to do in terms of Human factors... This Guy is bullying everybody around him creating unnecessary stress, bringing the moral down and increasing the risks of incidents and injuries... Very sad to see. Treat people with respect.

[@Agislife1960]

A reality TV series that was worth watching, the head mechanic is my favorite, what a character and I can fully attest to the fact that Carhartt clothing is the official working apparel of the Arctic

[@robertoler3795]

thank god I dont work at a place like that. it was fun watching the Turkey thing. I was a B777 Captain TRI/TRE for Turkish Airlines. for 14 years...now a test pilot for a major manufacture in SEattle...this is a fascinating look see if the CFIT (controlled flight into terrain) GPWS was real. this is near incompetence. this is a fundamentally unsafe operation, I am sort of surprised the Candian authorities have not moved. the FAA would have this is horrible on the other hand nice wheel landing on the 3

[@Epic_Routes]

"Coming back from Turkey then heading to work immidiately" Which duty regs are they following?

[@The777017]

Obvious that this business owner has no clue on how to run a business. First of all you treat your employees with respect because they are the ones that make you who you are they make sure that your stuff arrives and departs on time and I'm sorry for someone to change an engine like that that's pretty impressive he had a damn good mechanic. To be a good owner or a good business supplier is to listen to your employees your employees will make you who you are or they will turn around and drop you right on your face think of it this way when an employee leaves an employer is because the employer was doing something wrong or the employee felt or knew that the employer had a problem. Is pretty obvious that this employer is a drunk and drinks quite heavily judging by his attitude at work. It is also no wonder that these like guys lost their contract in the United States Forest service and now are no longer allowed to dump retardant here

[@agnieszkapiasecka4124]

There is scarcity of good jobs in Canada. Majority of those you can get via open access are paid so low that you can hardly pay your rent. Interesting jobs - firemen, forrest rangers, pilots - this all is not easy to access just because. Not through any normal job advertisement. This is the whole reason why Joe acts like that.

[@jimjoe9945]

He still in business....don't buy into the drama....

[@malikroy9069]

So when the Indian guy quit she talked bad about him, that he wasn't strong enough, now your own husband has quit and you're also thinking of quitting the same company too.

[@robertbruner7429]

I'm retired now, but would have lasted about a day with someone like this Buffalo Joe guy! I wouldn't have cared if he was giving free round trips to the moon. No one should tolerate that kind of behavior with an employer.

[@JamRock_Jr.]

Trust me you ain't gonna survive anywhere if for long if all you do is just give up when someone is like Joe. Life ain't that easy mate.

[@robertbruner7429]

@@JamRock_Jr. Like I said I'm retired but enjoyed a long and successful career. "Surviving" was the easy part. I did that in addition to constantly advancing. Perhaps what you're referring to as "not surviving," I think of as 'refusing to tolerate.' My working years were spent with deadlines, pressure and competition but professional respect was always shown by my superiors and earned by those under me. Joe's taking his own frustrations out on competent employees I view as unacceptable. I think it kills morality in a corporation, promotes lawsuits from the employee base, and creates hostility in the workplace that leads to people not achieving their potential.

[@brandonbaney5734]

Joe clearly has no idea how to manage a business or people

[@StarrDust0]

Joe's an azzhole of a boss, typical for small companies. The trouble with these managers is that they treat people like trash because they know they can always find someone to replace whoever leaves. It's clear Juan paid his dues and deserved to go instead, rather than the new guy, but Joe doesn't care about fairness or he has a bad memory or a grudge against Juan. While we all would love to leave bad companies, it's better to have a plan B in place first. They have some nice employees in this company but it's some people in mgmt that ruin it like Joe.

[@TraceUK]

He’s dead now. Died in 2012

[@ecovention]

@@TraceUK Who died.

[@agnieszkapiasecka4124]

@@ecovention Arnie died, not Joe.

[@kd5nrh]

That tends to be why these companies stay small. Better bosses turn small operations into big businesses by attracting more customers, then the best employees.

[@WitchidWitchid]

@Dmetsys Very true. Its hit or miss. There are some great small companies and some lousy ones. Same holds true with the big corporations.

[@scottcol23]

If the near CFIT incident they had in the Electra was real and not staged..... There is nothing worse than hearing the GPWS call out Terrain Terrain pull UP when in IMC ... Its never happened to me but I can only imagine that would be a pucker moment. At least they didnt have a 1500 foot peak above them at that moment. Could have gone really bad.

[@brianinski]

joe is an emotional child

[@chryseluna1648]

There’s no way I’d work with Jo, life too short to work for someone who talks to you like a POS

[@shem4753]

Why they are hiring people from Czech republic and people with work permit in canada when there is thousands of pilots and AME looking for jobs as aviation is dead right now and there is barely any jobs in aviation markets right now.

[@Tadrjbs]

These videos are old. Arnie Schreder passed May of 2012 so what's going on?

[@ElitistMagi]

Joe also passed May of this year.

[@whistlinvladimirec5367]

@@ElitistMagi What?! Why, how?

[@djtimwe]

@@ElitistMagi NOPE! Joe is very much ALIVE!

[@markdavis2475]

@@ElitistMagi Rubbish! Check your sources before posting garbage!

[@TraceUK]

@@djtimwe Joe died in 2012!

[@michaeldavis2347]

I think the stereotype of canadians being nice and apologizing for everything is wrong 😂

[@OriginalDegree]

Ohh we’re nice but we mess around lmao 😂 Keep in mind this is northern Canada

[@natecote1971]

Why work for unapprecitve employers when there are so many places with much better pay and much more professional, respectful owners!?!?! That's what the one good That came from covid it's making employers wake up and treat their workers better or loose them!

[@earlgreystoke3324]

Toxic company culture...starts with the owner.

[@brianjohnston9822]

I always say it sucks to hirer foreign staff when you have fully certified people on site. The engineer never should have been hired if there was a certified Canadian available.

[@simeon2851]

This is happening more often than anyone cares to admit.

[@ramblingrob4693]

@@simeon2851 cheaper wages an will say yes sir No sir

[@zoki.to974]

capitalism for you my friend, "healthy" competition keeps salaries low

[@scottcol23]

For those in the Plane Savers family, At 27:37 you can see C-FDTH which is C-FDTD's sister! DTD is Mikey's D-Day DC-3 that he saved in 2019 from total derelict conditions.

[@simeon2851]

Juan got shafted.

[@ramblingrob4693]

I get moaned at for being 3 min late at work but its totally ok to stay behind an finish the job in my time without being paid. Manager don't care if it's my time as long as I arrive on -time, if I leave on-time an job not finished I get moaned at again next morning

[@chowchow2386]

Something wrong about Buffalo Joe giving priority to green card holder over a Cdn. Lost a lot of respect for Buffalo because of that choice.

[@scottcol23]

Dont let that fake drama tarnish your view of Joe, He is a hell of a guy in real life. In this show these things were staged, and for the most part scripted. All the arguments and beefs with the rampys were fabricated because a well oiled and functioning company makes for bad viewing.

[@jaminova_1969]

@@scottcol23 Says who?

[@matthewbridges1438]

NOOOOOOOO HE SHOULD HAVE QUIT before he got the new engine on. Damnit!!

[@williamsmith7406]

81 years old. Survivor of infantry unit in Vietnam. Hired to run an old dilapidated trucking company that reminds me of this beat up airline. You can't haul freight without good help. It's the people that work for you that makes it go, Joe. It's the people. And that comes before the planes. I used to have a lot of respect for the way you made it work. Not anymore.

[@HenauderTitzauf]

When I was in South Korea, I had the pleasure of helping RedBall deliver diesel fuel to our radar(?) site at Palgansan. We used 2 1/2 ton trucks up there and back. We all carried about 21-24 55 gallon drums in each truck, with I believe 4-5 trucks in each trip. What an adventure, but, very scary on the very narrow roads up there. Not sure if rock top is still there, if so, hi up there!

[@johnkidd1226]

Thats about 8,000 pounds, almost double the load capacity of the truck. Yep, a little iffy on mountain roads, I would say.

[@convair21]

Joe and his tactics would not survive in the USA. He thought that his aviation business was the only aircraft operation in Canada.

[@ConvairDart106]

Try working for any Bering sea Captain!

[@TheMrLebaron]

H'es the only one in t hat part of the world that will take on any contract. There are others in the region, but these guys fly these old planes because a modern plane can't handle lots of these runways. The Russians general run 70s jets and 50s Prop planes in their colder regions as well. And lots of their places are built from the grounp to deal with this kinda stuff

[@wrxpilot]

That’s definitely true these days, thank goodness. But back 10+ years ago, there were some 135 outfits with guys like Joe running the show. Unfortunately I worked for a couple of places like that, and yeah it sucked. Now it’s just cringey watching his “management” style. It’s unsafe, creates turmoil, and causes excessive business expenses from high employee turnover. I’d imagine almost any ATP rated pilot in the US would walk off the job immediately if they encountered management like this. There’s just too many good opportunities to put up with it. I love this show, but Joe is a clown.

[@MahiAviation]

These videos are a star in the black void of modern KZbin :)

[@lonpearson2134]

Without union representation, Buffalo employees are at the mercy of a tyrant boss. When seniority is ignored and job status is adjudicated by their bosses mood, it’s bound to cause tensions.

[@sgd5k292]

Is there a part II for this video? Back in the '70's I had a job flying as a co-pilot in a C-47 and this really hit home with the segment of Jeremy's first flight experience. When I was just a little older than him I went through a similar situation after getting checked out in a DC-3 and my first flight as a co-pilot in the C-47. Very nerve racking, but got though it just fine. What an exhilarating sense of accomplishment when it was over!

[@bloothedog4443]

They seem to be suffering from lack of supervision. Every department needs a super with authority. Managers become micro-managers without them, and all the team members become "captains" who can't give other captains orders. (see book: The One Minute Manager)

[@thatguy7085]

Not Cold War Radar… it is an ARSR-4 radar for ATC. It can be used to track other stuff… but made for ATC.

[@safetyfirstintexas]

Joe of no honor and full of hate. Good thing he's the only wings in town.

[@80AFT]

I have a suspiccion that Joe makes a drama without reason. Juan deserved that ride not a longhaired european

[@TheHillpeter]

If a employer can't keep his word or contract on hire. Find a new job

[@r.scottmacleod4564]

THEY DON'T HAVE THE CONTRACT...Joe has the contract, if Joe wants to lose his staff and contract that is Joe's problem. 27:38 DTD!!!!....now I know why I Watched this even more.

[@paintballer7171986]

You can tell Mikey is a wpos

[@DJea-ni2yk]

Good landing there Jeremy I knew you could pull it off! Keep nailing things and your a shoe in. Hang in there brother you'll make it.

[@TraceUK]

He’s dead now :(

[@jamesleesley]

If you’re doing good financially, let the 2nd mechanic go on the trip (delivering fuel). I think it would’ve been ok. I promise.

[@Kill-Dozer]

"Coming up a Yeti might attack at any moment" ah reality TV.

[@aurelnegrea7617]

It’s all about the fkng money never enough to pay the boys. Nkle dime. Aaa forget it. Those conditions

[@vandermolen404]

Love this series!! Thank you!

[@unguidedone]

what a bad supervisor

[@hughbowman7591]

So how old are these shows. It does strike the imagination as unbelievable. That anyone can keep these vintage planes operating. Just a matter of time the major components will just not be available

[@thomasm1964]

The number of advertisements on here is just ridiculous.

[@ramblingrob4693]

what ads. I never saw none. You still haven't got adblock in 2021.?

[@pwrplnt1975]

I can't imagine the cost of maintenance on that Electra! What an amazing bird!!

[@CraigyBabyJ]

How do these channels get a way with ripping TV shows?

[@noreenhewson6933]

You’re not running a hot rod shop, Joe. There’s a little more to this.

[@lekoman]

I was very sad to hear Kelly had passed away. She was one of the best people on this show. Her and Arnie.

[@janphilipp4255]

What happened to her??

[@cluelessbeekeeping1322]

@@janphilipp4255 Joe, in a fit of rage, killed her. It must have been awful!

[@janphilipp4255]

@@cluelessbeekeeping1322 you must be kidding me

[@cluelessbeekeeping1322]

​@@janphilipp4255 I was kidding, but I can imagine Angry Baby Joe has some place where he kills and buries dead hookers and ice cream truck drivers. It just seems logical what Angry Joe would do.

[@attari56]

@@cluelessbeekeeping1322 well that was dark lmao

[@natedjouadi9271]

1

[@yvesbajulaz]

How can they not know where they exactly are (the elektra)? No gps? Joe got a garmin 295 handheld in the dc3….

[@davidhoffman1278]

GPS can get increased errors the closer to the magnetic poles that you are. We in the USA have had aircraft mistake one airfield for another airfield that is in line with the first airfield. Ebarrassing stuff like landing a C-17 or B747 into a short runway general aviation airport that is in line with the intended destination airfield.

[@yvesbajulaz]

@@davidhoffman1278 cmon, basic gps gets you most of the time to within 30 feet... even an ipad gets you to the end of the rwy...

[@davidhoffman1278]

@@yvesbajulaz , At or above the Artic Circle GPS becomes less precise and less reliable.

[@yvesbajulaz]

@@davidhoffman1278 Seems like you lose the altitude component and can have noise, but by how much are you losing lateral precision?

[@davidhoffman1278]

@@yvesbajulaz , From what sources I have reviewed today it seems to increase the potential lateral error by 2x to 4x. So that +/- 50 metre potential error at the equator grows to a 100 to 200 metre potential error at the artic circle.

[@trolltv3722]

looking at these videos, you know why they shut down buffalo airways.

[@aircobra8880]

Did they really shut down buffalo ??? "YYYYYYY AAAAAAA YYYYYYY... People can get another job... I would not work eight seconds for that pc. of compost...

[@trolltv3722]

@@aircobra8880 yes canadian officials have revoked their license. They shut down in 2015 i think. Their less than stellar safety records ultimately fueled the decision

[@AbsolutelyEverybody1]

@@trolltv3722 so is Buffalo Airways operating at all or do they cease to exist??

[@trolltv3722]

@@AbsolutelyEverybody1 I checked this - the license for commercial flight had been revoked at some point and been reinstated somewhere in 2016 i think.

[@AbsolutelyEverybody1]

@@trolltv3722 so Buffalo Airways still operates?

[@grantt1589]

I remember watching this afew years ago, glad to see it again

[@mac9954]

No one would pass a drug test love it

[@aurelnegrea7617]

Wheat money ?? You flying a dc 3. What a fk ?? Build time That s. It bro. You lucky

[@not_yet_nifter-6423]

Fun fact...Canada has military outpost in the far north which use very high power microwave beams to carry data back down south. So powerful that birds are instantly killed when they fly into them.

[@fhuber7507]

Their business model is: F the employees as long as they can...

[@RuplesBicycle]

Ive learned telling employees like Kelly good job and they think they own the place. I give my 14 employees a cash gift from My own pocket for Christmas. No taxes just a personal gift from me to them. They get two weeks vacation and overtime is a privilege as far as im concerned. No one has ever complained about extra hrs.

[@scheusselmensch5713]

Quick fact. Very, very few professional bush pilots can stand watching this show. Usually it's because we're lost in a whiteout LOL.

[@JamRock_Jr.]

I feel sorry for Kelly but then again why does Kelly simply worry for nothing. Joe. Is angry with Juan but Joe isn't angry with you Kelly cuz hrs just made about the shipment tat didn't get delivered. Sometimes you can't take things so serious so I suggest to give it time Kelly don't simply get worked up unless Joe tells you to leave. So cheer up Kelly.

[@RuplesBicycle]

Kelly's husband arguing with the boss and cussing him? He and Kelly too comfortable. Bet ain't the first job they lost over their false sense of top of the food chain 😂

[@mikehilbert9349]

Joe said if you don't like it, you can get on the bus. Juan did what Joe said. Not sure what Joe had against Juan, but he was too full of it to explain why he shafted him. Juan did what Juan had to do.

[@WitchidWitchid]

I was wondering how long Buffalo has been in business and if they got to service the Dew Line back when it was being built or while it was still in service. Basically over the decades the technology changed to the point where the Dew Line was no longer all that effective. Arnie seems like good natured individual. He's been around too long to let things bother him. Even when Joe gets into one of his mood swings.

[@zoidberg444]

You know Mikey McBryan has a youtube channel - he did this great series called "Plane Savers" and actually when its not business Buffalo Joe is actually quite a nice guy but when its business he becomes a bit of a curmudgeon. I think its a bit of an act to keep everyone - especially the younguns on their toes.

[@garvinhooper]

good peopel are the most important asset to any company, Joe can't seem to get that through his head, there is no way I could work for a man like him

[@208miuwu]

Takes a special breed of Man to fly up in that area. Y'all be safe God Bless

[@ultimawolf1746]

If i was old enough i would definetly try and join buffalo and fly planes

[@raizabdulhak9327]

finally the intro is back

[@clintmullins4406]

Sounds like a sucky place to work.

[@jacquessmith8653]

Joe could split the trips to the engineers! Poor management.

[@AngeliqueKaga]

Start looking around for another job.

[@takumi2023]

i don't like all the censoring wtf. just let people swear.

[@AbdulHafeez-cq6oo]

good job by the boy and impress the difficult man

[@AmmoMaster]

now we know what idiot put a breaker in an un assessable hidden spot on the APU

[@bridgethamilton6057]

How did poor KELLY die?

[@pwrplnt1975]

I hope they know there are tons of former military aircraft still around looking for a job.

[@frankagent7472]

Military aircraft can not be converted to civilian use in Canada. Not allowed.

[@rafekirkcaldy]

Joe doesn’t know how to look after valuable staff

[@monikathomas4985]

Eh? 😄 You know you’re in Canada

[@Northern_Farmer]

I just say eh a little bit

[@80AFT]

The P- Orion is based on the Electra

[@user-fr3hy9uh6y]

ICAO require GPWS on all aircraft carrying 9 passengers or more. Our BT, DC3 conversion had GPWS instslled. The video stated that only their Electra had a GPWS. Are they flying the DC3's without one? WoW!

[@aleksbiteman5324]

How long has ICAO required that? This is an older show

[@user-fr3hy9uh6y]

@@aleksbiteman5324 must be the case, i found it in a 2015 Canadian Advisory Circular.

[@j2simpso]

I have my doubts that this is filmed in Canada. Why is milk in gallon plastic jugs and not plastic bags like the rest of Canada? 🤔

[@jamesking1265]

barely ever see bags of milk west of Manitoba

[@michaelgrey7854]

The worst thing for this company is Joe. Sometimes an intuative leader is not the best thing to make important decisions for z company.

[@harpo6203]

Everyone's under pressure to perform, but nowhere do I hear a "We need your help" or a "Thanks for the extra effort." Staffing shortages should be no surprise.

[@godslove8767]

Hahaha seen this work backbiting when I was up in fort Mac in the oil fields. Am happy am doing my own thing now.

[@ElitistMagi]

RIP Joe, RIP Arnie

[@djtimwe]

Kindly get your facts RIGHT! Joe is ALIVE & WELL but Arnie left us in 2012. Kelly also left us in 2019. May their souls continue resting in power.

[@markdavis2475]

@@djtimwe Don't feed the trolls mate! Various people keep posting saying Joe passed away, not sure what motivates them to do this!

[@jimmunro4649]

What no GPS

[@joeljacott1700]

Miss the original team song of ice pilots Buffalo wings!! If you know you know!

[@joejoe2928]

🌞WOW WHAT EXCELLENT PILOTS DANGEROUS RUNWAY WITH NO LIGHTS

[@guillermomontoyo]

Is the intro song by one of those alternative Canadian bands?

[@jempoof]

Wan is good, the other guy had a terrible hair cut. why didnt he let Wan go?