Tenz On How Bad the PC Specs on VCT Master Madrid

Tenz biggest complaint in Masters Madrid
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[@zayaV]

new vct strat: 5 controllers to crash enemy pc

[@getrogo4474]

goes both ways

[@CzAnimations]

​@getrogo4474 just smoke one site and hit the other.

[@S41N7]

do not give prx ideas please.

[@asterales0088]

@@S41N7 ohh hell naw

[@zvzzbzzdy]

​@@S41N7😂😅

[@WitchyTrain]

Double digit fps is actually crazy for PC setups in a major esports tournament at a big venue put on by a billion dollar company. They need to get that fixed especially considering valorant is not very difficult to run and can easily be over 200 fps on a mid range pc. This is a totally valid complaint.

[@twanheijkoop6753]

It's actually crazy how shit the specs have to be to drop below 100 no matter what's going on. There are APU's out now that don't drop that low.

[@HubertKingHebra]

me having a laptop i5 11th gen with intel iris xe have 120fps 😂😂😂

[@shinefake48]

is not the max frames the game can hit, is the stability, valorant drops fps like crazy for no reason sometimes, don't know what to say

[@ryancrafar3733]

Riot shit pc spec n valve crashing game mid tourney with no replay. Whats going on?

[@dinnerboons1504]

As a player who plays on 60 fps. Yes.

[@RayReyRei]

Having worse setups in a major event than the average plat players nowadays is just insane 💀

[@tacocat1705]

Im that average plat player. I'm still rocking a 1660super and I can get over 150 fps on all graphics settings maxed. (144hz)It's insane how they're dropping to double digit when the game isn't even that graphics intensive

[@nickszns]

@@tacocat1705 Alright but they are also recording for the broadcast, have cameras, and a ton of other measures im assuming. Also no plat lobby is gonna run a double controller comp which destroys frames. Still inexcusable, riot literally has as much budget as they need

[@MsWhiskey974]

To be fair, it's an official event so cameras should be handled by another PC, and so should recording with external capture cards. The PCs they use should be sterile of any programs other than Valorant and Vanguard, and the OS should also be optimized for the sole purpose of playing and allocating all resources to a single application. There is no excuse for such a big event not to implement such simple measures considering the budget they have at their disposal.

[@Mxmgfr]

I'm playing on a school laptop with an i3 and I'm getting 120-150 valorant FPS 👍 no way valorant can't afford more than a school

[@_shut__up_5504]

@@nickszns​​⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠Recording has little to no effect on your fps in game unless you have bad wifi or a very, VERY bad computer. I can’t imagine how cheap riot went on the pc’s to have double-digit frames at any point for a game that’s so easy to run. Also, double controller happens all the time in plat lobbies, especially on maps like breeze and especially with the brand new controller agent, it doesn’t destroy frames for most players.

[@dsuffers3032]

At least he didn't crash the game mid tournament

[@monsieurmonkeybutt3697]

he actually blue screened one time

[@hitta6213]

cs2 reference

[@Ake-ox2yj]

Poor Jame

[@ilzafadilatulhaq1780]

@@monsieurmonkeybutt3697 source?

[@LanceyValorant]

@@monsieurmonkeybutt3697 i wanna see LMAO

[@teoriskai]

There goes my excuses of playing bad with 70 fps

[@sarthakdalal5945]

Don't worry, you still have the excuse. He got double digit fps only momentarily when there was a lot of util on screen. You and I get 70 fps the whole time and 40 fps during lot of util😂

[@yalocaldex]

@@sarthakdalal5945 bro I have 8 fps when I'm in viper ult on icebox😭

[@MadeForD]

@@yalocaldex yall are masochists/sadists. how and why do you even play at that point?

[@germytv]

@@MadeForD did you just learn new words? let ppl play a game they enjoy lmfao

[@kit4678]

@@MadeForD I duod with a friend for 80 hours on a complete garbage asus laptop, most of the time I was around 12-17 fps, but anytime is util even activated or used or even if i just shot my gun my fps would drop to 2-6, sometimes even 0 for likr 2 second lmao, only reason being its literally the only friend I have and he didnt habe a console anymore so yeah...

[@amithrao8127]

Riot can make a 4090 build with the money spent on skins by about 20 players. 💀💀💀

[@rayafk8502]

They could buy the 4090 with the money I’ve spent on skins 💀

[@ria_x_rose]

Knowing riot, instead they'll just fire another another batch of loyal employees and then raise the prices on their skins 💀

[@xaviergarza5763]

Lmao a lot of ppl actually have bought enough bundles to fund one maxed out setup per account 😂😂😂

[@Nharayana]

You dont need 4090 for 240 fps Val is cpu bound, so a recent cpu and a 3060 will give you 500+ fps

[@projectx5154]

​@@Nharayanayeah but the point of the comment is they can buy top of the line setup so easily, yet they didn't even afford a good setup like you mentioned

[@peti3543]

ngl not having maxed out pcs in a lan tournament is just crazy💀

[@azamaziz7139]

You can't even tell the difference unless you're a pro...wait a minute

[@fayenotfaye]

It doesn’t even cost that much to build PCs that get good fps in Valorant. All you need is like a RTX 4060 and a 7800x3d. Boom, 500-700 fps.

[@b3n751]

@@fayenotfaye you dont even need the 4060. Valorant is heavy CPU reliant. A 3080 combined with a top teir cpu and youll get 500.

[@fayenotfaye]

@@b3n751 a 4060 is slower than a 3080, I’m using the 4060 as an example because there’s a good chance they would buy whatever the latest generation is at the time.

[@cronusciller2124]

@@fayenotfaye i’ve got a 1060 and a newer 12600kf (don’t judge my bottlenecks) and i still regularly get 200 minimum fps at full quality 1440p. like they must be running off some integrated graphics or something for that level of performance. any recent cpu and gpu younger than the competitors should have done better than he described.

[@PEPERPAINSLULW]

double digit is nuts bro. like i get about 100 on a 2014 prebuilt

[@pierrotzzz]

@@abhishekk9349 what do u even mean

[@novicemoon]

true it is nuts, i get 100 fps on my midrange laptop, and for a tourney that big its kind of nuts

[@Nbunasuis24]

@@novicemoon your 100fps is not consistent, you need around 400fps to be consistent around 200fps even when a lot of utilities and effects are on the screen

[@novicemoon]

@@Nbunasuis24 nah i have got the vods of consistent fps, without v sync and fps cap its around 140 but capping it to 105 its consistent 105 fps and the max it drops is 100 some optimization via the nividia software keeps the fps consistent

[@boleds4316]

Same, my old server cpu from haswell generation run 200+ easily and never drop below 100. They probably using 1st gen intel cpu or pre ryzen amd cpu lmao

[@rollingthunderinho]

240hz is unacceptable for LAN in 2024 considering all of these pro have been using 360hz for years now

[@jerms99]

the monitor was the least problematic honestly edit explanation: if the pcs can’t run smokes with more than double digit fps. it would be less beneficial to use a monitor with higher hz.

[@blentrithasi9303]

240hz doesn't make that big of a difference let's be honest

[@seaBBB]

@@blentrithasi9303they should still be dedicated to maintaining parity across the regions no? this is the highest level of competition they shoukd at least try to make it seem like it

[@HaiHoang-db2zc]

​@@blentrithasi9303 yes, 240hz to 360hz is not much of a difference and only matters at the highest level of play. Oh wait...

[@jerms99]

@@HaiHoang-db2zc the whole point is, if your fps can’t even reach 360 you’d rather have the lower hz. because the pcs were so shit they couldn’t even use the 360hz. my fucking pc runs val at 500-700 fps. and my cpu is only 300 dollars. they’re being cheap.

[@ryushidou4]

riot just how hard is it to buy ryzen 5 5600x

[@Dan-kz6tq]

for riot? extremely hard HAHAHAHAH. they don't give a fuck

[@azriel4376]

make it cheaper with non x 5600, mine easily run at 380+ fps stable medium settings with rx 6600, only cost like 550$

[@user-jn1px7rp3h]

@@azriel4376 actually, ryzen 5800x3d would be much better and there's small difference in price with 5600.

[@ryushidou4]

@@azriel4376 why make it cheaper when u earn millions everyday lmfaoo riots greedy af

[@bruh-nq5px]

@@user-jn1px7rp3h the 5800x3d is over double the price what are you talking about lmao

[@Alpha_2-4]

Bro I play on a laptop with an external monitor and I get constant 180+ fps.. double digit fps in Masters?? is just crazy

[@legendaryz_ch]

Riot games doesn't care about anything but your money

[@agelitedexblue]

Double digit fps on usually low graphics is insane for esports

[@nobody5197]

How tf are riot providing PCs that can only run double digit on Valorant. Literal potatoes? Or are they just stingy since they don't have a sponsor providing PCs for free.

[@crazzylion2992]

Tenz dropping a José Mourinho reference lol

[@Kevinindya]

Something and jason talked about it too. Talking about setting the pc to 240hz

[@J1nx_exe]

I feel like valorant asks more resources now than it did a few months ago... I can't even run a steady 190fps anymore atm...

[@poggeroski]

My ascendant ass sitting in front of my $6000 PC getting 1k+ fps while TenZ gets Radiant every act and can do well in pro matches on double digit fps

[@AritifyexZ]

Doesn't val limit your fps to 500?

[@poggeroski]

@@AritifyexZ not if you uncap your fps and turn on the fps counter in the stats page

[@KrelosWanchez]

@@poggeroski you should cap your fps though, it reduces some input delay compared to if your running it on unlimited

[@capiscuul]

W misinformation

[@AEONIC_MUSIC]

Just cap ur fps 3-5 frames under monitor refresh rate with rtss and make sure v sync is off. I'm pretty sure you get the best latency that way you mean need g sync for it to work I cannot remember

[@haseungjung605]

those pc's like mine fr

[@DreamFortressss]

that is actually hard to believe, and yeah they should definitely upgrade.

[@RealKarai]

my brother has a gt730 shitbox in his pc an gets almost a 200fps on low settings stretched res im confused...

[@destructaphoenix6679]

Jose mourinho reference lol love to see it

[@tanmayarora8722]

I was searching for this because nobody else seem to have noticed it

[@zephyre6613]

just a 16 gb ram and a good 13th gen cpu can easily get you guys like over 200 fps since val is a cpu intensive game

[@joeroganpodfantasy42]

i am curious what PCs were they using ?

[@visugames5697]

There goes my last excuse

[@tansworld2513]

Bro what type of pcs did ibuypower provide them with, the case was massive, so was the case just half empty then lmao??

[@ShadowAngelS2K]

Pretty sure LoL Worlds also had this. There was a pro view and in the corner was the fps, it was roughly 90fps for a team fight which are the most crucial moments

[@sethyoder7996]

And to be fair, even on supercomputers LoL just doesn't keep a good frame rate in team fights. Sometimes the spaghetti gets a bit overcooked and amazing hardware doesn't help 😢

[@KitnaMW]

@@sethyoder7996 it's because the game still runs on only one cpu core. no matter how good your cpu is, one teamfight with a lot of effects present can load it to max and cause fps drop.

[@MEGASTRIX]

This feels like a driver issue imo. Lol could easily get 3 digits on some integrated graphics.

[@OswinGK]

I wonder if the PC would be able to run the game normally but something on the PC is hogging all the resources. Maybe some sort of overlay or local recording, but it still shouldn't be that bad.

[@tanjimahmed5694]

I really want everyone to get a tech pause for the fps drops fk riot

[@spartan_x1177]

I run valorant on 1080p with a 4060 and i7-13700F at around 400 in game and 800 idle on the practice range 💀

[@joshuawilson2386]

what is funny is that they had pcs running the game at 400 fps at the tournament for fans to play on

[@akitski021]

The thing about this tournament we didnt really have alot of production failed in and not alot of long pause for tech pause which is this looks like successful tournament i remember that awful start of both vct america and vct pacific with alot of tech pause

[@laugh6581]

😂a Jose Mourinho reference

[@akshat2k]

Lol the tournament pc giving 2 digit fps My pc gives 3 digit fps every time This is ridiculous

[@Jawn1337]

How can a tournament pc have below 3dig. On my home pc i get 800+ easy and i do not play like 1280x960 all low like the pros

[@-r0mus5]

At least a progress bcs back in Masters Tokyo they had to play on 144 hz

[@pauloazuela8488]

Still better if it can maintain 144fps all the time vs a 240hz that drops two digits when smokes and utils are around

[@hishamaru]

so you cant bring your own monitor? damm

[@-r0mus5]

@@hishamaru How do you imagine brining your own monitor from different continent just to play on it. All setups in stage should be equally

[@hishamaru]

lets say i prefer 1440p but most players have 1080p obviously its already disadvantage for me because im forced to play on 24 inch 1080p@@-r0mus5

[@adrian5338]

my lowest fps for my 1660s its 90, im okay with it because im not playing regularly and just playing for fun with friends. but in large scale tournament is crazy.

[@sethyoder7996]

Valorant doesn't get limited by the GPU. I have the same card as you and can get a stable 180, Val at high fps is mostly CPU clock speed.

[@asr1el942]

you just get a trash cpu then.

[@harumakival]

TenZ is talking about going through smokes, and even then its probably not double digits like he says for everyone wondering. They use an RTX 3070 with a Ryzen 5800x for LAN, which is more than capable of running over double digit FPS

[@pichuu7036]

I have 3060 and I get an average of 290-300 fps on max settings. It'd be funny if Tenz' monitor isnt just hooked up to the GPU. 💀

[@enoano]

but still the fact that he said double digit it probably was, prx mindfreak in his stream also confirmed that the pcs was so bad

[@awesome6078]

@@pichuu7036 exactly I got a 3060 12gb with a Ryzen 5 5600 and I get 300+ fps uncapped in games what did they do to bros pc at VCT 😭

[@j.w.213]

@@awesome6078 this is complete bullshit you guys are capping hard

[@awesome6078]

@@j.w.213 I’m literally not tho

[@hackdog1258]

I have pc which plays 50fps-115fps. When enemy or our team got astra, client for tells it's 50 but it feels like 20fps

[@JiicoZ]

Imagine they had the whole team on 1 pc each

[@Snow-el7yp]

the more I hear the better I love CS tournament lmao

[@leoneildy2224]

valorant runs on potatoes still cant reach 200fps. amazing

[@uresfffff222]

shit optimization

[@rf7182]

PRX: Noted, 5 controllers!!!

[@dragonlordkyle5344]

me over here locked to 60 fps on everything on low 😶

[@sentinel8910]

double digit fps is fucking crazy wtf. i thought he was gonna say "oh it dropped below 144" or smtg but double digits is nuts

[@nickszns]

Dropping below 144 is still crazy. They have top of the line pcs. I have a 3080 and 5900x and I never drop below 200 even when recording

[@SlowHardware]

Bro my 2016 Era cpu be get 350fps+ what are they using

[@aubrynobicop6924]

That is crazy even older computer parts can get well over 200fps in valorant like a 2060 and 3700x would that and last gen parts get 400fps and current gen parts get like 600fps it is sad that those pcs ran that bad

[@MadeForD]

wait im curious now. what are the actual components of those PCs lmfao. i wanna dissect and roast it even more

[@user-ll3kj4mz7e]

I went to masters Madrid and those pcs are actually good they have rtx 40 series (i dont know wich one ) and last gen intel processors idk why the FPS drops

[@randhyLeksu7288]

basically he said "it was ridiculous"

[@ryuined]

at least everyone had the same pc so when u died to it you can remind yourself the enemy probably has too

[@AbdirahmanAhmed-dv6sr]

Now he fells my pain😂😂

[@MilkysRevenge]

You aren't playing for money though....

[@Gyt442]

That and also valorant is too flashy for a fast paced fps tactical shooter esports game. It’s chaotic and it’s almost you don’t have the time to think and calm down. You’d think they’ll prioritize performance, but I think it’s mostly visual. From the abilities to skins and the effects and ambience. There’s a lot going on the screen performance and visual wise.

[@v1n88]

Thats why I wonder why Master Lockin FNC Has Plant Glitch to Boaster

[@xa-27-animesh3]

How do you even check the fps😂 i dont know

[@untitledgoose3708]

i thought he meant one controller per team like they would be a controller player the pcs were so bad 💀

[@tmips1]

so they are running like 4 year old mid / low end computers at vct?

[@alepouna]

indie game dev company cant really afford that, now imagine if there was a replay system to see the bad fps action in real time..

[@Banda_07]

If they really had 2 digit fps then they are playing on 60hz??

[@ExPotato6000]

me and my stable 60fps 💀🙏

[@clickbait9090]

they choose to use sponsored low budget monitors instead of high quality monitors for the players. billion dollar company btw

[@vexule]

They use sht hyperx monitor for kids man , they must starting use zowie bro , most of them using zowie for regional event like apac or americas , stop using money for animation riottt cares ur player too lmaoo😂

[@aldiera2439]

2 digit?, bro that tour pc has low specs than my laptop, my laptop gets 200 fps

[@singlerlim5086]

bro what is this? just get a ryzen 7 and it is really easy 300-400 fps especially if you get x3d variants

[@user-iy6sw3yv4c]

Guys is there any difference between 240hz and 360hz in valorant? And what’s the difference?

[@eska4935]

240hz and 360hz will always have a difference regardless of the game

[@adesty6227]

cannot blame the small indie company that is riot for buying these pcs they are actualy as good as the company itself

[@lemandreza9325]

And here i am with 80fps at most

[@saliva1305]

maybe its cuz all the background stuff like recording and overlays running at the same time? but still ridiculous

[@cornhead6873]

Considering there is GPU CPU combos that get over 1.5k FPS riot should be able to at least get 500 that drop to 200-300ish frames

[@exposed1972]

Now they gonna find whos job was it to buy those PCs and where did the money go

[@gabol6495]

"i jump out of a smoke and see 2 more and have double diggit fps" me listening to it knowing that my pc will only get triple digits in firing range ( not even consistent) TwT

[@waduheklite3800]

Those who wondering why fps dropping...... They have running valorant, screen recording, and screen mirrored to another screen and seperate voice Comms app,.... This all sucks and kills cpu and gpu....and pc runs in user mode like IT company so nothing can be installed...... Imagine running all this apps in restricted mode like IT company pc

[@pauloazuela8488]

Then they really needed a high core count cpu if it's struggling. More than 8 is better for that. Game isn't gpu intensive anyway

[@waduheklite3800]

@@pauloazuela8488 agreed there are some people chat saying my potapo pc running at 100fps triple digit 😬😬😬

[@ominously2574]

My pc doesnt even load val

[@earthwormsally2075]

Wtf were they using? An i3 or a laptop? Double digits fps on an official competition is crazy.

[@sai_Indurthi]

fr even my pc doesnt get double digit fps

[@earthwormsally2075]

@@sai_Indurthi even my shitty ass laptop at least hits 3 digits

[@Osteadyz]

all riot has to do is have 5800x3d installed on all tournament pcs and the problem will be solved literally. For a multi million dollar company i don’t see the issue in getting 10 300$ cpu’s

[@izkmj]

double digit fps on valorant is crazy

[@GladeVAL]

whats crazy is that riot can afford better pc's. even a ryzen 5 7600x and a 4070 would get well over 400 fps on valorant they could probably afford at least that for prac pc's but use something like this on stage: Ryzen 7 7800x3D and a 4070

[@novicemoon]

and they dont even have to buy them alot of companies would give these components on loan for the tournament

[@nyan4x]

a 3060ti prob still won't bottleneck the cpu

[@x0Fang0x]

4070 is unncessary for valorant.

[@GladeVAL]

@@x0Fang0x yeah for val a 4070 is overkill i agree but theyre not crazy expensive either. not for a company like riot anyways. its just i doubt theyd spring the money to have anything more expensive in the PC's for it. Even going the route of a Ryzen 7 5800X3D and a 3070/3060ti would be enough to not hit double digit fps but it seems they arent interested in giving the pro players consistent pc performance.

[@gummo5092]

@@x0Fang0x what cpu/gpu/ram combo should i get for my game to not drop under 360 hz ?

[@dirwolve_BLAZE_official1554]

My mid range laptop gets around 250-290 fps on i5 11th gen(i5 11400h) what is wrong with riot pcs then lol😂

[@vexule]

Mindfreak got questioned too by his viewers , his thinks same , the pc was not good for international event , and riot kinda downfall these days sending them straight home not like last year .

[@cosmos1216]

Why they can't personally low their settings? I mean graphic settings to low?

[@user-ec7to8py1g]

I mean they probably do. Alot of pros use the lowest settings. That's just how bad the pcs were 😅

[@AhmedAli-bw9bc]

billion dollar company can't provide high end pcs for a tournament

[@johnharolddelarosa3128]

not me playing with 2 digits fps O__O

[@jayplash24]

Double digit fps is actually RLLY BAD, like my old laptop I used to use, no gpu, can run valorant at 120fps during peaceful moments and like 90 fps in chaotic moments. And if pcs used in competitive can’t hit 100fps in chaotic moments, there’s something seriously wrong

[@Diego-of3ft]

Bro was playing elite Valorant on 60 fps max😭😭😭what's y'all excuse 🤣

[@ShiroganeKaiser]

Holy shit. Isn't riot supposed to be funding those tho? The heck??

[@CastielBelltree]

240?????

[@ok-cn6yr]

that's crazy anyways im gonna go back to playing valorant on 40fps

[@mrsniper6127]

Me playing with a 1060 gpu and a 60hz screen laptop 🥲

[@oreoeatsoreos9412]

It’s crazy my r5 2600 + 1660 super got 180 frames consistently. Even my laptop (intel uhd) gets stable 60 fps lol. Valorant isn’t hard to run.

[@xa-27-animesh3]

Still better than mine 😂

[@TheCookieCook]

Where is the skin money going bro 😭

[@marvindevogel1878]

at least they didnt get aim hacks injected into their systems smile

[@69SUGOI]

2 digit fps is my whole life...

[@taxman123]

Except this is valorant , that can run triple digit fps on a 400 dollar pc and this is hosted by a billion dollar company

[@bobbytaraantino]

Using 3060 on a tier 1 tournament is crazy

[@yozzu5101]

Tenz become jose mourinho 0:05 🤣🤣

[@FukoHasStarfish]

you need like a 12th gen i3 or better and a 3060 to play with 400+ fps man how fucking hard is it to provide 10 decent PCs

[@user-ge6ir2zb8o]

bro i have a 1650 super and i dont lag at all

[@paoa.5554]

That's why sea team are good on lans. We eat fps drops for breakfast lunch and dinner.

[@Heitorr]

They shouldve got 14700kf 7200 34484892 1.45v 4070 super stleast and for prac pcs 14600kf 6400 32383882 1.35v 4060 ti 8gb

[@N4feYT]

even a 2060 can run val over 100 fps what are they using 1060's?

[@taxman123]

I had a dog shit pc and still got like 90 fps consistent for like 150 bucks

[@---li1oo]

Even a gamin laptop can get above 100 easily

[@ipizza9941]

I get over 100 on my 8 years old PC with APU...

[@skaners8]

How tf is bro using this mic?