Baohong Watercolour Paper review: Artist & Student Grade

The student grade is made with 100% cotton too.
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[@sixmercer2504]

Wow. I just love the way you use color. I mean it seems so rare to see people making urban sketches so vibrant. And your lack of fear, you just go in with it and it comes out the way it comes out and you don't seem concerned with color blending being what you might nit have anticipated. I love your style and you give me inspiration for urban sketching like this. I know your preference for watercolor is Sennelier so I suspect that's the kind you were using? It's not paint that I can afford but I really do lobe the way your paintings turn out. The way you use color for shadows and not greys or browns. I have moved away from urban sketching simply because they call for earth tones that I don't find appealing. So the whole reason I wanted to watch this was because your thumbnail was so bold and vibrant. Thank you so much for sharing your art with us. It truly is beautiful.

[@teohyc]

Colour palette is very personal. My style is very stylized so colours are more vibrant. There are artists who use more neutrals, or earth tones. You can use any colours you like as long as it works for you

[@jaysermac]

100% recommend this brand for those who want to start taking watercolor more seriously. You won't break the bank and improve a lot at the same time.

[@JayNathanWatercolor]

I'm a huge fan of Baohong and use the Academy as my go to paper. It's such great value here in Asia that I just can't imagine using anything else. Thanks for the great review Teoh. Merry Christmas 🌲🙏🌲

[@susanlow7885]

I have switched from Arches to Baohong Artist grade and I love Baohong. It performs just as well as Arches, lifts beautifully (better than Arches) and most importantly, it’s so much cheaper too! I use the back of the Baohong CP when doing line and wash or if I want a smoother surface but with less grain. Next on my shopping list is the HP paper, once I’ve depleted my Arches HP. Baohong all the way!👍

[@butterscotchcandy8489]

Before I buy anything, I always come to this channel to see what your opinion is - never steered me wrong yet, and I based all my watercolor purchases off these videos! Top tier content, thank you so much.

[@nataliedubious5241]

Baohong is my go-to paper! There's a "masters choice" range here in Australia and the value for money and performance is fabulous. Bonus of not feeling precious about 'wasting' paper since it's so much more affordable than other brands

[@grannieannie1371]

Absolutey I love their hot press for botanical studies. Baohong has made watercolour on decent paper affordable. Love it.

[@wellyano6964]

Where do you get it in Australia? I've been getting the Leyton paper on ebay. I think it's similar but want to try the bauhong. Is the 'masters choice' the professional grade?

[@grannieannie1371]

@@wellyano6964 sorry I only just noticed this question. I get mine from Senior's art supplies. It's called master's choice here. You can order online and you can order 1/4 sheets and 1/2 sheets and full sheets individually as well as the blocks. They're pretty cheap and it's lovely.

[@evelynevelyn107]

I live in WA and have bought Baohong Academy from both AliExpress and Amazon. Recently (June 2022), Amazon has been cheaper than AliExpress for whatever reason, so do some comparisons before purchasing.

[@deepthikambhampati828]

your work looks absolutely gorgeous on this paper! so vibrant, the colors, textures, granulation!

[@anirsarun]

Thank you for your great review. I just tried baohong academy cold pressed not so long ago and it's so good. My favourite is still baohong academy rough surface. More good thing from baohong paper is, it doesn't lost the sizing easily. And it's so comfortable to soften the edges without obvious cauliflower effect. It really helps any beginner (like me) to build the confidence.

[@jngarrettart]

Great to see you review this. I love Baohong paper. I ordered their small paper sampler, and the sheets all felt great to work on. My personal favorite is the artist grade regular cold press, but as a teacher, I love that they have a less expensive student grade paper too that is still such good quality, which makes good supplies more accessible for students. To me, the artist grade is one of the best feeling papers I have ever painted on (right along with Etchr’s grey cover “perfect sketchbook”), and I can get so many varying textures out of it. The paint goes down on it in such a rich, velvety way. I definitely like Arches a lot, but having used both a fair bit now, I like the feel of Baohong even just a little bit more. 🤭

[@didi1406]

I finally subscribed today. so many of the things I researched kept going to your page and you do excellent reputable reviews that I just had to subscribe. thank you for all the work you put into your videos! they have been a great resource for me in watercoloring beginnings.

[@lindathaxton1994]

I’ve been using both student & artists grade bahong paper blocks for about a year - they works very well for me. Thank you for sharing

[@jjordansartorio2912]

im glad we have vendors of this in the philippines. after using it i get frustrated with the cheaper options or even brands like strathmore as the painting experience isnt as smooth as on the baohong. I love this paper

[@ab_rose]

hey there, im from the ph too! i would love to know where do you get these papers from :))

[@jjordansartorio2912]

@@ab_rose shoppe have a bunch of seller. Check on semiart vendor, in lazada i buy them from gift box

[@olart9813]

Strathmore? Archival 500series or 300/400 series you use?

[@jjordansartorio2912]

@@olart9813 ive tried the 400 series didnt like it. The 500 series isnt as easy to find sadly. For the 10 sheet of the 500 series i can get 20 sheets of baohong student grade 7x10 inches

[@olart9813]

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[@ab_rose]

Been interested in this paper for quite a while! I've been looking for more in-depth and recent reviews of this. Glad to know of your review on this paper! Will be buying this soon then.

[@annelloydholden2567]

I really enjoy working with both artist grade and Academy. I LOVE the artist grade "rough" paper. Very nice! Glad you did this review. Very helpful!

[@thelaribunny]

I was curious about this paper. Definitely going to try now you showed all in detail. Thanks for your great work, as always!

[@lightwavz]

Thanks for that review, Teoh! I am a Hot Press fan myself, so I will be trying out the student grade. I will be interested in seeing you use the Hot Press in your videos. That small painting on the student grade was GORGEOUS!

[@audreytan7566]

Wow… thank you Teoh, will definitely try these papers out… love you confident strokes…

[@jadedenthusiasms]

This is the most comprehensive review of these 2 papers and it was awesome!!! Loved how you showed it up close to see the texture and especially to show them against other brands too! I've not been able to afford 100% cotton but have been dying to. And this brand is one I've been looking at for a long time and have on my Amazon wishlist, not sure if anyone knows if it can be bought for an even better price somewhere else, I'd love to know if so. But I wasn't sure about the artist vs student and you answered all those. Thank you so much! Also, because of your gorgeous art I added the Duke d2 fude nib pen to my wishlist and my husband just bought it for me. I'm so excited to try it. I am nothing compared to you and I know there will be a learning curve with it.....but I'm just SO excited!! Thank you for all your advice and helping me with all my questions on your different videos. I truly appreciate it. I think the student grade is better texture wise for me as well when drawing flowers and things then adding watercolor. May try the hot press as well after I save up. Thanks so much!!!

[@jadedenthusiasms]

@@SketchesnScrubs thank you so much! I'm in the u.s. , Tennessee :/ I've looked at their stuff online and wish I could get things from them bit the shipping to me ends up negating thrower prices....but I love so many things I've seen from them though!! I'll have to look at Ali express, not sure i got the name right, but it's a legit thing though right? Because I can wait for better paper if its at a better price because, like everyone I think, we've had next to no work through all this and I have some significant health issues that getting more and more expensive with new surgeries coming up soon...teaching myself art is what helps me cope and keep in a positive and inspiring state of mind as much as possible. Which I why I'm SO thankful for everyone on here that shows their beautiful art and different things they love, because more and more I have a day or even hours every now and then when I'm physically able to draw or paint as much as I need it, so its hard, BUT, having this place to see these amazing artists and learn new things from them and all of you that help by sharing awesome info in the comments helps me stay excited and inspired for when I have a good day and can have a few supplies to have so much fun with while I can ;) So thank you so much for the help and suggestions, I truly truly appreciate it!!!! :) I hope you and your family are doing well and enjoy the rest of your weekend!!!! Thanks again, Jade :) Please excuse the typos, my hands aren't working well so things can get a bit crazy but I don't have the energy to go ove it again😬😊

[@AB-xu8ef]

@@jadedenthusiasms also, I am in the US. Stuff can get to you in a week or two months. Just depends. There are a lot of nice painting supplies on there if you do some research. Good luck!

[@jadedenthusiasms]

@@SketchesnScrubs thanks so much!!! I looked into it a bit and there's SO much on there its hard to know what to look at first :) so it will definitely be a place i go when buying some is an option! Thanks so much!! I agree, Teohs channel is amazing!!! I've loved ink and watercolor since I began teaching myself, but he has such a different and beautiful style...love it!! I'll have to go check out your channel as well!!!! Very cool! So brave of you! My husband and son got me this name to start a chronic pain/health issues and how art saves me type blog and to video the art i make for this channel...and I'm just too nervous and sure people will hate it all because I try everything I get my hands on...friends or family who give me little paints or pens and just color makes me happy ... but since I can't practice as much I'll never be any good. My family is sweet about it, but I think differently of it...I'm working on it as I am apparently viciously hard on myself in all ways told :/ maybe it could be a "what not to do" one!! Aahahahaha just kidding. Maybe one day I'll be brave enough of feel well enough...but more surgeries coming up so just trying to not focus on the $600 monthly bill just to have insurance because even one step down took away all the specialty doctors that aren't optional for me...plus of course a couple thousand we pay out of pocket till that's done, so, yea, its stressful. My husband tries so hard and I have a lot of guilt over it though he reminds me of the hard on myself thing again :/ but its a lot when there's not much money coming in. So I agree, its hard to deal with both and sadly so many people all over do :/ but...sorry...that was depressing...so sorry! But yes, I'm excited for any suggestions and I can't wait to look for your channel! I truly thank all of you who do SO much work to record, make art, edit😖 and upload so many beautiful things for us to enjoy and be inspired by!! So thankful for it!!!! Hope you and your family are happy and healthy and doing fun stuff this weekend :) Thanks again!!!

[@jadedenthusiasms]

@@SketchesnScrubs you're so sweet🥺(good tears, not bad) yea, I'm working on the self hate and self doubt...always been my life due to some bad stuff...but I would love to help someone know they're not alone and how much being creative in all sorts of ways, can save your brain and help you focus on positive things. So, I'm trying :) and I appreciate, more then you'll ever know, your encouraging words🥺truly!! Thank you🥰 Have a wonderful weekend!!!!🍻🤘🌼🍾🥂

[@wendychampness1901]

I love your reviews! I hope you will continue to do more🙏

[@edzejandehaan9265]

Interesting that their student grade is also 100% cotton, always considered that per definition artist grade. Seems to be only a texture difference. Probably very difficult to find around here though.

[@krabfingers8473]

The academy cold press is spectacular! I’ve seen washes go on so smooth and there’s so little buckling. The paper actually absorbs the paint! I bought them in 22 x 30 sheets and it’s very cost effective.

[@lucev7497]

Was waiting for a review of de Baohong paper for a while now, thank you, much appreciated

[@charliepea]

Looking forward to this. Been using Canson and Fabriano aquarelles for a while and they are all bad. For a 100% cotton paper for cheap price, it's a big steal.

[@lindathaxton1994]

Love your looseness, colors & compos ition

[@Rileygirl746]

Wonderful review. I am going to forward this to all my artist classmates.

[@grannieannie1371]

In Australia we don't have either the artist or the student but an Australian company imports something called Baohong Masters choice. I thing it's artist grade buy repackaged. I the mostly use the hot press but sometimes the cold press. Both are excellent, I love the hot press. The blocks are about one third of the price of arches. If I didn't have access to Baohong paper I know I couldn't afford to paint as much. Maybe not at all.

[@annettefournier9655]

Thanks Teoh. I love this paper as a more affordable option that performs well and takes a lot of abuse no problems.

[@annelouise4639]

Thank you for this review! I've been wondering about Baohong paper for a while as it's such a reasonable price compared to other artist grade papers available here in Australia. Your artwork on the student grade paper is stunning! 😊

[@grannieannie1371]

Just buy it, you won't regret it. I get mine from Seniors Art Supplies.

[@annelouise4639]

@@grannieannie1371 Thank you. I'll have a look there very soon. 😊

[@nikahadasart3207]

your video is very interesting, useful and helpful too.

[@daredreamdo]

Teoh, thank you for this video.

[@mendyhand3895]

Pretty sure they make “The Perfect Sketchbook” out of Baohong. Not sure if it’s student or Artist. ( limited edition is Fabriano I think). Looks like the Student paper is a bit more White. I’m going to buy the student grade. Thank you for zooming in! Very helpfully! Love your art! 👍🙏🏻🖌

[@sweetflakes]

I wish Baohong was available in extra white! Try Arto 100% cotton watercolour paper next!

[@ushaanand4940]

Happy New Year !

[@jaquelinedeponce5251]

Thank you Teoh! I use Arches and Fabriano myself. I need a good yet inexpensive 100% rag paper for my 11 year old granddaughter, who is showing increased interest in art. I realize from painting decades in watercolor that her ability to be successful will rely on on a good quality paper.

[@teohyc]

Baohong is good. Or look for Khadi Papers (India) sketchbooks. Or get large watercolour sheets and cut them to smaller size yourself.

[@jaquelinedeponce5251]

@@teohyc Thank youTeoh! Upon viewing your review and another I did order the Baohong paper. I just received 2 blocks of Baohong academy paper for my granddaughter plus small postcard sample sheets for me to try out!

[@LimaRam]

This paper is a great discovery. I love the hot press version.

[@jmbosquesillo7203]

I’ve noticed the Hot press is like general Cold press and the Cold press is semi-Rough. I prefer hot press for sketchbooks since I’m just adding color to quick Sketches and not pouring water all over the pages. It’s called a Sketchbook for a reason. In house, I prefer Cold press blocks for, well, watercolor, where I’ll be doing washes and using granulating / super granulating paint. The Baohong texture is just right. I highly recommend the paper too & there isn’t noticeable difference between Student & Artist. Great video!

[@alfarinaherdianti]

Where I live, a lot of people Baohong! Some like academy more than artist but I love both depends on the art work... The only downside is.. it tends to appear a little yellowish compared to some other cotton watercolor paper brand... I hesitated for quite sometime But after using it for a while, I don't think it changes my paint colors.. So I keep using them

[@joshuahatfield797]

Thanks for this review! I now feel confident in using this paper. Have you used it more? How was your experience after finishing the pads?

[@AlexYorim]

I seem to have a seesawing interest with Baohong watercolor paper. It's surprisingly cheap even for a 100% cotton paper, but it's been said that it has no sizing (presumably why it was cheap), meaning it can be quite unpredictable with absorbing water and pigment. It's why I was reluctant to that at first. That and I already have enough watercolor paper. (Which I haven't painted most of them yet, and could potentially lose their sizing sooner or later. 😅) Last year, I have dabbled on poster paint and gouache, and earlier this year, I got a set of the much hyped Miya Himi jelly gouache. I had painted with these paints even on cardstock and regular print paper, so maybe sizing is less of an issue for me. Vibrancy on the other hand... I don't know if sizing is an issue for gouache for others there, but with your review of the Baohong paper, it has regained my interest in getting it, and recommending it, provided I use up my other papers. Thanks for the review, Mr. Teoh, and have a Merry Christmas!🎄

[@grannieannie1371]

The professional grade definitely has sizing. It is lovely to paint on,

[@AlexYorim]

@@grannieannie1371 Convincing 👌🏽

[@arquitemaschile]

wondeful video thank you.

[@colorcrazy2944]

It looks really good for those who can find it.

[@rebeccapage4411]

Thank you!

[@catherinele8417]

Hi !! Thank you for your review !! I am curious to know what do you think about Paul rubens 100 % coton sketchbook ?

[@jennw6809]

Seems like great paper but not so cheap in the USA! Wonderful review though!

[@gwensimmons_gigi1629]

Hi Teoh! I am looking at your review thinking I must have purchased my Academy B., cold pressed 100% 5x7 block about 3weeks ago from a different company or received a bad batch of ?? cotton, unsized paper. My experience was quite the opposite as the paper dried quickly, which made color blending very difficult. Harsh water lines developed and smoothing them by resetting was impossible. Even when I soaked the paper block with water it buckled and leaked onto the page below, yet there was not change in blending my paints, as the paints still did not moving. My QoR paints which normally disperse extremely well on other WC paper barely dispersed. The company has to have changed paper suppliers as my 5x7 block is a dud!! It gets 1* from me as 0 is not an option. May try it with gouache as it requires less water?!?!…🤷🏽‍♀️🤦🏾‍♀️🤷🏽‍♀️😔

[@eurekawanders]

Ohhhh the sketchbook that I did a tour of is student grade. 🤭 I thought they only had one grade of paper.

[@shybunnyj]

Can you compare hot pressed acedemy and artist grade too?

[@enterthesketch]

Is the student grade smoother than Strathmore's 400 series watercolor 300gsm?

[@neelofurk576]

Can someone please tell me if Baohong Paper is sized using gelatin or starch?

[@hansendesigns]

Thx for vid

[@nadeaner.cowley513]

Ive been wanting to try these but i already have to much paper and Im afraid of my other paper going bad. If you know how to fix sizing in paper that has gone bad could you make a video about it? I mean im sure you get lots of requests so only if its something you have time for and are interested in of course. Great video. Thanks for sharing:)

[@teohyc]

It's best not to keep watercolour paper for too long since it can absorb moisture from the air and affect the sizing. Fixing the sizing later on with sizing liquid or sizing paste will not bring back the original performance of the paper. I have a video on that. kzbin.info/www/bejne/nn2ZeY2sfatko7s

[@bluedogbluey6742]

Hi Teoh, I don't know if you know this, but do you know if there is a difference between Boahong artist grade watercolour paper and Boahong Master's choice watercolour paper or are they one of the same with a different cover? The Master's choice watercolour paper cover has Watercolour artist's such as Joseph Zbukvic, Alvaro Castagnet and others on it. Sorry to put you on the spot. Thank you.

[@teohyc]

I’m not sure. Generally speaking there are only student and artist, so just two. My guess is Master is also Artist grade.

[@bluedogbluey6742]

@@teohyc no worries. Thank you Teoh.

[@1mulekicker]

What grade are the 14.6" x 394" rolls of Baohong watercolor 100% cotton? This video leads me to believe it is Academy grade.

[@drawingarchitecture]

I have only trusted Arches in terms of quality and reliability even after years of storage. The question is the foreshortening coating of the surface of the Baohong watercolor paper would last. Like I don’t store much Fabriano watercolor paper because the foreshortening coating oxidizes around two years later.

[@teohyc]

So what happens when the paper oxidizes?

[@drawingarchitecture]

@@teohyc Watercolor pigment is just absorbed on the cotton material, resulting in dull colors or behavior of pigments to be just bad. I should say the "sizing" coat is oxidizes.

[@suzalasuzala1135]

I store Arches, Saunders, Fabrizio and Baohong in a basement and have never had a problem. I store them in flat files with bags of desiccant. I think keeping them dry is the key to preventing the sizing from changing ( I also run a dehumidifier in the warm months. Thanks for the student grade v artist grade baohong paper review! I have been using the student grade and wondered what the difference was. I will quierie no further. I too have been quite happy with the student grade. Meey Christmas to Ms. Tiffany!! A happy new year to you and your family!

[@drawingarchitecture]

@@suzalasuzala1135 Since I live in a tropical country like the Philippines, Fabriano and Saunders sizing will fail within 2 years. Somehow Arches lasts longer - even the last of my 185G/SQM Arches roll I made into a sketchbook is perfectly fine. So I’m curious if the Bauhong has good sizing coat so I can recommend to my students to use - only time will tell. I just bought an entire 44” 300G/SQM Arches roll knowing I can still use them years to come for big paintings.

[@suzalasuzala1135]

@@drawingarchitecture hi, I too teach, but...art! it's funny because I keep hearing that Arches sizing for a while was failing miserably. People were getting uneven paint absorption, or none at all with resist like splotches. Go figure. In the warmer months in NY in my basement it can often run 93 degrees with 90% humidity for days. I can't imagine how you keep mold off your paints or papers where you live! My sympathies to your situation! ( but, happy holidays to you)

[@faiths3632]

I used BOHONG ARTIST paper almost a year ago.. I was soooo impressed how good this paper it became my no 1 watercolor paper Fabriyano was ok and Arches was disappointing and expensive... I love baohong cold pressed 👍👍👍

[@lifeismusicparnadonkers]

I buy it online from alliexpress i pay for 4 diffrent sizes watercolour blocks 77,68 euro,s. I am using fine grain. I paint whit acrylic paint on them. I love the fine grain paper. I find its better for painting whit acrylic paint. I love you,re drawing🖐🏾😃

[@chiewlay]

I used the student grade paper to paint some landscape. As a beginner I sometimes end up doing the wet on wet 4-5 times. And what happens is that the paper starts coming off. I wonder if it’s the same on artist grade.

[@teohyc]

Are you using Baohong student paper too?

[@chiewlay]

@@teohyc yea i am :)

[@Bobaboba687]

Wht type of pen u r using for sketches I mean the brand of the black pen

[@teohyc]

Pelikan m200

[@Art-What..]

Hi.. Teoh,was thinking about getting some of this paper,do you think I could fold it and make little travel journal booklets?

[@teohyc]

You can. But the paper is thick so the folded pages will spread out. Usually for sketchbooks and booklets, 200gsm instead of 300gsm watercolour paper is used.

[@Art-What..]

@@teohyc yes thanks,love your channel 😎

[@jmbosquesillo7203]

They sell sketchbooks, both hot and cold press. 24 sheets, iirc.

[@NoviGoesPainting-tb7yu]

I make a DIY sketchbook from artist baohong 300 gsm paper. I use only one per signature, instead of 2 or 3 sheets per signature, because it is thick already, and then use coptic stitch method and then perfect bind it for stronger structure.

[@MyRedLeaf]

11:10... Goodness, those colours! 🤩

[@qso3566]

Hi Teoh, thank you for all your informative videos! I've followed you for some time and have learned much from you. I'm sorry to hijack this thread of comments :) but wonder if you might advise me on something: I am not an expert sketcher nor a novice, somewhere in between, and I want to purchase a simple, portable drawing tablet with full screen and good pen, USB charged, and does not require a glove (I want to be able to rest my hand if need be) and preferably priced at $200 or below (if that's possible). I have watched your tablet review videos and read many reviews on Parka Blogs, but I am rather confused about what tablet you would recommend per my specifications above. If you have a moment, I would very much appreciate your recommendation. THANK YOU! :)

[@teohyc]

The only one that’s near the price range is the Samsung Tab A8 with S Pen but that’s from 2019. Alternative would be those pen displays that need to connect to computers. For US$200 you can get around 12-13 inches. www.parkablogs.com/content/artist-review-samsung-tab-80-s-pen-2019

[@qso3566]

@@teohyc Thanks so much for replying and for the recommendation. Regards to you and yours, Teoh!

[@rebeccalyons1327]

Are they both archival?

[@teohyc]

Yes

[@ker5776]

Good. To know! Is there a way you could do a tutorial on how to approach an urban sketch from a photo? I watch all of your videos but still struggling on where to begin with a photo and proper angles.

[@teohyc]

Using a photo means the composition is already fixed by the photographer so it's important to choose the right photo. One that shows off the physical form (e.g. silhouette, light shadow) of the subject. Generally speaking, just draw the biggest shape or longest line first. I've many tutorials from the tutorial playlist kzbin.info/aero/PLucoL_7WoAgDD3iul6Me6RIruU_UyhKDO

[@brainfornothing]

Curious : I'm from Spain and this is the MORE EXPENSIVE watercolor paper, is no way I'm gonna get it, when any other, including from the best brands, is infinitelly more convenient, reliable, tested, trusty, better quality, I can complain and return it, ... And cheaper ! I suppose it depends on where we live. I made time ago a very simple Excel spreadsheet with price per square meter, to compare offers. Merry Christmas to all of you !

[@UJB123]

That’s because of EU VAT , tariff and such. It’s to keep business within EU markets. Bare in mind, cotton doesn’t grow in Europe … just saying.

[@brainfornothing]

​@@UJB123 ​Well, we have cotton producers in my own province, but the main producer in Europe is Greece. On the other hand, even 100% watercolor papers from USA and other parts of the World outside Europe were cheaper, but I didn't check prices for a while now, so, I can't talk too much about today's market, that was a year ago. Happy painting and, Cheers !

[@bigboyanimation3799]

I like the way you colored the leaves, but i dont the granulation in watercolor like the color of the sky

[@davepane7306]

I would have saved a lot of time and frustration if all of the artist-KZbinrs with "how to paint" videos would have just been up front and said, "don't mind watching the rest of this video unless you FIRST spend $400 on a couple new sable brushes, because your paintings will never look this good with any other brushes".

[@krabfingers8473]

I mean in my opinion, I followed those videos and did decently with my cheaper materials. I have affordable Royal & Langnickel brushes, they worked great. (Maybe spent $11?) My paint was really bad quality but I didn't know that as a beginner haha. It all comes down to good WC paper, and as long as your brushes don't shed extremely, the cheaper options can be good.

[@davepane7306]

@@krabfingers8473 I hear you, I guess my frustration is that a lot of KZbin painters use high-end paper plus real sable brushes, but don't bother to say that you can't closely mimic the painting with other materials. I had to learn it the hard way. Even the same artist can do two paintings side by side, one with student grade one with artists grade and you'll see a clear difference, but again they NEVER mention this in their tutorial videos.

[@krabfingers8473]

@@davepane7306 Yeah I agree with you on that! I didn’t know the materials could’ve changed the painting outcome drastically. I mean now I know, sadly can’t afford most of the expensive supplies still.

[@NoviGoesPainting-tb7yu]

​@@davepane7306 my art tutor always say, you controll tge media, it's the hand behind it, not the tools. So he always teach with cheap materials. However he does suggest to buy artist paints because they aee directly applied as the art itself. Papers and brushes can be whatever. For me personally, I love Baohong artist and have used them for a year now. I have other papers like potentate, canson, leyton, for collections and practices but I love Baohong artist the most. I do not use archea or saunders because tooo expensive. With Baohong artist, i can get good quality cotton paper without burning my wallet.