TERRIFYING Engine Fire | American Airlines Flight 1400

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Curious Pilot

Curious Pilot

Жыл бұрын

In this Air Accident Investigation, we discuss the harrowing experience of American Airlines flight 1400, a McDonnell Douglas DC-9-82 (MD-82) that experienced an in-flight left engine fire during its departure climb from Lambert-St. Louis International Airport on 28 September 2007. As the flight crew attempted to return to the airport, they encountered yet another issue when the nose landing gear failed to extend, they also were having issues with electrics and hydraulics. The crew executed a go-around and successfully deployed the gear using the emergency procedure before conducting an emergency landing on the runway.
We examine the events leading up to this terrifying incident, the emergency procedures followed by the flight crew, and the factors that contributed to the damage sustained by the aircraft during the fire. Join us as we delve into the details of this dramatic aviation event.
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@CuriousPilot90
@CuriousPilot90 Жыл бұрын
I hope you enjoy the video! Thank you for all your kind and interesting comments so far! A couple of points - Yes it's clear I do not have a future in voice acting, apologies for the terrible accents but the voices are direct quotes from the ATC transcript and hopefully provide some insight into what the crew were thinking. In the future I may get people with the relevant accents to record those parts but at the moment I am currently doing everything with the video on my own, perhaps as the channel grows I can get a team of people. It would help with the frequency of uploads. And the acronym at the start is supposed to say NTSB (Thanks @zynera )
@mattwilliams3456
@mattwilliams3456 Жыл бұрын
Great breakdown, and as an American I did find the accents entertaining.
@Michael-lp1jy
@Michael-lp1jy Жыл бұрын
❤❤❤❤😂😂😂o
@kylben
@kylben Жыл бұрын
I'd suggest just using your own voice for the radio communications. Change the tone and cadence so we know you are reading a transcript, maybe different ways to indicate ATC vs pilots, but the attempt at voice acting really does not help.
@sylviabriggs4087
@sylviabriggs4087 Жыл бұрын
It was great
@sylviabriggs4087
@sylviabriggs4087 Жыл бұрын
@@mattwilliams3456 I thought it was rather sexy
@michaelmitchell9612
@michaelmitchell9612 Жыл бұрын
Excellent video. As a 27 year aviation maintenance mechanic with an A&P I can tell you this is what happens when people take shortcuts, ie using improper tools for the job at hand!
@mitseraffej5812
@mitseraffej5812 Жыл бұрын
Yep, like using a forklift to during engine changes which damaged the engine pylon and caused the DC10 accident out of Chicago in the 70s. Same airline.
@PhycoKrusk
@PhycoKrusk Жыл бұрын
Calls to mind American Airlines 96, when the cargo door blew out in flight. I will grant you this: It was not a good door design. However, on this particular flight, the baggage handler noted in the investigation report that the locking handle for the door was very difficult to close. "I had to put my knee on it to get it to close." As a general rule when dealing with mechanical devices like that, if you have to force it, something is not right. (I'm only talking about AA96. Turkish Airlines 981 probably still would've happened regardless; it was _not_ a good door design)
@cchris874
@cchris874 Жыл бұрын
@@PhycoKrusk PS What made the 981 disaster more inevitable is that the door was not forced closed, thus giving no indication of an abnormal situation. Almost certainly, we have the TK mechanics' tampering with the door's mechanisms and warning system a just few weeks before to thank for that.
@wayback75
@wayback75 Жыл бұрын
I am a retired airline mechanic and remember back in the day on the 727 , we would usually use a screw driver to manually open the start valve through a small hole in the engine cowl. Some cowling had a small access panel where a glove was needed to hold the lever down or some start valves had a button type as the hot bleed air coming off the duct was almost unbearable with a glove on. After you hear it light off, I would count to ten and release the lever then go back and give the Captain a thumbs up.
@kasperorganics-organiccott6881
@kasperorganics-organiccott6881 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I remember that one.
@banjojohn1489
@banjojohn1489 Жыл бұрын
The engineer who came up with the phrase "Suck-Squeeze-Bang-Blow" 😂 legend
@CuriousPilot90
@CuriousPilot90 Жыл бұрын
😂
@kasperorganics-organiccott6881
@kasperorganics-organiccott6881 Жыл бұрын
That one is easy to remember, for sure.
@brandonjerue1205
@brandonjerue1205 Жыл бұрын
Happens In your car every 2 ↕️ rotations of your crank shaft.⬇️ Intake, ⬆️ compression, ⬇️ ignition (power stroke) ⬆️ exhaust
@Eremon1
@Eremon1 Жыл бұрын
Certainly raises an eyebrow. 😅
@h8GW
@h8GW Жыл бұрын
Sound like to me that a content creator someone is also a fan of Donut Media.
@MarcPagan
@MarcPagan Жыл бұрын
Thanks for an excellent video from a former airline pilot and flight instructor. We're all human and make mistakes, and videos like this help reinforce safety as priority one.
@CuriousPilot90
@CuriousPilot90 Жыл бұрын
Appreciate that Marc, thank you.
@bikeny
@bikeny Жыл бұрын
You've gotten a sub from me for 2 reasons: 1. Good information presented clearly. 2. No music whatsoever. I can't believe how many other channel hosts use music over the narration. It is extremely annoying and distracting and useless. Unless I am watching a music video or dance video, we really don't need any music. Not for emotion. Not to set the stage. Nothing.
@solidfuel0
@solidfuel0 Жыл бұрын
Ohhh your one sub will make huge difference
@roospike
@roospike Жыл бұрын
Sub? = Suppository? 🤔 That's odd.
@TSWest
@TSWest Жыл бұрын
I couldn't agree more. No music needed or wanted. That rates a sub from me as well.
@jasonmurdoch9936
@jasonmurdoch9936 9 ай бұрын
Definitely agree with your statement about the music music in any video in the background is extremely irritating
@kasperorganics-organiccott6881
@kasperorganics-organiccott6881 Жыл бұрын
You speak clearly and explain everything well. I appreciate that there is no loud annoying background music!
@CuriousPilot90
@CuriousPilot90 Жыл бұрын
Thank you
@fernviking7909
@fernviking7909 Жыл бұрын
A tiny thing causes a huge problem! I’ve been on a flight that had to turn around after a large boom was heard. No passenger was informed of what happened, just ‘we’re having technical issues & must go back.’ I really like knowing what possibly could’ve been the problem thru channels like this. Thanks!
@PJay-wy5fx
@PJay-wy5fx Жыл бұрын
So happy YT suggested your channel. I have long binged through the entire content of the well known and excellent civil aviation accident channels, so I'm very pleased to be able to add another one!
@CuriousPilot90
@CuriousPilot90 Жыл бұрын
I'm glad KZbin is recommending me to the right people! Thanks.
@RockandRollWoman
@RockandRollWoman Жыл бұрын
P. Jay What other channels do you recommend? Mentour Pilot is my top choice.
@anneoconnor8741
@anneoconnor8741 3 ай бұрын
You might like to try Green Dot. Aviation. Very clear explanations, understated like this channel. And all with an Irish lilt.
@StarPartners
@StarPartners Жыл бұрын
Nice to find a channel of mostly successful landing & little or no fatalities…. Thanks 😊
@TC.C
@TC.C Жыл бұрын
Really like your videos. Not making big deals of the incidents and just presenting and explaining the facts with nice graphics. Much appreciated! Subscribed.
@CuriousPilot90
@CuriousPilot90 Жыл бұрын
Thanks 😊
@MGJDMNJ
@MGJDMNJ Жыл бұрын
Great content bud. I know nothing on how to fly but love flight channels. You’re doing a great job especially with so many other large creators out there. Every video I have watched has had added facts or detail in a clear and concise way. Great job
@CuriousPilot90
@CuriousPilot90 Жыл бұрын
Much appreciated, thank you.
@HEDGE1011
@HEDGE1011 Жыл бұрын
Good summary overall. I’m a longtime airline pilot with well more than 10,000 hours in the DC-9/MD-80 and appreciate you covering this. Although I gave you a thumbs up, as a matter of constructive critique, the ATC and cockpit comms are unrealistic and are pretty terrible; they really detract from the quality of the video.
@dougr8646
@dougr8646 7 ай бұрын
Bro those are transcripts lol
@nightangel8087
@nightangel8087 2 ай бұрын
I love ur narration.. there is clarity plus the dynamic use of high quality animation..
@ChabbaD90
@ChabbaD90 Жыл бұрын
Another great great video- thanks for sharing and explaining things in simple terms for those of us who don’t know.
@CuriousPilot90
@CuriousPilot90 Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@datathunderstorm
@datathunderstorm Жыл бұрын
That was literally scary! I was almost certain they weren’t going to make it back to the runway 😮
@rilmar2137
@rilmar2137 Жыл бұрын
I really can't tell which I find more tragic: incidents involving highly experienced pilots like this one, or rookies. Certainly weird they would fixate on the door (while I guess it wasn't a big issue) out of all things, though. Even more perplexing was their decision to go around in the crippled state of their aircraft. I'm obviously not a pilot, but I'd wanna get back on the ground ASAP given the amount and severity of issues!
@Pelenaiful
@Pelenaiful Жыл бұрын
well, crooked door could lead to passengers seeing them struggling, which would certainly create a big panic on aircraft, and that is the last thing any pilot would want even in a situation like that.
@vikingjohn9813
@vikingjohn9813 Жыл бұрын
The thing with the door is you don't want the passengers to see and hear everything going on, the off duty pilot lied to them at the end but only so they would not panic so that is the same as the door being closed.
@christerry1773
@christerry1773 Жыл бұрын
what i don't get is how and why it actually opened as a result of the power going out..???
@jimcronin2043
@jimcronin2043 Жыл бұрын
Very professional job on the part of the crew and the off-duty pilot.
@floriansailler8146
@floriansailler8146 Жыл бұрын
Not at all. The rule, in general and during emergencies for that matter, is 1) aviate, 2) navigate, and only then 3)!communicate. The PF deciding to chat with everybody and their grandmother instead of letting the PM carry out the emergency checklist was probably as criminal as the scandalous shortcuts taken by the maintenance personnel -and the accident report did highlight this sad truth.
@N1611n
@N1611n Жыл бұрын
Loving how you put these videos out, thank you.
@CuriousPilot90
@CuriousPilot90 Жыл бұрын
Thank you, not as often as I would like but the best I can at the moment.
@N1611n
@N1611n Жыл бұрын
@@CuriousPilot90 Job comes first but thank you for what you do. Remember, back for up further back for down.🤣👍
@josh2961
@josh2961 Жыл бұрын
Also! Really interesting that the fan jet engine produces more thrust from the large fan at the front! Like a propeller. Crazy.
@ChabbaD90
@ChabbaD90 Жыл бұрын
This really surprised me too!
@BobbyGeneric145
@BobbyGeneric145 Жыл бұрын
See my comment up top... Only at low altitudes is this true. At higher altitudes the core produces a large majority of the thrust due to air density.
@gort8203
@gort8203 Жыл бұрын
Depends on the bypass ratio and the airspeed. On these engines not so much as newer higher bypass fans.
@bobwilson758
@bobwilson758 Жыл бұрын
Exactly ! Like a big hi - Bypass turbine fan engine Pretty much Big N1 fan in the front of engine .
@spvillano
@spvillano Жыл бұрын
Surely a case of, "what else can go wrong? Nevermind, I don't want to explore those possibilities right now". Damned fine job though, excellent resource management, in a situation where resources were rapidly dwindling!
@sydyidanton5873
@sydyidanton5873 Жыл бұрын
I like your work at where you are going with this. Great editing and decent narration. Although give the ATC Comms and inflight P.A.s a miss, it doesn’t work and cheapens your production sounding more like poor comedy. Your work is better than that. One thing you could do is explain a little technical information, like how does an ILS work, functions of and how an autopilot works, various modes, major differences with Airbus automation, and how wildly different Airbus cockpits are as a complete system, dangers with side sticks vs Boeing yokes which features duplicated flight control inputs are on both controls therefore more obviously alerted to incorrect inputs being made vs Airbus clandestinely to the side out of view. Just some ideas. Your work is excellent. I’ve 'liked' and subscribed, I’m going to watch a few more now and 'like' them also. Keep up the excellent work. Looking forward to seeing more. Cheers, Anton
@juliemanarin4127
@juliemanarin4127 Жыл бұрын
Lucky they landed safely...good flight crew!
@00044331
@00044331 Жыл бұрын
The MD 80 has visual indicators for nose and main gear position. The nose gear visual pin is located on the center pedestal. The main gear use a periscope for visual indication.
@josh2961
@josh2961 Жыл бұрын
Amazing video! You are the best aviation channel on KZbin. Those air traffic voices were great, made me laugh but really good to hear what everyone was saying at the time.
@CuriousPilot90
@CuriousPilot90 Жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot!
@sludge8506
@sludge8506 Жыл бұрын
The ATC voices were a reenactment.
@josh2961
@josh2961 Жыл бұрын
@@sludge8506 correct… he did say that.
@Lucky7tattooNettahoe
@Lucky7tattooNettahoe Жыл бұрын
Loved your video! Your style of more details in the film itself is wonderful. Keep it up!
@CuriousPilot90
@CuriousPilot90 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the kind comment.
@kneal9203
@kneal9203 Жыл бұрын
I finally have time to come back and watch your videos!! So happy!
@CuriousPilot90
@CuriousPilot90 Жыл бұрын
Welcome back!
@josephconnor2310
@josephconnor2310 Жыл бұрын
Great explanation of how turbine engines work. Really appreciate your work.
@sarahmacintosh6449
@sarahmacintosh6449 Жыл бұрын
Great video, thanks!!
@Tyrannosaurus_Wrexx
@Tyrannosaurus_Wrexx Жыл бұрын
Great video. Nice to see an incident I was unfamiliar with. Those accents, though😄
@CuriousPilot90
@CuriousPilot90 Жыл бұрын
Ahaha, I tried to warn you about them with the message at the start! Glad you enjoyed it. :)
@ehilton7044
@ehilton7044 Жыл бұрын
Very well done video subscribed keep up the good work😊
@frankbumstead3838
@frankbumstead3838 Жыл бұрын
Very good format.
@bcmfin
@bcmfin Жыл бұрын
Was that Foghorn Leghorn doing the voiceover for the MD-82?
@BobbyGeneric145
@BobbyGeneric145 Жыл бұрын
Ah say ah say ah say boy.
@farsicalspeaking3356
@farsicalspeaking3356 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, considering this was an American plane and an American airport, all the voices had a British accent. Hmm.
@jamesstuart3346
@jamesstuart3346 Жыл бұрын
Awesome video. Keep making 'em
@CuriousPilot90
@CuriousPilot90 Жыл бұрын
Thanks James!
@xYuki91x
@xYuki91x Жыл бұрын
Wonderful video! I liked the graphics and the technical explanations as well as the very authentic ATC conversations and the pilot PA's 😀 there were just enough "ah"s and "uh"s in there to convince me that it was an actual pilot PA 🤣 The ATC was very hard to understand for me, so it was good that you put the text on the screen. Also, since I'm European, I appreciate you putting the °C numbers on the video when you were saying only °F. The flight crew did such a great job! As did you with this video 👏👍👍
@CuriousPilot90
@CuriousPilot90 Жыл бұрын
Thank you. I only used °F first as I try to keep as close to the final report as possible. °C would be how I understand it too.
@SteveD328
@SteveD328 Жыл бұрын
Definitely not real pilot/ATC communications.
@nik.6845
@nik.6845 Жыл бұрын
I actually like channels like yours. Keep up the work also a recommendation: Next time say that in the simulation its an MD-80!
@jamest2401
@jamest2401 Жыл бұрын
You’d think after flight 191 in 1979, that American Airlines would have learned its lesson about unapproved maintenance techniques and procedures.
@davidca96
@davidca96 Жыл бұрын
I love the old MD alerts, the bell then the voice its so unique to MD planes. The stall one is my favorite.
@andrewdewit4711
@andrewdewit4711 Жыл бұрын
Excellent and concise explanation of relative roles of combustion and bypass in turbofan engines.
@MeaHeaR
@MeaHeaR Жыл бұрын
very good, I enjoyed the immersive voice acting, made it exciting
@josephphillips9243
@josephphillips9243 Жыл бұрын
Thank you great breakdown. Nice job by the pilots. It of curiosity when pilots do training and refreshers do they use these past incidents as scenarios?
@CuriousPilot90
@CuriousPilot90 Жыл бұрын
I can't answer for the commercial guys but in the sim we sometimes run previous incidents as it leads to interesting results and discussions afterwards.
@HEDGE1011
@HEDGE1011 Жыл бұрын
The company develops training scenarios based on trends at the company and in the industry. Sometimes the scenarios are almost identical to the initial event, sometimes they’re modified based on specific company procedures. After the ValuJet accident, for instance, cargo fires became a staple of simulator training.
@sean19
@sean19 4 ай бұрын
Well done crew !!
@Psycandy
@Psycandy Жыл бұрын
nice technical report, completely bypasses any human factor which would make the story relatable. good if you're an aircraft technician working on very old and obsolete aircraft which tend to break a lot.
@wendymelvins2459
@wendymelvins2459 11 ай бұрын
These vids are great! Are you Tim Henman?
@CuriousPilot90
@CuriousPilot90 11 ай бұрын
Thanks Wendy, Tim Henman the tennis player? 😂
@wendymelvins2459
@wendymelvins2459 11 ай бұрын
@@CuriousPilot90 Wow thanks for replying so fast! Yes, the very same! I hope you don't take it the wrong way! He is a hero of mine
@lukethompson5558
@lukethompson5558 Жыл бұрын
The engine on this aircraft is actually a LOW bypass engine (JT8D)
@sinx2200
@sinx2200 Жыл бұрын
The voices were great! I thought, that can’t be real people.. then saw the description 😂 got my sub
@EstorilEm
@EstorilEm Жыл бұрын
I don’t have the SOP or checklists in front of me, but uh… when that engine fire bell rings, you pull the damn lever and discharge the fire bottle(s) - pretty sure that’s standard. To wait for multiple repeating indications defeats the entire point of the sensors, systems, training, etc.
@alphalunamare
@alphalunamare Жыл бұрын
They bent the pin in the carburettor! What a gormless thing to do for a Mechanic!
@xxibjrosek
@xxibjrosek Жыл бұрын
It's pronounced (saint loo is). Pretty sure most people haven't said that, but they were thinking it. I would be absolutely terrified and panicking. Good on the crew for staying relatively calm and getting back.
@cchris874
@cchris874 Жыл бұрын
But how much did the pax know, or could they sense any instability?
@Steve.Cutler
@Steve.Cutler Жыл бұрын
I had to turn on cc to see what you were saying when you said St. Louis! 😂😂 You britts crack me up how you say some words. The brittish pilot and ATC was hilarious. Obviously that wasn't real conversation and seemed kinda cheesy.
@zynera
@zynera Жыл бұрын
@Curious Pilot i think the acronym at the start is supposed to be NTSB instead of NSTB. idk if its worth reuploading but throwing it out there
@CuriousPilot90
@CuriousPilot90 Жыл бұрын
Oh no. You are right, thank you for letting me know! I could maybe put a caption up on the video. Not worth re uploading it. Thanks @zynera
@northmaineguy5896
@northmaineguy5896 Жыл бұрын
Nice job by the crew!
@de-fault_de-fault
@de-fault_de-fault Жыл бұрын
I know, I know, it's a DC-9-82 technically, but it sounds weird to hear it called a DC-9. American had several hundred MD-81/82/83, being the largest operator of MD-80s overall and having the type as the backbone of their fleet for many years, yet for most of that time they didn't even like to call them MD-80s, referring to them as "Super 80s" on everything from booking materials to the safety cards onboard to the title under the cockpit windows. So it feels particularly odd to hear it called by its "full" name when it's in that (glorious) livery. Loved the video though, and kind of cool to be able to click the like and push it from 999 to 1k.
@cchris874
@cchris874 Жыл бұрын
Indeed the plane was originally marketed as the DC-9 Super 80 if memory is accurate, which at my age may be open to question.
@Boycott_for_Occupied_Palestine
@Boycott_for_Occupied_Palestine 11 ай бұрын
Beautiful accents of the plane's crew.
@YaBoyFlaky5664
@YaBoyFlaky5664 5 ай бұрын
My mother,grandpa, grandmother was supposed to be on this flight but we changed it narrowly
@DD-wd7ku
@DD-wd7ku Жыл бұрын
There's a very good reason that a particular tool is used for a particular job. A make do decision nearly cost all of those lives.
@eugeneteo9664
@eugeneteo9664 Жыл бұрын
amen .landed safely
@BobbyGeneric145
@BobbyGeneric145 Жыл бұрын
Your comment about what provides the thrust is half correct, and maybe you left it simplified on purpose....at low altitudes the fan provides the majority of the thrust. At high cruising altitudes, it is the turbine exhaust providing the large majority of thrust.
@wayback75
@wayback75 Жыл бұрын
You are correct, at low altitudes , the fan section produces around 75% of thrust and the core at 25%.
@santii9305
@santii9305 Жыл бұрын
Amazing video I wonder how the pilots knew that they had a passenger who also was a pilot
@N1611n
@N1611n Жыл бұрын
He'd have made himself known either in the crew room before boarding or when he boarded.
@MarcPagan
@MarcPagan Жыл бұрын
former airline pilot here....we receive a passenger manifest, company employees are listed
@carolsummers8734
@carolsummers8734 Жыл бұрын
Probably courtesy to let crew know.
@verleguntrumjr.2787
@verleguntrumjr.2787 Жыл бұрын
They don’t pay those guys enough. Just watching this kicked my anxiety in.
@Trump985
@Trump985 Жыл бұрын
These guys did a stellar job, they didn’t panic and land it without the nose gear down they not only saved the passengers but they didn’t tear up a multi million dollar aircraft either! As far as the cause of the fire well shit happens. Let’s face it you don’t always have the correct tool on hand and you have to do what you can to get/keep stuff running. This is the real world not some fantasy land where everything is textbook perfect!
@kunalsaikia
@kunalsaikia Жыл бұрын
The report is from NTSB : National Transport Safety Board not NSTB. Or am i missing something here?
@lyedavide
@lyedavide Жыл бұрын
Did the pilots each receive the distinguished flying cross? They sure as heck earned it. With a lesser air crew this may well have resulted in a total hull loss leading to injuries and deaths of many if not all people on board. Great to see an accident video with a happy outcome!
@cchris874
@cchris874 Жыл бұрын
I'm wondering if the ride felt unstable to the pax. Or were they oblivious throughout.
@aspiringtechnician9252
@aspiringtechnician9252 Жыл бұрын
So, on this aircraft you have to shut off fuel then pull the fire handle? If I'm remembering correctly on more modern aircraft pulling the fire handles shuts the fuel flow valve too.
@xxibjrosek
@xxibjrosek Жыл бұрын
Pretty sure the MD plane in this incident was older. It's likely that the fuel flow valves weren't a thing when they were manufactured.
@gort8203
@gort8203 Жыл бұрын
@@xxibjrosek The MD -80 is not THAT old.
@wayback75
@wayback75 Жыл бұрын
On many of Boeing and MD aircraft,, if not all, the fuel shut off is wired into the fire handles. Pull the fire handle is faster than using the fuel shut off/ start lever . When you get an engine fire warning,, throw that damn book away and pull the fire handle! Coming from a retired airline mechanic.
@rynovoski
@rynovoski Ай бұрын
The fire handles and the fuel valves are actually internally connected. One lever will move the other. I’m not really sure what that was about in this video. Maybe it seemed jammed, and that’s where the jam seemed to be?
@shemp308
@shemp308 Жыл бұрын
One thing I find terrible in all these stories that seems to happen way too often is that a flight crew is in control of a high-tech vehicle and in a life or death situation. And some people in an office have something to say critical of all the things they could or, in fact, should have done. In many of these, the crew did a great job and put the aircraft on the ground. Often with no loss of life. These people should get what is coming to them , congregations, and a huge thank you by everyone, including the armchair quarterbacks that had so critical to say. I wonder just how many passengers actually understand the dangers they really faced. Or did the airlines downplay it, not telling the truth.
@redwolfpiping5701
@redwolfpiping5701 Жыл бұрын
My dad was A&P for Airwork for 30 years, dad would say use the right tool or dont toutch it
@jamest2401
@jamest2401 Жыл бұрын
Although the incident aircraft model is a derivation of the Douglas DC-9, in fact carrying the official/unofficial designation of 'DC-9-82', it is generally referred to as the McDonnell Douglas MD-82. Just FYI.😉
@rodonis88
@rodonis88 Жыл бұрын
What do you use for the simulation?
@x_flies
@x_flies Жыл бұрын
Kinda looks like MSFS2020.
@CuriousPilot90
@CuriousPilot90 Жыл бұрын
I use a mix depending on the aircraft models. For this one it is MSFS 2020.
@SuperLordHawHaw
@SuperLordHawHaw Жыл бұрын
I wonder what happens if the runway has a plane ready for takeoff and a plane needs to make an immediate emergency landing. I'm surprised they didn't have hydraulic leak "fuses" to isolate leaking sections of the hydraulics.
@chipsawdust5816
@chipsawdust5816 11 ай бұрын
Maintenance-induced issues always give me the willies. So avoidable. Always used to tell my guys, if you follow the book, you will never get in trouble. If you follow the book and something happens, I'm the one who will get in trouble (since I wrote most of them lol).
@cosmicdebris42
@cosmicdebris42 Жыл бұрын
The Pilots anouncement to the passengers. "If you've got em, Smoke em".
@jamest2401
@jamest2401 Жыл бұрын
You couldn’t ask for a better flight crew.
@SuperLordHawHaw
@SuperLordHawHaw Жыл бұрын
Little known fact, air traffic controllers in St Louis have british accents
@carolsummers8734
@carolsummers8734 Жыл бұрын
Wow. A true story of a disabled airplane and the great job the crew did to save everyone and the comments are critical of pronunciations and accents! For shame for nitpicking.
@mr.zeitmaschine6878
@mr.zeitmaschine6878 Жыл бұрын
I’m just curious why there can’t be a camera on the landing gears inner compartments showing exactly if the gear really is down or not? That will be so useful and why not have a third engine below the tail like the older 3 engine airplanes where the middle 3rd engine does not run until there is an emergency like this. If a plane can fly with one engine, then in that case there will be a full working engine ready in case any or both engines go out? I know it’s extra weight but that kind of safety is more important then the extra weight the plane can load instead of the 3rd engine. Sorry not a pilot but just a curious plane and flight enthusiast. Thanks
@rynovoski
@rynovoski Ай бұрын
Weight and drag. Engines are reliable enough that it’s not necessary. Dual engine failures are exceedingly rare. Most aircraft, including this one have some way to confirm the position of the gear. Might have just been easier to ask the tower.
@AwesomeAngryBiker
@AwesomeAngryBiker Жыл бұрын
as a professional angler, i can absolutely guarantee that every pilot, mech, etc who comments here will be bragging that they're mech's, pilots, how many hrs they have, planes theyve worked on etc🙄🙄
@CuriousPilot90
@CuriousPilot90 Жыл бұрын
As a professional voice actor, I concur with this comment. I’m a pilot…👀
@lprophit
@lprophit Жыл бұрын
im not a pilot just watch these videos and when the fire started the whole time i was like why are they not shutting the engine down and pulling ffire handles that said amazing job
@charlesjohansen1716
@charlesjohansen1716 Жыл бұрын
Does anyone know how old the plane was when this happened?
@rynovoski
@rynovoski Ай бұрын
19.
@bjn714
@bjn714 Жыл бұрын
13:20 was this pulled from the CVR transcript? Because as far as I'm aware, the DC-9 didn't have the capability to dump fuel, so that seems like an odd discussion to have.
@CuriousPilot90
@CuriousPilot90 Жыл бұрын
It was. If you have a spare moment, the final report with attached transcript is linked in the description.
@bjn714
@bjn714 Жыл бұрын
@@CuriousPilot90 Thanks, I'll check it out for sure. Appreciate the response. Cheers!
@gort8203
@gort8203 Жыл бұрын
@@bjn714 It's probably not a DC-9 but an MD-80 series.
@bjn714
@bjn714 Жыл бұрын
@@gort8203 MD-80 series didn't have the ability to dump fuel, either. And I downloaded the full report to read the transcript and it was a DC-9-82 (so an MD-82 before they actually called it an MD-82, so you're essentially correct there), and the flight crew oddly did make a brief reference to dumping fuel, but it seemed more like a "since we can't dump fuel" type of discussion from context, rather than a discussion of actually _planning_ to dump fuel. It was only one brief mention, so it wasn't really an active discussion about dumping fuel.
@gort8203
@gort8203 Жыл бұрын
@@bjn714 Yeah, that makes more sense. One wonders why even mention it in passing. I suspect the F/O may have still been or was recently flying in the AF Reserve or ANG, and the airplane he flew there was capable of dumping fuel. Since you practice emergency procedures much more often in the military than in airline flying this habitual consideration for an emergency return came to him briefly out of habit,
@No-Me3
@No-Me3 7 күн бұрын
I'm glad you don't do the radio reading anymore. No offense. I do love the vids, though.
@CuriousPilot90
@CuriousPilot90 3 күн бұрын
Ahaha, none taken! I trialled it for this video, didn’t get a fantastic response. Lesson learned. 😁
@bobwilson758
@bobwilson758 Жыл бұрын
Don’t worry about the cockpit door - Just a ghost from the last crew this aircraft nearly killed !
@maxtornogood
@maxtornogood Жыл бұрын
Losing most electrics & all hydraulics would be a death sentence you'd think. They were lined up for landing just in time!
@rynovoski
@rynovoski Ай бұрын
This plane is flown manually by cables and pulleys. Hydraulics are not required for the basic flight controls. Electricity would lower the workload but also not needed.
@martindehavilland-fox3175
@martindehavilland-fox3175 10 ай бұрын
I never worked an MD/DC-9 Interested to know, does it not have a RAT?
@rynovoski
@rynovoski Ай бұрын
No. Not really needed.
@budwhite9591
@budwhite9591 Жыл бұрын
How did it go that smooth with no hydraulics
@rynovoski
@rynovoski Ай бұрын
This plane doesn’t really rely on hydraulics, with a few exceptions.
@GaryNumeroUno
@GaryNumeroUno Жыл бұрын
Makes me laugh that the bean counters are now actively trying to get rid of the copilot from the cockpit just to save a bit more money and make even more profit!!! Single crewing is going to lead to more accidents when captains get overwhelmed during an emergency.
@dehoedisc7247
@dehoedisc7247 Жыл бұрын
Apparently the nose landing gear was successfully dropped into a down and locked condition by gravity means, although not actually stated by the narrator.
@knrdvmmlbkkn
@knrdvmmlbkkn 10 ай бұрын
10:11 This guy is good at maths!
@christerry1773
@christerry1773 Жыл бұрын
Shout out to these pilots! Were MD80 engines controlled by FADECs? I assume it was more conventional, but there would still have to be some computer involvement i would think.
@wayback75
@wayback75 Жыл бұрын
The aircraft involved was an older DC-9 and not an MD-80
@christerry1773
@christerry1773 Жыл бұрын
@@wayback75 ok DC-9 then. My question remains the same
@wayback75
@wayback75 Жыл бұрын
@christerry1773 The MD-80s , and the DC-9 are two different animals,, most MD-80s are equipped with FADECs , however the old DC-9 engines are not computer controlled. Pure mechanical. The engine on the MD-80 is also a PW JT8D but of a completely different design with a lot of computer controls incorporated in to it.
@wayback75
@wayback75 Жыл бұрын
@christerry1773 let me clarify,, the MD-80 is a DC-9 but of a different variant.
@christerry1773
@christerry1773 Жыл бұрын
@@wayback75 ahh. I didn’t realize fadec has been around for that long.
@paulbellingham3948
@paulbellingham3948 Жыл бұрын
I think they did awfully well, phrase from an old engineer mate
@maxtek73
@maxtek73 Жыл бұрын
I like the real videos of planes malfunctions, his does not cut it. no continuity in the story and what you show.. no people all cgi with maybe a few "borrowed" scenes. these videos are mostly sterile of any reality, no people, no crew no captain showing him work the controls. not to be an ass but for most people I am sure your videos are great, so I am not criticizing you! I know making videos can be exhausting work so to the quality of your work is excellent.
@memadmax69
@memadmax69 Жыл бұрын
Yea, ur supposed to pull the extinguishers immediately as soon as the fire alarm goes off... You'll lose the engine but its better to be safe than sorry...
@au_kryptosilverstacking6576
@au_kryptosilverstacking6576 Жыл бұрын
Should finish off the vids with what happened to these airplanes mechanics/engineers
@broeheemed32
@broeheemed32 Жыл бұрын
138 passengers and only 3 waitresses? Budget.
@rynovoski
@rynovoski Ай бұрын
One flight attendant for 50 seats. Standard in the US.
@mudd4284
@mudd4284 Жыл бұрын
What don’t planes have external cameras so pilots can see EVERYTHING
@douglas2lee929
@douglas2lee929 Жыл бұрын
Very frustrating that SO MANY major plane crashes involve hydraulic lines or electrical wires damaged due to mechanical damage from some other component, or from fire. Certainly all those wires could be run through fire resistant metal conduits of some sort. Yes, that would be a weight penalty. So run three less passenger seats. 600 pounds would get you a heck of a lot of 1.5 inch metal conduit. I have this gut feeling that there is just too much sloppiness by hydraulic system mechanics, no doubt due to supervisors screaming at them to work faster. Crap runs downhill, so until the CEO and all the Directors and Vice Presidents can man up and tell EVERYBODY to slow down, pay attention to detail, double check every important step, and be SURE the job is done right, all of this will keep happening. I think nearly all mechanics WANT to do things right, they are just pushed too hard. The CEO should be forced to ride on one of these jetliners once every month, after a rushed hydraulic maintenance or repair task is performed. Getting some of these CEO's to have a pants dirtying experience might change things.
@johniii8147
@johniii8147 Жыл бұрын
It was a MD-80.
@user-tb7rn1il3q
@user-tb7rn1il3q Жыл бұрын
The MD80 is a sub variant of the DC9. It’s basically a stretched DC9.
@louieuow
@louieuow Жыл бұрын
Did any licensed aircraft mechanic lose their accreditation?
@breezecreationsllc9381
@breezecreationsllc9381 Жыл бұрын
They should have never left.
@Gokool_wid_Life_coz_YoLO
@Gokool_wid_Life_coz_YoLO Жыл бұрын
@ 02:42 The way jet engine works, I'll never forget, Suck sqeeeze bang and blow.. Lol 😅
@CuriousPilot90
@CuriousPilot90 Жыл бұрын
Education has taken place 😂
@rphelan62
@rphelan62 Жыл бұрын
OMG, those horrible accents of crew and ATC😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@sludge8506
@sludge8506 Жыл бұрын
The ATC voices were a reenactment.
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