Sony ZV-E1 vs Lumix S9

[@TerryWarfield]

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[@randallbrander8157]

I own both I love the 24mp pics and 6k video better. Plus the Panasonic LCD is better than the Sony. I did apply the firmware update version 1.2 for the S9 which removed the video record time limits but I get an extra minutes. I also have the Smallrig Grip and Panasonic Wrist Strap for the S9. ZV-E1 has extra ports and features is why it is more expensive. Cheers!

[@jon112media]

This was the comparison I’ve been looking for thanks brotha!

[@soholingo]

'bout time! Been waiting on this comparison since the S9 came out, thank you for bringing this to us Terry!

[@thefourthquarter7429]

The S9 feature with LUT system is interesting because both videos and photos can look similar. Love it, but gotta say, I wish Panasonic had provided a full featured camera in that form factor and charged a higher price.

[@thepan]

AF performance is better in Sony. It is obvious already. BUT the current lines of Lumix S cameras focuses much better than even Fujifilm's flagship non-medium lines, and Lumix's firmware update ACTUALLY improves AF performance unlike Fujifilm. Also with that S9 pricing, it can be Panasonic's most important camera to date, as it can lead more people into the full-frame territory, at a price of a top-line APS-C cameras out there.

[@thepan]

Both are great for what they're intended for, but people were overexpecting from the eyes of the target audience that these cameras are aimed for.

[@apsaravideo]

Good job. Thanks for the comparison. I like the S9 stabilization. But love the Sony's arsenal of lens !!

[@DaPoets]

I use the Sony ZV-E1 w/ GM2 16-35mm and love it

[@AoyagiAichou]

Concerning those IBIS-induced corner wobbles on the S9 - e-stab on standard should correct those. Not sure if that works in anamorphic though.

[@user-gc6lf2ol1n]

s9 full frame, twice pixels, better stabilization... enough to be better of sony already

[@cineffect]

But the rolling shutter 🤦

[@peterra2532]

4k60 is only in apsc mode, bad rolling shutter, AF not good as sony, no all-i h265 compression…

[@MonstaBlocka]

I have a Panasonic S5IIX. I borrowed the Panasonic S9 to test. It's annoying to see the compromises you have to accept. But I have to say the fun factor is high. The size and weight are good and this new app works fantastically and easily with my iPhone. This LUT department is not to be underestimated and speeds up the work process a lot. I bet you'll upload a lot more pictures to social media because it's so quick. Take a picture with the right LUT, quickly on the iPhone via Bluetooth, color grade, social media = 1 minute 😀

[@nickalot]

i like the look of the s9. it makes me want to bring it out and not attract attention. i take more images with it.

[@kentmemories]

Fair and excellent comment. $1500 vs $2200.

[@damienvalites5455]

Dollar for Dollar that 12mp sensor in the Sony ZV-E1, Sony A7Siii and Sony FX3 STILL REIGNS SUPREME for video. I don't think Sony can even compete with themselves to come up with a movie camera sensor that is better. Those three cameras are so good I see no need to even consider the FX6 or FX9. And believe it or not, some of these dudes are saying they'd rather have a couple FX3s than an ARRI! The entire film THE CREATOR was all shot on the Sony FX3 and it was incredible enough to be shown in IMAX. In very low light (like moon light) the full frame quality of that sensor is absolutely beautiful - especially if you set your iso right. No one can convince me otherwise - The deal you are getting for full frame video with the Sony ZV-E1 is the best (especially if you add that Tilta fan cage). I couldn't possibly fathom choosing that S9 over the ZV-E1. The ZV-E1 is well worth it, the only obstacle is adding the tilta fan cage and keeping it cool for the extended run times.

[@InTheStreetsWithQuis]

Stop believing KZbinrs lol the entire creator film was not filmed on the FX3 the director already debunked that one

[@jmackultra]

​@@InTheStreetsWithQuis where he did that?

[@Abdi_Mohamed_]

The creator was NOT shot in only the fx3 lol the director already mentioned this on his interview WITH a KZbinr on here lol

[@damienvalites5455]

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[@andersistbesser]

Ja 12 mp... This means i would never buy such a camera. I want a hybrid camera , sony is to expensive for a video camera only. I want great pictures as well. Lumix is better for me

[@ChubbyShade]

Can we get your full review on your Shure MV7 Microphone? Just bought one & would love to see YOUR review.

[@OkayDip]

How much time do we need to wait once the record limit or heat limit of the cam is reached for both ?

[@lfcruzsierra]

Already have a Sony, tired of that slow ass workflow. Lumix S9 for me!

[@brettgoulder5208]

Out of curiosity, what do you mean by slow ass workflow?

[@denverdog7715]

What picture profile and video setting are you shooting the s5iix in?? It looks amazing

[@wakeywarrior]

1.5 x crop on 4/60 and low max recording times kill the S9. ZVE1 is actually a ‘bargain’ for what you get. If shooting in 4/60 the ZVE1 has less crop on it in dynamic than the S9 does with its stabilisation due to ridiculous friken 1.5 crop on that S9 60FPS. That clear image zoom as you say is underrated.

[@markr041]

1. IBIS on the ZV E1 is substantially inferior to that on the S9. It sucks. 2. The S9 shoots 6K open gate and 4K supersampled from 6K. Much more detail than the 4K of the ZV ZE1. These are very important differences. But, ZV E1 high speed video is better - 4K, no crop. Less rolling shutter.

[@TvBoxHead]

​​​​​@@markr0416k 420 open gate is a gimmick because 4k 422 has more dynamic color range than 6k 420 with a crop. Cropped frame+ 10bit 420 = less picture and color per frame than 4k 422 no crop. The s9 might as well be an apsc

[@markr041]

@TvBoxHead "Color" dynamic range? What's that? Nobody has shown that 422 looks different than 420, and the HDR spec is 420. I provided the advantages of the zv e1;they are real and visible. Just like its disadvantages - lousy stabilization and less than 4K resolution. Almost no creators shoot clips longer than 15 minutes; that includes the most famous film directors. If you need to shoot with a camera for long takes, you need a tripod anyway, so there is no point getting a compact camera of any brand. These comments seem to come from spec inspectors not videographers. Btw, I shot a lot of videos with the zv e1. I gave up because of its inferior stabilization. And, the best advantage of open gate is in using anamorphic lenses. 422!

[@geekcommentator8567]

Terry Frickin Warfield, love it man.

[@leocasati]

cool video bro!! Im new here, just to say thanks for you good work. Cheers from Brazil! 😎

[@jaymills1720]

Great video Terry ❤

[@ChristopherDavis1103]

Can you use the S9 as a webcam?

[@TerryWarfield]

Not easily :(

[@ryaneb3]

Until Panasonic comes out with decent compact lenses to match its body, it’s Sony for me.

[@Giovanni-Giorgio]

Full-frame sensors need larger lenses most of the time.

[@gordon3988]

Sigma has a few.

[@walrusgumboot]

I got a couple of Sigma i series, they’re pretty compact.

[@MonstaBlocka]

I use Sigma Contemporary Lenses, Cheap, light, good build quality, F2

[@dukecha]

Great Frickin’ video!

[@KikoPL]

4k 60 no crop and 4k 120, better mic and hot shoe, also more lenses on the market, zv-e1 4me

[@robharrand]

S9 with a digital hot-shoe and no recording limits would be a no brainer purchase. Shame.

[@PaleHROse]

Awesome info

[@imranalijafar]

does S9 has time-lapse?

[@Wildridefilms]

Yes, it does

[@imranalijafar]

@@Wildridefilms does it stitch too or you need to do it on pc ?

[@Wildridefilms]

@@imranalijafar everything is done in camera

[@quentin6233]

There isn't a Panasonic camera on the planet that doesn't do time lapse. They old Lumix G7 from nearly 10 years ago does time lapse and stitches them together

[@Wildridefilms]

Also, for cameras without EVFs, the display has to be good. The Sony's display is dull, washed out and low resolution vs the sharp, vibrant and bright screen on the S9. The Sony screens are damn near unusable outdoors.

[@neilrocks25]

True but the image is so much better.

[@Wildridefilms]

@@neilrocks25 how is it "so much better"? Similar DR, slightly better in low light (mostly due to heavy NR) and no control over NR and sharpening.

[@seanbrucemedia5695]

@neilrocks25 You just lied for absolutely no reason at all. LOL! That's terrible. 😂 SMH.

[@markshirley01]

​@@neilrocks25it doesn't matter how good if you can't see what your recording. I shot an outdoor event for the first time this weekend on a A7R5. It was a nightmare as the rear screen and EVF are poor in my opinion. Indoors fine, it made me reappraise the A7R5 completely

[@neilrocks25]

@@markshirley01first time using it? Maybe it wasn’t set up properly and it’s totally different camera.

[@kevkevdellarocco8681]

Jim Green African Ranger spotting @ 10:54

[@andersistbesser]

Why do you compare the lumix to this sony? The sony is a video only camera. Sony a7c is the real competitor to this camera

[@Lucy.mp4]

he said in the beginning that its not an ideal match-up but it waws specifcally requested by viewers

[@andersistbesser]

@@Lucy.mp4 its no a match up at all.funny thing is everyone compares the video features and no one the photo features. If you do such a dumb comparison you should at least compare everything 12mp sony vs 24 mp lumix with high resolution 96mp mode🤣 but sony fanboys dont do that , they only higlight what a video only camera does well but they sti insist to compare a hybrid camera to a video camera...To me this is biased and unfair

[@rw3452]

R2D2 is when I hit the like button

[@SHH_Fishing]

Love the sensor caps ! Just got the zve10 and it did not come with one.

[@TheSaggyBag]

what?

[@MaximoJoshua]

You already know what ima say...

[@MaximoJoshua]

So, if I wanted that 6k 30 Open Gate, and wanted to spend less than a ZV-E1...what camera would give me that with no record limits, mechanical shutter, EVF, hot shoe, audio monitoring, etc?

[@joematiacio3449]

Yea, the LUT feature and workflow is a game changer. AN often over used term, but LUMIX Lab is well above the Sony's Creator app and Fuji's apps. The camera is so much fun to use and I have the A6700 for photos (sports), but I'm using the S9 more often for street and occasional vids.

[@TvBoxHead]

6k open gate is a gimmick because it comes with 10bit 420. 4k with 10bit 422 has more color range than 6k 420 with a crop. Cropped frame+ 10bit 420 = less picture and color per frame than 4k 422 no crop. The s9 might as well be an apsc

[@CharlieVN]

10 bit 420 is NOT a gimmick, you're comparing 8 bit baseline, 420 would give 90% improvement, 422 100%, you will have a hard time seeing the difference if you can at all. 422 is better for green screen, but eyes will have a hard time picking the difference.

[@TvBoxHead]

@@CharlieVN what you said only proved my point further. Human eyes are flawed and subjective. computer data expresses what is objectively true. Just because you cant tell doesnt change the fact that the statement is true. Anything you cant see with the naked eye can be seen in the editing.

[@CharlieVN]

@@TvBoxHead you are missing the big picture, you can visually see image differences between 8 vs 10 bit, you cant between 4:2:0 vs 4:2:2. On a practical level, windows machines are absolutely thrashed trying to edit 4:2:2, which makes it worse in practice. As flawed as the human eyes are, that's the final say.

[@wheelsupbardown]

Great comparison video! Panny missed the mark for me because I was hoping for a smaller B-cam to my S5ii that could use the same lenses. That record limit kills that for me. That's just for MY use though.

[@quentin6233]

It's unlimited with an atomos ninja. I'm not saying to go out and buy one, but many people who do lots of video already have monitors that record in their kit. I'm just saying

[@wheelsupbardown]

@@quentin6233 That is good to know, even if it doesn't help me. I just want a smaller cam to grab when I want to be light in the airplane that could share lenses. Even if talking head in the studio, I'd buy another s5ii for that price. Just doesn't work for my needs, but I hope your comment helps others!

[@markr041]

​@wheelsupbardown What's the point of compactness for use in a studio taking 30-minute clips? S9 is a high-powered compact camera for going out and shooting nimbly. That does not require clips of multiple minutes. Most creative films/videos consist of very short clips. 15-minute limits are shortcomings for only very specialized video. If that's you, fine.

[@wheelsupbardown]

@@markr041 a lot of talking head takes more that 30 minutes

[@markr041]

@@wheelsupbardown That's my point - it's locked down video. Lock the camera in one position. No need for a compact camera for that. If you are talking about vlogging - holding a camera, walking and talking - no one does that for 30 straight minutes. The S9 is a compact S5 ii. So it's whole advantage is being smaller and lighter.

[@krazyk57]

08:19 😂😂😂

[@markperritte]

ZE-1

[@KofiYeboah]

First 🔥

[@soholingo]

Yoooo! Did you say the S9 has time limits and over heats??? 😮😮😢😢😢

[@andersistbesser]

Just like the sony a7c which is the real competitor to this camera

[@soholingo]

@@andersistbesser A7C doesn't over heat or hace time limits.

[@soholingo]

@@andersistbesser no time limits on the a7c, and I have used it for 2 hours without it overheating.

[@noahwilliamlee]

Frickin'

[@TerryWarfield]

Say it 3 more times, click your heels together then watch what happens!!

[@tjsopoci]

This was your most FPM (frickins per minute) by far. ​@@TerryWarfield

[@KLOCinematics]

Sony is still the King for video. Higher resolution is overrated and extra "sharpness" isn't cinematic. The thing is, is that Sony is still the better choice simply because the ecosystem has way more pros than any other camera manufacturer. I have shot multiple Catholic Ceremonies at 4K 24 FPS and the ZVE1 never overheated nor shown signs of overheating and the record limit was an hour and a half. That to me is so wild. I use Dynamic Active Stabilization if I want to get a handleheld shot at 85mm making it around 100mm. If you're going to walk in a straight line and expect to get some crazy good stabilization handheld, that's literally what a gimbal is for. I personally don't have a need for Open Gate.

[@pureheartvisuals]

We get your point Bro, you don’t like LUMIX and sticking with Sony 😂. All that other stuff is subjective 😂 trust me I’ve shot all of the brands and I couldn’t definitively downplay one over the other.

[@andersistbesser]

It has a 12mp sensor.. i cant use such a low resolution camera for my Pictures. The sony is a overpriced Video only camera and it does not even have open gate and 6k i would never buy such an outdated camera.

[@MonstaBlocka]

The S9 is more for Instagram and TikTok users. After testing the S9 I understand the Concept, and they made it well, cause the new app with the LUT etc

[@pureheartvisuals]

@@KLOCinematics 4 Weddings, S9 connected to Atomos Ninja V - 2 hr 17 minutes no overheating. Additional angle for my multiple S5 II Sirui Anamorphic lenses used to capture B-Roll for short films currently in production. Personal EDC taking gorgeous photos in X-Pan. Uploading straight to socials. S9 well suited above expectations. You are over fan boying Bro. I came from multiple A7S iii

[@thatchinaboi1]

Lumix S9 has terrible readout speed.

[@quentin6233]

You act like the S9 is designed to make short films. At what point are you and others going to realize the target market and stop criticizing it for not being like a cinema camera or a high-end photography camera when that's not what it's intended to be.

[@thatchinaboi1]

@@quentin6233 Stop pretending that it is in the same league as Sony.

[@soholingo]

I don't understand why the S9 has any ports on the same side as the hand grip. That makes zero sense...

[@z352kdaf8324]

That's not a handgrip 😅

[@nickguzman1734]

They got a lot of flack on the older portable models because the ports would obstruct the articulating screen. That's really my only guess why though

[@soholingo]

@@nickguzman1734 makes sense.

[@walrusgumboot]

If you put it in a cage?

[@rscotthinkle]

This is the one main reason I want it. Put it on a desk mount with cables coming out the side opposite the screen. See the screen completely unobstructed (even the mic jack is above the screen). Output the HDMI to the Elgato camlink. Plug in power. Boom, no time limits, no obstructions and have a much better setup for streaming, meetings, etc.

[@masterche1980]

Rubbish for $1500 and a normal camera for videographers for $2200