Tesla Energy Crisis

[@StarCoreSE]

0:25 That mercedes guy having the hardest laugh of his life...

[@DOYLECLEVERLOBE1]

Like maybe one day but not today.

[@dezz00002]

Just until he realizes that there's a lot less waiting than he thought, since charging is carried out with 14 cars at a time, not one by one... Most of those in the line of 15 cars had to wait only one car to finish charging really.

[@nekocekoBiHMK]

@@dezz00002 That's still more than an hour of just waiting mate, best case scenario. Then another hour to charge. Lmao

[@StarCoreSE]

@@dezz00002 yeah but with 10000000 gaz stations it's faster than 14 chargers ! Yeah it's dumb, I'm just applying your way of thinking.

[@dezz00002]

@@nekocekoBiHMK Normally you charge to 80%, which is about 30 mins with a newer Tesla. (Charging speed is lower above 80%.) You need more stops but overall charge time will be the half this way. (No need to pay attention to the percentage while charging, you can set the limit in the car. The navigation system will take it into account as well.) Some could even charge less. It's preferable to slowcharge at home/workplace on AC (or from solar cells on the roof) usually, if possible, anyway.

[@SpicyCurry]

On a completely unrelated note: beautiful scenery.

[@cree8k]

Nice camera!

[@etherialwell6959]

Yeah I can see why they design the landscape well: so one could stay there for ever.... ;-)

[@NickeshN]

Look at the bright side: it's a zero emission traffic jam :)

[@matthiasmartin4355]

Half of California's electricity is not renewable. So maybe, but can't be sure.

[@RandomGuy-nm6bm]

@@matthiasmartin4355 he meant the motors aren't emitting co2 while standing

[@THEANGR1ESTANGEL]

NO IT´S NOT! The production of a Tesla type battery uses humongous amounts of energy. Depending on the source, it causes Co2 emissions that big, you can actually drive around in a modern german diesel for years! Not to mention you have to replace your battery after 90 thousand miles!!! Leaving a big pile of toxic waste at this time. Do you even know where the lithium comes from and what havoc that causes to the eco system? Please educate yourself and spare us your simplistic view of things. Oh I get it, it doesn´t stink then and there. How selfish can one be?

[@NickeshN]

@@THEANGR1ESTANGEL Sure, you are totally right. I'm just being optimistic about the general idea. I believe they will finally develop a better way of manufacturing the cars. The technology is still evolving. Come on, let's have a hope! What else has left? We don't even have a choice, do we?

[@The_Ballo]

@@NickeshN Of course we have a choice. It's called the internal combustion engine and it's a lot more efficient than you give it credit. What you're pining for is nothing more than a FETISH

[@dw9501]

Atascadero is 17mi away it also has a charger. Edit: Buellton also has a charger, so if you're traveling literally no reason why everyone needs to use only charger at San Luis Obispo

[@goldengate415]

Atascadero also jammed with huge lines... as was Buellton. This has been the busiest SC in the network for a long time and it's ridiculous that after last Thanksgiving's lines we are going through this again. They tried a Megapack semi the day before Thanksgiving but did not count on Thanksgiving's I-5 closure of the Grapevine which shifted everyone to 101. They desperately need to add a charger in Santa Barbara, King City and Santa Margarita. Yesterday. Ridiculous there's a huge gap between Salinas and Atascadero.

[@jlwall]

This video needs more context. Grapevine closed on Thursday so the majority of socal NorCal travelers needed to stop either here Buellton or Atas. They were all queued 20 deep. We got a hotel stay at the Madonna and charged at 8pm and the line was gone. The supercharger network does not seem to be ready for holiday traffic plus snow closing the 5 on grapevine. Tesla owners feel this pain probably 2-3 times a year, and the other 10-15 trips there is no queue. This cannot be sustainable at the rate we will add more model 3 y and truck owners over the years.

[@Monkeyseemonkey79]

Yes they also have chargers. Yes they also have long lines.

[@jonnieinbangkok]

Unless you're down to your last few electrons 😁😁😁😁

[@michaelyaroslavtsev2444]

Atascadero is a serious uphill climb from SLO. Some of them wouldn't make it.

[@tsaikanting]

This year I drove my Lexus from Palo Alto to Las Vegas for 7 hours with only 1 gas stop and 2 meal stops. Last year, same route same kick off time (11AM Wednesday), with Tesla 250mi cruising range, it took us 12 hours and we had waited at 3 Supercharging stops (Kettleman City, Mojave, and Baker, with meals on site). Some hassle there but it sure leaves much to be desired.

[@uwantsun]

@@default2826 Liar. It doesn't exist. I've asked mechanics about it. It's all hype. You CIA trolls suck.

[@dezz00002]

Did you charge to 100% all the time? It's preferable to charge to 80%, it needs half the time to reach. You will need more stops but overall charge time will be the half. Provided there are enough charging stations on the go.

[@dezz00002]

@@uwantsun The newer Model S called 'Raven' has a range of 373 miles. www.tesla.com/models

[@flyingdiscproductions]

so you actually did something during that charging time?

[@flyingdiscproductions]

@@dezz00002 that is what smart experienced EV drivers do!

[@Origami84]

Glad to see they are doing their part for the enviroment. Me? No, no, i have a normal car, i am not stupid.

[@fleatactical7390]

And you're not killing the environment in a different way from mining the batteries only to send them to the landfill because they fail prematurely before their warranteed lifespans. Oh, and let's not the "carbon footprint" from the burning of coal to PRODUCE the electricity. "Doing their part for the environment" is questionable.

[@bradtem]

Another question -- did the closures of I5 and other highways due to snow play a role in this long line?

[@AdrianYM]

100%

[@OjaiRoy]

good point.

[@THEChadBooker]

Tesla had a 10 spot mobile supercharger here on Wednesday/Thursday/Friday in anticipation of this. Looks like they should have kept it another day.

[@willbracken2367]

Mobile chargers hooked up to diesel generators. EVs are a scam (and horrible for the environment). But hey, there's a sucker born every minute.

[@poppaluv]

@@AndrewGregor Not when you factor in the emissions from mining the battery components, child labor, cargo ships crisscrossing the globe to put it all together. My 1971 Riviera has already proven to be greener, even with no catalytic converter and dino fuel for another 40 years...

[@poppaluv]

@@AndrewGregor I literally live between 2 refineries in s. louisiana. btw your electricity used to recharge is brought to you by by coal-burning or LG plants.

[@Russell_L365]

@@willbracken2367 So are Hybrid cars that use a gas engine to charge the battery.

[@StebanHern]

@@Russell_L365 Hybrid don't count in this argument. Also Hybrid can't compete with either end on its own.

[@easy08154711]

14 Cars are waiting for 12 Superchargers, if I counted correct. That means you wait max 30 minutes to be on a charger. Not to bad actually.

[@jackheris687]

You should watch some of the other videos of teslas waiting.

[@Dorsz3000]

It's 15 cars and 14 Superhargers avaiable. But anyways it's still not that bad

[@easy08154711]

@@Dorsz3000 BTW, I waited yesterday 15 minutes at the gas station for filling up Diesel.

[@richardpetek712]

@@easy08154711 Exactly. And this Supercharger situation was on holidays.

[@metube336]

Only 30 minutes, eh? Not bad; only TEN TIMES longer as it takes to fill my gas tank. Oh, yeah, then after the 30-minute wait, you still have to CHARGE THE CAR! Apparently, your time is worth nothing.

[@jannos3592]

utopia meets a real life :-)

[@voerdenx]

If you drive 30,000 miles a year, you will save a large amount of money each year by waiting a few hours each year. The relevance of waiting is completely overestimated.

[@THEANGR1ESTANGEL]

@@voerdenx: And thanks to the likes of you, energy prices will skyrocket in the near future, mark my words.

[@FacuGonz3]

@@voerdenx Oh Tesla fanboys............ Dude. Time doesn't comes back. TIME IS HUGELY UNDERESTIMATED.

[@flyingdiscproductions]

yup - certain things take awhile to catch up! this is great!

[@rumperdumper]

@@FacuGonz3 Yeah it must be so much worse having to wait every once in a while on a road trip. WAY worse than having to go to a gas station and wait in line instead of charging at home overnight.

[@MeColinYouWho]

Turn Lamp posts into charging points.

[@ChristianJog]

There is a company in Gemrany called Ubitricity that is doing just that!

[@guntherd.2005]

You really believe you can pull 100KW of power out of a cable supposed to power a simple light bulb? Bad thinking.

[@MeColinYouWho]

@@guntherd.2005 Yes, trickle feed a capacitor to charge the next car. In fact I found out the Germans are already doing it.

[@kde5fan737]

@@MeColinYouWho Just go away please.

[@flyingdiscproductions]

EASY!

[@uwedippel]

I'd love to be the owner of the shop for food and accommodation at that supercharger. It'd surely supercharge my ROI! (And the scenery is also beautiful, by the way)

[@valerieh707]

the way to solve this is charge more often so you don't HAVE to stop at the busy ones. That is also holiday traffic in California. Most superchargers are never full.

[@willbracken2367]

Great! So, when you REALLY need them, they're unavailable!

[@tiptoucher3694]

@@willbracken2367 Only if you live in Cali!

[@mordys6305]

Or get a real car.

[@Searanchabalonebay]

What happens with PG&E decides to pull their plug for a PSPS?

[@rebemup]

Same thing that happens to gas pumps without power...however at home my generator can fill the Tesla.

[@ericstephen1318]

Elon has stated that supercharger locations effected by the PGE PSPS will have solar panels and battery backup available in the near future.

[@scsirob]

@@ericstephen1318 Solar panels. Right.. I have 19 panels on my roof, covering about 40 square meters. On a good long day in summer they produce 35kW over the duration of an entire day. On average it's more like 10-20kW. Please calculate the area needed to power these superchargers (I counted about 16?) on a not-so-sunny short winter day, and tell me how much sense that makes.

[@kde5fan737]

@@scsirob These stupid Fing people - I never used to say things like this but they deserved to be talked to like that. They think electricity just rains down as magic pixie dust that flows into the copper tubing that fills up their batteries. What do you mean my 4 harbor freight solar panels can't run my 3500sq ft house AND charge my 3 tesla's!

[@flyingdiscproductions]

@@kde5fan737 ?

[@AxelNotHuman]

Super chargers aren't meant for every time you need to charge, long distance travels

[@akzebraminer]

Yeah that’s what they are doing and a part of I-5 closed on Thanksgiving Day. That’s what caused this disaster.

[@kens97sto171]

Like what people do on Thanksgiving. They travel. I like EV's. But I think I would keep my old Prius as a road trip car if I ever got an EV. Us the EV for around town daily use.

[@akzebraminer]

kens97sto171 You could always get a Tesla and rent a car for road trips. And this is a problem only during times like Thanksgiving. It’s usually not busy.

[@kens97sto171]

@@akzebraminer doesn't really solve my problem I like to do car camping and I would need a wagon or hatchback just like my Prius. Not many rentals would accommodate this and they wouldn't be as efficient as my Prius anyway. When I take a road trip it tends to be a 5000 Mile road Trip.. camping along my route. I'd rather just keep my Prius.. $80 a year for tags. Pull the insurance when you're not using it.. The math barely works in favor of the electric car for my use case anyway. I drive 50,000 miles per year, a new model 3 vs a new Prius my break-even point is 6 years best case.. Not really the best financial choice. the Prius is not in the same category as a model 3 there is no doubt but the Prius has more room in the back and more storage and rides more comfortably and doesn't have a weird-ass interior.. I just really really dislike the minimalist interior on a Model 3. To me it comes off cheap and unfinished. I like the Model S more.. But the repair cost on some of the non powertrain components is just astronomical. $980 for a door handle for example. the best option for me right now would be a Chevrolet bolt EV for my city drive around car and keep my Prius for road trips.

[@The_Ballo]

Thanks for reminding me why I will never own an EV

[@richardpetek712]

OK, I have counted: there were 14 charging stalls - and 14 cars were waiting in line. So yes, each one had to wait in line for about 30, maybe 40 minutes to get it's spot. That's called returning on a holiday afternoon / evening. First world problems.

[@mordys6305]

Liberal turd problems

[@youtubeaccount9058]

Come on Tesla, we need "midair refueling" battery trucks that recharge your car as you roll down the road... we know you can do it...

[@nggods]

if only the US gov't spent a few %GDP on electric cars, it might actually happen!

[@ReviewOrcsUSA]

Yup. Electric trucks. Cybertrucks... Oh wait

[@dezz00002]

​@ You can get enough energy for 250 miles in 28 minutes. kzbin.info/www/bejne/a3e6nXmagdyJb5Y

[@kde5fan737]

@@nggods The government is entitled to exactly ZERO % of the GDP.

[@nggods]

@@kde5fan737 Military spending is calculated on % of GDP sometimes? Isn't that a good enough benchmark? On Wikipedia for instance, it lists the US as spending 3.2% of GDP on military. (2019 fact sheet for 2018) en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_military_expenditures

[@Iamwolf134]

Thing is about solid state batteries; I WOULDN'T call it a full stop to ICE CARS, as the technology can easily be implemented as a means to replace LEAD-ACID batteries currently used in cars while delivering similar characteristics.

[@Dorsz3000]

I've counted 14 chargers and 15 Teslas waiting in line. Some of the charged ones might be already finishing. And it's only 20minutes to charge to 50%. Not much of a deal. Only the 15th one will have to wait longer than half an hour

[@blasdelezoyolavarrieta7346]

I don't see the crysis either.

[@sohitmalik9865]

They won't consider you, they just need something to cling onto...

[@Centrioless]

So waiting almost 1hour is ok to you? 🙄

[@Dorsz3000]

Centrioless Assuming the worst scenario that all of the charging vehicles just started and they will be charging for 20minutes only the last one of the line will have to wait 40minutes.

[@Centrioless]

@@Dorsz3000 20mins waiting ppl whos already on the charger. Another 20mins waiting for your car to charge. That 15th car will have to wait 1hour. As adoption rate going up, this problem is gon get worse. This is why liquid fuel can nvr be replaced (especially for aviation). It's just not very practical for large mobile device.

[@redsquirrelftw]

Reminds me of when Canadian Tire decides to sell gas for only a buck as some kind of promotion and you see everyone lining up burning half a tank of gas just to get gas slightly cheaper lol. With an EV at least you can just charge at home, I would never rely on public chargers as my sole way to charge, that's just nuts waiting that long.

[@WaywardPondering]

And no diesel truck rolling by to flex his ego? A missed opportunity there. 😜

[@kde5fan737]

@Jay Santos Along with a massive 100yard burnout while doing it!

[@t4705mb6]

Reminds me of the long lines in the USSR.

[@richardpetek712]

Actually - 14 cars were waiting to get a spot on 14 chargers. That's a waiting time of 30, maybe 40 minutes. Once in a year, on holidays. I don't think that this is a real problem.

What's really concerning is that hybrids and plug-in cars have not increased their mileage and battery only range since their beginning, hybrids in 2004. If they can't improve that in two decades, how are they going to improve EVs anytime soon?

[@PowerhawkFiveThousand]

1:08 That kid has got some style.

[@brandon6541]

Lol

[@ryan0714123]

What is the camera? Nice vid.

[@jkgiygigoiuholjojouihgiygf1952]

I was going to ask the same..

[@xALKENx]

looks like P1000

[@EddyMoquette]

​@@xALKENx mmm not so sure, P1000 doesnt record 4k/60fps

[@HexaSquirrel]

Looks like an Iphone camera.

[@andreleiroz]

I wondering the same

[@goncarvandre]

Why do people don't recharge to small public stations ? Those of 22kW or 50 kW ? It may charge longer but you don' need to wait so much. Can charge just enough to go to the next supecharger. Be creative

[@adriansilveanu7915]

Yes, this does look similar to the photos of 1973 oil crisis, except that here the Superchargers are still too slow.

[@zolikoff]

Considering it's being powered by diesel generators right there behind the stalls, it would do even worse in case of an oil crisis.

[@tiptoucher3694]

@@zolikoff Except it's not.

[@aycc-nbh7289]

And that there are alternative options if the Supercharger is overcrowded: one could use the ChaDeMo adapter to charge at a ChargePoint, EVGo, or Electrify America location.

[@flyingdiscproductions]

"Superchargers are still too slow." is that all you have ?

[@slamdvw]

@@zolikoff diesel generators eh? Where did you see that?

[@WilliamDeanPlumbing]

Mad holiday travel crowd. I've been to this spot a few times and it's always has an open spot to charge upon arrival.

[@steelman86]

Get out the drone Steve and head down over the grade to the Inn next week!!! LOL. As long as you will be there, pre order a champagne cake 😊 and pick it up after your filming!!

[@peterbierwirth8016]

Why didn't the Tesla drivers rather buyx one of the available fuel cell cars? Here they are: 2005 - Hyundai ix35 FCEV / 2007 - Honda FCX Clarity - hydrogen fuel cell / 2010 - Mercedes-Benz F-Cell / 2014 - Hyundai Tucson FCEV / 2015 - Toyota Mirai - production version of the FCV concept car / 2016 - Riversimple Rasa / 2016 - Honda Clarity Fuel Cell / 2018 - Hyundai Nexo? I'm still driving my Mercedes 190E built in 1986 and didn't ever have 'charging problems' for 33 years. However, I must concede tht the Tesla Model X possesses quite attractice looks that might justify its price of $75.000,00.

[@slamdvw]

Where does one find hydrogen to fuel their cars with? I think electric is more readily available. That's the beauty of a capitalist system, we're free to choose to buy what we want! I wanted an electric car, so I bought the next best thing - a Volt. Electric when I want it, range when I need it ( Volts are extended range EVs... they carry their own generator with them ).

[@peterbierwirth8016]

@@slamdvw Hydrogene ars will come in the future. Being free to buy what one wants is perfect as long as you have money to buy it. A Chevrolet 'Volt' is - to my knowledge - not yet made available in Europe. When I see the waiting queue for the electric cars in the video, I'd rather keep on driving my old 'Baby Benz'. But when it comes to design, I prefer Tesla X to Chevy Volt.

[@slamdvw]

@@peterbierwirth8016 "Hydrogene ars will come in the future. Being free to buy what one wants is perfect as long as you have money to buy it."

[@davescardcreations]

This is too funny because near me is a Tesla Charge lot (on the outskirts of a Walmart parking lot) about the same size as this one in the video...and I have NEVER seen more than two cars charging in it at the same time!! I've often said "not enough Teslas to make it worthwhile I guess". LOL

[@bradtem]

So I don't see the megapack portable charger in the video. Is it there? Did it run out and get towed away? This was what it was supposed to prevent. SLO and Atascadero are notorious for undersupply.

[@richardpetek712]

Nobody knows, but it was probably placed at that day at some other location, helping to fight the congestion there.

[@AlexSchwartzATV]

You should see my local Sams Club every single day.

[@youtubeaccount9058]

Yeah Costco too, it's always crowded why can't they put in more pumps?

[@stator7646]

I thought of that as I was watching the video lol!

[@homomorphic]

Yeah, except that a pump fill takes 3 minutes so the Sam's Club line is about 10 minutes long. This line is over an hour long.

[@stator7646]

@@homomorphic True.. but if you fill up weekly, that time quickly adds up. Those people in the supercharger have longer wait times because its a busy holiday and multiple road closures. We charge our model 3 at home which fill up WHILE we sleep. The only time I go to costco gas and waste TIME and MONEY is when i need to fill up my corolla.

[@homomorphic]

@@stator7646 I own a Chevy Bolt, I know how they work. Sure, for commuting from a suburban home, BEVs are fine, they're just useless for long distance travel and for dense urban environments where folks don't have their own garage.

[@seetruth4875]

Doesn't it take way too long too charge? That line looked huge

[@willbracken2367]

Tesla cars are great until you need to travel...or they catch on fire.

[@tiptoucher3694]

Most people only charge for 15-20 mins. About the same amount of time to pee and grab a drink. Maybe watch a KZbin video on the built in viewer.

[@seetruth4875]

@@tiptoucher3694 Ok thanks will check it out

[@kde5fan737]

@@tiptoucher3694 15-20 mins to get a drink and pee? do you have bladder or prostate problems or something? You should really see a doctor about that. I can do both in under 2 mins at a gas station and even fill my tank while I empty MY tank inside & get more delicious refreshment to refill it.

[@ausfuhrungg7337]

Mom are we there yet? 🤪

[@richardpetek712]

"Well, honey, we'll have to wait for half an hour to get a charging spot. It's holidays. Do you want to play a game on Tesla's computer?" I remember when I was a kid and we had to wait for a ferry for hours _without computer games or KZbin on each smartphone._

[@checix69]

someone should drift there with a v8

[@SmokinPaul]

Hahaha LOL

[@brandon6541]

Loll

[@slamdvw]

Why? so they can get their ass handed to them by a Tesla at the next light?

[@rongtan1007]

This is one of the reason I'm not getting a full EV at the moment.

[@mark97213]

Where do these charging stations actually acquire their power? What is the source?

[@cosmojuicer]

Not 100% sure but after this debacle they might have to build about 28 coal power plants. Hopefully near Silicone Valley. Captain Planet is not pleased.

[@tiptoucher3694]

It's 100% coal sourced. It's not the right answer, but it's the answer you want.

[@mark97213]

@@tiptoucher3694 Do you think the majority of EV drivers realize how this power is delivered to the stations or do most just believe it's free power?

[@tiptoucher3694]

​@@mark97213 Literally every EV owner knows the power comes from some dirty sources (some are 100% solar, but few). Even at 100% coal, the most polluting source, an EV is cleaner than most ICE vehicles. Either way, they are powered by 100% American energy, which to me, is very important. I would rather give Americans money than some prince in the middle east to buy another gold jet ski.

[@danielangeles86]

​@@mark97213 of course they know. They also know that electric motors are 80% efficient in converting electricity to mechanical power while combustion engines only convert 20% from petrol.

[@kurtwomack9474]

Like a herd of Lemmings. Some chargers were sacked, wonder why?

[@rizzochuenringe669]

@Jay Santos Probably because one of the diesel powered generators in the background ran out of diesel 🤪

[@richardpetek712]

They were brand new, but not connected yet.

[@slamdvw]

@@rizzochuenringe669 Where did you see the generators? Surely a genset that big would be easily seen or heard! You're mistaken.

[@rizzochuenringe669]

@@slamdvw As @Richard Petek mentioned: "They were brand new, but not connected yet." So they couldn't be heard. :-)

[@slamdvw]

@@rizzochuenringe669 still didn't see a generator. Saw a huge green transformer, but no diesel generators.

[@sugarrfree]

What if someone is tryin to “catch” a plane?

[@kennybob3096]

They need to drive faster to catch a plane

[@joshiepooh]

This video will be used until the end of time by Tesla FUDsters even though the charging network has more than doubled since this video was taken.

[@fleatactical7390]

Still NOWHERE close to what availability needs to be. 45K stations now with a currently estimated need of half a million across the country. I don't have time to kill or any interest in stressing out about whether I can find a station on a trip.

[@grzesiek9229]

On what camera are you recording?

[@darkhorse0102]

It is pretty f*** up when you are stuck in the middle of a road trip like that waiting for juice.

[@eyalnaveh7832]

I love the kid at the end waving. haha

[@bikesqump]

I drove thru PA, OH, WV and IL round trip over the holiday weekend, those are CA problems haha! only time I've seen lines like that are during hurricane sandy when the gas stations were rationed and the fossil cars had to wait hours for a drop of gas! I think I posted a vid of that on my 'tube.

[@damPHD]

what camera is recorder?

[@pierrejackson1830]

damPHD someone please respond

[@akzebraminer]

I don’t know, looks like an iPhone.

[@VRReady]

Hawaii doesnt even have level 3 chargers

[@ksnax]

Do you really need them there though?

[@akzebraminer]

Bits Of Everything ?????

[@richardpetek712]

What for? A Tesla can get charged over the night and can run for days. The islands are so small they don't need them.

[@VRReady]

i got 2000 supercharger miles i cant use. itd be nice if they would transfer it to premium connectivity or something. what does it matter if the islands are small, at some point hawaii was supposed to get superchargers. imagine someone telling you that you do not need superchargers in your city.

[@Joesolo13]

@@VRReady If my city was Singapore I'd definitely understand it

[@nielstuccy486]

It's even funnier when you realize how many of those cars have smarmy license plates revolving around "No Gas". They should change their plates to read something like "5 hr wait".

[@amber9040]

I didn't see a single smarmy license plate in this video, just "PAULIG4" which is probably a chemistry joke or something.

[@nielstuccy486]

@@amber9040 But, you have seen them right? CO2 NOMO or LOLFUEL? Was the point.

[@jackheris687]

I saw a tesla driver with plate "usuck".

[@JeanPierre-ow8wu]

Marketing laws vs physics laws

[@hchellan2196]

Great looking video. What was it filmed with?

[@sharegreats2157]

How long does it take to "fuel" a Tesla?

[@akzebraminer]

Normally you would wait 20 minutes. From 0%-100% it’s about an hour. That’s not a normal scenario though.

[@SpiDey1500]

You are charging from 10-80% normally, which is about 20-30 minutes.

[@richardpetek712]

@@akzebraminer That's not what @Share Greats wanted to hear. And even in this scenario, there were 14 chargers and 14 cars in line. Each one had to wait for 1 car to stop charging. In this scenario, because every stall was occupied (and of course no Tesla owner charges to 100%), some additional 30-40 minutes. A little first world problem.

[@akzebraminer]

Richard Petek This is one of the few supercharger stations that are always occupied. It’s a bad location. In most cases there’s no line or maybe a few cars, which takes around 5 minutes to clear. It’s preferable to charge at home for this reason.

[@richardpetek712]

@@akzebraminer Of course it is always preferable to charge at home, but these people were most likely returning from a trip. These weren't locals. I don't know whether people were travelling from Pismo Beach to SF or (more likely) from Morro Bay to LA, in either case, it needs an upgrade. Superchargers V3 might be one solution (faster + no charger sharing), another is either expansion or another location a few kilometres/miles down the road, like in Norway, where Tesla was adding to Gol (8 stalls) also Gol-West (16 stalls). After looking on the map and this fairly big parking area, I think there is still plenty of space to expand this place with additional 12-16 chargers with very little investment.

[@sylvanciferiddy1502]

I swear I saw Dinesh in that line up.

[@cheshirster]

Why are they standing with headlights on?

[@THEANGR1ESTANGEL]

Because they are dimwits, thinking they´re better than everybody else.

[@richardpetek712]

Because they have forgotten to switch them off. The battery has 50-100 kWh. Headlights consume some 150W. They are almost like a drop in the ocean.

[@pangrac1]

15 cars waiting for 14 charging stands is an energy crisis??? Or even a problem? Really? 🤷‍♂️🤦‍♂️😁

[@dezz00002]

Exactly! People seem to think that all the cars are to be charged one by one, not 14 (soon to be 17) at once.

[@james64ibm]

Well, not everyone has 75 minutes to spare when they are already taking 70 more minutes longer than others to complete a trip (provided they only charge up once). And Teslas might be tax-exempt in a number of jurisdictions, but they are not exempt from additional traffic jams if they are finally done charging. Honestly, I would in this case probably just put the plug up my anus and end it.

[@pangrac1]

Waiting time was 40 min max.

[@james64ibm]

@@pangrac1 That's still something I wouldn't voluntarily choose to accept. Electric cars may or may not be a necessity in managing future traffic carbon emissions, but for now the overall lifecycle ressource consumption is still worse compared to the cheapest ICE cars, so you aren't really doing anyone a favor yet, but you get yourself a couple of inconveniences, so it just isn't worth it overall. You can have a Tesla for fun or because you are concerned about your image or the company, but from a practical standpoint it still isn't quite there yet.

[@sharegreats2157]

Where do those superchargers get their current from? From coal power plants, atomic plants or from the socket of the custom house?

[@01crs1]

This is good news. The infrastructure isn't perfect but the demand is here and the race to create efficient and clean energy is on.

[@Origami84]

Good news? Electric cars are still a minority thing, a novelty, and yet there are lines to charge them. What would happen with mass usage?

[@coolbloke1324]

A lot of those seemed to have a similar badge or sticker on the car indicating they were part of some club. Group events like that increase the demand a lot...

[@amberenergyhealertarot6617]

That's longer then the line at In- n- Out

[@altaccout]

Looks like costco gas pumps, but slightly better.

[@bradcarey3661]

But Costco gas pumps are one of many stations available. The gas stations next door are probably empty. People choose to wait 5-10 min to save a couple bucks. These Tesla folks don't have an alternative, apparently.

[@mullholand]

And Tesla might open the SC network up to non-Tesla EVs?? That would make it even worse.

[@tkulogo]

A half hour traffic jam on a holiday trip. It's only interesting because it's not what people are used to. Being help up for 3 hours because a gas car burned to the ground isn't even interesting. (that happened to me an our trip to Idaho.)

[@Monkeyseemonkey79]

Half hour? Explain your math. Unknown wait time + unknown charge time = 30 minutes?

[@tkulogo]

@@Monkeyseemonkey79 there's roughly as many cars waiting as there are charging spots. The average charge stop is less than a half hour, so they should all empty in about a half hour.

[@jackheris687]

Teslas burn also.

[@johny7even]

How long does it take to charge it ( on average) ? Basically I m curious about how much did these people have to wait in line

[@johny7even]

@suke dafuq! I d leave and go back at midnight or something like that

[@OhioDave1345]

@@johny7even You leave, you run out of juice. Then you are sitting in a paperweight.

[@johny7even]

@@OhioDave1345 Suddenly, I love gas

[@android04]

Last time I arrived at a Supercharging station, it took 36 minutes to charge my Model 3 up from 12% to 95%. You don't normally charge to 100%, but only enough to get to your next destination plus a little. As the battery gets full, the charging speed slows down to protect the battery (they are designed to outlast the car). I only needed to be above 25% to get home where I can charge in my garage, and that would have taken like 5 minutes at the Supercharger. But I had to use the bathroom and a meal and the car was at 95% when I finished. And this is on a V2 Supercharger. Tesla will slowly upgrade them in the future to V3 Superchargers that are capable of charging twice as fast.

[@dezz00002]

@suke Do you think all these cars was charged one by one? There are 14 (soon 17) chargers there, not only one. So most but one cars in the line had to wait only one car to finish charging at the charging stalls.

[@strykerace]

By this time next year there will be a huge number of v3 superchargers deployed. Additionally there will likely be a bunch of mobile charging megapacks that can be deployed, this year they are prototyping a couple to ready final design for next year. Having said that Tesla will be selling a ton more vehicles so this problem will be happening for years to come, but seems like Tesla is not standing still and working hard to tackle this problem.

[@jeepxj]

huge number eh?

[@uwantsun]

@@jeepxj He's a shill liar, to keep the agenda 21 going.

[@Alexandroskollias1]

18 x 250kw chargers. In less than 30 minutes this will be empty.

[@sahiel5]

u've seen the future

[@adamnagy1439]

I'm curious about what speed do they get when it's fully occupied?

[@OhioDave1345]

Christ!! What is the 1970's? I will NOT be buying an electric car until this problem is fixed. I have better things to do with my life. BTW: the planet is not going anywhere. It will be fine. We are the ones that are going away.

[@tiptoucher3694]

OMGZSDFSDF!@!@#! CRAZY!!@#! Electric cars so dumbz!! Merica gas carz never wait in gas lines!

[@OhioDave1345]

@@tiptoucher3694 No, we don't wait in lines, to then wait another hour to fill up. People get pissed off waiting in line 5 minutes at McDonald's.

[@ericzihaohuang9644]

@@tiptoucher3694 Have you been to Costco?

[@OhioDave1345]

@Thomas Rock If that happens, everyone will be on. I just want the autonomous car. Gas, electric get me one.

[@tiptoucher3694]

@@ericzihaohuang9644 Yes.

[@ArizVern]

Five percent of your life time your driving. Then two days out of 365 of that time you wait a little. I've ordered a second Tesla (Cybertruck). EDIT: Easy fix, in a pinch. Tesla gives everyone a charge cord to charge at any RV park. Next Tesla gives away Hotels and Motels FREE level 2 destination chargers, which there are all over the place.

[@chadwboyer]

Eat the rich. They go well with A1 steak sauce. Really looking forward to the revolution.

[@ArizVern]

FUNNY!

[@chadwboyer]

@Brutal Honesty I, or someone like me, am your future. AND I can spell. So c'mon, give us a bit of your liver.

[@wolft3571]

More superchargers should be coming there in the future. It's cool to see that it's much needed.

[@falco447]

Yes, but if everyone would use this current technology it would be really difficult to solve I think. We need alternatives. I opt for hydrogen.

[@jackheris687]

And many more teslas being bought every single day. Have fun at those superchargers.

[@CiprianDanPetrescu]

I have 2 ebikes, one escooter and 3 power stations. Somehow I feel that I have unlimited autonomy.

[@markusraulig7276]

Muahahahaha and you can do nothing else😂😂😂😂 Nice holidays

[@slamdvw]

I would love to hear the transformer supplying that place grunt! As an electrician that makes my brain happy! Having to wait in line at a fuel station a time or two, I'd rather wait in my electric car with the A/C on and not have to smell like car exhaust. Not to mention the added heat from idling engines.

[@slamdvw]

@@Neoprototype Looks like the big green transformer towards the end of the video.

[@slamdvw]

@@Neoprototype OH, that was supposed to be one of those "GOTCHA" questions. I'm sure the power comes from the grid, which gets its power from several sources including wind, solar, gas, oil, coal and nuclear.

[@slamdvw]

@@Neoprototype you keep using the word "magically " which implies a gotcha. Ever sit in a traffic jam with little to no wind? Idling cars generate heat and exhaust. Electrics don't. Waiting? If you travel during a busy time such as this, you're going to be waiting for something. Either to charge or traffic to thin out or something. If I have to wait for traffic, I'd rather wait to get some more electrons than be stuck in traffic. Batteries can be recycled. Turbine blades? Instead of sinking steel ships why not use fiberglass blades? There are tradeoffs no matter where you turn.

[@slamdvw]

@@Neoprototype you're correct. I should have specified less heat. Especially when compared to an idling fuel burning engine. I humbly bow to you . That being said, that is one hell of a TV if it is heating a room! I have to use a 1500 watt heater to do that!! What TV is it??

[@slamdvw]

@@Neoprototype yes, batteries can be recycled. Do you honestly believe that a battery costing many thousands of dollars is just tossed in a dumpster like a pair of flashlight batteries? I don't give a rip about "the war machine"... especially when the same thing happens for oil. Texas' problems were caused by humans... who knew their stuff couldn't handle cold weather yet they still decided not to install heaters.

[@bbrandonh]

I believe the reason it's so backed up is because of flooding on a freeway, all traffic got rerouted. There were huge storms recently.

[@ColombianMusclePapi]

Nah!

[@uwantsun]

No, it's was actually most tesla stations, even in my town. Stop telling lies.

[@bbrandonh]

@@uwantsun if you read my comment, I wrote, "I believe". That means I wasn't sure, but it could be a reason. And I do know part of the freeway was shut down with huge detours because of the storm, because I live right there. So, I dont know what youre talking about.

[@DianeDi]

How much does it cost to charge one of these vehicles and how long does it take? I'll never own an electric vehicle for many reasons.

[@christianwalser5532]

if you have an older tesla it's free. on newer models about 0.20$ a minute or arround 10$ an houer. 40minutes will give you about 80% battery, 75minutes 100%

[@DianeDi]

@@christianwalser5532 75 minutes to fully charge? Holly crap, I could have been at my destination and back by then. What are people thinking..... not the mention that electromagnetic field radiation pulsing between your legs.

[@pHD77]

@@DianeDi Most people with an EV probably has a charger at home and therefore only needs just enough juice to get home - and in their garage they can plug their car in overnight and the next morning have a fully charged car (or at least at 80%-90% as recommended to keep the battery pack as healthy as possible). And if they are going to a destination far away you only need to either top up enough to get to another charger (+a 20-50 mile buffer for unforseen events like a broken charger, a route with a lot of steep hills or bad weather) along the route or charge to only 80%-90% as the last 10%-20% takes about as long as charging from 0%-80%. And with Tesla Superchargers I'd say your looking at somewhere between 20-60 minutes to top up your EV. If you live in an apartment, well, that's when it becomes a bit of a hassle to be an EV owner, unless, of course, you are able to convince your landlord to either be allowed to setup a charger for yourself or have the landlord setup charging point for those with EVs.

[@richardpetek712]

@@DianeDi Nobody charges to 100% on a road trip. 40 minutes to 80% is some very old data on the first generation, normally a top-up goes to some 70-80% and it takes 20-30 minutes.

[@slamdvw]

@@DianeDi EMF? hahahahahaha - unless you have an OLD mechanical diesel, modern cars are EMF nightmares!!

[@jaisunnh]

You should come to Alabama. Super charger stations are things that don't exist. You charge at home or not at all unless you drive 100 miles to the big city.

[@godfr012]

On a holiday like this. I wouldn't travel SF-LA or anywhere I couldn't get to on a full charge. I would rent a gas or hybrid vehicle if needed Infrastructure just isn't there. doesn't mean for your normal lifestyle a Tesla or any electric car isn't good. Can't wait for my mach E. The amount of time it would take for that many cars to charge or you to charge yourself would be half the trip.

[@PenningtonFamYT]

This isn't SF to LA, this is along the coast. Also this type of situation is rare. How often does your gas car get a flat or some other trip impacting experience? Probably as likely as this. Also what does the Mach E solve in this regard? There are much fewer charging stations than supercharger locations.. some areas non existent.

[@godfr012]

@@PenningtonFamYT What? Point being any type of trip that would require a 30 minute charge or more is a lot to deal with, especially during a holiday traveling time. When you could easily run into this experience. Mach E definitely wouldn't solve it. So rent a gas car

[@richecks6981]

"Laughs in petroleum"

[@tylerdurden8948]

How long does the charge take with this supercharger?

[@rayamanelly]

That depends on the amount of charge you have remaining. If its low than it charges fast. If you're trying to top off, it charges slower.

[@GTSCommander]

It looks like the 1973 Oil Embargo again!

[@ToyotomiHideyoshiGre]

hybrid vehicle is Practical car than electric vehicle.

[@Hallettjs7957]

WTF!! LOL!! Waiting for the Dodge Truck come pull up and "rolll coal" on them.

[@randymoffatt5634]

This has long been predicted and is only going to get worse. That building they are driving through used to be a gas station. I worked there in the mid-70’s while going to Cal Poly. Even during the gas crisis the lines were not that long.

[@ownlywon]

rich people problems

[@akzebraminer]

It’s like $40K.

[@THEANGR1ESTANGEL]

@@akzebraminer: Yeah, till you have to buy a new battery and pay for the disposal of the old one.

[@akzebraminer]

sharkbait hoohahah You’ll have to replace the battery every 15-20 years. If you drive a lot and need that extra range, you’ll probably need a new car. Replacing the battery is not something that an owner should be concerned about. Also, the battery is recycled for less intensive use, it is not disposed until it’s completely destroyed.

[@THEANGR1ESTANGEL]

@@akzebraminer: It´s easier to fool people, than convince them, they are being fooled.

[@akzebraminer]

sharkbait hoohahah Who’s being fooled? You’re not being clear.

[@jean-phil]

what camera did you use ?

[@MrHeathcliff83]

if everybody goes electric, fine ... then only 10 people at the same time are driving... worldwide... nature is save and all people are together... on tesla charger places... waiting...

[@tonycarden4989]

The Laws Of Physics still apply even to Mr Musk. Watts = Volts x Amps. therefore Amps = Watts/Volts. In the US that means a Tesla Charging Station to deliver 150 kW of charge in a domestic situation needs a system that can deliver 1350 Amps (150000/110) . In a 3 phase system operating at 480 volts to deliver 150 kW you will require 180 Amps So to operate a 100 car charging system, charging two cars at each station (50 stations), requires 50 x 180 amps = 9000 amps. You might need a serious network upgrade to deliver that amount of electricity.

[@dezz00002]

Wrong. Larger consumers are supplied with high voltage electricity usually. High means thousands of volts.

[@tonycarden4989]

@@dezz00002 I don't think that you understand electrical distribution. Whilst you may have a 10 kV system supplying an area you still need a transformer of sufficient capacity to step down from 10 kV to 3 phase or single phase. to supply 50 x 150 KW charging stations operating at full capacity requires a very large transformer. Large transformers are expensive and are not normally an off the shelf item. This why the long queues are there.

[@dezz00002]

@@tonycarden4989 Of course, you need transformers. Not necessarily a big one but several lesser ones. What do you think what are those blocks behind the Supercharger stalls on the left in the video?

[@tonycarden4989]

@@dezz00002 This is what I am referring to. "Tesla supercharging stations charge with up to 150 kW of power distributed between two cars with a maximum of 150 kW per car, depending on version. They take about 20 minutes to charge to 50%, 40 minutes to charge to 80%, and 75 minutes to 100% on the original 85 kWh Model S." This mega pack is a major piece of electrical equipment. The grid supplying that mega pack must have the capacity to supply that amount of electricity. Of course there are transformers there. There always would have been transformers there to supply the existing chargers. From my experience having installed large electrical equipment, a grid upgrade is usually required and takes some planning by the electrical authority involved.

[@dezz00002]

@@tonycarden4989 This spec is for V1 (version 1) Superchargers. The V2 and particularly V3 will be (much) faster. Upgrading of existing charger stations is underway. The insallation of a Supercharger station is not a big deal for power companies. It's like a lesser factory. The new Megacharger for the Tesla Semis, that will be something...

[@aaronstestlab]

Out of curiosity, what was the actual wait time?

[@nawab256]

I think charge times are like 2 or 3 hours

[@Muonium1]

@@nawab256 lol no. typical charge time at a supercharger is like 30-40 minutes

[@nawab256]

@@Muonium1 wow they improved it that fast? I was always told 2 hours

[@RamiroNegri]

Wait time less than 20m. There’s 14 cars on the line, and 14 stalls being used. It takes 20 m to get all those charges fully charged and give space for the line to move pretty quickly

[@IvoHristov1]

@@RamiroNegri are you sure? If only 1 car is charging it is 20 min. but when all stalls are full the charging current is divided and the time is increased significantly.

[@civedm]

Do they have to pay to have their vehicles charged?

[@dpyro]

No

[@ejhickey]

@@dpyro Seriously ? the recharge at these stations is free for the user/drivers? Someone must be paying for it? Question is who? tesla? State of California ?

[@bufordmaddogtannen5164]

THE TAX PAYERS PAY ADDED IN BY CHARGING AN EXTRA BUCK OR 2 FOR A GALLON OF GAS.. SICK AINT IT?

[@ejhickey]

@@bufordmaddogtannen5164 So Tesla owners are freeloaders? thought so.

[@wibla2578]

Most of them pay to charge, except for older S/X cars

[@Chris-1962]

How would those spot mobile superchargers be powered? Diesel generators?

[@NaijaBoiTellEm]

Imagine seeing a (almost) three year old video trend just for the purpose of FUD hahaha 💀💀💀.

[@RTYB]

This is actually encouraging. Look at all these people that decided to go BEV. Nice.

[@Traumglanz]

I must admit, I waited a few times longer for gasoline than this. Sucked back then, sucks today.

[@zherenlian1154]

No solution like traffic congestion.

[@shortaybrown]

It’s great. USA just needs more chargers. Electric Cars are the future.

[@willbracken2367]

Not. They are terrible for the environment (especially in expansive places like America). Keep in mind those electric fueling stations rely on fossil fuels to create the electricity.

[@docsopwith2536]

You are ill informed and a robot of the greenies.

[@mainzwinger]

Remind me on the oil crisis in the early 70´s

[@davidldudley]

But much more efficient.

[@aycc-nbh7289]

So would they only offer charging to people with even-numbered plates?

[@slater1182]

How much $$$$$$ did you make on this video.

[@lewisheasman]

What's with the people saying nice scenery? It's literally just dead grass hills.....

[@rayamanelly]

I'm going convert a flat bed truck into a rolling battery and offer rapid chargering. We come to you for a nominal fee 😌😙

[@SpiDey1500]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/hZiYln6KZ9GDbK8 you are to late 😬

[@flyingdiscproductions]

good idea - plus others have had that idea 30 years ago.

[@damienspectre4231]

"1908 Driving in these early days was always a challenge. Dirt roads that the horse found perfectly acceptable became impassable quagmires of mud for the automobile. No gas stations dotted the roadscape. As far as navigation was concerned, forget the road map (none existed) and be happy you even have a road to travel" - Smithsonian early days of the Automobile >>>>>>>>>> TESLA FOLKS TODAY ARE THE PIONEERS.WORKING THROUGH THE GRIT FOR REST OF US

[@MsUltrafox]

And this is why a dual power car wins. No electricity no problem just switch back to good old gasoline.

[@tiptoucher3694]

Nah, just not living in Cali is a win.

[@alsolo1]

malicious joy, 4 hours to wait and you cant leave your car

[@flyingdiscproductions]

who said you cant leave your car?

[@richardpetek712]

Wrong. There were 14 chargers and 14 cars in line. Each one had to wait just 1 car to finish charging. Waiting time in such a situation: 30-40 minutes.

[@alsolo1]

@@flyingdiscproductions i mean you have to be near by Car and cant go for a Lunch for example

[@flyingdiscproductions]

@@alsolo1 were you there? is that how you know?