Tesla Mobile Solar EV Charger with EG4 inverter and battery

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Grid Free or Die

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@holdon4992
@holdon4992 2 жыл бұрын
Ps. Solar panels hate heat. Foldable legs under each panel to raise at least 6” from the ground would help cool the panels with airflow.
@nabubito
@nabubito 2 жыл бұрын
kinda ironic since the hottest thing we know is the purpose of the solar use
@holdon4992
@holdon4992 2 жыл бұрын
@@nabubito yes it’s ironic that something that needs to sit in the sun hates heat.
@anderj235
@anderj235 2 жыл бұрын
Think he was trying to keep weight down.
@holdon4992
@holdon4992 2 жыл бұрын
@@anderj235 actually even if you used plastic cups to raise the panels off the ground, that airflow would help cool them. It’s a DIY project anyway. Improvisation is key.
@johnwang9914
@johnwang9914 Жыл бұрын
With hot pavement, you'll need a lot more than six inches clearance. In Texas, a parked sedan would not be able to keep up with the AC but a parked pickup truck would and that's due to the clearance over the hot pavement. Those panels on the road, six inches or not would be hot enough to fry eggs on.
@nmosfet5797
@nmosfet5797 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video! But it just kills me that this would be so easy to do with existing electronics already in the car, if only the EV manufacturers would provide a DC input for the solar panels, without having to resort to external batteries and inverters. This setup has so many voltage conversions: 1) step-down from PV to battery, 2) step-up from battery to intermediate 120V DC voltage, 3) invert from 120V DC to 120V AC for the car AC input. Feed AC to car, 4) rectify from AC to DC in the car and 5) step up to the EV battery's DC voltage. All this could be done with a single DC to DC conversion from PV to the EV battery if you could just get the DC voltage from the PV directly to the intermediate DC bus inside the EV's AC charger. From there on, it's just software to set the operating point of the step-up circuit.
@JB-fy3hj
@JB-fy3hj 2 жыл бұрын
Preach
@Infinion
@Infinion 2 жыл бұрын
The RealSolarCars YT channel has a custom board that does exactly this. I believe the current iteration is for 72cell solar panels, manages 300W charging up to 400V, CAN interface contactor outputs with coil economizers, lots of additional features that might be desired for a DC-DC SEV.
@zaneenaz4962
@zaneenaz4962 2 жыл бұрын
Totally agree !! Just make it easier for people with PV at home would be a big start. Wil Prowse showed how he charges his Tesla from home PV. This case shows roughly 1kW Solar PV, so roughly 4 kWhr per day, or 16 additional miles. Being able to quickly add 5x or 10x that PV to your EV would be super cool.
@james10739
@james10739 2 жыл бұрын
I said something similar
@suunraze
@suunraze 2 жыл бұрын
Aptera has said their vehicle will have an input port for external PV arrays (I believe). In case you want to supplement the onboard PV
@usertogo
@usertogo 2 жыл бұрын
This setup belongs into a trailer, this way you can leave it charging at your camp site while you have full use of the car. You would add other amenities to the trailer too, and it could become a great product to build and rent out to the world...
@knuthf
@knuthf 2 жыл бұрын
Correct and the solar panels should be placed on the roof of the car so it charge while you work. The rest of the fancy setup can be bought as a 4.8KWh battery with inverted to deliver 110/240 VAC - to charge the car. They are included in the batteries with solar panels. 5KWh is what regular driving needs every day - 7KWh is 30 miles/ 50 km of driving. A camper towing a 5 KWH battery with solar panels has enough electricity to power a freeze and induction oven - no need for propane.
@usertogo
@usertogo 2 жыл бұрын
@@knuthf sure if you can integrate it so it doesn't cost anything additional drag. Otherwise have a utility trailer outdoor kitchen, refrigerator with foldable solar covered shade roof, battery and charger, and you can bug out much more conveniently when the time comes! By the way I want to see videos about taking your ev (tesla) off line - for the 5#!4 hits the fan situation - with hacked Ai and bezerk government and what you can't even yet imagine...
@joe55514
@joe55514 2 жыл бұрын
And when it’s not powering the car, it can power the house.
@manikdesign
@manikdesign Жыл бұрын
This is the type of video I like about KZbin. Individuals posting their talents. Thankyou sir
@Ludmila2508
@Ludmila2508 Жыл бұрын
I love how much smaller and lightweight this is than my older power banks kzbin.infoUgkxU45wIUiiQjrUWgrFNORkYxVlmCsYWENJ and yet it charges even more. Bought one a couple months ago and loved it so much I purchased a second one and gave it to my granddaughter as a gift. We're avid campers so power banks are an absolute must have. I also like to keep these charged for when the power at home goes out which has happened a couple times this year. They are so convenient and easy to use. You can charge multiple devices at the same time. The compass is a nice added bonus. I appreciate how quickly this arrived. I am curious to see how long these take to charge in the sun.
@martydouglas1802
@martydouglas1802 2 жыл бұрын
This shows how easily a home charging set-up can be for free charging at the house. Or like another comment,on a trailer. Great job.
@habiks
@habiks 2 жыл бұрын
yeah.. really easy - only takes you a week to charge it up.
@martydouglas1802
@martydouglas1802 2 жыл бұрын
@@habiks Man at least the dude is trying!! So give it some time. What size system will we need? We haven't got. There yet. Independence is the end game.
@h8GW
@h8GW 2 жыл бұрын
Home solar storage system would be a more practical use of funds if you want to charge up for "free".
@jdcjr50
@jdcjr50 2 жыл бұрын
This inspires me to look further into an ev conversion for my little car. Of course by then this will have been perfected even more. What a nice bit of work there.
@Terrillthegreat79
@Terrillthegreat79 2 жыл бұрын
By then it’ll be a car cover you plug into your vehicle
@ecurb10
@ecurb10 2 жыл бұрын
@@Terrillthegreat79 Hey now THAT'S a good idea!
@josephtpg2205
@josephtpg2205 2 жыл бұрын
Natural gas conversion is cheaper. You could use gasoline when you run out of natural gas
@ecurb10
@ecurb10 2 жыл бұрын
@@josephtpg2205 Yea but that's not the point
@ecurb10
@ecurb10 2 жыл бұрын
I've looked into that too but it's very expensive!!!
@moonobservergilles5730
@moonobservergilles5730 2 жыл бұрын
being capable of doing all this yourself is remarquable. thumbs up
@SirHackaL0t.
@SirHackaL0t. 2 жыл бұрын
I’m impressed that you got all that weight onto the tow hitch within specs. Nice job dude.👍
@ayayotoko
@ayayotoko 2 жыл бұрын
true. Maybe placing it on top like a roof box or something and just slide it out if he needs to charge the car :D
@krzysiekkrzysiek8234
@krzysiekkrzysiek8234 Жыл бұрын
​@@ayayotoko The location of the panels on the roof has one disadvantage - it will increase air resistance and this will reduce the range
@__WJK__
@__WJK__ 2 жыл бұрын
This is where EV pickups (w/TRADITIONAL short/long beds) make a ton of sense... since solar can be easily added to the truck's roof, the truck's folding tonneau cover + additional panels can be added to a simple slide out bed tray!
@CelebrityLyrics
@CelebrityLyrics Жыл бұрын
That's where the cybertruck comes in :)
@Richard-nb4iv
@Richard-nb4iv 2 жыл бұрын
For your holes through your trunk, you could look at something like a " Blue Sea cable gland" they are water tight and used in saltwater environments. I was always wondering if this was possible and now I know it is! This is a great idea!
@extraincomesuz
@extraincomesuz 2 жыл бұрын
There's a study in Australia printing PV on labels. Now they are looking to print perovskite(?) panels to increase output. Hopefully, in a couple of years you can roll up a lightweight solution or paint your Tesla with PV paint.👍😁You show me an amazing build, nice work!
@koxy333
@koxy333 2 жыл бұрын
I love the idea and it’s neatly done. Only thought, how much extra energy is being used by lugging around this additional weight and drag? Is the system producing enough power to cover this additional usage caused by the weight
@Dorn-Dvinn
@Dorn-Dvinn 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent point.
@michaelsmithers4900
@michaelsmithers4900 2 жыл бұрын
As long as you get significant time with the charger in the sun every day it should work out
@Dorn-Dvinn
@Dorn-Dvinn 2 жыл бұрын
@@michaelsmithers4900 How likely is that if it sits in the trunk for weeks only to he used in emergencies? If it is to be used daily why not use a permanent system?
@shaynegadsden
@shaynegadsden 2 жыл бұрын
No it doesn't workout 1.2kw of solar would ideally be about 6kwh a day (for solar you calculate on 5 hours per day) but they aren't angled in the correct direction so that won't even happen but assuming you do get that 6kwh with out the other losses in the system on a stock vehicle weight and best efficiency it would add 30 miles per day but the truth is rarely to people get the upto max range numbers to start with, then you have added about 10% increase in the cars weight and as i said the panels face the wrong direction which hoping it is clear around the car the ground being the worst location to have solar they face straight up so only make peak power for a few hour during the middle of the day and finally every step of the system has losses so power is lost in the charger, in the charging of the batteries and again in the discharging and in the inverter and finally in the cars charger and it's batteries an honest figure he would be lucky to get 4kwh of usable power a better idea would be to put all that on his garage double the solar and a few extra batteries and plug into that every afternoon
@domg7359
@domg7359 2 жыл бұрын
@@shaynegadsden Very well stated. Yeah this is going to drop the range of the car more than 30 miles as well. Carrying flat panels like that on the rear of the car will reduce range significantly, then you have the weight penalty. The use case I can see for this is camping and off-grid applications.
@davidk3729
@davidk3729 2 жыл бұрын
Brilliant for those in California, Arizona, Gobi desert, Australian outback. Here in north east England it makes the news when there are three sunny days in a month.
@johnwang9914
@johnwang9914 2 жыл бұрын
In many jurisdictions, it is illegal to block the view of the rear license plate like that. People have been ticketed for having bicycle carriers on the back like than. You need to have a license plate holder on the back of that contraption or mount your plate higher. Personally, I think they should put RFID tags in the license renewal stickers similar to the toll tags and have the police equipped with long range readers as well as have such readers on publicly available dash cams maybe even on mobile phones, hence obfuscating the need for license plates to be visible.
@Ultrajamz
@Ultrajamz 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah often you need a separate tag to place on the hitched thing as well
@ryanolson2430
@ryanolson2430 2 жыл бұрын
That was my first thaught, you might get manhandled for not having a plate. They tried to pull my pregnant girlfriend through the window for speeding in the lowest crime town in Arkansas. It was peaceful here😬
@michaellim4165
@michaellim4165 2 жыл бұрын
License plates are also needed for catching croocks by the general public. How is the raid going to do that if you don't have anything, not even a phone with you?
@johnwang9914
@johnwang9914 2 жыл бұрын
@@michaellim4165 That's the thing, if it was just a machine readable RFID tag such as with a toll tag, a few strategically placed readers such as at intersections would be enough to identify the vehicle and their travel from just a witnesses report of where, when and just a vague description of the vehicle. It would be far more effective for the situation you are concerned about than requiring a witness to remember a license plate number. The logs of the readers would of course need to be encrypted and any access to them logged as to why they are being purviewed for anything other than general traffic information. Many of the tag readers might already exist as cities such as Houston placed such readers a long time ago just to monitor their own bus movements and traffic on major roads long before cities just bought traffic data from Google. Also the Apple Bluetooth tracker already shows that by just having all iPhones periodically scan for any nearby trackers and report any hits to Apple's server with the GPS location of the phone at the time was sufficient to track the tracking device. It isn't necessarily the witness that can read the RFID but any of the numerous devices the vehicle would pass to do so, all the witness would need to do is report the act they witnessed, access to the logs gathered from traffic lights, street lights, dash cams and mobile phones in the area would do the rest and much of this we already have. We already do this to a small extent with police canvassing the area for dash cam, doorbell, and security camera footage in the area.
@michaellim4165
@michaellim4165 2 жыл бұрын
@@johnwang9914 Too much overhead and red tape. At the snails pace that local governments move when making decisions, this won't be implemented unless strong political forces says otherwise. The motto is "why fix something that isn't broken". Ask me how I know now.
@jkfeatherranch
@jkfeatherranch 2 жыл бұрын
This is awesome. This is definitely something we would need when we get our next vehicle for camping which will be electric. This will be a nice way to charge up the battery when you're out in the middle of nowhere.
@ericdirnbeck3497
@ericdirnbeck3497 2 жыл бұрын
FYI, on the Model Y the maximum tongue weight for a trailer is 350 pounds but the maximum vertical weight for bike racks including the weight of the rack is only 160 pounds.
@CrossWindsPat
@CrossWindsPat 9 ай бұрын
This is a silly, but honestly ingenious and ironically practical solution! This refined and with some real efficient panels would be a pretty stellar setup.
@jamestroske2513
@jamestroske2513 2 жыл бұрын
Add some small casters or skids for easier foldout, it would keep them off the ground and help cool them. Awesome idea.
@kevinwelsh7490
@kevinwelsh7490 2 жыл бұрын
additionally, you could deploy the solar panels and charge your Tesla WHILE DRIVING
@jamestroske2513
@jamestroske2513 2 жыл бұрын
@@kevinwelsh7490 If you are going to post idiot comments, post them as your own idiot post.
@johnwayne8475
@johnwayne8475 8 ай бұрын
Bravo ❤ truly innovative! You have just solved the charging network problem for EVs. Looking at the surface area of the panels needed and with some improvements in panel technology, we are not that far off from being able to mount these on roof racks with awning system that can expand over the top of the car when parked, from control of the computer, and collapsed version that continues to operate on the roof whilst being driven.
@AerialWaviator
@AerialWaviator 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. While this project was an amazing example of making a portable mobile solar charger, a similar fixed-base home setup solar could be just as effective, and likely see more usage. While Renogy 100W are very portable, but come at higher cost/kWh vs. larger fix mount panels. (some great deals on 1/2 life used solar panels can be found) Perhaps a trailer installation that could double as camper would offer mobile portability without concerns of panels being run over? A trailer might also offer larger surface area, and could continue to harvest energy, even if not attached to an EV. Guess it depend on needs and wants. Still a great demonstration.
@philpreston3072
@philpreston3072 2 жыл бұрын
You'll lose a fair bit of range once you start pulling a trailer
@upspincreek2210
@upspincreek2210 2 жыл бұрын
Incredible setup! I want to build something similar on a toy/cargo hauler. Thank you for sharing!!
@alittleofthisnthat5665
@alittleofthisnthat5665 2 жыл бұрын
Good stuff...be nice to show the charge screen of the vehicle to see it receiving charge, just which was a huge oversight to all things covered
@CampPrevost
@CampPrevost 2 жыл бұрын
I read comments on how this won’t work - I say DD keep going! I think the concept is working fine. If you drive from home to work, lay this out - you could probably do the round trip for free. That’s awesome! This isn’t intended to get your across the country - although who knows with concept 5! I am sure someone said who could run a car on a double A (I know a little different) but the guys a $B now. Be neat to see the kilowatt/mile comparison- charge rate on the car - get all the numbers. Good work and keep going!
@georgivachev6723
@georgivachev6723 2 жыл бұрын
Great work! I have tested similar system with my Model S and the problem for me is that it is too heavy. I wish there was an MPPT DC charging station for Tesla =) so we can avoid heavy battery and halve the weight of electronics.
@ernestozilberberg257
@ernestozilberberg257 2 жыл бұрын
Everybody complaining about the panel gaps on teslas… this guy made a solar roof and used the gap to route the cabling. Good job!!
@dukesilvergold
@dukesilvergold 2 жыл бұрын
This is a great demonstration that a solar charging option is "possibly feasible" for cybertruck, once commercialized, with better weight reduction, higher efficiency energy harvesting, cargo bed roof integration - especially for cybertruck outlanders.
@GR-cf4qh
@GR-cf4qh 2 жыл бұрын
Glad to see I’m not the only one thinking this. When you figure in the extra weight and wind resistance I suspect it would actually use more electricity from the grid with the panels in place, at least for a daily driver.
@shaynegadsden
@shaynegadsden 2 жыл бұрын
@William Arrington you are being too generous with your numbers is was only 1.2kw of solar ideally but even in summer with long days and clear skies it would take about 5 days to get your 60kwh charge so if the cyber truck has a 200kwh pack you would need the better part of 3 weeks and that is still being generous because that isn't factoring the bad panel angles or other system losses honestly for a cyber truck it would be lucky to get 1 full charge a month in summer
@mordanistl9869
@mordanistl9869 2 жыл бұрын
Dude extremely well done, that is some straight up nerdification rite there and you have just made your self grid free great job
@thatdudelex2025
@thatdudelex2025 2 жыл бұрын
portable battery makes more cense, you can also solar charge the battery at home. If you always need one with you get two and swap them out when needed.
@themosttoast3733
@themosttoast3733 2 жыл бұрын
Also, you could bring it in the rental house and plug it into the dryer outlet. Or leave it at the RV campsite to charge while you drive around.
@fvrrljr
@fvrrljr 2 жыл бұрын
photovoltaic / solar thermal technician here: crude, very crude that's putting your creativity into action there will be haterz out there and guys that love it👍 *i Like, OLE'!* 💃
@michaelbosen879
@michaelbosen879 2 жыл бұрын
I own a Tesla and really like this idea. Your build is excellent! I built mine a little differently. I put it on my van using a latter rack using unisistrut. But that means I have to drive two vehicles to where ever I charge. Yours has the advantage of always being with you. That's a great idea! I love your solution. I also have about three same amount of solar. The one advantage I have is I don't have to set anything up just plug it in.
@oliverborchers580
@oliverborchers580 2 жыл бұрын
great engineering! This is exactly the kind of ingenuity that humanity needs. Keep up the good work!
@Lee-San247
@Lee-San247 2 жыл бұрын
If you add some small caster wheels to the hinge points, it would be much smoother to deploy. Awesome build!
@themosttoast3733
@themosttoast3733 2 жыл бұрын
I'm thinking a track from back to front of car, and the panels slide over the car
@opadennis
@opadennis 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video! His grandfather would be so proud!
@daltonx6177
@daltonx6177 2 жыл бұрын
Impressive, for sure ! But adding that much weight to the car, plus the additional drag to the already get efficient design of the Model Y, we would need to know much this setup as diminished the range. Of course, if your objective is mostly to be able to camping off-the-grid, the it's just fine. Except that now, you've sacrificed all that cargo space for your outdoor gear... Ah wll, nothing's perfect ! 😁
@BreakingWildGaming
@BreakingWildGaming 2 жыл бұрын
add to that the increased aerodynamic drag that monster places on the car. You would get more range by simply getting rid of the solar system. 😂
@woodelfdragon8603
@woodelfdragon8603 2 жыл бұрын
what I would do is not carry it around and just use this solar at home to get extra range or take it with me when planing on not moving for awhile to get range back up idk but carry all that seems like a drag I do feel like solar will be the future of ev but it not there yet!
@cyndiharrington6289
@cyndiharrington6289 2 жыл бұрын
Gear can fit in passenger side
@tianyang5241
@tianyang5241 2 жыл бұрын
完美遮挡车牌
@dankamp2872
@dankamp2872 2 жыл бұрын
I only looked at the thumbnail, but was cleverly able to deduce the gist of the content. So the car pulls a string of PV panels along, which will charge the car as it drives! Perpetual motion in action - as long as it is sunny and no tunnels or an inordinate amount of overpasses are involved. Brilliant!
@TonyPham-Creations
@TonyPham-Creations 2 жыл бұрын
That EG4 is brand new!! Nice setup. 10:07 I think the server rack batteries have a built-in charge resistor.
@gridfreeordie
@gridfreeordie 2 жыл бұрын
That's what I thought too, but I believe only the newer ones with digital displays have that feature. My battery would fault when initially connected so I added the resistor.
@uhjyuff2095
@uhjyuff2095 2 жыл бұрын
@@gridfreeordie It does you just have to do some reset or something to activate it. Your setup is easier since you thought it out and figured out how to get it running smoothly!
@joshg1244
@joshg1244 2 жыл бұрын
I believe that breaker is split into two sections so you flip just the pre charge switch first the main switch
@AshtonClemens
@AshtonClemens Жыл бұрын
This is really cool! I always wondered though why I haven't seen anyone try to connect something like this to the DC side of the charger. (DC -> DC) instead of (DC to battery -> battery to inverter -> AC charger -> AC charger to DC battery charging system)
@ahmedkalali2570
@ahmedkalali2570 2 жыл бұрын
Good work, suggestion Are the solar panels in series long enough to use as covering the car from sun light insead of folding it in the back of car which reduce the parking area, and same time cool body of the car. You can change the design of the foldable panels to be opened from the back to the front of the car with additional foldable support stand in the middle solar panel series and infront of car. The other parallel solar panels can put on side. Tq
@themosttoast3733
@themosttoast3733 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, make it a canopy, and could be neat for tailgating!
@michaellim4165
@michaellim4165 2 жыл бұрын
For that to happen the panels needs to be light weight but yet still sturdy enough tow wuthstand high winds. Also, you would need two foldout legs in the middle panel one of each side to be the middle support on the roof of the car.
@djwashx
@djwashx 10 ай бұрын
Way to think outside the box EXCELLENT I would try to get something to have the panels go on a rack straight up and maybe on a slight tilt
@lesliefranklin1870
@lesliefranklin1870 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting project. Driving around, I would have some concerns. 1. The license plate is not visible. It would be simple to move it to the back. 2. The taillights can't be seen. I suppose those could be implemented like a trailer. 3. The Tesla Model Y has sensors and cameras all over its body. Does this interfere with those?
@kevinba7981
@kevinba7981 2 жыл бұрын
Yes it’s a sacrifice
@majorchungus
@majorchungus 2 жыл бұрын
He has taillights added. And the government can get f'd reguarding the license plate
@cgamiga
@cgamiga 2 жыл бұрын
I also worry that the aero drag from big flat panels, might cause enough energy losses to overcome any later generated power :( maybe some shield over them? Not sure how the air flows past them... also, there will be energy lost from cabin overheat A/C or even just fans running, to cool off that trunk. Better to just leave the trunk open.
@lesliefranklin1870
@lesliefranklin1870 2 жыл бұрын
@@cgamiga Leave the trunk open for cooling results in being able to see the license plate. Win-win! LOL!
@theyrealltaken3
@theyrealltaken3 2 жыл бұрын
Put it in a wind tunnel. Think you'll lose more than you gain with this. Tesla would've done it if it was that easy
@kswis
@kswis 2 жыл бұрын
EG4 makes awesome stuff. Very interesting Idea. I'm glad to hear your using the right fuses
@garysheppard4028
@garysheppard4028 2 жыл бұрын
How many days/weeks/months/years/centuries would that take to deliver a full charge? I think people underestimate how much power these cars consume.
@JD-fk4qq
@JD-fk4qq 2 жыл бұрын
This is perfect for trickle charging instead of wasting time and getting scorched, when the car is parked outside, in hot weather and the owner works an 8 hour shift, or has just visited a friend or family and there is no indoor parking. Normally , we hate to have a car, any car out in the hot sun but this actually delivers gains, in the long run. Only problem, what is the total cost and what is the extra weight of this conversion ? Then one can sit down and estimate the total experience. To sum up, this is the future!! Independent and
@TheDIYDen
@TheDIYDen 2 жыл бұрын
This solar setup has the potential to produce 6KW/h of power per day in summer time, after conversion there would be about 5 left at best, assuming he has a 100KW/h battery in the car it would take 20 sunny days to charge up to full.
@garysheppard4028
@garysheppard4028 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheDIYDen If someone doesn't nick it while it's unfurled in the carpark...
@TheDIYDen
@TheDIYDen 2 жыл бұрын
@@garysheppard4028 hahahah ! Probly ok for a campground, but yeah not ideal in general
@JeffHoldenWS-NC
@JeffHoldenWS-NC 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheDIYDen holy crap, 20 sunny days to charge the car? Was that a serious estimate?
@GEOsustainable
@GEOsustainable 10 ай бұрын
I love that you just went and did it.
@davidoneill2466
@davidoneill2466 2 жыл бұрын
The last 15,000 miles on my EV were powered by my solar cells. I call it….. “Personal Energy Independence…..”
@RLTtizME
@RLTtizME 2 жыл бұрын
Were those overnight trips?
@scottbaker9066
@scottbaker9066 Жыл бұрын
Very cool!!! If you drive slow (low drag) and park all day in the sun, you will have several miles of range 'free' from sunshine each day... So if you start with a golf cart you might be onto something like a solar car!
@jtr82369
@jtr82369 2 жыл бұрын
Seems like a possible concept prototype for the Cybertruck since it has the surface area needed. cool setup
@billboyd4051
@billboyd4051 2 жыл бұрын
A 200 kw battery at 600 watt charge rate, would take 330 hours of sun or 41 days of charging.
@cmthumboldt6896
@cmthumboldt6896 2 жыл бұрын
How fun is that! EG4 is the way, great job!
@edc1569
@edc1569 2 жыл бұрын
Wish Tesla would put a bi-directional power interface into their cars
@johnbeeck2540
@johnbeeck2540 2 жыл бұрын
It's coming... along with a whole house backup system...
@PedroRodriguesPaiva
@PedroRodriguesPaiva 2 жыл бұрын
@@johnbeeck2540 nope, vehicule to grid is not supported by current's M3&Y inverter that uses diodes instead of transistors.
@JohanDegraeveAanscharius
@JohanDegraeveAanscharius 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, you are one of the first! Example to follow and of course to refine it. Congrats from Belgium!!
@alexo3709
@alexo3709 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing work. I'm looking at something similar for long camping trips, the goal being that I can get enough solar to power camp mode and a few accessories (starlink, fridge, etc.) and stay out in the middle of nowhere indefinitely. Debating between a hitch like you have or some sort of unfolding setup from a roof rack - maybe doubling as a canopy. Would likely use a portable power station like the EcoFlow DELTA. I'm curious what your use case is, or is this more an experiment to see if it's possible?
@danielderkacs6180
@danielderkacs6180 2 жыл бұрын
ExoFlow would work, but you have to manually tie neutral to ground and make sure that ground is tied to your chassis. I've done this for energy independence desires.
@uhjyuff2095
@uhjyuff2095 2 жыл бұрын
You guys are crazy, do you know how much energy the Tesla uses just in standby mode. And also you have to factor in the solar generator is also in standby mode. If you want camping power just bring a gas generator or you have to bring a freaking large battery... solar panels will not keep up to satisfy even the standby consumption of all your electronics and the car at the same time! My small travel trailer uses 500 watts with just the fridge on so if I boon dock I 100 percent have to bring lots of Propane to run the fridge otherwise I need to run the generator 24/7 so the fridge can run on electricity. Do an energy audit of all your loads to figure out what you need to supply power too!
@chublez
@chublez 2 жыл бұрын
@@uhjyuff2095 500w ....that's not camping city Boi. I've a 2.2kwh battery that will run my fridge for 3-5 days(depending on ambient or if i set one zone to freezer) without solar when I go camping. If i put out a couple panels I'd never run out. As it is I pretty much always run out of food/end trip before battery dies. Truck has a decent inverter I can charge the lifepo4 in about 8 hours idles,or cruising if I need it or we're moving sites/going into civilization for groceries anyway.
@uhjyuff2095
@uhjyuff2095 2 жыл бұрын
@@chublez Right! It's called "Glamping" My RV is a 11000 pound 34 foot fifth wheel!
@alexo3709
@alexo3709 2 жыл бұрын
@@danielderkacs6180 how did you know where to drill for those wiring holes?
@holdon4992
@holdon4992 2 жыл бұрын
Fun project. Great if isolated but I’m sure you’ll come up with better versions as time goes on. Three main issues are weight, space and cost. LiFePo batteries are heavy.
@uaesaqer
@uaesaqer 2 жыл бұрын
What is the additional range the system add to you battery on sunny day??
@MrTeslaX
@MrTeslaX 2 жыл бұрын
Its 1.2kw system. Considering 8hrs of bright sun you get 9.6kw in total or around 35miles of range. Not worth the effort if u ask me!
@Treeserviceo
@Treeserviceo 2 жыл бұрын
I have to admit when I first saw the thumbnail I thought this was a joke and then as I was watching the video I realized it was serious. I have to say I'm somewhat amazed at where we've come with our futuristic cars, I thought it would be more like "The Jetsons" (a futuristic cartoon that was shown back in the 60s and '70s if you're wondering). I think this is a little bit much and I'll wait till electric vehicles are more refined.
@jakeliujakeliu
@jakeliujakeliu 2 жыл бұрын
I think you should just install this at home, won’t think you can extend your solar panel outside your home.
@kedarprabhudessai
@kedarprabhudessai 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome i think it will be very much usable if you make panels and inverter when folded fit inside the trunk. Then you take it out when needed and start the charging
@rogerfroud300
@rogerfroud300 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder how much the range is reduced by the aerodynamic losses this introduces? My guess is that it's a lot.
@Eratas1
@Eratas1 2 жыл бұрын
Same question, probably more than solar panels produce
@matthewgibbs6886
@matthewgibbs6886 2 жыл бұрын
shh its a work in progress and don't forget the weight. but its a start
@rodrigo_888
@rodrigo_888 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic! Innovative! Congratulations! Very practical, easy to carry and seems durable. For sure, if it is manufactured in large quantities, it will sell a lot. (contains irony) lol
@yougeo
@yougeo 2 жыл бұрын
It appears many of us are thinking similarly. So what does this get you? On a clear summer day how many miles range can you get?
@danielderkacs6180
@danielderkacs6180 2 жыл бұрын
I get about 30 miles per day right now.
@billboyd4051
@billboyd4051 2 жыл бұрын
@@danielderkacs6180 A 600 watt charge over 10 hours is 6 kw. Enough to run an E bike 30 miles. Your math doesn't quite work out.
@ben3989
@ben3989 2 жыл бұрын
@@billboyd4051 6000w/300 would be 20 miles in this car. 6kw probably can make you bike go 300+ miles
@billboyd4051
@billboyd4051 2 жыл бұрын
@@ben3989 Its only a 600 watt charge per hour, My E bike is 500 watt. Its barely enough to run it. It takes 10 hours to make 6kw. The Tesla charger is 48 amp at 233 volt or 11,184 watts, nearly 20 times the charge rate, continuously, not just when the sun shines.
@danielderkacs6180
@danielderkacs6180 2 жыл бұрын
@@billboyd4051 Averages to around 8kWhrs supplied to car x 3.75 miles/kWhr = 30 miles. I get around 1.1kW peak generation, 15% inverter/charger losses, 15hrs of sunlight right now with cosine losses of course.
@bernardcharlesworth9860
@bernardcharlesworth9860 2 жыл бұрын
Thankyou.got a electric van thinking might put some triple layer panels on the roof. Think I would use a Arduino or pi to control the surge resistor etc.
@juangoyeneche7304
@juangoyeneche7304 2 жыл бұрын
How long could it take to charge 100% of the car battery?
@Nitrofan_Kerm
@Nitrofan_Kerm 2 жыл бұрын
From 0 to 100% I think at least a week.
@danielderkacs6180
@danielderkacs6180 2 жыл бұрын
That's about right.
@JohnnyHughes1
@JohnnyHughes1 2 жыл бұрын
And that is the reason this is basically a novelty and not included by manufacturers. Sure, it is free and if you are parked somewhere it can augment your charge, but at 5 miles per hour of charge, I am not seeing this as effective. I mean, if you drive less than 40 miles and can park it for 8 hours, you can recover your charge. Not sure where you would be able to do that. Where I live, you can't block the sidewalk. I could not use it at home or work. If you totally ran out of charge, you could go 5 miles more after one hour of charging. Is that really worth the investment?
@juangoyeneche7304
@juangoyeneche7304 2 жыл бұрын
@@JohnnyHughes1 it's a proof of concept and it was improved already. I bet with some extra work out will improve and this can allow you to drive to remote camping areas where you can spend a couple days and have a good charger and when done with camping you can drive back. Maybe small trailer connected to car and 3 to 4 of this set up and at this rate you'll have 20 miles per hour.
@JohnnyHughes1
@JohnnyHughes1 2 жыл бұрын
I am certainly not saying adding more solar panels would not work.. They could. If you also had an RV and triple the input to the battery and max out the inverter, where you could charge at 20 or so amps, it could be a good. We are just not close to the total power needed without about 3x (at a minimum) the input power.
@jasondong9721
@jasondong9721 2 жыл бұрын
Great concept for the future when battery tech and solar panels improve
@marksilvestro450
@marksilvestro450 2 жыл бұрын
We will have moved on to hydrogen fuel cells by then...
2 жыл бұрын
I don't know what people are expecting from solar cells, really, but it sounds like they will be disappointed. :)
@pip5461
@pip5461 2 жыл бұрын
Surely the battery is unnecessary, you've got the car batteries which are sufficient... The wind drag caused by the solar panels won't be helping much. You've got more money than sense... :)
@gridfreeordie
@gridfreeordie 2 жыл бұрын
This new 48V EG4 inverter is a rare unit that can actually run off of solar input only; but almost all other off-grid inverters require a DC battery or AC input connected. The vehicle battery is ~400V so it cannot be used by the 48V inverter. Furthermore, with only solar connected you'll need to exactly match or oversupply the inverter in order to supply a continuous AC load...which means you'll either always throw away solar input power or frequently shut down the inverter when a cloud passes over or the sun angle changes.
@pip5461
@pip5461 2 жыл бұрын
@@gridfreeordie thanks for the information...!
@SuperVstech
@SuperVstech 2 жыл бұрын
I agree, the wind resistance will lower his range significantly… he would be better off keeping the panels flexible, and storing them in the car. Or building a roof rack system that keeps everything horizontal…
@danielderkacs6180
@danielderkacs6180 2 жыл бұрын
I've not recorded any appreciable difference in W/mi since installation on Teslafi.
@SuperVstech
@SuperVstech 2 жыл бұрын
@@danielderkacs6180 odd. Unless you never drive highway, I would expect a 20% drop in range…
@roundgarage
@roundgarage 2 жыл бұрын
Brilliant job sir. If you unraveled the pv panels the other way over the car roof and hood, it would not be a problem having someone drive over them, Thank you.
@PaulsGearReview
@PaulsGearReview 2 жыл бұрын
that'll get stolen real quick 🤣
@howardfox6660
@howardfox6660 2 жыл бұрын
I get it. Great idea,just drag the panels while you drive. How smart.
@PopsGG
@PopsGG 2 жыл бұрын
Loss in range due to weight and drag will do more harm than the charging does good. Unless you only drive the car 2 times a week and it is in the sun the rest of the time. Could be good for a camping trip though.
@ajuber876
@ajuber876 2 жыл бұрын
While not perfect... it's perfect!
@Davesivak
@Davesivak 2 жыл бұрын
Just doesn’t make sense
@jamiehalifax4954
@jamiehalifax4954 6 ай бұрын
No.. it saves dollars 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@lawnmowerdude
@lawnmowerdude 2 жыл бұрын
This is so cool. I would love to see this as an optional accessory for any electric car you could buy. Or maybe even a solar powered car cover.
@safeandeffectivelol
@safeandeffectivelol 11 ай бұрын
You get 5 miles per hour of charge
@jamesmarinelli2177
@jamesmarinelli2177 2 жыл бұрын
Im trying to do something similar with 4 pipes at each corner of car then cross pipes. On top of this scafolding will be large panels this way its a sort of pergola over the car all interlocking with locks so no one an easily steal the equipment. This way it acts as a shade over the car , it should cause interior of car to be much cooler and also protects paint cause all my cars after few years paint starts to fade which is expensive to repaint. Also I would be able to set this up at my work parking lot with equipment being out of way for every car passing by. MY Model Y will be sitting in parking lot all day under hot sun so might as well soak up energy! This setup of yours is awesome !
@belgarion0013
@belgarion0013 2 жыл бұрын
Impressive work and god video! Maby in the future, more flexible solarpanels that can fit in the trunk would be even greater.. Have a nice sunday!
@richardjohnston9899
@richardjohnston9899 2 жыл бұрын
Good job, I been trippin off how to create 5.9 kwh for a mobile situation. Good to see smaller versions being effective
@kpboix99
@kpboix99 2 жыл бұрын
Thats an awesome portable setup! Good to see that something like this can be done with a Tesla.
@lehsu
@lehsu 2 жыл бұрын
Consider some wheels under the panels. This would help folding and unfolding, in addition to not have the panels sitting on possible hot floor.
@rjlinnovations1516
@rjlinnovations1516 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent ideas portable charger. Thank you for sharing your video. Watching and and I’m fully supported from Canada 🇨🇦
@james10739
@james10739 2 жыл бұрын
They should make an option that would let you use solar directly I mean if i assume the charger is basically a switch mode power supply so it's just turning ac into DC so if you are around 140v, 150v it should work fine
@RakeshKumar-lb8cw
@RakeshKumar-lb8cw 2 жыл бұрын
flexible Solar pannels are good for this type less weight easy to carry
@nwavette
@nwavette 2 жыл бұрын
This is awesome! I would love to have something like this on one of the all electric Jeeps or a Rivian and have a much more resilient adventure vehicle.
@danielkim7841
@danielkim7841 2 жыл бұрын
1) you look crazy pulling out those solar powers, but u r a genius 2) the neighbors are staring at you and whispering behind your back, but u r a genius 3) no one has ever has deployed solar panels in the history of KZbin to charge their tesla, but again, u r a genius. It's a high price of having intelligence!
@chrismerten2101
@chrismerten2101 2 жыл бұрын
add two garage door casters for the center section so it folds out smoother, maybe 20 ounces added weight with huge convenance
@mordanistl9869
@mordanistl9869 2 жыл бұрын
A thought. Put it all on a trailer obviously smallest lightest then you can put all control equipment in there while being able too disconnect it all if going on a nite on the town , but conceptually awesome gives me many ideas
@sulu1men
@sulu1men 2 жыл бұрын
Lot of effort, appreciated, your not regular ev owner 👍
@johnwang5336
@johnwang5336 2 жыл бұрын
I must say it's very clever indeed. If you're gonna do it in your driveway, put them on the roof, if used on the road, that depends how long it takes.. it's kinda drag since super changing stations are everywhere and affordable, so..
@appudipu
@appudipu 2 жыл бұрын
Intelligent product.. superb..just fall in love with it .
@InteloPL
@InteloPL 2 жыл бұрын
It si well done, got to give you that. My issue is that the tesla is now basically the transportation device for it's own power source.
@louren1951
@louren1951 2 жыл бұрын
Nice job, I wish I was smart enough to build like that.
@suburbandreams842
@suburbandreams842 2 жыл бұрын
Great video, good design, and thanks for sharing this. I hope solar cells could be more efficient in the future.----2022 Model Y Performance owner.
@VGAplayer
@VGAplayer 2 жыл бұрын
the Tesla need this fix on the roof 😎👍 nice video thx
@slijkhuis
@slijkhuis 2 жыл бұрын
I love the ‘because I can’ attitude, however it would never be used efficiently. The extra weight, drag would be killing, the noise and heat will be annoying. You basically lose your trunk. Plus the charge speed is absolutely tiny. Lastly, you need a huge parking spot and hope to god that nobody likes to tramp on the PV panels for fun. Again, love the passion to do something cool, however extremely (that is an understatement) unefficient.
@lukeycherrett7372
@lukeycherrett7372 2 жыл бұрын
Have thought about small trailer. You could house everything inside freeing up your boot. And you don't have to always carry them with you. Only on long journeys. Loving your work keep it up. 👍
@Robby368
@Robby368 Жыл бұрын
I really like how it blocks 100% of the brake lights
@rodrigo_888
@rodrigo_888 2 жыл бұрын
I can't believe I watched it to the end.
@yggdrasil9039
@yggdrasil9039 2 жыл бұрын
This is awesome. Great job, I wonder if v3 or later might allow you to stow panels inside the car, pull out, rotate 90 degrees, and then unfold, on some kind of extendable rail.
@RedspawnSilver
@RedspawnSilver Жыл бұрын
Put some small rollers on the end of each link off center from each other and it’ll make it easier for you for the “roll out”.
@WiSeNhEiMeR-1369
@WiSeNhEiMeR-1369 Жыл бұрын
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@texasgreentea1
@texasgreentea1 2 жыл бұрын
Nice work! I'm building something similar for a DIY EV, only difference being I'm setting up the circuit so I'll be able to charge while on the road.
@Mike-.
@Mike-. 2 жыл бұрын
This is so cool but insane!...but awesome!
@JohnSnow-lb6xi
@JohnSnow-lb6xi 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing.... you should add some expandable legs on all 4 corners that raise the panels up and then you can back the car under it.
@justanother240
@justanother240 6 ай бұрын
Nice setup! I would be concerned about the longevity of flexible panels. They don't seem to last much longer than 1-2 years compared to their rigid counterparts that will easily last 5-15 years.
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