Tesla Model 3 - Exploded?!?

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Ingineerix

Ingineerix

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@ken830
@ken830 6 жыл бұрын
I have to say that your videos are some of the very, very, very few Tesla videos that are actually worth watching. Thank you for doing what you do and for sharing.
@etbadaboum
@etbadaboum 6 жыл бұрын
It's like Rich Rebuilds but done properly and professionally ahah.
@wgayton
@wgayton 6 жыл бұрын
how dare you!!! :)
@etbadaboum
@etbadaboum 6 жыл бұрын
Don't tell Rich, he can't take a joke! ahah :)
@edwardtse8631
@edwardtse8631 6 жыл бұрын
It is like Rich rebuild without the jokes and entertainment. boring.
@etbadaboum
@etbadaboum 6 жыл бұрын
At least with Ingineerix I better understand how the car works!
@yabucoaman
@yabucoaman 6 жыл бұрын
and with out the proper knifes
@GOVAUS1
@GOVAUS1 5 жыл бұрын
Every of your videos is better than pron. Just excellent.
@mitchellbarnow1709
@mitchellbarnow1709 6 жыл бұрын
This is incredible!!!
@PistonAvatarGuy
@PistonAvatarGuy 6 жыл бұрын
George Orwell's worst nightmare in vehicle form!
@nunyabizness2620
@nunyabizness2620 6 жыл бұрын
You get my vote for the #1 Model 3 video on the web IX - great work and thanks for sharing! Next best thing to a service manual.
@karenrobertsdottir4101
@karenrobertsdottir4101 6 жыл бұрын
Whoa! "Note the size of these cables - they're huge! They're way bigger than you find in S & X. That implies that 3 is capable of a higher rate supercharge than S & X, at present. They are very big." --- That got my attention!
@Ingineerix
@Ingineerix 6 жыл бұрын
The 3 sports 95mm2 cables (3/O AWG), whereas S/X currently use only 70mm2 (2/O AWG). The enabler of the 3's higher charge current capacity is likely due to the improvements brought by the 2170 cells.
@karenrobertsdottir4101
@karenrobertsdottir4101 6 жыл бұрын
So 84% more cross sectional area in the cables then. Nice! Hmm... lol, trying to look up maximum rated current for those cables, but most wire gauge/capacity charts don't go that high. ;) If it's linear scaling and the old ones were only suitable for 120kW then theoretically these would be suitable for 221kW. But that's a lot of assumptions.
@morrisg
@morrisg 6 жыл бұрын
No, I believe the 95mm2 spec is already an area measurement, so it is only 25/70 = 35.7% larger in cross section area. Also, we don't know the stranding specs (# of strands and each strand's AWG or metric area spec). Plus there's usually insulation temp spec which is used to derate max current. At any rate, as Ingineerix states supercharging capacity is probably set by the 2170 cells / cooling capacity of the main battery.
@karenrobertsdottir4101
@karenrobertsdottir4101 6 жыл бұрын
Oh, sorry, mm², I was reading that as mm - my mind didn't parse the lack of superscript :)
@Clark-Mills
@Clark-Mills 6 жыл бұрын
Is it possible that they've cut over from Cu to Al for weight/cost/availability reasons? That might explain the thickness difference?
@karenrobertsdottir4101
@karenrobertsdottir4101 6 жыл бұрын
This is the sort of thing that keeps me from doing more than simple maintenance on cars. I look at that laid out there and think, "There's no way that this would ever go back together again.... or at least not "back together the way it was" ...
@imho7250
@imho7250 6 жыл бұрын
Did you block the cellular signal so it can’t tweet Elon and ask for an extraction mission or the code to initiate self-destruction?
@aliabdallah102
@aliabdallah102 6 жыл бұрын
IMHO tbh I wouldn't be surprised if it didn't have something that'll brick the ECUs.
@imho7250
@imho7250 6 жыл бұрын
Ali Abdallah, yes, I think Tesla has been increasing security on its ECUs over the years and it’s why many have resorted to just making their own inverter driver for the Tesla drive units. I think jailbreaking Tesla will be a real thing once there are 1 million on the road.
@aliabdallah102
@aliabdallah102 6 жыл бұрын
IMHO oh yeah. Tesla IS the apple of cars. When they find a way to legally do it. They'll make it warranty voiding to put anything but the michelins illegal. And then remotely disable the car.
@imho7250
@imho7250 6 жыл бұрын
Ali Abdallah, Tesla is reportedly working on a track mode which seems almost like a rooted Tesla OS, and will let people change settings which void the warranty. Elon basically eluded to this during his interview with MKHB. I’d love to have a Tesla with full overclocking unlocked and access to everything with some easy to use utilities that let you test each setting for overheating. Really I wish someone would make a DIY EV where you can buy each part just like buying parts to build a computer, where the body and chassis would be like selecting your computer case, and then you pick the motherboard which supports plug and play drive units and battery modules. Then it has some OpenEV operating system which defaults to all the recommended settings for whatever you plugged in, and then let’s you tweak them up to safe limits (and beyond). Imagine the sort of business you can have if you can build a car and keep upgrading the components as you can afford them.
@darreno1450
@darreno1450 5 жыл бұрын
I'm getting one of these and after watching this video, it's quite clear why they cost what they do. Subscribed!
@maxg4958
@maxg4958 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for acknowledging a gimbal is required and coming; I appreciate it.
@andya9268
@andya9268 6 жыл бұрын
Can you make a video of fuse in model 3 ? How the fuse impacts the car while the airbag is deployed and how to replace them . Thanks
@FrankThorley
@FrankThorley 6 жыл бұрын
Two Questions: 1) What Frequency is used in M3 RFID Cards. 2) Fronk latch wire colors/functions. I really appreciate your M3 system and detailed component analysis & reports. Fantastic work.
@Ingineerix
@Ingineerix 6 жыл бұрын
13.56 MHz. It uses the NFC standard, you can read Tesla cards with a standard NFC reader. Explaining the detailed functions of the frunk latch system is a project in itself, sorry. That would require paid consultation.
@ronolsberg1468
@ronolsberg1468 4 жыл бұрын
You show the redundant power connections to the power steering rack in the video. Do you know if the power connections at the power steering rack are 12VDC, high voltage DC from the traction battery (they are red/black and not orange) or three-phase AC converted from two redundant upstream modules? If three-phase, that would require two each HV to three-phase AC inverters. I read somewhere that the power steering assist motor is three-phase AC and not 12VDC like most ICE vehicle use. Thanks for the great content and for any answers to my questions! Watched your video on the VC-Front module and you mentioned the two red wires on the right went to the PS unit. So it looks like it is indeed 12V DC. Maybe one line is feed directly from the DC-to-DC converter and the other directly from the 12V AGM battery. Not sure where the three-phase AC/inverters came from?? A possible way to verify redundant side, every time you drive the vehicle, would be to use the battery side when in reverse?
@jw796
@jw796 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you. I have not yet seen the first responders cut off location, access or functionality. I know its cuts main power(@ relays?) and it's near? right windshield and hood.
@Ingineerix
@Ingineerix 5 жыл бұрын
You can see the first responder loop in my earlier frunk video here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/mqmzdYduaZihhdk
@shjin
@shjin 5 жыл бұрын
Can you do video on HVAC and ducts systems for Model 3?
@SteveKelly
@SteveKelly 6 жыл бұрын
Great videos. It is super cool to see the technology in it's raw form!
@johnsanchez5751
@johnsanchez5751 4 жыл бұрын
Great walk-through video. Thank you for taking the time to film and share.
@ericjorgensen4826
@ericjorgensen4826 2 жыл бұрын
As a tech geek I find your videos to be most interesting, and I thank you for them. I just purchased my MX Plaid on June 30, and have a question about the antennae. I believe the FM antenna is in the rear hatch glass. Can you confirm that? From this video I see the GPS is in the front 3 camera housing, and as well you point out where the WiFi antenna is located. Is the WiFi and GPS for the Model S/X in the same location? Last, do you have any idea where the antenna is located for the XM Satellite radio?
@Ingineerix
@Ingineerix 2 жыл бұрын
Wifi is in the headliner, and XM is under the glass in the rear hatch. Both are very hard to access.
@ericjohnson2193
@ericjohnson2193 6 жыл бұрын
This is the most incredible Model 3 video I've seen to date!
@albert.h
@albert.h 6 жыл бұрын
Great stuff! I'd love to hear even more of your opinions on top of calling out and identify various components and systems.
@steinmar2
@steinmar2 5 жыл бұрын
We need you, post some content again please! (: Really great to watch it again after 1 year!
@fredhamilton1701
@fredhamilton1701 6 жыл бұрын
Great videos! How about one focusing on HVAC - air paths, vents, etc.? Cheers.
@mzed1014
@mzed1014 6 жыл бұрын
Fascinating to see one taken apart. It is amazing that the tiny drive unit throws the mass of this car forward like a rocket. Please try and go lighter on the acronyms. Thanks.
@taylormcclure7868
@taylormcclure7868 4 жыл бұрын
Can you tell me what type of coax is used for the side repeater cameras? I'm working on a special project.
@Ingineerix
@Ingineerix 4 жыл бұрын
I don't know, but the camera signal is encoded with data and power on the Coax, and it's using DisplayLink III.
@JohnSmith-rf1tx
@JohnSmith-rf1tx 6 жыл бұрын
Great stuff. Given the architecture, it looks like it will be very easy to build these cars as a Right Hand Drive (RHD) without having to source/build many mirrored parts. Potentially very good news for those in the UK or Australia/NZ eagerly waiting for a Model 3. Pretty much only things that need to be swapped are steering column and pedals with the glovebox (and I believe the metal already has the cutouts for them on the right). Maybe a RHD power steering rack? The key card reader needs to be swapped to the other side (trivial). And so does the charger port/door, etc. Anything else with the charging hardware that would need a special RHD-type part?
@joshualewis3337
@joshualewis3337 6 жыл бұрын
They won't swap the charge port (see model S & X). They'll need to swap the autopilot computer over, and maybe the brake booster. Doesn't look like they need to move the HVAC unit, unlike in most ICE cars. However it seems the windscreen glass is handed (asymmetric to get the wipers down low for aero).
@ClockworksOfGL
@ClockworksOfGL 6 жыл бұрын
John Smith - Munro, in their tear down, said the car is basically symmetrical. So RHD should be trivial. This is a brilliantly engineered vehicle. And there’s every indication that Tesla could make a healthy profit on it.
@yellowshuttle
@yellowshuttle 6 жыл бұрын
This is fantastic, and what Tesla should have done themselves. Your depth of knowledge is quite impressive. Thanks a lot!
@Top12Boardsport
@Top12Boardsport 3 жыл бұрын
Great job. Looked at this several times and still interesting.
@NotizLp3
@NotizLp3 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Alot man I have been watching all your model S and 3 videos I just applied for a job a Tesla and trying to get some great information on everything you have laid out in these videos I have learned alot because of you, my only request is can you do a model Y as well thanks again keep up the good work 🙏🏾👍🏾💪🏾
@markcmann
@markcmann 6 жыл бұрын
Can you get a close up picture (or video) of the HVAC system black "Superbottle" as it's supposed to have a logo of a bottle wearing a cape. It would be cool to actually see what it looks like. Great video of all the M3 components. Thanks for sharing!
@Ingineerix
@Ingineerix 6 жыл бұрын
I'm not aware of any black bottles on the HVAC loop. There is however a "Batman" and "Robin" custom ASIC in the BMS that has a logo like that: postimg.cc/image/trsijw8jb/
@chibichrist89
@chibichrist89 6 жыл бұрын
WOW, shooting all this with a phone! btw, another thank you from a nerd geeking out. you're a genius! I am surprised there's only 46k views?!?
@Ingineerix
@Ingineerix 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@georgec9710
@georgec9710 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Phil, you have the best videos on Tesla tech, great content, as somebody commented - "only Tesla videos worth watching" , maybe you ca do a video where you talk about super-capacitors and how they might change the Tesla battery pack, you might even do a test with a big pack of super-capacitors in parallel with the tesla battery pack and see if this influences the driving. Too bad Tesla tech is not very hacker friendly.
@chuinnim24
@chuinnim24 6 жыл бұрын
Amazing video Ingineerix! Thank you so much! I've been wondering about the cabin-facing camera. Are you able to get a screenshot of its view? I'm curious about its resolution and field of view. I guess I wonder because, although Elon has apparently stated he's not into using camera to detect whether the driver is being attentive, I'd like to know if that camera could be set to that purpose with a mere software update if Elon so desired. Also, does the developer mode of your unit contain any of the beta functionality Elon tweeted pictures of in June, namely, the features such as: "Follow Nav", "Traffic Stops", etc?
@rrrggg4334
@rrrggg4334 6 жыл бұрын
9:00 I heard those cables are aluminium (maybe copper clad like some cheaper audio cables?) not copper like in S and X - that's why they are thicker. (And cheaper of course).
@danielstockwell3395
@danielstockwell3395 6 жыл бұрын
i think Aluminium is also lighter for the same current than copper, so weight saving as well.
@im4udevco
@im4udevco 6 жыл бұрын
Excellent sleuthing and great job in piecing back everything together. Have you ever thought about doing a manual for the Model 3? I'll definitely be your 1st customer. A lot of details I could learn about my Model 3. Thanks
@Rick9482
@Rick9482 3 жыл бұрын
Really well done video that I enjoyed watching so I subscribed!
@docpaul
@docpaul 6 жыл бұрын
Great videos, I really appreciate your knowledge and explanations. Makes me want a 3 even more, but it'll be a while before I can get one in NZ.
@phillq
@phillq 6 жыл бұрын
I calculated that the NZ USD35k model would convert to just under NZD58,000 if available today based off current S/X USD/NZD price conversions. We shall see when they are sold in NZ nearer to December 2019.
@heathmatthew1577
@heathmatthew1577 3 жыл бұрын
Hello. Do you happen to know where the pins are on the board for the pedestrian warning speaker? I have gotten tesla to turn on the features on my car, but I'm looking to add the missing harness. I suspect it is on the FSD board with th rest of the front audio outputs, but if your harness has it, this would be awesome to have confirmed. Thanks!
@ai4px
@ai4px 5 жыл бұрын
If you’ve still got this setup on the floor, can you point to a best place to drill a hole in the center console front to put an extra cigarette lighter plug? So it’ll clear the ductwork stack.
@Ingineerix
@Ingineerix 5 жыл бұрын
You will need to take the console apart for this, so that's my best advice. It's not that hard to remove and then you'll have full access.
@BillHohensee
@BillHohensee 4 жыл бұрын
Absolutely fascinating! Incredibly impressed!
@christianchisena6615
@christianchisena6615 3 жыл бұрын
Hi, I want to get the positive 12v, and bring a cable in the trunk to power up an AC inverter (2000w). I tried it connecting directly in the front, getting the +12V from the battery connector where a 35mm2 positive cable arrives from the main battery in the back. I do not want to put a cable from the front to the back and I was wondering if I can connect a cable (35mm2) directly close to the battery as in the video is visible. What is the best point to get the +12v (with very high current) to get back in the trunk? Many thanks
@sylvaing1
@sylvaing1 3 жыл бұрын
High, when you say the WiFi antenna is located on the beam between the B pillars, do you mean the beam that split the front/back roof glass?
@kiettyyyy
@kiettyyyy 6 жыл бұрын
Glad to see that you're still hacking cars, Phil! Nice work!
@kwansujemim4482
@kwansujemim4482 4 жыл бұрын
Nice to meet you. I have a question The rear glass heating wire 12V power does not come on. What should I repair? There is no abnormality
@mp3mike237
@mp3mike237 6 жыл бұрын
Aren't the charge port cables larger because they are aluminum instead of copper like the S&X?
@WICKED9994
@WICKED9994 6 жыл бұрын
good question
@Ingineerix
@Ingineerix 6 жыл бұрын
This is definitely a possibility, Unfortunately I can't answer this question for sure without cutting into this cable. Let me do some more research.
@karenrobertsdottir4101
@karenrobertsdottir4101 6 жыл бұрын
If you don't want to cut them, and can disconnect them fully, you can measure their specific gravity with a water test. That'd give you the average of the cables/connectors/insulation combined, but there would be big differences between alumium and copper. I do this for minerals: www DOTT johnbetts-fineminerals.com SLASH jhbnyc SLASH articles SLASH specific_gravity.htm You'd just have to scale it up.
@David-mg8fd
@David-mg8fd 6 жыл бұрын
Or you could just measure the resistance...
@dfortune6113
@dfortune6113 6 жыл бұрын
Great video Google search :If aluminum is used in an application where copper was previously used, it is typically sufficient to use an aluminum conductor two AWG sizes larger than that of copper
@morrisg
@morrisg 6 жыл бұрын
I hesitate to request this as I wish to avoid an internet flame war, but.... could you do a video on the audio system? Main amplifier and pics / locations of the various speakers? Thanks (again) for the very interesting videos of the Model 3 internals!
@ronolsberg1468
@ronolsberg1468 6 жыл бұрын
I am trying to find out where the connector(s) are that supply power to the rear seat seatback heaters. The rear seat bottom heater connector is under the seat bottom on the passenger side. Thanks for the great videos!!!!! Regards, Ron
@lawrencebrillon6176
@lawrencebrillon6176 3 жыл бұрын
Did you find where the cellular LTE antennas and wire paths are in the the car? I'm getting a lot of LTE no signal problems after I had some repairs done.
@kredal
@kredal 6 жыл бұрын
The manual says there are 3 NFC readers... the B pillar and center console I know about, but it says there is one in the fascia. Where, and what does it do? Thanks for the amazing teardown videos!
@DuncanAitken
@DuncanAitken 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the amazing video! The internals all laid out like that reminds me of anatomy diagrams of a nervous system.
@markb159
@markb159 4 жыл бұрын
Hey @Ingineerix - I was thinking of buying a used HVAC module - seem to be a few on eBay. Do you know what the wiring it for them/required supply? Looks simple - supply voltage (for I guess the heater) and 4-5 control pins of some kind. Thanks
@chrismd00
@chrismd00 6 жыл бұрын
Amazing. First impression on the video of looking at either a Zombie or Android face alive and blinking, then seeing the body had been exploded! Very eerie. You’ve done amazing working essentially laying out the nervous system in a functional way with no body! So much more complicated than an electric motor and wheels. Really like reverse engineering military projects or alien technology. Thanks for the tour, and don’t worry about a gimbal.
@AdamBantonRides
@AdamBantonRides 6 жыл бұрын
This is amazing. Thank you for your time on sharing this.
@jonnupe1645
@jonnupe1645 4 жыл бұрын
How feasible would it be custom build an inverter to drive an original model 3 motor with the battery pack? Is that all that would need to be addressed in order to bypass Tesla's stock systems and security, question marks
@dozer5069
@dozer5069 5 жыл бұрын
wow.. how do you get to that menu ??
@razz1946
@razz1946 4 жыл бұрын
Do you think this motor and the electronics could be used in an light sport aircraft, any idea how much it all might weigh I realy appreciate the work you put in to enlighten us all Thanks Ray
@michie9933
@michie9933 6 жыл бұрын
Is there no thermal isolation at the heating/cooling system? Should be inefficient when you turn on the heating during winter period
@Ingineerix
@Ingineerix 6 жыл бұрын
The cabin is exclusively heated by a PTC electric resistance heater, it is 100% isolated from the gycol cooling loop. Only the A/C system is shared, for cooling only.
@pierrechampoux7566
@pierrechampoux7566 6 жыл бұрын
I was thinking that the battery is heated using this system so if heat is lost by not isolating the plastic tube, it becomes very hard to keep the battery warm enough while driving and being stationary in cold weather. Same for the battery underside.
@tomekstanek
@tomekstanek 6 жыл бұрын
great video!! that high power charging cables are so thick, because they are made from aluminium, not copper.
@garystinten9339
@garystinten9339 6 жыл бұрын
Could you, since you're there with everything out of the car.. Make a downloadable PDF of all the wiring harness..
@jasons7044
@jasons7044 4 жыл бұрын
I got , if you still need...free
@jeffnoxon
@jeffnoxon 6 жыл бұрын
Amazing. Can’t wait to see this drivetrain in another body.
@AZOffRoadster
@AZOffRoadster 6 жыл бұрын
A dual motor setup would make a killer mountain crawler or dune buggy.
@vico5980
@vico5980 6 жыл бұрын
That huge charge cable, leading to the charge port, could well be an aluminum cable and needs that larger dimension to have the same cable resistance as the copper S/X cable. Just a guess. But it could be both, an aluminum charge cable and a design that will support higher charge rates in the future.
@Ingineerix
@Ingineerix 6 жыл бұрын
Yes, this has already been determined.
@Naked-clean
@Naked-clean 6 жыл бұрын
Have you made a video or comments as to: 1) Where the EDR connector is located? 2) What is the type of connector used to access data? I am in the process of preparing to download crash data in order to refute the other driver's claim.
@Ingineerix
@Ingineerix 5 жыл бұрын
I'm not aware of a dedicated EDR connector. The RCM is made by Bosch and has an internal EEPROM for storing the EDR, so I'm sure there is a way to connect directly to the RCM for retrieval.
@MYNautiGirl
@MYNautiGirl 4 жыл бұрын
Does anyone know which one of the pigtail clips on the VC_left module runs to the drivers door? I'm trying to locate the map pocket light wire. Should be a smaller wire, maybe 18 gauge and red. I just need to know what harness to look at.
@JohnSiler
@JohnSiler 6 жыл бұрын
Would it be possible to add a second RFID reader in the passenger pillar? The panel looked like it was a mirror image (perhaps for RHD cars?) Either way, if my wife beats me to the car and can't unlock it, she won't be happy!
@Ingineerix
@Ingineerix 6 жыл бұрын
No, not easy. Why not just add her phone?
@scottfranco1962
@scottfranco1962 6 жыл бұрын
So is there going to be one of those third party service/teardown books that you see for other cars? I'd be interested.
@stanrock01
@stanrock01 6 жыл бұрын
Great Video! Really interesting. This car is very futuristic.
@BlazerRox
@BlazerRox 6 жыл бұрын
Can you indicate how Developer Mode is accessed? EDIT: Nevermind, I see that info will not be shared :)
@ricardol1913
@ricardol1913 5 жыл бұрын
Great video. Can you tell me where the Homelink module is? Tesla is now selling the option to standard range model 3 owners. The option requires the installation of a module and costs $300. I've seen modules on Ebay for about half. Thank you.
@Ingineerix
@Ingineerix 5 жыл бұрын
On all Teslas the homelink module is located behind the bumper cover in front. However you can't just connect a used module, as the car will not recognize it without programming.
@ricardol1913
@ricardol1913 5 жыл бұрын
@@Ingineerix Thank you. I thought the system would ping devices connected and auto configure.
@Ingineerix
@Ingineerix 5 жыл бұрын
@@ricardol1913 No, the configuration is held by the car's gateway and will not enable the feature until this configuration is updated.
@ricardol1913
@ricardol1913 5 жыл бұрын
@@Ingineerix Thank you very much. Great videos. Please keep them coming.
@bendixon2898
@bendixon2898 6 жыл бұрын
The cables are large as they are aluminum and SX are copper.
@ShaunRF
@ShaunRF 6 жыл бұрын
I could be wrong, but I believe he has already stated this is not the case.
@Ingineerix
@Ingineerix 5 жыл бұрын
@@ShaunRF No, they are indeed AL
@jamess3417
@jamess3417 5 жыл бұрын
@@Ingineerix what brand was the steering rack and AC compressor?
@salmonsalaris
@salmonsalaris 4 жыл бұрын
How is the connection to the doors routed? Is there no ECUs in the side doors? Are door latches, window motors, mirrors etc connected via hardwires to the VCL and the VCR?
@Ingineerix
@Ingineerix 4 жыл бұрын
Correct, that's why VCL/VCR is close to the doors as possible.
@andytomm1
@andytomm1 6 жыл бұрын
If all of this and the bodywork goes into a standard Model 3, $ 35 K for it seem´s to me quite a bargain!!!. Sincere congratulations for your effort, in demystifing this latest car technology.
@Ingineerix
@Ingineerix 6 жыл бұрын
I think once Tesla gets the production lines all debugged and running smoothly they will be able to make a profit, even on $35K base models.
@thelondonbroiler
@thelondonbroiler 6 жыл бұрын
Excellent work. All that's left to do now is to acquire a Mitsubishi I-MIEV and change out components ;)
@tedbaxter5234
@tedbaxter5234 5 жыл бұрын
What a wonderful tour! Thank you!
@JR-of5hp
@JR-of5hp 6 жыл бұрын
You know your stuff sir. Excellent job.
@thomasg6322
@thomasg6322 6 жыл бұрын
Very nice, what protocol is used between the ECU and the motor inverter? Is it CAN bus, if so could a CAN repeater be used to adjust the messages? for instance, adjust throttle up by 10% for whatever the input? This would be warranty voiding and track only mode. Basically a man in the middle hack.
@morrisg
@morrisg 6 жыл бұрын
ECU and motor inverter are on the same board. See the inverter board video. I assume the CAN messages to the inverter board are only simple things like go pedal position and Drive or Reverse.
@Ingineerix
@Ingineerix 6 жыл бұрын
AutoxMx5 is correct, and on the RWD car there is no CAN signalling involved, the go pedal is wired right into the inverter. No performance hacking without a complete inverter software re-write, and I doubt you can do better than Tesla without buckets of blown inverters.
@Top12Boardsport
@Top12Boardsport 6 жыл бұрын
So impressed. Great job. Assembly and disassembly would be nice also.
@johnp.weiksnar6861
@johnp.weiksnar6861 6 жыл бұрын
Whoa, at 6:11 you can see the passenger side B-pillar guts is just missing the NFC antenna and connector (clearly for eventual RHD exports). I wonder if the domestic version could be upgraded to allow card access on the passenger side . . . likely never that simple. Thoughts?
@Ingineerix
@Ingineerix 6 жыл бұрын
I would imagine on RHD, they just swap the modules. I'm not sure why you would want NFC on the passenger side. If you don't want to use your phone, Tesla is coming out with a fob accessory soon. (Will not need to be held to the B-pillar.)
@pierrechampoux7566
@pierrechampoux7566 6 жыл бұрын
For Track action, can you suggest a way to disengage traction and stability control and keeping ABS?
@Ingineerix
@Ingineerix 5 жыл бұрын
There is an internal mode for testing, but not available to normal end-users. It would require CAN injection and will likely void your warranty. Best bet if you are that serious about tracking a Model 3 is to buy a P3D and Tesla gives you the track mode setting right on the UI.
@janwincote7260
@janwincote7260 5 жыл бұрын
Please add the videos as you build the van step by step I wanna see 👍
@CharlesBurnsPrime
@CharlesBurnsPrime 6 жыл бұрын
I am interested in details about the speakers and sub-woofer if you are so inclined. Driver material, manufacturer, etc.
@nayudusrini
@nayudusrini 6 жыл бұрын
Ingineerix, Thank you for wonderful video. Infact, not just this video, every video on your channel is really to the point and explained very clearly! This is THE best channel to know/learn about Tesla Model 3 inner details. I do have a question, I was wondering if you can share what kind of speakers are there on the dash!?. It seems there are 3 speakers near the windshield for ambiance effect.
@Ingineerix
@Ingineerix 6 жыл бұрын
3 midrange and 1 tweeter.
@nayudusrini
@nayudusrini 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for prompt reply. I would assume middle position has midrange and a tweeter.
@koeniglicher
@koeniglicher 6 жыл бұрын
Amazing stuff! But what about speakers, tire pressure sensors, head lights and tail lights, airbags, seat heaters, door electronics/window lifters? And how do you test all this stuff, when it is not in the car? I mean: all your sensors (wheel speed, tire pressure, brakeline pressures, acceleration, GPS, coolant temperatures, cameras, radar, ultrasonic sensors, ...) do not send values/data that match anything, that is expected by the matching electronic control unit. The layout may help you in tracing soingles.
@Ingineerix
@Ingineerix 6 жыл бұрын
I have another car that drives I can test things like this on.
@Spacefish007
@Spacefish007 5 жыл бұрын
How do you get access to the linux on the ICE? Do they have a serial console exposed ?! :D my new car (not a tesla) is arriving next month, it runs linux (automotive grade linux) on the center console as well, and i want to have root access to display some more information :) I guess they use the CPUs security features to only load a signed bootloader and the bootloader checks the signature on the image + afterwards the kernel uses dm-verity to check for modified flash blocks.. So modifying the image on the emmc is probably not possible without breaking the chain of trust..
@Ingineerix
@Ingineerix 5 жыл бұрын
Bingo. Your assumption is 100% correct.
@jonathanterranova448
@jonathanterranova448 3 жыл бұрын
? Are there any settings that would allow Tesla to turn-on automatically (plugged-in or not) and warm battery pack.... say if temperatures got below said temp. or -10 degrees c/f k 🤔😐
@Ingineerix
@Ingineerix 3 жыл бұрын
Tesla doesn't turn on pack heating, but when you go to charge the pack, it uses power from the grid to heat the pack above 0C before charging. The only other time pack heating is routinely used is when navigating to a supercharger, the pack will use some energy to preheat itself to allow faster charging.
@500846
@500846 6 жыл бұрын
Just a quick question about the screen mount, how hard would it be to put in a spacer to angle the screen towards the driver? is it just a few bolts or is the wiring interconnected with the mount? Could you maybe shoot a quick video of it?
@Ingineerix
@Ingineerix 6 жыл бұрын
It could be done, no electrical issues, but it would require a custom mechanical solution. Sorry, I don't have time to shoot a video of it.
@andrewmason2722
@andrewmason2722 6 жыл бұрын
Silicon Carbide is being mainly deployed to MOSFETs at 650V and 1200V. SiC IGBTs aren't really a thing.
@stevebakker6884
@stevebakker6884 6 жыл бұрын
Great work! Finally a teardown that names names. Interesting that the inverter is running MOSFETs. Given that Elon Musk used the term Silicon carbide inverter, it would seem that these are silicon carbide based MOSFETs. In an article that I posted speculating on this topic, someone apparently-in-the-know asserted in the comments it was likely SC MOSFETs. Now we know. Now looking forward to seeing your teardown of the motor (stripped to core teardown) to see if it is a "vanilla" IPM reluctance machine, or if there is some Tesla magic in there... such as permanent magnets embedded in the stator. Thank you for the videos!
@danielstockwell3395
@danielstockwell3395 6 жыл бұрын
is it not the Performance model that has the higher spec Inverter? The standard and AWD has one optimised for cost etc
@stevebakker6884
@stevebakker6884 6 жыл бұрын
According to what Musk said, it is the same inverter for all cars. Tesla just culls the inverters that test for "highest sigma output" and installs that subset to the P cars.
@ClockworksOfGL
@ClockworksOfGL 6 жыл бұрын
Steve bakker - IIRC, there are PMs embedded in the stator. He does a demonstration in another video that shows heavy cogging when the rotor is turned by hand. My big question is the composition of the magnets. I read a research paper awhile back that stated one of the theoretical advantages of this motor design was the PMs did NOT need to be particularly high performance. Rare earths wouldn’t be necessary. So I think there’s no rare earth magnets in the motor of the model 3.
@stevebakker6884
@stevebakker6884 6 жыл бұрын
Hi Bryan. The cogging he demonstrated may well have been from the PMs in the ROTOR. I've seen a motor taken a part and the M3 motor is at least in part an IPM (Internal Permanent Magnet) motor. And they are likely rare earths, because someone also published an agreement between Tesla and a Chinese supplier for rare earths. If there are also PMs in the STATOR then Tesla would be following some more recent research that may set Tesla's IPM motor in the 3 apart from the many other automakers also using IPM motors. If you read the piece I posted on the topic it will refer to a companion piece, and together all the info and links I am referring to are there. Cheers. cleantechnica.com/2018/05/28/more-tesla-model-3-powertrain-fun-from-carburetors-to-carborundum-youve-come-a-long-way-baby/
6 жыл бұрын
@Ingineerix: what's the ratio of in-house developed components/external components compared to other cars you know?
@Ingineerix
@Ingineerix 6 жыл бұрын
Way more in-house components than previous Tesla vehicles, and also compared to mainstream makes, such as Honda, Toyota, etc.
@_________Eh.Sun______2020
@_________Eh.Sun______2020 5 жыл бұрын
im wondering if there is a way to power the motors directLy with an small power generator as you charge the battery whiLe driving ?
@Ingineerix
@Ingineerix 5 жыл бұрын
Yes! I was hired to consult and do integration engineering on this demonstration project for just such a thing: www.thedrive.com/news/31732/austrian-engineers-transplant-gasoline-engine-into-tesla-model-3-to-create-full-hybrid
@nick0780
@nick0780 7 ай бұрын
Wow! Thanks for doing this.
@S3XYcars
@S3XYcars 4 жыл бұрын
i want to fix a model 3 which are very injured...have you got a ling for spare parts please (i'm in France)
@Ingineerix
@Ingineerix 4 жыл бұрын
We sell parts on Ebay
@WANDERER0070
@WANDERER0070 6 жыл бұрын
Very interesting,,thnx for showing all these details, Any idea how much $$ the battery alone cost?in case one needed to replace it..
@realvanman1
@realvanman1 3 жыл бұрын
I'm seeing the makings of one hell of a go cart here... ;)
@fredhamilton1701
@fredhamilton1701 6 жыл бұрын
Also, doesn't KZbin have a video stabilization option? Not as good as a gimble but you could run it on all your existing videos.
@Ingineerix
@Ingineerix 6 жыл бұрын
It doesn't help with fast pans. Only higher frequency vibrations, and it doesn't work that well.
@yoseppijoe
@yoseppijoe 6 жыл бұрын
This is so beyond amazing, an excellent job, nice idea using the honda radiator. Such a cool setup to have. Just wow. Maybe I missed it, but do you have the air conditioner hooked up? What a beautifully engineered vehicle. The future of cars looks amazing.
@Ingineerix
@Ingineerix 6 жыл бұрын
I did have it hooked up, but to get the HVAC box out, I had to recover the refrigerant. (Amazingly it survived the crash!)
@sullivan1337
@sullivan1337 5 жыл бұрын
First off, love the breakdown! Awesome work. Quick question, looking to add heating elements to the steering wheel. The purple connector under the steering wheel airbag, only has 3 wires, but looks to have 6+ pins on the female side. Are those terminated through the steering control module that you know of?
@Ingineerix
@Ingineerix 5 жыл бұрын
Sorry, no idea on that Sean!
@wtlarsen1
@wtlarsen1 6 жыл бұрын
Do you know how the parking brake works? What physically happens when you put the car in P? and what is the additional small clunking noise if you then hold down the P button to get the parking brake indicator to appear?
@Ingineerix
@Ingineerix 6 жыл бұрын
There are electric motors on each of the rear brake calipers that can mechanically apply the rear brakes when you engage P. If it's already applied, the second push-hold just tries to tighten it, but nothing will happen except a small noise.
@ram64man
@ram64man 6 жыл бұрын
That’s gonna be one heck of a sand box cart when you put it together
@rogermoiny2827
@rogermoiny2827 6 жыл бұрын
Very nice video, are there 4 speakers at the most rearward part of the dash that would touch the windshield?
@Ingineerix
@Ingineerix 6 жыл бұрын
3 full-range speakers on the dash and 1 tweeter in the middle.
@tombodera3338
@tombodera3338 6 жыл бұрын
Awesome video. Great job. Keep up the great tech videos for model 3. shake cam was fine. thanks.
@benthecaptain7419
@benthecaptain7419 6 жыл бұрын
Okay so pardon me for not reading all 280 comments. For a P3D+ what do you think it would take to improve cooling to maintain max power all day at the track? I imagine something in the frunk that adds coolant and more radiators but maybe due to the low temperatures of the battery packs vs ICE vehicles a bigger condenser or 2nd condenser is more realistic.
@Ingineerix
@Ingineerix 6 жыл бұрын
Research would be needed. It's not a trivial problem.
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