Tesla Powerwall 3 Breakthrough: Unbeatable Price Smashes Enphase, SolarEdge & More!

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@stephenbrickwood1602 7 ай бұрын

Love your work, you are on the right track, My comment from another video: 1 MILLION people use 1gW electricity generation which needs 40,000 klm transmission = AUD$40 billion per gW Fossil fuels = 5 time more electricity = AUD$200 billion Hello 👋 hello can anyone do maths ? When EVs are universal, the amount of daily electricity storage will be huge and available daily. Most vehicles are parked 23hrs every day and drive building to building. 50m2 on 230m2 roof is enough PV electricity daily for most of the year. NO NEW GRID CONSTRUCTION COSTS $2billion generation needs $40billion grid. AND EVs, electric vehicles. Hello 👋 hello anyone do maths. I think battery technologies are evolving rapidly for the good. All centralised electricity generation has a grid problem.

@ABC-wz2db 7 ай бұрын

The total maximum kW output of the enphase system will be 18.345kW! during the day. And output will go up with the addition of any single piece of equipment. With one 11.5kW inverter the tesla system is capped…but probably stackable.

@missingpiece2071 7 ай бұрын

so does this mean you'll be able to charge your tesla car or ev with the DC at a level 3 charge or say 100 kW. I don't understand why Tesla doesn't integrate the charger into the power wall.

@edbouhl3100 4 ай бұрын

The systems may not pay for themselves. But viewed as a power backup system, the price suddenly appears more attractive.

@thesevenscars 6 ай бұрын

Bro! What happened to your livestream of the PW3 training? Did Tesla make you take it down?

@zodiacfml 6 ай бұрын

same. i was looking for it

@URackADisciprine 7 ай бұрын

Unbeatable price????? Not sure how much you are charging for the solar panels in this comparison, but I can go to Signature Solar and buy a 12kW hybrid inverter and 28.6kWh worth of batteries for $12,700 roughly. Far better deal than the PW3 which is also not modulr and requires the purchase of another inverter/battery combo when all you might want is another battery.

@leafnutz2341 6 ай бұрын

Their prices include panels and installation

@URackADisciprine 6 ай бұрын

@@leafnutz2341 I am speaking apples to apples (component for component for the most part in AC or DC coupled systems). Not apples to oranges as you are trying to make excuses and including labor costs. And labor does not differ all that greatly based of brands and types of systems installed. DC coupled is cheaper component wise in general but that has no bearing on my initial comment regardless.

@leafnutz2341 6 ай бұрын

@@URackADisciprine "labor does not differ all that greatly"???? Are you kidding with that statement? Labor prices vary widely across the country and even locally based on all sorts of variables. Since you wanna make an apples to apples comparison. The EG4 18k plus a PowerPro battery is $9000 while the Powerwall 3 is $8400. The EG4 system would still require a gutter and much more labor to install.

@URackADisciprine 6 ай бұрын

@@leafnutz2341 Again, you with your apples and oranges comparisons. Compare one area, not a region and CERTAINLY the whole country. And while labor can depend on a number of variables, most installers have it down to a science at this point unless you get a completely worthless installer. The "ACTUAL" costs usually only vary greatly for an out of the box installation. Correction on my part...I see the price listed on thier site, you're right about the $8400 listing. The PW3 still would be a terrible deal in terms of adding more than one battery. Lets take the $8400 for a new PW3. For every battery you want to add after the first, you have to pay slightly less than $8400. For every PowerPro battery you want to add after the first, you only have to pay $3800. And you only have to add another inverter when you want to. An inverter by the way with a 200A pass-thru. This makes the Signature solar setup far more financially sound. Not to mention all the upgrades you get with the 18Kpv vs the built in inverter on the PW3. From what I have seen, the PW3 is not a true AIO inverter setup like the 18Kpv with all of its integrated hardware. And yet again you are wrong, the 18Kpv requires very little additional labor to install even with a wiring trough...woopty. You might want to do some actual research. Good luck to you, ignorance must be bliss. But I dont have anymore time to waste on your ignorance. Adios.

@leafnutz2341 6 ай бұрын

@@URackADisciprine I got the $8400 price OFF THE ACTUAL TESLA WEBSITE not some random google search. Btw, you can also get $500 off with a refferal code. Regardless of where you get a unit installed, the Tesla system would be cheaper. BTW, I actually own EG4 products and I'm a actual Sig Solar customer. Sounds like you should STFU and put your money where your apples and oranges mouth is and actually buy a system.

@stephenbrickwood1602 7 ай бұрын

Offgrid becomes possible. Customers abandoning the grid in the suburbs means the existing grid does not have to be expanded. Customers abandoning the grid means the remaining customers have to carry the fixed costs of grid transmission lines and poles and wires and transformers and....generation plant and ... Grid electricity prices will explode. Abandoned assets. Stranded assets. Come to mind.

@ToddDesiato 7 ай бұрын

11.5kW is not enough for whole-home backup in many cases. I've seen my home have peak power in excess of 26kW.

@dalerolph 7 ай бұрын

I think Tesla estimates around 80-90% of homeowners will be met with 11.5kW during a power outage

@gokart6324 7 ай бұрын

@@dalerolphthen how does Elon’s claim of return of investment 5 years? Sorry the math doesn’t add up.

@NIAtoolkit 7 ай бұрын

If 11.5kW isn’t enough you can add a second, third, or fourth Powerwall. Two would be ideal for my situation

@JupiterMoJo 6 ай бұрын

Will Tesla be releasing expansion batteries for PW3 to reduce cost and not bundle in inverters for each PW3? Any actual benefits of having a stack of 3 PW3s with 3 inverters?

@dalerolph 5 ай бұрын

Yes, we should see the DC expansion batteries by the end of the year. I’m estimating a cost around the $4000 mark per unit before installation and permits.

@danparks9308 7 ай бұрын

So what is the price of an enphase system with 10kW battery and 5kW battery instead of fifteen?

@lancebeare8314 6 ай бұрын

Valuable video, thanks so much, keep up good work 🙏🏼

@dalerolph 5 ай бұрын

Thank you! Will do!

@OlivusOrchards 6 ай бұрын

Can the Powerwall 3 be used without solar? like for outages only?

@patrickrk44 5 ай бұрын

you should see how my electricity provider here in Norcal throws NEM out and doesn't care because they are controlled by city council. Doesnt matter that my solar was installed in 2018

@Xsessive182 7 ай бұрын

Can you charge the pw3 with a generator like the franklin?

@dodcvt 7 ай бұрын

Why didn’t you include Home Grid’s modular batteries?

@stephenbrickwood1602 7 ай бұрын

I think the coldest states will be the last to go offgrid, if ever. The grid will be their safety back up in the worst mid winter month. Or some fossil fuels in emergency will not be a problem.

@chiwitube 7 ай бұрын

What about optimizer on the roof. Doesthe power3 work with tigo?

@beefitter 7 ай бұрын

What battery chemistry is being used in the powerwall 3?

@sh0cktim3 6 ай бұрын

LFP

@johneric98 7 ай бұрын

Would that effect an existing NEM 2.0 status?

@Fun-Time-Family-Kids 7 ай бұрын

No batteries do not affect NEM status

@kupua 7 ай бұрын

@@Fun-Time-Family-Kids Bats don't affect NEM status. but I betcha bat permitting will. Say hello to NEM 3.0 there after.

@cortlandknudson7511 6 ай бұрын

Yes, it will put you into solar billing plan.

@gokart6324 7 ай бұрын

Holy! $h!t, All the setups are over $34K. No way in hell I would pay for any of those setups. No math will make sense that makes any of these viable or return in your investment especially at only 13kw battery capacity. The pricing is also cash. I would hate to see financing when interest rates are over 8%. The EP Cube with 13.3whr is only $9,700. I can't imagine solar panels and wiring more than $10K, so $15K is installation. If all equals the same, the installation and solar panels; would that mean the Tesla Powerwall 3 is $6,000 based on the EP Cube with 13.3whr priced at $9,700?

@sh0cktim3 6 ай бұрын

$20,000 after incentives will pay for itself after a bit. You gotta pay for rising electricity grid cost anyway. Might as well go solar and eventually not have to pay anything.

@leafnutz2341 6 ай бұрын

Powerwall 3 is $8400 including the gateway. The rest is panels, racking, wiring, permits, and labor.

@jameskortmeyer361 6 ай бұрын

Woah Buddy, did you hide under a rock or something. In CA, an average Utility bill is $300 per month or $3,600 a year. Pretending the utility bills never get a rate increase the payback is 9 to 10 years. If the rates increase the payback is 4-6 years. Long story short, if someone knocks on your door and says that can give you 25 years' worth of power for a 1-time upfront payment of 6 Years would you do it? Absolutely I would, because if I plan to live in my home for 15 years I paid for 6 and got 9 years for free.

@ddyoder 6 ай бұрын

you nailed it. I live in CA and had avg electric bill (SCE) of $250-$350/month about 2yrs ago before I put in my PV system (22 Panasonic 360W panels, Enphase IQ8+ microinverters) and with kWh costs now $0.25-$0.35 going up over 10%/YoY my system indeed will payback in 4-5yrs. Thankful to have got in with NEM 2.0 which makes a much faster ROI vs. those recently starting who are on NEM 3.0 @@jameskortmeyer361

@ismaelcamberos6711 5 ай бұрын

Sign me up!

@dominickporretto2004 6 ай бұрын

Are you a tesla certified installer?

@dalerolph 6 ай бұрын

Yes, we are

@Recordeer 5 ай бұрын

@@dalerolphthat's depressing

@stephenbrickwood1602 7 ай бұрын

When the home robotic vacuum cleaner can teach the selfparking EV to selfplug-in at home or work we will all be laughing. 😊😊😊😊 Renewable electricity all day long. Hahaha. Take home a night-full of electricity at the end of the day. Rapid chargers will be on the main roads and at corner stores. Hahaha 👍 Hahaha 😊😊😊

@zdub303 6 ай бұрын

Hard to understand your pricing. Are you saying the Powerwall 3 comes out to $1506 per kWh? That is atrocious. Americans are going to need that price to come down to around $250/kWh or so before its economical and affordable. Even my relatively small home would use 13.5 kWh in about 12 hours in the winter and 4-6 hours in the summer with the AC going. Would need roughly 80-100 kWh of storage before this could become remotely sustainable for anyone in the US that regularly uses air conditioning. EG4 style hybrid inverter + DC coupled batteries are the only reasonable path forward I can see. I hope companies like Tesla catch up to that reality soon.

@jameskortmeyer361 6 ай бұрын

Tesla sold 500,000 Powerwall 2 and every single Tesla cars are sold before a Vin number is generated. Trust me, the market is adopting it perfectly fine, because these systems are breaking even in 4-8 years. 50 years from now every house you look at will have a microgrid.