Great to see both Gali and Dave Lee back with their Tesla content! Both were there long before anybody knew what Tesla was about.
@aflinden5557 ай бұрын
We've got to start working on Mauer now...
@turrafirmaguitarchannel7 ай бұрын
Gali and Dave are OGs. I started watching then in 2019.
@121GiggawattzRC7 ай бұрын
Now we just need Rob back!
@BrunoHeggli-zp3nl7 ай бұрын
This is realy horrible,all the crazy greedy pumpers bullshitting the Public with disinformation!Shamefull!
@scotttisdale27737 ай бұрын
Gali scheming is awesome.
@choosejoymethod72907 ай бұрын
If people understood robo taxi a used Tesla would not be available to buy
@jonathanhowe26527 ай бұрын
You nailed it my friend - which will go up 1st - used Tesla prices or the stock price…?
@bobwallace97537 ай бұрын
If more people believed owner-provided robotaxis are coming fairly soon. If they did then it's like a lot of people would be snatching up used Teslas and renting them out for enough to cover the payment.
@mikafiltenborg75727 ай бұрын
100% correct!
@AriusEich7 ай бұрын
Totally agree. Trying to find more excuses to get more teslas for that future….
@rioriggs35686 ай бұрын
The problem is FSD has barely progressed in the last years. It’s not even close to being a useable product.
@dr-k16677 ай бұрын
Gali was my LONG TIME Tesla Dude who introduced me to Rob and of course we all had to check out Dave Lee (the Sage of Tesla) before it was cool to have a Tesla channel When Gali left KZbin full time, THANK GOODNESS FOR FARZAD! I love seeing this and hope we will get more great CONVERSATION AND IDEAS which organically erupt from great minds just thinking out loud and trying to break their own model. Thanks guys, This is classic Tesla content!
@aaronbounds13367 ай бұрын
22:07 - I have done that experiment, many times over, with my M Y FSD Supervised as an Uber driver. The results are that most people don’t even realize I am not driving. When you ask them they are typically positive on the subject, interested, excited, amazed. Some are hesitant (typically older). I have had one bad reaction, but that person was an irrational wacko anyhow and he was giving everyone one star ratings due to personal problems that had absolutely nothing to do with anyone but him. I did Uber for seven months or so, about 100 trips per month, and it was a ton of fun. The pay is too low to support a family, so I had to stop and go back to my other job, but it’s a fun less than part time gig.
@cathyk91977 ай бұрын
Bet Tesla data centers will be the most energy efficient. Tesla will likely be working quietly toward grid independence in the background. All moving machines will eventually be autonomous and smart. What a time to be alive!
@Luna2Mars7 ай бұрын
Around 31-32 min when Gali was talking about that min video, I had a personal moment of clarity for the future when I was doing just that! Had great vibes at night with the lighting in the new model 3 and some awesome music in FSD, riding home after a long day… I just smiled and enjoyed that setting and experience
@natpainter81857 ай бұрын
right on dude (smiling, nodding head)
@Spudz897 ай бұрын
I’m from Jersey. Can confirm we drive like mental patients.
@Th3_Hoff7 ай бұрын
Gali is the 🐐 LFG!!!
@MjmanDK7 ай бұрын
Why? Enlighten me.
@Th3_Hoff7 ай бұрын
@@MjmanDK duh. Because of dn. That's easy.
@MjmanDK7 ай бұрын
@@Th3_Hoff DN?
@mikemoseley16467 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@gdok60887 ай бұрын
@11:25 "The research around this thing (the human brain) is not fully captured" Farzad. You are being kind - I'm a medical doctor with a strong interest in the human brain and an avid follower of all the scientific progress in understanding the human brain and I can tell you we are not even close to understanding how the hell it does what it does. And nobody anywhere on the planet can explain the mechanisms behind consciousness.
@ericchang77597 ай бұрын
You’re so right on. All other autonomous driving focused on rules-based, secondarily on emulating human thinking. Tesla bypasses both by finding ML secret sauce to writing code for training video and bypass human thinking for driving by solving driving without trying to emulate human thinking. Now they can leverage much shorter code and lower compute to create AI bots.
@AllenChildress7 ай бұрын
You consider the last 80 years of brain research useless?? It is at the foundation of most all the work that Stanford, Carnegie Mellon, and MIT have done to create all this technology we are currently using successfully. Sure there is lots to go, but it sure seems like you have decades of information to catch up on.
@fractalelf77607 ай бұрын
They will never really be able to explain the actual way consciousness is experiential and aware, as the phenomena of consciousness is embedded in the Universe. Best they can hope for is identifying a set of states of material and electrical or even subatomic particle activity for circumstances of consciousness but there is not a real answer anywhere.
@FarzadMediaINC7 ай бұрын
Check out Gali’s channel here: youtube.com/@hyperchangetv?si=7N3AJkP1Sh37iIQc
@Crunch_dGH7 ай бұрын
56:25 Re: FSD Jonesing. Ask anyone who uses FSD >80% how they feel after being suspended or whatever forces them to “relearn driving” for a week. Just as EVs are taking over, the current (forever improving) FSD will become as ubiquitous & just as irresistible. Look out for the exponential, when WS finally wakes up to this FACT. Forget regulatory approvals. What happens when regulators get a taste of “FSD Cough Medicine”! It’ll flip concerns for robotaxi acceptance on their heads! Think of the constant partying/entertainment traffic at all “off” hours! Think of the ads revenues generated by such “destinations” & to/from drinks/food services!! Imagine the new economies needed to support the new “ride to fun zones” businesses!!! F gang ridden public transport. The economic overflow will more than make those “desperation lifestyles” obsolete. F the FUD, just GO FOR IT!!!!
@juansiv7 ай бұрын
Farzad, I see your man cave with all your great gadgets and I wish to have just the dust of your desk .... however, we the 90% who believe in the company owns 100 shares and a couple Model Y's for ride sharing. It's not really fun to see the value of our investment dropping and just some of the chosen ones are so bullish over how many millions can be made when the replacement of drivers are indeed a reality...
@gordonlowe54057 ай бұрын
This video is soooo good!!!!
@evinvestfuture74407 ай бұрын
As an Australian, i pissed myself hard when Gali was talking about Aussies patting crocodiles, hahaha mind of a maniac analogy, love it 😂
@masonbiker017 ай бұрын
Turtle mode the first 2 rides. Jersey mode after that
@tfragia17 ай бұрын
It definitely has to be called Jersey mode now. 😄
@coryneedham18517 ай бұрын
Why do I walk fast? Why do I speed? Because I'd rather give my attention to something else but I have to focus on not running into things so let's get to our destination asap to free up my brain space for the thing I'd rather do. Robotaxis instantly solve this.
@emmanuelwilson27807 ай бұрын
Great informative video. Btw, thanks for nerding out with the detailed explaination about the "click baity" title thing. Most of us are annoyed by click bait, yet we all click on it. I get that you did not invent the game, you're just playing it 😅
@tonydeveyra46117 ай бұрын
I'm a simple man. I see Gali and Farzad on the thumbnail, I click it.
@Luca2807 ай бұрын
Farzad! My man! Thank you for speaking up for the Jersey driver! We have been talking about a Jersey mode since I got FSD. FSD gets bullied in the Tri-state. Also, it has no clue about toll roads but I digress. Cheers to the family from the Garden state.
@sergefournier77447 ай бұрын
About the passenger seat syndrom. When you drive and turn fast, your body know you turn and some muscles are working to counter the moovement. But when you are a passenger, you get moved a little left and right if the turn is not "comfort" level. I do not drive the same alone and when i have a passenger because i understand my body know when i turn, but the passenger do not.
@LionheartLivin7 ай бұрын
I think further into the future we can ask the AI why it reasoned the way it did and performed the action the way it did
@mytxyorkies7 ай бұрын
I'm so glad y'all are having this discussion!!! 0:58
@mcconlogue18987 ай бұрын
My cousin is a commercial airline pilot. He told me that almost all commercial flights are run completely on auto pilot. He is there in case an intervention is necessary.
@turningpoint42387 ай бұрын
Back over 20yrs back now there was an article in the NewScientist about autopilot in planes. The next week an engineer had written in that used to work on autopilot back in the 90's. Apparently they had this joke that a plane should have one pilot and a dog. The pilot was there to make the passengers feel safe and the dog was trained to bite the pilot even if it looked like the pilot was thinking about touching any of the controls. Also knew BA's ost senior captain (although he was actually quite young but had been flying for the most time) back then he said the autopilot was better than humans including in the landing. Although many airports don't allow autopilot to land planes. Said just the week before he had bounced a plane on landing, even with all his experience, autopilot would not have. Another story I have about autopilot is sad. A young kid I was talking to was training to fly planes and wanted to be a pilot. Told him to choose which type of flying he went into carefully as autopilot and drones were going to take over many parts of the industry. Unfortunately he was killed along with another pilot crashing a plane whilst observing power lines. It's a job done better with drones now, both for cost and safety.
@parispm887 ай бұрын
I think the way to solve the personalization of FSD when you first use it; will be easy once they integrate Grok, you can literally just tell Grok through maybe a dialogue about your preferences and adjust them on the fly by telling Grok hey can you slow down on your turns.
@richardalexander57587 ай бұрын
One of the best discussions regarding AI that I've seen. Reminds me of riding horses, you come to trust, understand and anticipate what they will do with various outcomes. Right now V12 is pretty lame, but it's worth training. Thanks.
@williamflynn49547 ай бұрын
Farzad, you think New Jersey is bad - take a taxi drive across Rome, Italy sometime. Traffic lights, lane markers, speed limits - are merely suggestions. I’ve never gotten out of an Italian taxi ride without having to reach down to break the seal between the seat and my ass.
@shepherdsknoll7 ай бұрын
100% As a 17yr old exchange student in 1970 , I can verify this as true, driving on the sidewalk, extreme competition on the road - madness. I was with my Italian family - 5 adults in a Morris Minor (1100ccs - combined weight of passengers probably 800 lbs - the mother weighed 300 by herself) we went barreling into a dark tunnel from complete sunshine to find all traffic at a stop. The son did a good job of trying to stop the rolling mass but we still slightly ran into the cars ahead of us, what mayhem, EVERYONE got out of their cars to engage in the verbal battle and then it turned out we were on the trolley rails so everyone on the upcoming trolley got off to engage- I just stepped aside and shook my head.
@damienbushby14237 ай бұрын
I don't think Elon should be promoting breaking through the law through speeding, just because the mob is.
@bobwallace97537 ай бұрын
I've driven in Rome. I've driven in India. It's just a matter of learning what the local customs are and driving like a local. I'd much rather pass a slow moving truck on a two lane highway in India than in the US. The custom there is for the truck being passed to help the car passing it. And a truck in the other lane will slow to allow a safe pass. Just the opposite in much of the US.
@Alex-yi9xd7 ай бұрын
Chill needs to be chiller. Assertive needs to be more assertive. Sounds like it just needs a wider range.
@jsa37 ай бұрын
Yes, a wider range and perhaps a slider right on the screen that the passengers can adjust anytime. For new riders, default to the chillest setting, thereafter it adjusts to whatever that person's last setting was set to
@endeuinable7 ай бұрын
The wild west at 21:06 with the arms flapping around was hilarious. Gali is great! Good episode!
@bobwheeler81017 ай бұрын
I think you three have absolutely got it and are understanding the problems AND the solutions. I drive professionally and use second level thinking less than half the time and only because I am a professional driver. Scanning for potential edge cases, like deer or road hazards, is how I do it, but most drivers don’t. I believe FSD simply scanning without distraction will get us there… by June 25. 🤞
@tonydeveyra46117 ай бұрын
1:00:45 Pursuant to this thought of cities transforming once we have robotaxis-- I believe that one underappreciated aspect to the robotaxi revolution will be how much space will be freed up by the elimination of parking spaces and how much safer walking, bicycling and other micromobility devices will be when there are no more distracted drivers. I think that the parking spaces on the side of the street will become dedicated bike paths, separated from car traffic by physical barriers and that the future of transportation will be the combination of micromobility and robotaxis.
@Crunch_dGH7 ай бұрын
46:00 Re: FSD Jonesing. Ask anyone who uses FSD >80% how they feel after being suspended or whatever forces them to “relearn driving” for a week. Just as EVs are taking over, the current (forever improving) FSD will become as ubiquitous & just as irresistible. Look out for the exponential, when WS finally wakes up to this FACT. Forget regulatory approvals. What happens when regulators get a taste of “FSD Cough Medicine”! It’ll flip concerns for robotaxi acceptance on their heads! Think of the constant partying/entertainment traffic at all “off” hours! Think of the ads revenues generated by such “destinations” & to/from drinks/food services!! Imagine the new economies needed to support the new “ride to fun zones” businesses!!! F gang ridden public transport. The economic overflow will more than make those “desperation lifestyles” obsolete. F the FUD, just GO FOR IT!!!!
@hiimjonpaul7 ай бұрын
I’ve never done FSD and yea, that first experience will be really important before I chillax and get on my phone and enjoy the ride
@JohnEAvenson7 ай бұрын
Galli. About your question of when will we see the first cyber taxi service on the street -- i believe that the 7 story multi parking lot is not for employees but for building a large stock of taxi cars out of the factory and get enough stock in big numbers to suddenly fill a single city with enough cars to provide a good experience of instant availability.
@gohansaru78217 ай бұрын
I'm a 737 pilot. Yesterday a lady at the gate told her husband she was so glad I have gray hair!
@johnbuchman48547 ай бұрын
Hopefully you never took any of the clot shots!
@gohansaru78217 ай бұрын
@@johnbuchman4854 I did. My airline laid off any pilot who refused. I could not afford to go without pay. But those who refused won a lawsuit. I've had no side affects that I know of.
@dealerovski827 ай бұрын
Did you tell her the truth? 99% Autopilot.
@gohansaru78217 ай бұрын
@@dealerovski82 Haha! Her husband was a pilot for Allegiant so she probably knows. But the real funny part was that it was only my 4th day flying as a captain (though I have 16,000 hours as co-pilot). I did not mention that.
@mfpears7 ай бұрын
@@johnbuchman4854 you know the virus caused more clots, right?
@AlanaMaiden7 ай бұрын
40:01 .. amazing return.. thank you needed
@AlanaMaiden7 ай бұрын
46:21 hmm..
@AlanaMaiden7 ай бұрын
47:35
@AlanaMaiden7 ай бұрын
49:20 inferance is human mechanic.. that's human remote drivers.. not ai
@AlanaMaiden7 ай бұрын
😂😂 55:02 cinnamon rolls
@gordonlowe54057 ай бұрын
Gali's monorail tests were epic! It is good to see him on YT again!
@CalvinGrisham7 ай бұрын
just a thought. what about releasing fsd fully and IF a corner case comes out and the internal computer cannot figure it out, for some reason, then have a ready employee dial in, very quickly, to solve it as a human? so car pulls over stops, asks for help from master base..:) and remote control fix.....should be very rare and doable if the corner cases are so rare.
@francoisdesbiens38867 ай бұрын
They could have a tesla taxi assistant on the screen live to talk to the new user for every new user that as never experience the robotaxi. It would help the user have a good first experience. Then if all good, you don't need to talk to the user next time around. Or replace the taxi assistant by ai after that.
@rogerstarkey53907 ай бұрын
Why in the vehicle? You have that on your "Device" (Aka digital assistant/ "phone")
@sethmyers23967 ай бұрын
Farzad. I think I speak for everyone when I say we love your videos and we are gonna need you to post that Sourdough recipe! 😊
@elgenio11ful7 ай бұрын
Hello Great video, you talk about your dad not liking how slow the car is, question for you… on the FSD settings, has he tried ASSERTIVE MODE?
@kennethlorenzo3237 ай бұрын
Great talk guys!😁. You had me bustin up on my walk today. Thank you for all your hard work and cool insights. It’s nice to get little nuggets and different perspectives.
@gxd4b17 ай бұрын
Clearly the smartest person in this room who thinks of the right questions to be asking at this time, is the guy who is holding his microphone.
@ExecutiveZombie7 ай бұрын
I love that he’s holding that performance mic!🎤💯
@JosephHurtsellers7 ай бұрын
I respect them all .. but actually think his questions are a little 2d ... Of Of course people are going to be frightened of it. Just imagine how people felt the first time they got on an airplane. Just my two cents... But I do think he adds tremendous value and the conversation would not be nearly as good without his perspective.
@jonbowes59997 ай бұрын
Hey Farzad, I don't think it matters if FSD drives sedately WHEN working as a RoBoTaxi... The rider most likely won't be paying attention to the driving this is only an issue when used in SUPERVISED mode. Tesla isn't building FSD to be used in SUPERVISED mode, in fact Tesla isn't building FSD to be used in any way other than UNSUPERVISED! If I am correct the design of the dedicated vehicles will be such that the riders may not even be in a position to see the road ahead.
@ianmilham73977 ай бұрын
On Gali’s “lack of accountability and lack of understanding”. Black box mystery intelligence, I do really think that having an integrated LLM as the interface to the car that we can use as direct communication. I would love to be able to tell the car to go around a slow person, or take an alternate route more known by locals, etc. being able to explain to the car and the car articulating choices back to you in conversation would be amazing
@hsiaohu29597 ай бұрын
If AI achieves agency, then perhaps we can program skin in the game in which it will die (“pull the plug”) if it does something dangerous
@chooksinthecity25867 ай бұрын
Gali’s demo and intro video in the robo taxi is awesome. Non Tesla-ists need reassurance for sure. Friend were afraid just seeing the lack of dials in my Tesla. Young generation will be totally accepting - they born into the tech as magic age
@aaronbounds13367 ай бұрын
27:20- just black out all of the windows and put in a bigger TV screen: immersive home theater. People can watch a movie and then viola, they’re at their destination. People don’t even need to know or care to know what is happening outside of the vehicle. Same thing with a plane flight. No one but the pilot and copilot see or understand what is happening with a commercial plane flight, but they still get on it and they still land just fine.
@preeyakumari-i2q7 ай бұрын
People will be throwing up in the back seat !
@513eis7 ай бұрын
Awesome discussion. I learned a lot. IMPORTANT Farzad! I have a friend who is a cyber security expert who told me she will never ride in a car controlled by software because it just a matter of time when you are in a car that just got hacked and instructed to do something scary. They can patch this but a LOT of damage could happen between the hack and the fix. This issue really needs to be addressed and WILL become an issue and could stall the cause significantly. Some type of failsafe needs to be developed to reassure riders/owners that this situation is safe. The answer is NOT how AI makes code that is hard for humans to "decode" and that updates happen "all the time". My friend said this code can be and is already hacked today ....using AI. Great show Farzad!
@beachcrow7 ай бұрын
Tesla holds regular "hackathons" for hackers to try to hack their software, they give away a car or significant cash as prizes for successful hacks. Smart way to catch a hack before it is fully developed or implemented for evil. Everyone has a "friend" who says crazy stuff.
@RichardSalmore7 ай бұрын
I've never heard of a neural net hack... yet. How many othe Teslas have been hacked? Attempts...Yes. Fact: Tesla pays hackers to find security issue. A few 6-figure payments and a couple of free cars later, haven't heard much!
@cathyk91977 ай бұрын
Tesla regularly runs zero-day-exploit hacking challenge events. World's best hackers compete for generous prizes trying to hack the latest Tesla software.
@513eis7 ай бұрын
@cathyk9197 hi Cathy. The fact that some can hack it every time is the issue. It will only take one or two gruesome accidents to kill all efforts. ...it shouldn’t but will. ...thanks to crap journalism.
@513eis7 ай бұрын
@@RichardSalmore hi Richard. There needs to be more information readily available from tesla about this to reassure the public. So much FUD... you know the vultures are circulating to monetize Tesla’s failures... perceived or not.
@XOXSUSIEQXOX7 ай бұрын
He’s absolutely right about the speed being too quick and making passengers nervous. My mom loves the Tesla and wants me to drive full self driving every time we get in the car… But it does scare her sometimes! If you’re not holding the wheel or in control of the car, it just seems like it’s going too fast when it makes major transitions.
@lalithkx7 ай бұрын
I have been using my MYLR with FSD for ride share and educating people on the safety and goodness of FSD. It’s very educating to know that some people are shocked and some just take it in stride as if it is inevitable. I am loving it so far
@Limitless17177 ай бұрын
Gents… this was my fav episode to date. It’s fun to see you guys wrestling with the same things in wrestling with. So fun.
@utubeblackbat7 ай бұрын
Hey, anyone know if Tesla gives any notice at all even a few days if they are going to lower/ raise prices on a certain model??? Looking to get a model X but wondering if they will drop prices..thanks
@grzegorzkapica79307 ай бұрын
24:28 why does the car not have an aggressive and chill setting?
@damarismaldonadorivera50377 ай бұрын
THE BEST IS YET TO COME🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
@richiehart78587 ай бұрын
Farzad's argument at 12:10 is true. The only persuasive case against the random unexplained error being totally unacceptable is massive statistical proof that the frequency of such errors is so low that the benefit far outweighs the cost. FSD is not there yet, is much closer than it used to be and appears it will get there at some point.
@kevinplatt7 ай бұрын
Rider's expectation...totally key and exactly what I was talking about today while driving with FSD.
@gohansaru78217 ай бұрын
The game changer for me is when cars start talking to each other and coordinating their actions to avoid collisions. That's what modern airplanes do. See TCAS. If another Tesla "sees" my GPS location without vision or line-of-site we can't collide.
@zambrial7 ай бұрын
I feel the conversation surrounding FSD and how the perception of safety is important is a really interesting one. My opinion is that as the system becomes more robust they will likely implement an algorithm based on your riding preferences using a rating system to suit you personally, which will help solve the subjective nature of user experience.
@ben-andyhein74977 ай бұрын
A Waymo drove by on my side street yesterday afternoon in Hollywood, CA. No driver, couldn't see if there was a passenger. But it LOOKED like Robby the Robot! You know, 50's sci fi! A Tesla looks cool. Cybertruck just looks otherworldly on a city street or on the freeway. Can't wait for Cybercab!
@rb80497 ай бұрын
HW3 was designed in 2017. That is mind blowing that there was so much insight in the compute required in the end.
@Limitless17177 ай бұрын
“ tesla, come pick up my dog and bring her to the kennel for the day to play“. I need this. Especially today as I sit hear hungover 😅
@Cybertruck_697 ай бұрын
Someday hopefully there will be some sort of version to version autocorrect for things that have been solved in one version can be propagated into other versions. if it is a csv file, track changes and tweet those specific values in other versions? Sounds so easy. luckily the world has the amazing Tesla engineers to actually achieve this.
@greatcondor86787 ай бұрын
Big problem I see now is traffic jams needing to get over 2 lanes to your exit. Sometimes you have to force cars to yield way.
@Roblafo7 ай бұрын
Gali is hilarious lmao
@jimparr01Utube7 ай бұрын
It will be most interesting to see how FSD handles the middle of Paris and the middle of Rome. Good discussion you guys. Thank you for airing it.
@allfouryouandme50497 ай бұрын
Gali is the best! His scheming is always 10/10
@teitpoulsen71837 ай бұрын
How expensive is public transportation, bus, train and subway pr miles. How will Robota i compare?
@lesbendo63637 ай бұрын
Driving style; After the first few turns, stopping and starting the car can ask the passenger for feed back and adjust accordingly. Then save in the passengers profile. Have a profile for each model taxi, Robo, M3 of MY. 🇨🇦
@angelamark95507 ай бұрын
Great program!
@slwiser17 ай бұрын
How many miles per accident does Uber and Waymo show?
@mikafiltenborg75727 ай бұрын
15 miles😂
@2pdlpwr7 ай бұрын
Kinda like the judge in Delaware. Mistaken, with authority to wreck your life, because they have authority....! A loose cannon.
@andyonions78647 ай бұрын
Embodied AI brains will be amazing but the distributed latent compute power in all the cars is beyond supercomputer.
@howtoactuallyinvest7 ай бұрын
I'm very interested in the day this starts being utilized
@flattackfirefly7 ай бұрын
Farzad, your counter points are just amazing. I just can’t see people not adopting this. Once the snowball starts it will be unstoppable. A whole new exponential curve, but an extremely steep one!!!
@zipp53987 ай бұрын
Thanks for an interesting video although I didn’t understand all the acronyms. I did enjoy the video and found it somewhat informative. A thought pass through my mind. Wonder if Elon would ever sell FSD to other companies considering he’s putting it in his robots as well. Sounds like not just cars in the future. This could be used theoretically in the farm fields at harvest time so that farmers would not have to work 24 seven during harvest season, perhaps one day or it could be used to run a sprayer and monitor field conditions, such as laying out Roll before planting. These are the things that go through my head as I watch these videos in the morning before I get to work although this doesn’t benefit the majority it benefits the very hard-working, who don’t have time to do other things in life such as vacations because they’re running the type of job that requires constant monitoring and work. Thanks for a great video again. and a thought provoking one at that.
@christopherhale5807 ай бұрын
I love Gali’s take on FSD. Refreshing
@513eis7 ай бұрын
Galli.... it would be much more efficient to deliver cinnamon rolls by drone. ;-D ....change cinnamon roll to something too heavy for drones.
@angelamark95507 ай бұрын
Great ideas dudes! One more idea to throw out for you: How cool and safe it will be if you can summon a Robotaxi that can take your kids to school ? That will eliminate the fears for parents who don’t trust strangers driving them.
@grzegorzkapica79307 ай бұрын
29:25 1. There will be enough customers. 2. We do need public approval. 3. 20% people will loose their jobs. Wages pressure will be huge.
@regaldridge42487 ай бұрын
Just a thought. FSD needs massive and fast compute since it literally does not know “what is round the next corner” and is responsible for lives … whereas Optimus lives in a mostly predictable and well scoped task and physical environment. So Optimus might well manage perfectly well with more modest compute needing much less power? Of course Optimus may move from task environment A to task environment B, necessitating a learned “program” change . It’s all very exciting but I think that Optimus might be easier to solve than FSD once the physical aspects are completed, especially given the flying start already provided by FSD experience?
@NirvanaHalen7 ай бұрын
Humanoid robots are NOT coming in your lifetime. They are simply too dangerous. Ever see videos of them? Do you ever see a human standing in close range? The servos in robotic technology are VERY powerful to articulate everything correctly. In other words if one of these bots grabs you and squeezes by mistake, bones are broken. A Tesla employee has already been hurt by one. Around pets and children? Not in this lifetime holmes.
@rorykeegan18957 ай бұрын
Happy to see Tim is selling his Tee Shirts successfully ....
@cathyk91977 ай бұрын
Tim Dodd sells the highest quality tee shirts across the entire Muskonomy related economy🥰
@AndrewRenaux7 ай бұрын
24:33 Sub-model training of FSD based on geographic driving style might be useful. NYC vs Denver vs Seattle VS Mumbai VS Australia. The world doesn’t drive the same way.
@jimmy0177 ай бұрын
Good discussion
@Stockmonger4u7 ай бұрын
Color changing skin ala BMW. Elegant and very Tesla. Advertisement is a huge money maker with this Robotaxi model. Putting an into video for the first year or two is a good idea, then have an in car advert loop which rider can bypass if paying a premium for ride, much like you do in KZbin and other services.
@cyberbull237 ай бұрын
Love having contrarian opinions on the show and taking through all scenarios. This is the way we solidify our beliefs in this great company. Bravo fam!
@QuietJugung7 ай бұрын
It's a question of how safe it is for the government to make it legal. Passenger airplanes and cars were legal when by today's safety standards were horrendous. Countries will want to be the first to legalize it and accept failures to be ahead.
@steveedlund73577 ай бұрын
I need to see actual results for FSD where I live in the Upper Midwest in snowy conditions with icy roads.
@jimmccall80307 ай бұрын
Hardware 3 was first installed in model 3s in mid May 2019
@johnp.weiksnar68617 ай бұрын
Super Chill Turtle Mode for beginner passengers FTW. . . .
@paulkuppinger4587 ай бұрын
Great info. However, way too many commercials.
@wayofflow9557 ай бұрын
If they make the cab super safe in a crash and probability of death in an accident it almost zero. People will take it all the time just for the safety aspects! If some how fsd fail the car are still crash safe for mortality, it’s a winner!
@hwillia2047 ай бұрын
Waymo has tons of equipment, Lidars, sensors, and cameras all over it, including people remotely controlling the cars that are not on a production scale.
@fix-hb15617 ай бұрын
When?
@Cybertruck_697 ай бұрын
Chill should be more mellowed. Assertive should be more assertive. 👍🏻
@tfragia17 ай бұрын
Cinnamon Rolls with Raisins Bro. 😂 1:01:20
@capestreasuresPtown7 ай бұрын
Great talk, thank you gentlemen!
@fractalelf77607 ай бұрын
It’s still remarkable to me when people come up and say we only need current devoted task, fixed position robots. Yes the human form is not as efficient for one task, it is also true it is very, very good for generalized tasks and this is why humanoid robots have such potential and also allows humans to better accept them. No one wants to work with or interact with alternatively a giant metal crab for instance.
@2pdlpwr7 ай бұрын
Elon understands the Terminator side of this great Idea, the time of abundance. Let the bot take care of everthing. It starts with driving our car for us....................then whats next?
@larsnystrom66987 ай бұрын
The car doesn't learn, that's done in the center. But maybe the car could support that better. The car should be able to, just like a human driver, recognize that it has made a mistake. It would then upload that situation to the center, where it's used for improving it. Human interventions wouldn't then be needed for FSD's learning. These will also become fewer anyway, when FSD isn't supervised anymore. A few situations where FSD should recognize that it made a mistake: ;If another car drives out of turn because FSD is to slow to act. If another car with the right of way reacts because FSD is a hinder. It being honked! It's in the wrong lane for the planned path. It has to do drastic maneuvering to avoid something. It doesn't let another car in, and it does something dangerous. There's a lot of situations that FSD could identify as reasons for improving the driving. The next problem would be, how does FSD go about finding out how to avoid those situations in the first place, and how to get out of them if it did get into them. That's driving intelligence! I guess it's a while before FSD self-improve in this manner, thiugh, but if it did, it would become a super-driver!
@MarcoYolo4207 ай бұрын
6:08 "HW5" is called "AI.5", right? _Elon Musk also officially announced Tesla’s FSD hardware 5.0, which he says Tesla is now calling “AI 5”. AI 5 is expected to hit the production lines for customer vehicles in approximately 18 months - around December 2025, with a massive slate of improvements. It is expected to be approximately 10x better than hardware 4.0, and up to 50x better in terms of inference power alone._
@ianh97727 ай бұрын
You don't generally toss the weights when you do a model update, you'll 95% of the time doing Fine Tuning with new data if you've invested in RLHF through the Tesla driver team