Tesla's Lead Is Unbeatable.

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Farzad

Farzad

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@HyperChangeTV
@HyperChangeTV 7 ай бұрын
so much fun thanks for having me Farzad!!!!
@FarzadMediaINC
@FarzadMediaINC 7 ай бұрын
Our pleasure!
@beachcrow
@beachcrow 7 ай бұрын
Great to see both Gali and Dave Lee back with their Tesla content! Both were there long before anybody knew what Tesla was about.
@aflinden555
@aflinden555 7 ай бұрын
We've got to start working on Mauer now...
@turrafirmaguitarchannel
@turrafirmaguitarchannel 7 ай бұрын
Gali and Dave are OGs. I started watching then in 2019.
@121GiggawattzRC
@121GiggawattzRC 7 ай бұрын
Now we just need Rob back!
@BrunoHeggli-zp3nl
@BrunoHeggli-zp3nl 7 ай бұрын
This is realy horrible,all the crazy greedy pumpers bullshitting the Public with disinformation!Shamefull!
@scotttisdale2773
@scotttisdale2773 7 ай бұрын
Gali scheming is awesome.
@choosejoymethod7290
@choosejoymethod7290 7 ай бұрын
If people understood robo taxi a used Tesla would not be available to buy
@jonathanhowe2652
@jonathanhowe2652 7 ай бұрын
You nailed it my friend - which will go up 1st - used Tesla prices or the stock price…?
@bobwallace9753
@bobwallace9753 7 ай бұрын
If more people believed owner-provided robotaxis are coming fairly soon. If they did then it's like a lot of people would be snatching up used Teslas and renting them out for enough to cover the payment.
@mikafiltenborg7572
@mikafiltenborg7572 7 ай бұрын
100% correct!
@AriusEich
@AriusEich 7 ай бұрын
Totally agree. Trying to find more excuses to get more teslas for that future….
@rioriggs3568
@rioriggs3568 6 ай бұрын
The problem is FSD has barely progressed in the last years. It’s not even close to being a useable product.
@dr-k1667
@dr-k1667 7 ай бұрын
Gali was my LONG TIME Tesla Dude who introduced me to Rob and of course we all had to check out Dave Lee (the Sage of Tesla) before it was cool to have a Tesla channel When Gali left KZbin full time, THANK GOODNESS FOR FARZAD! I love seeing this and hope we will get more great CONVERSATION AND IDEAS which organically erupt from great minds just thinking out loud and trying to break their own model. Thanks guys, This is classic Tesla content!
@aaronbounds1336
@aaronbounds1336 7 ай бұрын
22:07 - I have done that experiment, many times over, with my M Y FSD Supervised as an Uber driver. The results are that most people don’t even realize I am not driving. When you ask them they are typically positive on the subject, interested, excited, amazed. Some are hesitant (typically older). I have had one bad reaction, but that person was an irrational wacko anyhow and he was giving everyone one star ratings due to personal problems that had absolutely nothing to do with anyone but him. I did Uber for seven months or so, about 100 trips per month, and it was a ton of fun. The pay is too low to support a family, so I had to stop and go back to my other job, but it’s a fun less than part time gig.
@cathyk9197
@cathyk9197 7 ай бұрын
Bet Tesla data centers will be the most energy efficient. Tesla will likely be working quietly toward grid independence in the background. All moving machines will eventually be autonomous and smart. What a time to be alive!
@Luna2Mars
@Luna2Mars 7 ай бұрын
Around 31-32 min when Gali was talking about that min video, I had a personal moment of clarity for the future when I was doing just that! Had great vibes at night with the lighting in the new model 3 and some awesome music in FSD, riding home after a long day… I just smiled and enjoyed that setting and experience
@natpainter8185
@natpainter8185 7 ай бұрын
right on dude (smiling, nodding head)
@Spudz89
@Spudz89 7 ай бұрын
I’m from Jersey. Can confirm we drive like mental patients.
@Th3_Hoff
@Th3_Hoff 7 ай бұрын
Gali is the 🐐 LFG!!!
@MjmanDK
@MjmanDK 7 ай бұрын
Why? Enlighten me.
@Th3_Hoff
@Th3_Hoff 7 ай бұрын
@@MjmanDK duh. Because of dn. That's easy.
@MjmanDK
@MjmanDK 7 ай бұрын
@@Th3_Hoff DN?
@mikemoseley1646
@mikemoseley1646 7 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@gdok6088
@gdok6088 7 ай бұрын
@11:25 "The research around this thing (the human brain) is not fully captured" Farzad. You are being kind - I'm a medical doctor with a strong interest in the human brain and an avid follower of all the scientific progress in understanding the human brain and I can tell you we are not even close to understanding how the hell it does what it does. And nobody anywhere on the planet can explain the mechanisms behind consciousness.
@ericchang7759
@ericchang7759 7 ай бұрын
You’re so right on. All other autonomous driving focused on rules-based, secondarily on emulating human thinking. Tesla bypasses both by finding ML secret sauce to writing code for training video and bypass human thinking for driving by solving driving without trying to emulate human thinking. Now they can leverage much shorter code and lower compute to create AI bots.
@AllenChildress
@AllenChildress 7 ай бұрын
You consider the last 80 years of brain research useless?? It is at the foundation of most all the work that Stanford, Carnegie Mellon, and MIT have done to create all this technology we are currently using successfully. Sure there is lots to go, but it sure seems like you have decades of information to catch up on.
@fractalelf7760
@fractalelf7760 7 ай бұрын
They will never really be able to explain the actual way consciousness is experiential and aware, as the phenomena of consciousness is embedded in the Universe. Best they can hope for is identifying a set of states of material and electrical or even subatomic particle activity for circumstances of consciousness but there is not a real answer anywhere.
@FarzadMediaINC
@FarzadMediaINC 7 ай бұрын
Check out Gali’s channel here: youtube.com/@hyperchangetv?si=7N3AJkP1Sh37iIQc
@Crunch_dGH
@Crunch_dGH 7 ай бұрын
56:25 Re: FSD Jonesing. Ask anyone who uses FSD >80% how they feel after being suspended or whatever forces them to “relearn driving” for a week. Just as EVs are taking over, the current (forever improving) FSD will become as ubiquitous & just as irresistible. Look out for the exponential, when WS finally wakes up to this FACT. Forget regulatory approvals. What happens when regulators get a taste of “FSD Cough Medicine”! It’ll flip concerns for robotaxi acceptance on their heads! Think of the constant partying/entertainment traffic at all “off” hours! Think of the ads revenues generated by such “destinations” & to/from drinks/food services!! Imagine the new economies needed to support the new “ride to fun zones” businesses!!! F gang ridden public transport. The economic overflow will more than make those “desperation lifestyles” obsolete. F the FUD, just GO FOR IT!!!!
@juansiv
@juansiv 7 ай бұрын
Farzad, I see your man cave with all your great gadgets and I wish to have just the dust of your desk .... however, we the 90% who believe in the company owns 100 shares and a couple Model Y's for ride sharing. It's not really fun to see the value of our investment dropping and just some of the chosen ones are so bullish over how many millions can be made when the replacement of drivers are indeed a reality...
@gordonlowe5405
@gordonlowe5405 7 ай бұрын
This video is soooo good!!!!
@evinvestfuture7440
@evinvestfuture7440 7 ай бұрын
As an Australian, i pissed myself hard when Gali was talking about Aussies patting crocodiles, hahaha mind of a maniac analogy, love it 😂
@masonbiker01
@masonbiker01 7 ай бұрын
Turtle mode the first 2 rides. Jersey mode after that
@tfragia1
@tfragia1 7 ай бұрын
It definitely has to be called Jersey mode now. 😄
@coryneedham1851
@coryneedham1851 7 ай бұрын
Why do I walk fast? Why do I speed? Because I'd rather give my attention to something else but I have to focus on not running into things so let's get to our destination asap to free up my brain space for the thing I'd rather do. Robotaxis instantly solve this.
@emmanuelwilson2780
@emmanuelwilson2780 7 ай бұрын
Great informative video. Btw, thanks for nerding out with the detailed explaination about the "click baity" title thing. Most of us are annoyed by click bait, yet we all click on it. I get that you did not invent the game, you're just playing it 😅
@tonydeveyra4611
@tonydeveyra4611 7 ай бұрын
I'm a simple man. I see Gali and Farzad on the thumbnail, I click it.
@Luca280
@Luca280 7 ай бұрын
Farzad! My man! Thank you for speaking up for the Jersey driver! We have been talking about a Jersey mode since I got FSD. FSD gets bullied in the Tri-state. Also, it has no clue about toll roads but I digress. Cheers to the family from the Garden state.
@sergefournier7744
@sergefournier7744 7 ай бұрын
About the passenger seat syndrom. When you drive and turn fast, your body know you turn and some muscles are working to counter the moovement. But when you are a passenger, you get moved a little left and right if the turn is not "comfort" level. I do not drive the same alone and when i have a passenger because i understand my body know when i turn, but the passenger do not.
@LionheartLivin
@LionheartLivin 7 ай бұрын
I think further into the future we can ask the AI why it reasoned the way it did and performed the action the way it did
@mytxyorkies
@mytxyorkies 7 ай бұрын
I'm so glad y'all are having this discussion!!! 0:58
@mcconlogue1898
@mcconlogue1898 7 ай бұрын
My cousin is a commercial airline pilot. He told me that almost all commercial flights are run completely on auto pilot. He is there in case an intervention is necessary.
@turningpoint4238
@turningpoint4238 7 ай бұрын
Back over 20yrs back now there was an article in the NewScientist about autopilot in planes. The next week an engineer had written in that used to work on autopilot back in the 90's. Apparently they had this joke that a plane should have one pilot and a dog. The pilot was there to make the passengers feel safe and the dog was trained to bite the pilot even if it looked like the pilot was thinking about touching any of the controls. Also knew BA's ost senior captain (although he was actually quite young but had been flying for the most time) back then he said the autopilot was better than humans including in the landing. Although many airports don't allow autopilot to land planes. Said just the week before he had bounced a plane on landing, even with all his experience, autopilot would not have. Another story I have about autopilot is sad. A young kid I was talking to was training to fly planes and wanted to be a pilot. Told him to choose which type of flying he went into carefully as autopilot and drones were going to take over many parts of the industry. Unfortunately he was killed along with another pilot crashing a plane whilst observing power lines. It's a job done better with drones now, both for cost and safety.
@parispm88
@parispm88 7 ай бұрын
I think the way to solve the personalization of FSD when you first use it; will be easy once they integrate Grok, you can literally just tell Grok through maybe a dialogue about your preferences and adjust them on the fly by telling Grok hey can you slow down on your turns.
@richardalexander5758
@richardalexander5758 7 ай бұрын
One of the best discussions regarding AI that I've seen. Reminds me of riding horses, you come to trust, understand and anticipate what they will do with various outcomes. Right now V12 is pretty lame, but it's worth training. Thanks.
@williamflynn4954
@williamflynn4954 7 ай бұрын
Farzad, you think New Jersey is bad - take a taxi drive across Rome, Italy sometime. Traffic lights, lane markers, speed limits - are merely suggestions. I’ve never gotten out of an Italian taxi ride without having to reach down to break the seal between the seat and my ass.
@shepherdsknoll
@shepherdsknoll 7 ай бұрын
100% As a 17yr old exchange student in 1970 , I can verify this as true, driving on the sidewalk, extreme competition on the road - madness. I was with my Italian family - 5 adults in a Morris Minor (1100ccs - combined weight of passengers probably 800 lbs - the mother weighed 300 by herself) we went barreling into a dark tunnel from complete sunshine to find all traffic at a stop. The son did a good job of trying to stop the rolling mass but we still slightly ran into the cars ahead of us, what mayhem, EVERYONE got out of their cars to engage in the verbal battle and then it turned out we were on the trolley rails so everyone on the upcoming trolley got off to engage- I just stepped aside and shook my head.
@damienbushby1423
@damienbushby1423 7 ай бұрын
I don't think Elon should be promoting breaking through the law through speeding, just because the mob is.
@bobwallace9753
@bobwallace9753 7 ай бұрын
I've driven in Rome. I've driven in India. It's just a matter of learning what the local customs are and driving like a local. I'd much rather pass a slow moving truck on a two lane highway in India than in the US. The custom there is for the truck being passed to help the car passing it. And a truck in the other lane will slow to allow a safe pass. Just the opposite in much of the US.
@Alex-yi9xd
@Alex-yi9xd 7 ай бұрын
Chill needs to be chiller. Assertive needs to be more assertive. Sounds like it just needs a wider range.
@jsa3
@jsa3 7 ай бұрын
Yes, a wider range and perhaps a slider right on the screen that the passengers can adjust anytime. For new riders, default to the chillest setting, thereafter it adjusts to whatever that person's last setting was set to
@endeuinable
@endeuinable 7 ай бұрын
The wild west at 21:06 with the arms flapping around was hilarious. Gali is great! Good episode!
@bobwheeler8101
@bobwheeler8101 7 ай бұрын
I think you three have absolutely got it and are understanding the problems AND the solutions. I drive professionally and use second level thinking less than half the time and only because I am a professional driver. Scanning for potential edge cases, like deer or road hazards, is how I do it, but most drivers don’t. I believe FSD simply scanning without distraction will get us there… by June 25. 🤞
@tonydeveyra4611
@tonydeveyra4611 7 ай бұрын
1:00:45 Pursuant to this thought of cities transforming once we have robotaxis-- I believe that one underappreciated aspect to the robotaxi revolution will be how much space will be freed up by the elimination of parking spaces and how much safer walking, bicycling and other micromobility devices will be when there are no more distracted drivers. I think that the parking spaces on the side of the street will become dedicated bike paths, separated from car traffic by physical barriers and that the future of transportation will be the combination of micromobility and robotaxis.
@Crunch_dGH
@Crunch_dGH 7 ай бұрын
46:00 Re: FSD Jonesing. Ask anyone who uses FSD >80% how they feel after being suspended or whatever forces them to “relearn driving” for a week. Just as EVs are taking over, the current (forever improving) FSD will become as ubiquitous & just as irresistible. Look out for the exponential, when WS finally wakes up to this FACT. Forget regulatory approvals. What happens when regulators get a taste of “FSD Cough Medicine”! It’ll flip concerns for robotaxi acceptance on their heads! Think of the constant partying/entertainment traffic at all “off” hours! Think of the ads revenues generated by such “destinations” & to/from drinks/food services!! Imagine the new economies needed to support the new “ride to fun zones” businesses!!! F gang ridden public transport. The economic overflow will more than make those “desperation lifestyles” obsolete. F the FUD, just GO FOR IT!!!!
@hiimjonpaul
@hiimjonpaul 7 ай бұрын
I’ve never done FSD and yea, that first experience will be really important before I chillax and get on my phone and enjoy the ride
@JohnEAvenson
@JohnEAvenson 7 ай бұрын
Galli. About your question of when will we see the first cyber taxi service on the street -- i believe that the 7 story multi parking lot is not for employees but for building a large stock of taxi cars out of the factory and get enough stock in big numbers to suddenly fill a single city with enough cars to provide a good experience of instant availability.
@gohansaru7821
@gohansaru7821 7 ай бұрын
I'm a 737 pilot. Yesterday a lady at the gate told her husband she was so glad I have gray hair!
@johnbuchman4854
@johnbuchman4854 7 ай бұрын
Hopefully you never took any of the clot shots!
@gohansaru7821
@gohansaru7821 7 ай бұрын
@@johnbuchman4854 I did. My airline laid off any pilot who refused. I could not afford to go without pay. But those who refused won a lawsuit. I've had no side affects that I know of.
@dealerovski82
@dealerovski82 7 ай бұрын
Did you tell her the truth? 99% Autopilot.
@gohansaru7821
@gohansaru7821 7 ай бұрын
@@dealerovski82 Haha! Her husband was a pilot for Allegiant so she probably knows. But the real funny part was that it was only my 4th day flying as a captain (though I have 16,000 hours as co-pilot). I did not mention that.
@mfpears
@mfpears 7 ай бұрын
​@@johnbuchman4854 you know the virus caused more clots, right?
@AlanaMaiden
@AlanaMaiden 7 ай бұрын
40:01 .. amazing return.. thank you needed
@AlanaMaiden
@AlanaMaiden 7 ай бұрын
46:21 hmm..
@AlanaMaiden
@AlanaMaiden 7 ай бұрын
47:35
@AlanaMaiden
@AlanaMaiden 7 ай бұрын
49:20 inferance is human mechanic.. that's human remote drivers.. not ai
@AlanaMaiden
@AlanaMaiden 7 ай бұрын
😂😂 55:02 cinnamon rolls
@gordonlowe5405
@gordonlowe5405 7 ай бұрын
Gali's monorail tests were epic! It is good to see him on YT again!
@CalvinGrisham
@CalvinGrisham 7 ай бұрын
just a thought. what about releasing fsd fully and IF a corner case comes out and the internal computer cannot figure it out, for some reason, then have a ready employee dial in, very quickly, to solve it as a human? so car pulls over stops, asks for help from master base..:) and remote control fix.....should be very rare and doable if the corner cases are so rare.
@francoisdesbiens3886
@francoisdesbiens3886 7 ай бұрын
They could have a tesla taxi assistant on the screen live to talk to the new user for every new user that as never experience the robotaxi. It would help the user have a good first experience. Then if all good, you don't need to talk to the user next time around. Or replace the taxi assistant by ai after that.
@rogerstarkey5390
@rogerstarkey5390 7 ай бұрын
Why in the vehicle? You have that on your "Device" (Aka digital assistant/ "phone")
@sethmyers2396
@sethmyers2396 7 ай бұрын
Farzad. I think I speak for everyone when I say we love your videos and we are gonna need you to post that Sourdough recipe! 😊
@elgenio11ful
@elgenio11ful 7 ай бұрын
Hello Great video, you talk about your dad not liking how slow the car is, question for you… on the FSD settings, has he tried ASSERTIVE MODE?
@kennethlorenzo323
@kennethlorenzo323 7 ай бұрын
Great talk guys!😁. You had me bustin up on my walk today. Thank you for all your hard work and cool insights. It’s nice to get little nuggets and different perspectives.
@gxd4b1
@gxd4b1 7 ай бұрын
Clearly the smartest person in this room who thinks of the right questions to be asking at this time, is the guy who is holding his microphone.
@ExecutiveZombie
@ExecutiveZombie 7 ай бұрын
I love that he’s holding that performance mic!🎤💯
@JosephHurtsellers
@JosephHurtsellers 7 ай бұрын
I respect them all .. but actually think his questions are a little 2d ... Of Of course people are going to be frightened of it. Just imagine how people felt the first time they got on an airplane. Just my two cents... But I do think he adds tremendous value and the conversation would not be nearly as good without his perspective.
@jonbowes5999
@jonbowes5999 7 ай бұрын
Hey Farzad, I don't think it matters if FSD drives sedately WHEN working as a RoBoTaxi... The rider most likely won't be paying attention to the driving this is only an issue when used in SUPERVISED mode. Tesla isn't building FSD to be used in SUPERVISED mode, in fact Tesla isn't building FSD to be used in any way other than UNSUPERVISED! If I am correct the design of the dedicated vehicles will be such that the riders may not even be in a position to see the road ahead.
@ianmilham7397
@ianmilham7397 7 ай бұрын
On Gali’s “lack of accountability and lack of understanding”. Black box mystery intelligence, I do really think that having an integrated LLM as the interface to the car that we can use as direct communication. I would love to be able to tell the car to go around a slow person, or take an alternate route more known by locals, etc. being able to explain to the car and the car articulating choices back to you in conversation would be amazing
@hsiaohu2959
@hsiaohu2959 7 ай бұрын
If AI achieves agency, then perhaps we can program skin in the game in which it will die (“pull the plug”) if it does something dangerous
@chooksinthecity2586
@chooksinthecity2586 7 ай бұрын
Gali’s demo and intro video in the robo taxi is awesome. Non Tesla-ists need reassurance for sure. Friend were afraid just seeing the lack of dials in my Tesla. Young generation will be totally accepting - they born into the tech as magic age
@aaronbounds1336
@aaronbounds1336 7 ай бұрын
27:20- just black out all of the windows and put in a bigger TV screen: immersive home theater. People can watch a movie and then viola, they’re at their destination. People don’t even need to know or care to know what is happening outside of the vehicle. Same thing with a plane flight. No one but the pilot and copilot see or understand what is happening with a commercial plane flight, but they still get on it and they still land just fine.
@preeyakumari-i2q
@preeyakumari-i2q 7 ай бұрын
People will be throwing up in the back seat !
@513eis
@513eis 7 ай бұрын
Awesome discussion. I learned a lot. IMPORTANT Farzad! I have a friend who is a cyber security expert who told me she will never ride in a car controlled by software because it just a matter of time when you are in a car that just got hacked and instructed to do something scary. They can patch this but a LOT of damage could happen between the hack and the fix. This issue really needs to be addressed and WILL become an issue and could stall the cause significantly. Some type of failsafe needs to be developed to reassure riders/owners that this situation is safe. The answer is NOT how AI makes code that is hard for humans to "decode" and that updates happen "all the time". My friend said this code can be and is already hacked today ....using AI. Great show Farzad!
@beachcrow
@beachcrow 7 ай бұрын
Tesla holds regular "hackathons" for hackers to try to hack their software, they give away a car or significant cash as prizes for successful hacks. Smart way to catch a hack before it is fully developed or implemented for evil. Everyone has a "friend" who says crazy stuff.
@RichardSalmore
@RichardSalmore 7 ай бұрын
I've never heard of a neural net hack... yet. How many othe Teslas have been hacked? Attempts...Yes. Fact: Tesla pays hackers to find security issue. A few 6-figure payments and a couple of free cars later, haven't heard much!
@cathyk9197
@cathyk9197 7 ай бұрын
Tesla regularly runs zero-day-exploit hacking challenge events. World's best hackers compete for generous prizes trying to hack the latest Tesla software.
@513eis
@513eis 7 ай бұрын
@cathyk9197 hi Cathy. The fact that some can hack it every time is the issue. It will only take one or two gruesome accidents to kill all efforts. ...it shouldn’t but will. ...thanks to crap journalism.
@513eis
@513eis 7 ай бұрын
@@RichardSalmore hi Richard. There needs to be more information readily available from tesla about this to reassure the public. So much FUD... you know the vultures are circulating to monetize Tesla’s failures... perceived or not.
@XOXSUSIEQXOX
@XOXSUSIEQXOX 7 ай бұрын
He’s absolutely right about the speed being too quick and making passengers nervous. My mom loves the Tesla and wants me to drive full self driving every time we get in the car… But it does scare her sometimes! If you’re not holding the wheel or in control of the car, it just seems like it’s going too fast when it makes major transitions.
@lalithkx
@lalithkx 7 ай бұрын
I have been using my MYLR with FSD for ride share and educating people on the safety and goodness of FSD. It’s very educating to know that some people are shocked and some just take it in stride as if it is inevitable. I am loving it so far
@Limitless1717
@Limitless1717 7 ай бұрын
Gents… this was my fav episode to date. It’s fun to see you guys wrestling with the same things in wrestling with. So fun.
@utubeblackbat
@utubeblackbat 7 ай бұрын
Hey, anyone know if Tesla gives any notice at all even a few days if they are going to lower/ raise prices on a certain model??? Looking to get a model X but wondering if they will drop prices..thanks
@grzegorzkapica7930
@grzegorzkapica7930 7 ай бұрын
24:28 why does the car not have an aggressive and chill setting?
@damarismaldonadorivera5037
@damarismaldonadorivera5037 7 ай бұрын
THE BEST IS YET TO COME🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
@richiehart7858
@richiehart7858 7 ай бұрын
Farzad's argument at 12:10 is true. The only persuasive case against the random unexplained error being totally unacceptable is massive statistical proof that the frequency of such errors is so low that the benefit far outweighs the cost. FSD is not there yet, is much closer than it used to be and appears it will get there at some point.
@kevinplatt
@kevinplatt 7 ай бұрын
Rider's expectation...totally key and exactly what I was talking about today while driving with FSD.
@gohansaru7821
@gohansaru7821 7 ай бұрын
The game changer for me is when cars start talking to each other and coordinating their actions to avoid collisions. That's what modern airplanes do. See TCAS. If another Tesla "sees" my GPS location without vision or line-of-site we can't collide.
@zambrial
@zambrial 7 ай бұрын
I feel the conversation surrounding FSD and how the perception of safety is important is a really interesting one. My opinion is that as the system becomes more robust they will likely implement an algorithm based on your riding preferences using a rating system to suit you personally, which will help solve the subjective nature of user experience.
@ben-andyhein7497
@ben-andyhein7497 7 ай бұрын
A Waymo drove by on my side street yesterday afternoon in Hollywood, CA. No driver, couldn't see if there was a passenger. But it LOOKED like Robby the Robot! You know, 50's sci fi! A Tesla looks cool. Cybertruck just looks otherworldly on a city street or on the freeway. Can't wait for Cybercab!
@rb8049
@rb8049 7 ай бұрын
HW3 was designed in 2017. That is mind blowing that there was so much insight in the compute required in the end.
@Limitless1717
@Limitless1717 7 ай бұрын
“ tesla, come pick up my dog and bring her to the kennel for the day to play“. I need this. Especially today as I sit hear hungover 😅
@Cybertruck_69
@Cybertruck_69 7 ай бұрын
Someday hopefully there will be some sort of version to version autocorrect for things that have been solved in one version can be propagated into other versions. if it is a csv file, track changes and tweet those specific values in other versions? Sounds so easy. luckily the world has the amazing Tesla engineers to actually achieve this.
@greatcondor8678
@greatcondor8678 7 ай бұрын
Big problem I see now is traffic jams needing to get over 2 lanes to your exit. Sometimes you have to force cars to yield way.
@Roblafo
@Roblafo 7 ай бұрын
Gali is hilarious lmao
@jimparr01Utube
@jimparr01Utube 7 ай бұрын
It will be most interesting to see how FSD handles the middle of Paris and the middle of Rome. Good discussion you guys. Thank you for airing it.
@allfouryouandme5049
@allfouryouandme5049 7 ай бұрын
Gali is the best! His scheming is always 10/10
@teitpoulsen7183
@teitpoulsen7183 7 ай бұрын
How expensive is public transportation, bus, train and subway pr miles. How will Robota i compare?
@lesbendo6363
@lesbendo6363 7 ай бұрын
Driving style; After the first few turns, stopping and starting the car can ask the passenger for feed back and adjust accordingly. Then save in the passengers profile. Have a profile for each model taxi, Robo, M3 of MY. 🇨🇦
@angelamark9550
@angelamark9550 7 ай бұрын
Great program!
@slwiser1
@slwiser1 7 ай бұрын
How many miles per accident does Uber and Waymo show?
@mikafiltenborg7572
@mikafiltenborg7572 7 ай бұрын
15 miles😂
@2pdlpwr
@2pdlpwr 7 ай бұрын
Kinda like the judge in Delaware. Mistaken, with authority to wreck your life, because they have authority....! A loose cannon.
@andyonions7864
@andyonions7864 7 ай бұрын
Embodied AI brains will be amazing but the distributed latent compute power in all the cars is beyond supercomputer.
@howtoactuallyinvest
@howtoactuallyinvest 7 ай бұрын
I'm very interested in the day this starts being utilized
@flattackfirefly
@flattackfirefly 7 ай бұрын
Farzad, your counter points are just amazing. I just can’t see people not adopting this. Once the snowball starts it will be unstoppable. A whole new exponential curve, but an extremely steep one!!!
@zipp5398
@zipp5398 7 ай бұрын
Thanks for an interesting video although I didn’t understand all the acronyms. I did enjoy the video and found it somewhat informative. A thought pass through my mind. Wonder if Elon would ever sell FSD to other companies considering he’s putting it in his robots as well. Sounds like not just cars in the future. This could be used theoretically in the farm fields at harvest time so that farmers would not have to work 24 seven during harvest season, perhaps one day or it could be used to run a sprayer and monitor field conditions, such as laying out Roll before planting. These are the things that go through my head as I watch these videos in the morning before I get to work although this doesn’t benefit the majority it benefits the very hard-working, who don’t have time to do other things in life such as vacations because they’re running the type of job that requires constant monitoring and work. Thanks for a great video again. and a thought provoking one at that.
@christopherhale580
@christopherhale580 7 ай бұрын
I love Gali’s take on FSD. Refreshing
@513eis
@513eis 7 ай бұрын
Galli.... it would be much more efficient to deliver cinnamon rolls by drone. ;-D ....change cinnamon roll to something too heavy for drones.
@angelamark9550
@angelamark9550 7 ай бұрын
Great ideas dudes! One more idea to throw out for you: How cool and safe it will be if you can summon a Robotaxi that can take your kids to school ? That will eliminate the fears for parents who don’t trust strangers driving them.
@grzegorzkapica7930
@grzegorzkapica7930 7 ай бұрын
29:25 1. There will be enough customers. 2. We do need public approval. 3. 20% people will loose their jobs. Wages pressure will be huge.
@regaldridge4248
@regaldridge4248 7 ай бұрын
Just a thought. FSD needs massive and fast compute since it literally does not know “what is round the next corner” and is responsible for lives … whereas Optimus lives in a mostly predictable and well scoped task and physical environment. So Optimus might well manage perfectly well with more modest compute needing much less power? Of course Optimus may move from task environment A to task environment B, necessitating a learned “program” change . It’s all very exciting but I think that Optimus might be easier to solve than FSD once the physical aspects are completed, especially given the flying start already provided by FSD experience?
@NirvanaHalen
@NirvanaHalen 7 ай бұрын
Humanoid robots are NOT coming in your lifetime. They are simply too dangerous. Ever see videos of them? Do you ever see a human standing in close range? The servos in robotic technology are VERY powerful to articulate everything correctly. In other words if one of these bots grabs you and squeezes by mistake, bones are broken. A Tesla employee has already been hurt by one. Around pets and children? Not in this lifetime holmes.
@rorykeegan1895
@rorykeegan1895 7 ай бұрын
Happy to see Tim is selling his Tee Shirts successfully ....
@cathyk9197
@cathyk9197 7 ай бұрын
Tim Dodd sells the highest quality tee shirts across the entire Muskonomy related economy🥰
@AndrewRenaux
@AndrewRenaux 7 ай бұрын
24:33 Sub-model training of FSD based on geographic driving style might be useful. NYC vs Denver vs Seattle VS Mumbai VS Australia. The world doesn’t drive the same way.
@jimmy017
@jimmy017 7 ай бұрын
Good discussion
@Stockmonger4u
@Stockmonger4u 7 ай бұрын
Color changing skin ala BMW. Elegant and very Tesla. Advertisement is a huge money maker with this Robotaxi model. Putting an into video for the first year or two is a good idea, then have an in car advert loop which rider can bypass if paying a premium for ride, much like you do in KZbin and other services.
@cyberbull23
@cyberbull23 7 ай бұрын
Love having contrarian opinions on the show and taking through all scenarios. This is the way we solidify our beliefs in this great company. Bravo fam!
@QuietJugung
@QuietJugung 7 ай бұрын
It's a question of how safe it is for the government to make it legal. Passenger airplanes and cars were legal when by today's safety standards were horrendous. Countries will want to be the first to legalize it and accept failures to be ahead.
@steveedlund7357
@steveedlund7357 7 ай бұрын
I need to see actual results for FSD where I live in the Upper Midwest in snowy conditions with icy roads.
@jimmccall8030
@jimmccall8030 7 ай бұрын
Hardware 3 was first installed in model 3s in mid May 2019
@johnp.weiksnar6861
@johnp.weiksnar6861 7 ай бұрын
Super Chill Turtle Mode for beginner passengers FTW. . . .
@paulkuppinger458
@paulkuppinger458 7 ай бұрын
Great info. However, way too many commercials.
@wayofflow955
@wayofflow955 7 ай бұрын
If they make the cab super safe in a crash and probability of death in an accident it almost zero. People will take it all the time just for the safety aspects! If some how fsd fail the car are still crash safe for mortality, it’s a winner!
@hwillia204
@hwillia204 7 ай бұрын
Waymo has tons of equipment, Lidars, sensors, and cameras all over it, including people remotely controlling the cars that are not on a production scale.
@fix-hb1561
@fix-hb1561 7 ай бұрын
When?
@Cybertruck_69
@Cybertruck_69 7 ай бұрын
Chill should be more mellowed. Assertive should be more assertive. 👍🏻
@tfragia1
@tfragia1 7 ай бұрын
Cinnamon Rolls with Raisins Bro. 😂 1:01:20
@capestreasuresPtown
@capestreasuresPtown 7 ай бұрын
Great talk, thank you gentlemen!
@fractalelf7760
@fractalelf7760 7 ай бұрын
It’s still remarkable to me when people come up and say we only need current devoted task, fixed position robots. Yes the human form is not as efficient for one task, it is also true it is very, very good for generalized tasks and this is why humanoid robots have such potential and also allows humans to better accept them. No one wants to work with or interact with alternatively a giant metal crab for instance.
@2pdlpwr
@2pdlpwr 7 ай бұрын
Elon understands the Terminator side of this great Idea, the time of abundance. Let the bot take care of everthing. It starts with driving our car for us....................then whats next?
@larsnystrom6698
@larsnystrom6698 7 ай бұрын
The car doesn't learn, that's done in the center. But maybe the car could support that better. The car should be able to, just like a human driver, recognize that it has made a mistake. It would then upload that situation to the center, where it's used for improving it. Human interventions wouldn't then be needed for FSD's learning. These will also become fewer anyway, when FSD isn't supervised anymore. A few situations where FSD should recognize that it made a mistake: ;If another car drives out of turn because FSD is to slow to act. If another car with the right of way reacts because FSD is a hinder. It being honked! It's in the wrong lane for the planned path. It has to do drastic maneuvering to avoid something. It doesn't let another car in, and it does something dangerous. There's a lot of situations that FSD could identify as reasons for improving the driving. The next problem would be, how does FSD go about finding out how to avoid those situations in the first place, and how to get out of them if it did get into them. That's driving intelligence! I guess it's a while before FSD self-improve in this manner, thiugh, but if it did, it would become a super-driver!
@MarcoYolo420
@MarcoYolo420 7 ай бұрын
6:08 "HW5" is called "AI.5", right? _Elon Musk also officially announced Tesla’s FSD hardware 5.0, which he says Tesla is now calling “AI 5”. AI 5 is expected to hit the production lines for customer vehicles in approximately 18 months - around December 2025, with a massive slate of improvements. It is expected to be approximately 10x better than hardware 4.0, and up to 50x better in terms of inference power alone._
@ianh9772
@ianh9772 7 ай бұрын
You don't generally toss the weights when you do a model update, you'll 95% of the time doing Fine Tuning with new data if you've invested in RLHF through the Tesla driver team
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