First Cybertruck Reviews - “It’s Unbelievable!”

[@ken830]

If you're only going to watch one Cybertruck video, watch Jason Cammisa in the Hagerty podcast. Second-place would be the actual Hagerty Cybertruck video. Top Gear was good too. Not very technical, but they have great access to Lars and Franz. As much as I love MKBHD for honesty and production quality of their gadget videos, Marques and his team have ZERO engineering and deep technical knowledge -- Purely consumer-level gadget type of understanding. Watch their podcasts and you can tell instantly anytime something technical or even scientific comes up... Those guys are just too young and too inexperienced.

[@Wolftrap101]

I completely agree. That podcast with Jason was eye opening. I love how honest he was too.

[@Nil-js4bf]

​@@Wolftrap101 That was my general impression of MKBHD's review as well but to be fair, this isn't their main area of expertise and they didn't receive the engineering story that Jason received. So while they say the Cybertruck isn't really innovative on their podcast, which flies in the face of Jason marveling at the 48V architecture, steer by wire, toughness of the steel, wheel cover, etc, their impression is still more representative of what the average consumer would think.

[@genephipps6421]

The part where he gets a little dirt on his hands and is so shocked that he says "Get a shot of this". Man I just cringed. I know it's a generational thing but I'm not sure how anyone that uses their hands to make a living is not at least a little offended. Also not his audience I know. Clearly not a truck guy and that's fine.

[@Amuzic_Earth]

I agree with every single word of this comment..I was meaning to make the exact comment, but u beat me to it.

[@joe2mercs]

Agree entirely, MKBHD’s video is representative of what most (non engineer) consumers will experience and I found it both an honest and very positive assessment.

[@GrantHodgsonWnNZ]

Steer by wire makes making a RHD version of CT much easier!

[@RC-fp1tl]

Was thinking about this. Simplicity!

[@BenefitOfTheDoubtInquiry]

And any future model with an interior dash that doesn't need unique L or R components, meaning implementation would be simplified and expedited compared to the past.

[@paulf3353]

unlikely to be seen outside NA, unfortunately

[@goldenbeers88]

and the sharp corners make it illegal in the UK

[@joythought]

​@@paulf3353hope that's not true. Lots of pickup trucks in countries like Thailand. I am in Australia and have had one reserved since the unveiling 4 years ago. I think it would be great for Australia so long as it passes our rules which are similar to NA.

[@stefanherzberg1630]

Thank you again Rob. Since you started, you've been my favourite source of Tesla news and you still are. 👍

[@mt2nv1]

The Carmudgeon Show is a great KZbin channel. It’s average viewership generally maxes out below 20,000 views. The Cybertruck video is already at 154,000 views after 4 days. The other videos mentioned have 26 million views already. Great launch!

[@ianswayne7296]

Yep the truck is a dud sell sell sell and let me buy. Do

[@allengraham7407]

Not a great launch. This vehicle in theory exists as a production vehicle. By now EVERY major car reviewer would have been invited to test this vehicle over the course of days. The new Toyota Tacoma for example has been reviewed dozens of times with tons of objective feedback. Instead Tesla safeguards the cybertruck to 3 reviewers. Very frustrating and very disappointing by most metrics. Hard to imagine this was the best way to spend 4 years developing their next vehicle.

[@RC-fp1tl]

@@allengraham7407you sound like a) a shill b) you haven’t even watched the reviews

[@edwardhackett-jones8126]

@@allengraham7407it’s often entertaining watching people react. Tesla has been doing things their way for a long time now. I think we can agree they’re proving effective at it. Maybe they don’t agree with the old, stale, conventional way of doing things, do you think? Perhaps they think they have chosen a better course? If there’s one lesson we should all take from Tesla, it probably should be to not be afraid to do things differently.

[@edwardhackett-jones8126]

@@allengraham7407it’s often entertaining watching people react. Tesla has been doing things their way for a long time now. I think we can agree they’re proving effective at it. Maybe they don’t agree with the old, stale, conventional way of doing things, do you think? Perhaps they think they have chosen a better course? If there’s one lesson we should all take from Tesla, it probably should be to not be afraid to do things differently.

[@judedornisch4946]

Tesla seems to have figured out how to convert the skeptics. Just have them drive it.

[@mervstash3692]

😂😂😂 who has driven it other than a select group of Elon Tech Bro Stan's and some paid shills?

[@slowberries]

Guess you don't know who hagerty is...

[@mervstash3692]

@@slowberries paid shill obviously champ

[@dr-k1667]

Glad I caught your stream on the replay. The Jason Cammisa review was by far the most impressive for me. Skeptics of any Tesla product find it hard to remain so once they have EXPERIECED A TESLA... until then it's prejudice and bias taking hold. Butts in seats have been the defacto way to convert people into owners. I can't wait to see what happens with this truck!

[@leonardschoenborn9209]

I WANT ONE!!! This is a revolutionary, state-of-the-art, leading-edge technological masterpiece. To be clear, this is a "smart car". It is the "smart-phone" of automobiles. I saw one in-person today in a local showroom. This is a space-age truck, and really, a work of art. If you are the type to own a truck at all, you absolutely have to see it in person. According to test-drivers, it drives like a normal car. Attributes include extreme performance as well as high technology from front to back -- inside and outside, unequalled state-of-the-art suspension, drive-by-wire, great for recreation( it will easily tow a boat), it is virtually indestructible(even bulletproof/subsonic ammo), likely the safest truck/car on the road, and the list goes on.

[@dsong401]

There are also a couple of Carwow videos including one showing race vs Hummer EV as well as overall review (although not as in-depth as Jason Cammisa.)

[@ZeusBullyMax]

Also, they race the Rivian. Cyber truck crushing the hummer and the Rivian.

[@Urgelt]

Sandy Munro wants a CT to tear down. I wonder when he'll get his hands on one. I wonder if he'll run out of superlatives. The supply chain is all I'm worried about. CT will have demand aplenty even at the current price structure. But I do expect pricing to fall considerably once they reach mass-market scale. Couple years, maybe, if they can avoid supply chain breaks. Here's hoping! Thanks for your reporting, Rob.

[@Nil-js4bf]

If Tesla is confident with their build, shipping a CT to Munro for free would be a pretty good ROI in terms of advertising dollars. But then again, shipping it for free would also lead to justified concerns over the integrity of the breakdown. Even Jason said on the podcast that he didn't want to "bite the hand that feeds it" so he was preparing to give a purely informational video with his opinion left out, until being surprised that he loved the engineering that went into the vehicle.

[@rogerstarkey5390]

Will Sandy run out of superlatives? Only (maybe) if he doesn't get 2... 1 to drive, 1 to tear down

[@Urgelt]

@@Nil-js4bf Sandy does shill for companies that pay him. But I think his tear-downs are self-funded, or at least funded independent of the OEMs. Totally objective? Maybe not totally. I think he tries to say positive things wherever he can. He is wary of burning bridges. But glaring problems are usually exposed. And he has a child-like glee for truly-advanced engineering solutions. His tear-downs are illuminating.

[@tesla_tap]

@@Nil-js4bf- Tesla does not need any more "advertising" for the Cybertruck. With ~2M reservations, and maybe 50% will turn them into orders, it will be years before Tesla can satisfy demand. The truck is also better in just about every way than I expected, so even more people are going to want it. I'd love for Munro to get one and do the teardown, but I suspect that is a year away unless they pay a huge premium to get it earlier.

[@Nil-js4bf]

@@tesla_tap True, but the halo effect it brings to the company still makes it worthwhile.

[@davidradtke160]

The cyber truck delivery event was a bit of a let down, but the reviews have been informative and impressive.

[@TecnamTwin]

That was due to a credible active shooter threat. Actual event was supposed to be longer and more spectacular.

[@Jonny94669]

@@TecnamTwin I know about that threat, but where did you hear the original event was supposed to be longer? I haven't heard that anywhere?

[@henne2k]

If you have expectations, you will be disappointed…

[@mervstash3692]

​@@TecnamTwin😂😂😂 the copium

[@tesla_tap]

For me the gold was the factory tour, taking to Tesla employees, and seeing the Cybertruck up close and beyond the skin. I've seen a number of vehicle production lines, and the Cybertruck line looked better and is more advanced than any other - perhaps the best in the world.

[@pnketia]

In the Hagerty video it was very symbolic when they raced the CT against the Hummer EV as to how far of a lead Tesla has from an engineering, manufacturing and efficiency standpoint.

[@justbecause9645]

Against the Hummer but not the rest of the market!!!!

[@turningpoint4238]

Makes me laugh people worried about finger prints. The way into town for me starts with ~3km of dirt road, our vehicles are always caked in dirt (until it rains). Also have an old vehicle so I don't care about scratches, been places in my two wheel drive where 4x4 with all the gear couldn't get because they were worried about paint scratch's. When's it getting to Australia, although I'd quite like the smaller version there has been talk about, it's nice to be able to park in town.

[@hornethurdler]

Thanks!

[@TeslaDaily]

Thanks for the support!

[@JaiUneGuruDeja]

MKHB is a soft young man that makes mountains out of mole hills. I plan to take delivery in Austin and car camp my way back to California.

[@savedfaves]

He’s critical but fair.

[@garretreed9709]

You are brake, that’s a 24 hr drive. I suggest a purple seat cushion, best for long trips!

[@JaiUneGuruDeja]

@@garretreed9709 not if you zig zag

[@kipling1957]

“The art” in this context refers to the wisdom of crafting something. It’s a common usage so I’ve no idea why Rob felt the need to differentiate it from art, as in visual style.

[@madhououinkyoma]

I don’t see any issue with him clarifying. Clearly some people could misunderstand, everyone is not you.

[@jaykay1852]

I think Tesla rolled this out very well having given a CT to some of the honest YT reviewers. Great reviews. Will need to wait for a few thousand deliveries to get a real jury verdict. I want to test drive the CT, but I’m sure that like the S3XY models before it, I will love it too, even though I’m not a truck driver-never owned one before. Bet some R1T, Lightning, Hummer owners flip.

[@mervstash3692]

😂😂😂 honest reviewers? Literally all Elon Tech Bros

[@DBLewisOrlando]

@@mervstash3692 6:25 He hated everything about the Cybertruck going in......until he drove it. And he's not a fanboy of Elon. The truck is better than he thought.

[@mervstash3692]

@WowmobileOrlando dude that wasn't a review. That was 100% a paid ad just like the Top Gear one. Lol come on. Zero substance about the actual details of the vehicle & more about drag racing. Filters & VFX to fool the simple minded. Bit like how they used to smudge the lens to make old ladies look less wrinkly back in the day. The details he does give, he gloats over features he had huge issues with previously in other cars. You can't take his "review" seriously. They will clearly shill anything for the right price.

[@kagazuki]

I hope Sandy Munroe doesn't get a heart attack from excitement when tearing down the CT.

[@harrychu650]

Spoke to someone with an older Model S and he says he got the call for his CT Reservation from the Mount Kisco Delivery Center. He said he is going with the dual motor. Seems like they are working to get them delivered. Let's see how it goes.

[@tesla_tap]

For those that get thier cars covered in ice, just turn on the heater remotely for 10-15 minutes and all that ice should slide off before you even get in. It's a nice feature all Teslas have and you're car is nice and toasty when you get in.

[@kevtheobald]

Interesting to have Tesla Central Valley Owners Club members sharing pictures of what look like customer Cybertrucks in the cities of Tracy and Manteca already. For those not sure where those cities are, just know they are near the Lathrop Tesla factory and not that far away from Fremont. These Cybertrucks were spotted at shopping centers. I do think for residents of California, Cybertruck will be a more common thing to see by the end of 2024. I do think as people see them around, the styling will become less offensive. I am not thinking people will go from hating the looks to loving it, but trucks are often consider more of a tool and it is how useful a tool is that is usually the important thing.

[@alexgreen7096]

Possibly employees testing? Or a couple employees got theirs as well?

[@tesla_tap]

Cybertrucks have been around here for the least 3-4 weeks (Palo Alto to Sunnyvale). Not common, but I see different ones every 3-4 days. These are not customer cars but various pre-production cars being tested by employees. The production ones I saw at the factory have great fit and finish. Some of the pre-production ones I've seen up close were not perfect, but not bad either. I talked to one owner who got his at officially at the factory event, and they are shipping it to his address here in CA. He expects it in 1-2 weeks. So I think it will be another week before we see really production units in Northren CA.

[@Beachtrader0007]

The stock followed the market the following day. Most stocks were down post CT day. That event was terrible. Barely any details and musk standing in the bed in a shadow for most of it was unimpressive. I was pleased with pricing and stats. Also, I show ford losing 36k for every lightning and rivian loses 35k for their trucks. Curious to see margin on the CT

[@matthewwall2509]

Musk needed to explain that the event was powered by a Cyber Truck. I wish they presented this. They need Fords production crew.

[@tesla_tap]

Agree that the presentation was not that thrilling, but the objective is not to get more orders that can't fulfill for 2-4 years. If anything, I suspect they would have liked to do no promotion at all. As for the behind the scenes - seeing the factory production line, that was far more interesting. Clearly, other automakers have a lot to learn from Tesla. Those that are unwilling to learn will not be with us in the long term.

[@Harrythehun]

What happened with the CT at Tesla stores? Sold and delivered or are the doors opened now?

[@tesla_tap]

Those are production demos, and I they are not for sale. Those stores without a Cybertruck should be getting one in the next 2-3 weeks. In the past, this is how Tesla has rolled out new releases. The stores get a copy early to show, and then after quite few deliveries, maybe 6-months later, they get more copies to allow test rides.

[@cordeauxboi]

Thanks Rob! Generous comments about the reviews other than Hagerty, I thought they were lame in comparison, that they essentially missed or misconstrued the product.

[@toddashton9696]

Can't wait for this tech to trickle down to other Tesla Models. As they said on the Jason Cammisa podcast, I would love to get this tech in a vehicle I actually want to buy (like an SUV)

[@tesla_tap]

While Tesla seems to be mum on it, I can bet we'll see 48V show up on future Teslas, the new ethernet bus, along with packs with 4860 cells to more of the line (currently used in some Modely Y RWD). Not sure about drive by wire, as the hardware looks expensive, fairly large and weighty. Perhaps in the S/X, but doubtful in the 3/Y unless it can be made smaller and cheaper. One huge advantage of drive-by-wire, it greatly reduces the differences between the LHD and RHD varients.

[@danapeck5382]

Thanks, great summary, appreciate the links. All the best

[@corylohanlon]

As a Clevelander I just caught wind of Lincoln Electric entering the EV charger market, so that's exciting to have in my backyard :)

[@universeisundernoobligatio3283]

Spitting a battery into 2 400V packs for parallel 400V charging, there is no need for a 250kW 400v to 800V DC/DC converter. Saves cost, weight, power loss and improves reliability.

[@tesla_tap]

A very smart move. Sort of surprising everyone else went with a low power 400v to 800v converter that charges really slowly.

[@universeisundernoobligatio3283]

​@@tesla_tap Just a few simple contractors and a control system, far simpler then a high power DC/DC converter.

[@madhououinkyoma]

How would you know if they’re doing one vs the other?

[@universeisundernoobligatio3283]

@@madhououinkyoma The loud contractor closing sounds as you start charging at 400VDC.

[@tesla_tap]

@@madhououinkyoma- When they have very slow charging at 400V CCS stations (many stations cannot do 800V). For example, Lucid can only charge at 50 kW at 400V, which is rather pathetic. They have expensive electronics to upconvert 400v to 900v that the the battery they designed requires. They really missed the boat on this part of the design (but they did many other things right).

[@BjorckBengt]

The Model Y is the worlds best selling car. The Cybertruck will become the worlds best selling pickup truck.

[@penderic3415]

Could be the safest pickup on the market. Time will tell and hopefully, insurance rates to follow.

[@garretreed9709]

Curious about what insurance companies are thinking cause another cost to consider

[@RootBeerGMT]

Oddly enough, you apparently pay double to insure a Tesla.

[@t.r.766]

@@RootBeerGMTin CA its much less to insure through tesla. eventually it will insure worldwide . It’s less than any other company.

[@trequor]

​@@RootBeerGMTNot odd at all. Insurance is a scam

[@tesla_tap]

@@RootBeerGMT- Guess it depends on how many crashes you've been in? My rate is about the same as my prior similarly priced ICE car, but then I don't have any crashes! I didn't opt for the Tesla insurance, but others claim it is about 2/3s the cost of the big guys. I like being in the safest car made. Should I ever get into a crash, replacing metal is cheap, replacing bodies, not so much.

[@tryantoheal]

Tesla still going to deliver more cybertrucks than GMs Hummer this year🤣

[@wolfgangpreier9160]

Ha ha ha 🤦🏻

[@johnpoldo8817]

Tesla will deliver more Cybertrucks than Ford with Lightning.

[@mathewherges397]

Energy storage from Tesla is the real thing to watch, imo. I think of it like a train, that they are just building up inertia with these first large projects. The fact that every project will have greater value to the bottom line over time an beyond just the deployment phase is the real value. The grid scale battery is undeniably the way to go and there is little emotion and "style" to it. It isn't finicky or fickle. It will be the profit that just keeps coming.

[@tacoyaky8872]

Ice isn't going to be a problem at all. You can literally take a sledge hammer and have at it.

[@madhououinkyoma]

Lmao, funny point. Next quest: finding a sledgehammer.

[@rog351]

The Cybertruck is so unique and has a practical capability. However, at this point it is not for me but there are at least two features I especially like. The Drive-by-Wire ability is so terrific where you can get a full wheel turn by only moving the steering wheel about one half turn. Also, the steering wheel itself is fabulous in that it is somewhat square and you can more clearly see over the steering wheel. You can also easily place your hands on the mostly flat top part of the wheel for a better position to drive as well as to comfortably rest your hands down on the mostly flat bottom part of the wheel while in FSD or just cruising without it on…… so Terrific …. It would be Great if TESLA would offer these features on all of their vehicles. I am hopeful the new items will be available for the line up in the near future.

[@santadam]

Thanks, Rob!

[@Dularr]

The basic trim Lightnings are setting. It's the $75,000 trims sitting on the lots.

[@robertide5182]

And those basic trim ones are the ones losing money for Ford. So what’s the point from a business perspective?

[@Dularr]

@@robertide5182 well at least they are acting like compliance cars. Help them avoid the billion in fines. Just run the numbers. Determine the number of compliance cars you sell at a loss to offset the ICE fines.

[@jamesmarinelli2177]

I got an idea for fingerprints prevention I’m wrapping mine in red with white flaming hot flames in front. Keeping the black wheel wells and black bottom trim.

[@banon7853]

Why doesn’t anyone understand the cybertruck’s technological development is paying for all of the cost-lowering technologies they want to use on the $25,000 car.

[@SpaceTravel1776]

48 volt and what else? Be specific or stop blowing smoke.

[@allengraham7407]

Yeah….OR they could have just developed this technology in a vehicle that will actually push numbers from the start, and adopt that technology to an extremely niche vehicle (cybertruck) that won’t put a dent in overall truck sales. Don’t believe me? Ask Elon. 250,000 trucks a year? Whoopee doo! ICE truck sales are 2,000,000 a year

[@ZeusBullyMax]

Drive-by wire.

[@skip181sg]

⁠​⁠@@SpaceTravel1776 Scaling 4680s Greater extent of gigacastings Drive by wire 48v Out of the box assembly Just for starters

[@banon7853]

And @spacetravel1776 be like “so you developed the warp engine, and?“ HAHA LOL Yes, that was such a small deal, they mailed a 48V PDF how to manual of it to every electronics auto supplier, and the auto OEMs around the world.

[@marknevar8234]

Are the Lightening sales to consumers or to dealerships? My local Ford dealers are overloaded with them.

[@blakespower]

its a gimmick keep supplies low so they get free advertisement from the media. then the 2nd year they produce more. they did the same thing with the Ps5 and blamed Covid

[@gnatural]

i dont care what anyone says the Matte Black cybertruck is going to be the sickest looking truck on the road.

[@wolfgangpreier9160]

I must disagree. Mine will be the slickest one. Pink wrap with yellow polka dots. Perfect urban camouflage.

[@Jastro407]

I must disagree. Mine will be the slickest one. Fuchsia wrapped so whenever I go to my CT I will go back to the Fuschia.

[@wolfgangpreier9160]

@@Jastro407 👍👍👍Perfect choice for the future blade runner UAW.

[@RichardPeterShon]

Cybertruck 800V - Charges better - Future ready OTA - Greate software Steel is extremely hard. It's used on SpaceX shuttles. Uses the best long life battery created to date - 4680 Torque is out of this world 5 star safety.

[@creatorgenerator1998]

I love the Cybertruck but I reserved it @ $49K. That's now $79K. I have to contend with Canadian exchange (x1.35) plus duty of 6.5%. I'm retired. I was going to sell my SR+ & hopefully scrape together some money. It's off my list.

[@andrecarvalho9637]

Price will go down a lot in the next 2 years

[@jonathannagela2130]

buy it and offer a local business to wrap it for you with their logo= your truck is free.@@andrecarvalho9637

[@BreakneckTrent]

Same situation.. $TSLA is my Cybertruck piggy bank.. I'm ~315k on the list. Stock should be higher by then... Keeping my reservations 👍

[@jonathannagela2130]

sell the reservation if you got in early

[@jonathannagela2130]

it wont with this economy vote TGrump and itll be good.@@andrecarvalho9637

[@guringai]

SEC,- State Electricity Commission

[@mullholand]

"And one more thing." Man.. it is hard to believe that there is always one more thing at Tesla events because that Roadster rolling out of the Tesla Semi trailer was just epic... I know it is wishful thinking but I truly thought a one more thing come was going to happen with a "Model 2" rolling out of a Cybertruck trailer...... The event was too short for the viewers. I think the people who went had a BLAST! But the people watching it live.... was a little let down as they should have went into details about the CAN Bus / 48v architecture and show off those locking front and rear diffs on a crazy cool rock climb.....

[@johnpoldo8817]

Can someone explain where they get a 48 volt battery for the low voltage system? Is it 4-small 12V batteries in series or did Tesla develop a 48 V lithium battery? You won’t find 48 V batteries in parts catalogs.

[@jkn6644]

I guess they make their own 48V Lithium battery.

[@tesla_tap]

I looked at the 48V battery last week, and It has a Tesla part number on it, but so does the current 16v lithium unit in the S/X/Y. The 48v package is quite small, and only offers 4 Ah (< 200W). I belive the 16v unit is made by CATL for Tesla, but Tesla might have gone in-house for the new 48v unit like so many other components. It is not off the shelf.

[@BjorckBengt]

If you want to smooth the edges it should be easily done with some emery cloth..

[@per619]

What's the Cybertruck production estimate for 2024??

[@fredbloggs5902]

They vary, my estimate is 100,000 produced by YE 2024 with a 250k/year run rate.

[@cordeauxboi]

I wondered if you could clarify about V4 superchargers? I heard Kyle from out of spec reviews say that there are no actual V4 superchargers yet, as all the stations so far use V3 infrastructure. Meaning all the V4 so far are new dispensers but no new charging specs. Is that your understanding?

[@rogerstarkey5390]

Not YET. Kyle DID demonstrate that after the latest OTA update, his Plaid was charging at better than 240kWh to at least 40% (that was all he needed) and peaked at 262. Makes me wonder if there's going to be an upgrade very soon?

[@markwindsor914]

AUTO-LEVELLING? With the Basecamper being used, can a CyberTruck use its air suspension to self-level (within reason) to give a level platform for camping? Seems obvious, so they must have thought of this. Have they? Anyone know?

[@tesla_tap]

Possible, but the current design/software is talking about auto-leveling the truck wheels to the cab, not leveling on unlevel ground. There are sensors on each wheel to determine the ride height. Seems like it might be a possible future option and/or manual left/right/front/back control. Anyway, cool idea.

[@markwindsor914]

RH Drive - even with "steer by wire" making LH / RH easier, the wiper blade and asymmetric windscreen will make this conversion quite hard. Will they make it?

[@tesla_tap]

It's on the order page in Australia, so yes, I expect they plan to make a RH version. Seems the design has both LHD and RHD versions in mind. Note that Tesla does not sell the S/X anymore in Australia when they stopped making the RHD version.

[@tomharrington3195]

I think the CT is a technological breakthrough and Tesla will be able to take what they developed and apply it to other cars in the line. Even if it undersells a bit ( I don't think that) it will always pay off with what they have developed and can apply.

[@raxzore]

Reply to 09:30 about CT Sharp Edges: Hagerty actually ripped his shirt arm and cut himself on a CT sharp edge in his review video on timestamp 20.24, enable their official English subtitles on his video to see this info. (NOT the autogenerated subtitles!) 🙂

[@fredbloggs5902]

It was a pre-production vehicle.

[@lylestavast7652]

have we seen a set of figures on actual road kwhr/mile stats yet ?

[@michaelgibson1938]

How to engineer 48v vehicle pdf to everyone... Could it be once other car co's do this, Tesla will be able to lic their hardware/software without compatability issues

[@davidws5439]

Could this work? Epoxy paint is the preferred coating system for stainless steel. It requires additional preparation and care over that of water based and oil based paints, however they are extremely tough and durable, and if applies correctly have excellent paint adhesion.

[@edwardhackett-jones8126]

Isn’t the point of stainless that not only is it strong but it just doesn’t need coating?

[@fredbloggs5902]

Seems pretty pointless to me.

[@davidws5439]

@edwardhackett-jones8126 That is NOT the question. If you wanted a color, would the paint work.

[@davidws5439]

@@fredbloggs5902 That was not the question. Will the paint work?

[@fredbloggs5902]

@@davidws5439 You might need to roughen the surface first, also weight is an important factor for EVs so you might want to consider that.

[@minsunkim813]

I think Cybertruck it’s really cool , and price is very good for what they offer.

[@trequor]

Tesla is just doing things differently. Any other company would be working round the clock to patent 48V schematics. Tesla just sends out free pdfs saying "Alright this is how it's done"

[@paouvous]

Tesla China sales 82K while same month last year was a record 100K. I think this should me mentioned. Things are tough in China, and China is over 50% of the global EV market.

[@edwardhackett-jones8126]

The question is why? Has Tesla considered the situation and as a result decided to concentrate on exports? Or was it the plan anyway to start the 3 refresh in export markets? Will China sales in December end up being stunningly strong?

[@adrianpbaxter4071]

We need more FUD to keep the price low....I'm on a budget.

[@gnatural]

they should give the cybertuck to police officers lol

[@garretreed9709]

Nah, conspiracy theorists would say they are militarizing the police

[@fredbloggs5902]

They are an obvious use case.

[@dang2055]

If you have more than a half inch of ice on your vehicle….maybe just don’t go anywhere? 😂.

[@tesla_tap]

Also you can remotely turn on the heater for 10-15 minutes and all that ice will slide off before you try and open the door.

[@johnpublicprofile6261]

DELIVERIES IN TEXAS? I thought that, quite ironically, Texan dealership extortion protection laws meant that Tesla can not deliver cars to customers in Texas. Don't Texans have to receive vehicles out of state or at indigenous reservations? Perhaps there is a loophole for cars made in-state, otherwise the factory delivery event would be illegal.

[@nielp91]

Is the EV tax credit a one time thing? Or can I used it to by a car this year then one more next year?

[@davidradtke160]

You can buy more then one car this year is my understanding if you want to. It’s per car not per buyer.

[@leogala1402]

CT is gonna kick some a....s!💪

[@rui569]

Top Gear's 40 min long review is very telling. Maybe a handful of vehicles got a 40 min review.

[@mervstash3692]

Yes it definitely didnt have anything to do with paying more

[@rui569]

did Porsche pay more for the 2023's 911 GT3 RS 40 min reveal with it's head engineer? @@mervstash3692

[@jamesmarinelli2177]

I never test drove my model y before I bought it, I knew it was a dam nice car and would blow my mind. 2 years later I still love it, love not paying for gas! Love it cause I have solar so I don’t pay for fuel. Cmon ICE people let’s move on already what the hell are you waiting for gas prices to come down give me a freakin break! I know I WONT need to test drive the cybertruck and will do same just buy it without test driving.

[@omerpearl4252]

Hey, About the economic calander we got this Friday the unemployment report that could form a problem because the effect of weak numbers could be much worse than good numbers I.e better economy. So not a risk reward compeling going into the report imo

[@zaphodbeeblebrox2817]

I wonder if it has any normal steel structural components or if it's all rust proof(essentially)

[@grahammonk8013]

The internal door jambs are regular steel, or at least not thick cold rolled steel, as they are stamped and you can't stamp that stuff.

[@TheBandit7613]

No body shop will touch that thing. Stainless is tough to work with. That's probably why it's so ugly.

[@fredbloggs5902]

@@TheBandit7613The panels are swappable.

[@myronp243]

Analysts and the drop in stock after the event was a usual let down.. Most feel the Cybertruck is a very limited selling vehicle.

[@tesla_tap]

Stock almost always goes down after a Tesla event. Seems like market manipulation and/or the vast number of Tesla haters in the press, who don't get any advertising dollars from Tesla.

[@hearmeout1966]

Rivian is just getting started. Great brand. Great vehicles and technology. Tesla didn’t get here overnight.

[@rogerstarkey5390]

Didn't they "start" at about the same time?

[@NickWainwright6970]

Good vehicles, but will they run out of money before they start making money ?

[@tesla_tap]

@@NickWainwright6970- Rivian is in the best position of the EV startups. I don't see them having a problem. They still have billions in cash. Far more than Tesla had at the same time of life.

[@yschlussel]

I’m not sure where on earth you will be in a situation of 1/2 inch of ice on a door let alone a whole inch. 1/2 inch layer of ice is a MASSIVE amount of ice! (I live in Wisconsin and have some experience)

[@ivodrinkovic1659]

when cybertruck for europe?

[@bekind2047]

Never - there is no real market for cars like it (size).

[@madhououinkyoma]

It most likely won’t pass the safety standards

[@ivodrinkovic1659]

ohh you would be amazed. I am in Croatia on the island Hvar. Everyone has at least one pick up@@bekind2047

[@ivodrinkovic1659]

how then big trucks pass the safty? @@madhououinkyoma

[@madhououinkyoma]

@@ivodrinkovic1659 It's been mentioned in the reviews that the cybertruck hood panel isn't soft enough for collisions.

[@ryszardjankowski1517]

it can be cleaned with a refrigerator care product

[@westcoast8562]

THE PRICE SHOULD BE TWENTY PERCENT MORE FOR THE CYBER TURKS TRUCKS

[@casperhansen826]

Please, fix your caps lock

[@fgeiger41]

Brownlee knows controversy drives clicks. He was nitpicking to find things to complain about. Like talking about fingerprints on the door when protective film could be added there for little or nothing. Nevermind the fact that pickups (which the CT is much more than) in most use cases aren't clean.

[@henne2k]

Felt so wrong. Like if he reviewed an excavator. „So you see fingerprints on this“

[@fgeiger41]

@@henne2k I was hoping it wasn't just me that noticed.

[@johnmacri7440]

WD40 is a great stainless cleaner

[@shuriken4852]

Regarding the sharp edges, I may be wrong, but the way I understand it, these reviewers did not have a production version, so maybe that the finish was not as great.

[@garretreed9709]

In the top gear video, one of the designers / engineers they did mention that they tried to minimize the sharp edges but may need to reduce it more

[@fredbloggs5902]

Correct

[@tesla_tap]

I didn't see/feel any sharp edges on a production Cybertrick, but I didn't go feeling every edge. At the event, an engineer did say they have to round the edges, so perhaps they missed an edge on the pre-production unit.

[@stevemizera3891]

Had orders fir two but as I live off-grid and no way to charge, the 300 mike range is a deal breaker. Klamath Falls OR is 135 miles the nearest charger. When you cant charge over 80% or below 20% the range is actually 150 miles if you dont use AC or heat. Bug disappointment ftom 500

[@HughButler35]

Half a single car garage of solar provides 12,000 miles of range. Put $6k more solar.

[@mearino]

You definitely need the range extender.

[@madhououinkyoma]

I have no idea why you’re making wrong claims about battery usage limits. You can easily do 95-5% when needed. And you can still charge from home. Just get more solar.

[@TroyRubert]

Elon Sandy interview is out!

[@RootBeerGMT]

Tesla fan, stockholder. Dont own the car. Saw the cybertruck in Tampa. Impressive appearance-but hugely disappointing as to range. Considering the price, it’s so far below what the original specs were supposed to be-it’s just shocking. 267 miles? 300 miles? Call it whatever you want--but people who drive large trucks and SUVs expect 400 miles of range.

[@tesla_tap]

Tesla does have a range extender for 470 miles of range. Fairly close to the original 500 mile range. The hope is in 2-3 years the battery tech will continue to improve and Tesla will get to that 500 mile mark.

[@S_Padival]

Most important revelation was Jason pointing out that the Cybertruck maintained its 2.6 sec 0-60mph even at battery just below 50% and no preconditioning was necessary for Beast mode. Imagine what the 4680 Cybercell would do in a Plaid! 🤯

[@ken830]

Plaid+ drivetrain in a Roadster.

[@allengraham7407]

Impressive? Yes. Will that do anything to drive sales or make this a practically more desirable vehicle for prospective truck buyers? Well, I guess time will tell. Hook up a 6,000 pound travel trailer and watch towing range drop to 150 miles with no charging network equipped to handle truck and trailer charging. Overall IMHO a very cool niche vehicle for sure. But beyond that, this ain’t it.

[@tesla_tap]

@@allengraham7407- You forget that 90% of pickup trucks are never used for towing. For that matter, around hear they are rarely used for hauling anything. Mostly they are used just as a vehicle to get from one spot to another. Cybertruck, while is fine for towing and hauling, I expect similar numbers - most just want a great truck and might, once a year, haul crap to the dump.

[@S_Padival]

@@allengraham7407 please comprehend what I wrote. I.e. 4680 battery in a Plaid.

[@goldenbeers88]

No one is talking about Cybertruck being illegal in the EU. Other than changing the sharp edges law itself or changing the Cybertruck design - to somehow round out the corners - I guess with a panel redesign and a mixture of hardened and thin stamped steal for the corners- the market will always be confined to countries with less robust pedestrian safety regulations, like the US.

[@bekind2047]

This CT is not for Europe. They are not prepared for normal trucks and will never be. But the technology changes under the hood are for the whole world. We should see this in the next Tesla models.

[@tesla_tap]

@@bekind2047- I agree. Then again, maybe Tesla can install a huge airbag in the front of the car for Europe. Likley too little market in Europe for large pickups to even bother to think about making it compliant.

[@goldenbeers88]

@@bekind2047 RE: not for Europe - not true in the UK, every 10-20th vehicle going past my house is an American style pickup

[@goldenbeers88]

@@tesla_tap airbags on the outside, not good if you're under 12.. unless it senses how big you are, possible but years of development and a change in law needed... easier just to redevelop the truck itself to comply.

[@Microsization]

Does it float? Does it have MW charging as the semi supposed to have? Things Elon said about the Cybertruck and I didn't hear anybody mention yet.

[@fredbloggs5902]

Nobody cares if it floats. The old VW Beetle allegedly floats but that’s not why people bought them.

[@Microsization]

@@fredbloggs5902 Elon cared. I don't really care but I'm curious.

[@tesla_tap]

Doesn't float. It has 350 kW charging ability on a V4 Supercharger (just being introduced) - more than any other EV. 250 kW charging on existing V3 Superchargers. Not enough batteries to handle MW charging like the Semi, which uses a different charging standard.

[@RogerWilsonTodd]

As of today, Dec 4, Tesla is less than 28 days from Level 4 autonomy. It’s true! At 4m25s into the July 6 KZbin video entitled “Elon Musk's Full Speech at the 2023 World Artificial Intelligence Conference”, listen to Musk PLAINLY SAY Tesla's FSD is "very close" to being able to operate without human intervention and speculate FSD will reach Level 4 or Level 5 autonomy BEFORE END OF 2023. With this MOST CURRENT autonomy timeframe provided by Tesla, are YOU excited about reaching Level 4 before this New Year’s Day?

[@alanmodia]

Fingers and toes and thumbs crossed. Just do it.🎊 🎉

[@madhououinkyoma]

Dude… give it up

[@eddiejohanson9064]

Why go trought the Stock daily? its long term investment.

[@senthilkumar8704]

It is now more about how Tesla will use these technological advancements like steer by wire, 48 v and other in the existing (S3XY) cars and the new (25K) cars. It will help them to reduce the over all cost to produce the car.

[@mpenlandmoto]

Literally no edges require touching the panels with your fingers. 😂

[@Joe_Brig]

No one is talking about how this is an odd release. The only "reviews" are from the access media or are just superficial.

[@turkishhusla]

MKBHD is not a car reviewer, Tesla made a mistake giving him one, horrible production value on his review, definitely not characteristic for him

[@savedfaves]

He’s a car reviewer in the sense that he reviews cars. But you want someone with more knowledge than him. I actually like his car reviews because he sometimes can look at things from a unique every-man POV. The Top Gear guy said some inaccurate things such as “has the driving dynamics of a Porsche 911“. Marquez doesn’t lie like that. That’s one thing people like about his reviews.

[@bekind2047]

At least he reached ‚some‘ people.

[@drrightwing4435]

Hhhmmm, I wonder if this Tesla shareholder is gonna like the cybertruck? It’s such a mystery lol

[@billsrelectric]

You can buy a nicely equipped Lariat Lightning now, or you can wait 3 years and buy the Cybertruck. That is significant factor in making a decision.

[@alexnutcasio936]

Or you can buy a Rivian for about $90k…….

[@AR-rn8ok]

Good things are worth waiting for.

[@ZeusBullyMax]

Lariat😅

[@TecnamTwin]

And some have done exactly that.

[@bekind2047]

Get the Lariat now for the next three years - might shorten your wait time on a psychological level - and then enjoy finally the future.

[@scanspeak00]

Car reviewers arent going to bite the hand that feeds them so of course their reviews will be very biased and you should treat them skeptically.

[@fredbloggs5902]

Top Gear’s entire m.o. has always been ‘biting the hand that feeds them’, you’re clueless.

[@JDLuke]

I want a range extender powerwall

[@tesla_tap]

It's available today! Just add another Powerwall to your existing Powerwall!

[@jonathannumer5415]

I like MKBHD but he was coming at it from a macbook pro consumer perspective.

[@fredbloggs5902]

True, but they’ve likely to be a significant percentage of buyers.

[@Cdictator]

I need a cyber hatchback 😢

[@alexnutcasio936]

Those who own stainless appliances will attest that it can be a nightmare to maintain the looks of it. Fingerprints in particular are a forever battle. As to reviews, Marques was review lite and Jason’s was more exciting from an engineering viewpoint. Jason Cammisa for the win.

[@jonathannagela2130]

I THINK ELON WAS AN IDIOT WANTING THE STAINLESS. But it doesnnt seem to be an issue to me if they would throw non stainless into the press and make painted versions.

[@ZeusBullyMax]

Use WD-40 on a rag and quit your whining

[@mearino]

​@@ZeusBullyMaxThis. Leave a car outside for a day and see how much cleaning it will need

[@dudermcdudeface3674]

Matte wraps will be in high demand eventually because of the fingerprint problem.

[@edwardhackett-jones8126]

I’m not convinced that many people will care. If you’re buying a vehicle as gorgeously hideous as this, I don’t think fingerprints are a problem. To be clear - I mean gorgeous. It’s a stunner, and I love it, but it’s not intended to be a beauty. Marks and blemishes are just a part of the aesthetic.

[@MathGPT]

MKBHD himself is awesome, but his lame orbiter friends are the worst beta males ever

[@shepherdsknoll]

One thing no one is talking about - the Cybertruck is being built with the HW 4 gpu

[@ken830]

HW4 is not a GPU. It's an inference accelerator.

[@mjmbishop]

🚑🚒🚔🚓 everytime sirens

[@locofurioso]

But the real deal will be Gordon Johnson's opinion on it.

[@handlealreadytaken]

Biased hand picked reviews are no better than a KZbinr dedicated to pumping the stock. The sheep here know how to follow their master.

[@digitaldreamer8637]

You know how it works. Elon promises the world. The sheep never bite the hand that feeds them. Rinse. Repeat. 🤦🏽‍♂️