Smart Summon is SHOCKING... is it a Scam?! - Tesla Model 3 V11 Update 2023

[@chally113]

Smart Summon in the U.S. is so much better, the EU just has such stupid restrictions. You can't even let it drive to you, what's the point? Regular summon makes sense, but smart? We gonna need some changes for the UK.

[@paulf3353]

Would be nice if it would work at all. As per video, even sitting in the car it is crap.

[@TeslaDriver]

Honestly I haven’t seen many good examples even in the US that isn’t in some super setup or favorable scenario… the distance part makes it 100% useless but even say in the car it can’t figure it out. Such a shame.

[@chally113]

Agreed, however smart summon picked me up through the drop of line at my school with my cousin's model x perfectly. Must just be luck.@@TeslaDriver

[@dzonikg]

UK is not in EU

[@srenhansen1983]

It’s not the EU that regulates this! It is UNECE (part of United Nations).

[@NattyFlump]

We recently got a Model Y with enhanced autopilot and one of the reasons behind that upgrade is my disabled partner. Figured the advertised summon, smart summon and autopark would make life easier - none of it works on vision cars. Also my fault for not checking what those features would even do in the UK, the distance limitations mean I could at least walk the car when I take the dog out? Navigate on autopilot is useful though so I'm still happy with the enhanced autopilot overall. I love the Model Y but it's definitely been a let down in terms of feature set, at least if you go by what Tesla claim versus reality. Keep up the great content! Edit: Should have added that the new 'high fidelity park assist' that rolled out to vision cars has been a big improvement over the wiggly lines of doom we had before. I've been more confident parking the car in tight spaces since the update, just having the object persistence in the display makes it far more usable. Not as good as sensors, but closer.

[@JonathanEvans-l7d]

Tight car parking? so someone can wack your door? just park further out if you can.

[@JellyLancelot]

All EAP functions should be in basic AP at this point. It’s not worth the £3500 extra and a lot of the competition have things like auto park as standard

[@yurikislytsia8596]

Atm tesla slaps EAP on used certified cars sold on its website so it is unlikely tesla to remove such marketing tool as EAP.

[@firmbutton6485]

I’m in france and my autopilot can’t even get round a corner at 50mph without ending up on the wrong side of the road and often bugs out. Is it the same in the uk or is this another EU fail?

[@TeslaDriver]

Same over here, I can tell if a corner is too tight and have to rapidly reduce the speed manually otherwise it goes over the line and panics :/

[@mallamal5578]

I believe this is stipulated by the eu. Legislators need to catch up with the technology. In the usa they are using fsd with neural nets, which is superb. In Europe we are still using c++ coded autopiot/fsd. Hopefully it will be in Europe next year and you'll see a massive improvement.

[@fidgetspinner343]

Haha, It was only this morning I looked at your old videos and saw how many views the original video of this had. Absolutely amazing (5 million+!!!!)

[@chorltondragon]

This has never worked for me. Even the roll forward / roll back feature. Like you said, that might be useful for getting into or out of tight spaces. My 23 Y just can't.

[@thorbjrnhellehaven5766]

The largest problem I have with "smart" summon is how stupid the routing it choses. Going forward and backward many times taking detours, running out of "maximum distance" rather than go straight for it. I would love to have some options for steering with normal summon. Because straight line isn't always good. Would also love to have option to drive and steer the car like normal summon, with trailer. Would be great to be able to stand otside with better view while reversing with trailer, rather than having an extra person telling me where to go. I want to be that person just telling the car where to go.

[@billbrown69]

You ever tried the unattended park feature? Pretty sure we dont even get it over here but you can double tap the end of the stalk when its in park, choose forward or back, get out the car and it should pull into the space/garage etc.

[@TeslaDriver]

Wait is this a real thing?! Never heard of it, so double tap park on the end of the stalk and choose a direction? Will see and let you know

[@billbrown69]

@@TeslaDriver Yeah neither had I until a few weeks ago when another youtuber I watch in the states demonstrated it. I've not had the bottle to try it on mine yet in case it drives into a wall.

[@macharris4211]

Great to see you making videos again man! Well done.

[@TeslaDriver]

Thank you! Hopefully positive update videos soon… 😅

[@mil3761]

Agreed, smart summon in UK is useless. It's not Tesla's fault, it's down to silly EU/UK regulation.

[@mwng93]

The summon forwards and reverse is good but I live on a hill so sometimes it thinks my drive is too steep or suddenly it’s completely fine. I’m not sure on maximum angle

[@johans7119]

Regulators: "We don't like new things."

[@EsotericArctos]

Given GPS is only accurate to within 1 to 2 meters, and GPS is part of how it know where you are on the map, this Smart Summon is useless if only within 6 feet, which is just under 1.8 meters in metric. Standard forward/back is good to get the car out of a tight car park, but the smart summon is useless with restrictions on it.

[@London_Native]

Good to see you back making videos, I’ve been subbed since you started your channel and I enjoy a fellow Brit’s perspective on Tesla! There aren’t many channels who offer that, to be honest, you are the only one I know about! Anyway, I how you and your family have a very Merry Christmas! 🎄

[@QuickProgramming]

The fact that you had to put a disclaimer "dont hate me. this is just an honest opinion" shows just how out of control the tesla fun boys are. You shouldnt have to put that in a normal world

[@Jonathantuba]

What gets me is the UK Brexited to escape the shackles of the EU, but we still have to abide all their silly rules, but have none of the benefits, so we’ve gained nothing. I can’t help thinking that TESLA is being stopped from implementing improvements to FSD in Europe to protect the German car manufacturers from competition, not that it’s really working with the Tesla model Y still being the best selling car in Europe.

[@yurikislytsia8596]

​@@tatata1543Tesla was a leader in ADAS at the time when Mercedes did not even have a compelling EV. The EU rule probably slowed the autopilot development in EU just enough for competition to catch up as the gap was in years not decades so lobbying theory has some merit

[@dzonikg]

Still EU has most anoying law that will be from jun 2024 but even now is implement in new cars,its that line keep and speed warning are default ON when you start a car EVERY TIME. I drived few new cars and is crazy annoying and to turn it off you got to navigate in menus in touch screen EVERY Time. So i dont thing i want new car in EU any more

[@ItsBinhRepaired]

6 feet is a very short distance. You were over a car's length away... that's about 15 feet... lol

is it an EU rule or an UNECE reg ?

[@srenhansen1983]

Exactly. EU is not regulating this - UNECE is.

[@TeslaDriver]

Both are Europe based so easier to say EU rule, but yes full rule is a United Nations Economic Commission for Europe rule…

[@rongt859]

A guy in Canada has a repair bill for the car his Tesla Y scraped when he summoned it , Tesla said its his problem , so dont try this in a crowded car park , its an amusing party trick but to risky for the real world

[@jmmmcc]

We need another option on the Tesla menu we have toybox we have theatre we need a chocolate teapot menu because the summon and full self drive are a joke

[@Warekiwi]

Identical experience to mine (2022 MYLR) A completely useless function here in the uk!

[@TeslaDriver]

I’m embarrassed to use it truth be told 🫣

[@craighill6034]

@@TeslaDriverThe worst part is when you take your finger off the forward button and it drives another 3 metres before stopping!

[@paulf3353]

Tbh, even normal summon didn't work for me few times I've actually need it or tested it... This is complete scam feature

[@TeslaDriver]

Either it won’t connect or if there’s anything in its path (even a good 10-20m away) it just says nope 😅

[@Uchejnr]

If you haven’t already. Those creaks could be the upper control arms needed to be replaced. From experience they can be replaced by a mobile appointment.

[@TeslaDriver]

Had them replaced last month 😬

[@Uchejnr]

@@TeslaDriver fair enough 😂😂😂. Yeah I’d schedule another mobile appointment to see what else needs swapping

[@shanedavis9166]

As I've said before I'm not yet a Tesla driver, so might sound an idiot statement. You say summon is now BT. Am I right in saying the phone key works on BT? If so how far are you from the car when it locks / unlocks? That would be the distance summon would work? Or am I totally up the wrong tree lolol

[@mountainbikingrockclimbing7348]

in this case is "smashing" good?

[@JonPriston-u5f]

The only time I ever use smart summon is pulling the car out of a tight parking spot. You still have to be so close to the car to make it work though, it's pretty useless really

[@paulaskew8224]

Recently got a model y. While I’m very happy with it, I’m certainly glad I didn’t stump up the extra money for the enhanced autopilot.

[@Lonestartroy1]

Have a 2023 Y and paid for auto summon. 6 months later still do not have it. Elon is full of it. How do you sell something you do not have. Love my car, wish I had never paid for advanced features. Look at how many people that got Christmas update and messed up some features or bricked their car.

[@jimmybaker4821]

We need FSD v12. The old technology will never bring us there imo.

[@wrightfamily4373]

My brother has just brought a Tesla purely for the summon and being electric he can easily charge at home as refueling is a knightmare for him. He’s disabled often cars block him in as result he can’t get in he as result has then had to find random people to get his car out to enable him To get in however he doesn’t have pedals so most drivers won’t as it’s not easy if you don’t know how to drive

[@ptodd1306]

It’s not EU Regs. It’s UNECE. Hence why UK is a member post Brexit.

[@pkerry12]

I think its just bad in highly populated countries. In Australia it works great

[@Apemania69]

Normal summon: i wish tesla make it so it only need bluetooth of the phone and no internet connection. so it work also on contested network and underground parking spaces. that way tesla would remain the EU law distance and make sure it works flaweless everytime. sadly tesla doesnt do it yet. Nio on the other hand does it exactly like i said.

[@user-yt-13245]

can the summon also escape from thieves?

[@TeslaDriver]

Rule 1 of robotics, the thief would just have to stand infront of it and that’s checkmate 😂

[@Chrissssssssssssssssssss]

It's obviously got s forward bug and won't work..

[@Reprint001]

Maybe they're using the other meaning of smart: feel or cause a sharp stinging pain. In your wallet I guess. 🤷🏼‍♂️

[@Andersljungberg]

you should not have to use the mobile phone to park the car. Have you not read the instructions on how to do it? Otherwise there are probably instructions on KZbin

[@TeslaDriver]

Please elaborate, smart summon and summon is used only via your phone so I’m not sure what you are talking about?? If your talking about normal auto park then yes you don’t use your phone for that (I’m not showing that in this video this is only about summon) but under the smart summon information it says it can park itself via smart summon aswell as un-park. Which instructions are you talking about or link me the KZbin video that your talking about but I’m pretty sure your confusing standard auto park with smart summon 👍🏽

[@Patriot3]

I drive from the parking lot everday to my office door. Its not great but chicks dig it.

[@martincday007]

Is it fair to say that it is the EU's fault? On this demonstration Tesla should withdraw the feature from the EU market because even though it is being asked to do something less complicated than the original feature it is not even close. If Tesla think this standard of feature is acceptable then it is not surprising that the EU have restricted its use.

[@TeslaDriver]

Yes and no… the most simple feature of going back and forth for example should work every time flawlessly as it’s very simple but sadly even that is 50/50 whether it will work properly. Like in the demonstration at the end of the video where it hits a curb and continues to reverse a few seconds after I have let go of the button. But the restrictions to distance is defo the regulators fault, however they seem to have done it for the correct reason as when I use the feature even in the vehicle it isn’t able to do the most simple of task…

[@martincday007]

@@TeslaDriver "Restriction to distance is defo the regulators fault" but the regulators need to be convinced something is safe before they allow it. I have never seen the summoned feature work flawlessly in the UK or US it is experimental. It has been promising rather than good and "promising" should not acceptable on public roads. The regulators don't have an interest in the car manufactures testing their wares out on the public road so therefore will and should restrict them until they can be convinced that they are safe. In this case they seem to be correct because any manufacturer should be ashamed of releasing this system and charging for it because it clearly does not work. If it is "because" of them having to use blutooth, or the the regulations that is no excuse. I am impressed at the advances that have been made in autonomous driving, but they are still nowhere near level 3 let alone level 5. It's lack of ability to adjust for snow and ice for example. If they keep developing they will get there but probably not for another couple of years. In the meantime regulations ensure the safety of non-Tesla customers who are not signed up members of the experiment. It is not much different to the drone regulations where unless there is line of sight a special license is required. Maybe try combining a drone with the summon feature, and have the drone guide the car? It is strange though that the summon feature works so poorly as is it not just a by-product of the self-driving, the same thing but with the driver outside the vehicle?

[@nigelcox1451]

You are the definition of optimism.

[@softwarephil1709]

But wait… Elon plans to delete the steering wheel soon.

[@hairadditions]

Mine has never even remotely worked properly. Elon Mush should watch this and I wonder what he would say.

[@TeslaDriver]

He’s seen other videos of mine and commented, never one showing something that isn’t working as advertised though 🤔

[@quickpstuts412]

No doubt he sees all these videos, also the gazillion ones about the wipers that have gotten worse over time. He doesn't care as long as sales are high. Sad.

[@mamba_no_5]

It probably did slightly better than I imagined but it's still not great.

[@RamonSmits]

Ive tested this myself numerous times. The auto park feature since it is vision+uss is complete shit most times

[@RamonSmits]

Btw, in have an S100D with HW3. I really miss the times the features were actually useful. Yes, we had Phantom brakes but at least we had somewhat working features....

[@RamonSmits]

What I also hate is that it very often turns the wheels while standing still... Yeah... Complete shiiit

[@RamonSmits]

I'm pretty sure here outside US we are at a insanely old version stack that isn't developed at all and only receives further restrictions when EU wants and Tesla doing the minimal to comply because it absolutely does not have their priority

[@RamonSmits]

Btw, smart summon never parks. Also not in the US

[@TeslaDriver]

Yeh this is a feature I’d actually use if it worked like advertised… I can imagine in a S it being a lot tougher with the extra size of the car. The wheels turning while still also kills me inside!

[@orangespill]

such a shame. one of the cool elements just make it look stupid...

[@sparky6996]

I think this what happens when rule makers dont tjink....again. its a brilliant idea and would have been perfect for me. Sadly now...il just walk to tge car if i had one which i dont because it doesnt work. Love Tesla hope they get abwork around

[@b.davies9716]

Lol, yep. Definitely the EU's fault 😂😂😂😂😂😂 Nothing to do with the fact it was shit tech to start with.

[@dzonikg]

This is beyond useless

[@LordLightborn]

This is so bad, at least it doesn't run you over lol.

[@TeslaDriver]

It was touch and go for a bit, o thought it was going to give me a lil kiss! 😂

[@user-zx8hm2yg9c]

9

[@Poxenium]

first