Tess Romaniak's Story Reveals How Truly Unchristian is the Love that Jehovah's Witnesses Practice.

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@Dottiesmith1958
@Dottiesmith1958 5 ай бұрын
I wanted to give an update because so many have reached out and have been nothing but kind and supportive. I was hesitant because I do not want any of my former Jehovah’s Witness “friends” knowing my business and you never know who looks at things on these kinds of public platforms. My surgery went great and I am cancer free! Thank you for all of your prayers. After my surgery, it was found that I only had pre-cancer in my uterus. I had a complete hysterectomy and I do not need any follow-up care. While my family and I are over the moon, I am struggling with the fact that a gynecologist and oncologist told me that I had cancer, before waiting for final pathology results. My family and I were a mess. But I am so happy for my future and my relationship with Christ is what really got me through it. Also, I found out who my true friends are ❤️🙏
@linzbn4179
@linzbn4179 4 ай бұрын
Wishing you all the best
@A_British_woman
@A_British_woman 4 ай бұрын
All the best! Your story was very moving.
@Leafrench1
@Leafrench1 2 ай бұрын
Hi Tess, so glad you are cancer free and doing good. I left a controlling church group in about 1993, and some Witnesses showed up my doorstep. Then I started studying with them. To make a long story short, I was baptized and faded away. I am still dealing with them because I never disassociated myself and I was not disfellowshipped. I too found out about the UN, child abuse, stocks they own in Lockheed Martin, and Pfizer. This I feel like is the reason they wanted the witnesses to take the vaccine. There is a lot of money to be made there. Basically, the witnesses are slaves to the governing body. It's crazy how they can call the shots of what they teach and can change beliefs anytime they desire. I know they told us at the kingdom hall when there was "new light" to just accept it until you can believe it. They must really think we are stupid.
@ThatBlueSponge
@ThatBlueSponge 23 күн бұрын
So glad Tess you are well! I’m just going through all these amazing and motivating interviews in the channel which give me courage to do the things I need to do in order to follow my Lord. Keep moving forward! 👏👏👏
@jojojoe3231
@jojojoe3231 6 ай бұрын
Hello Tess I so relate to this❤ I love when you said that Jehovah scooped you up when you were left on your own. I felt the same way and I am so thankful for his love❤ Thank you for sharing your story and I'll be praying for you to have a quick recovery my dear sister ❣️
@marcieebaby
@marcieebaby 8 ай бұрын
I can really relate to Tess. I live in the UK and I was a Jehovah’s Witness for over 30 years and a regular pioneer for 10 years. I left during the lockdown after the pushing of the experimental health product from the platform via the governing body. I just couldn’t go along with this and I woke up after starting to research. I discovered so much including the membership of the UN, the Australian Royal Commission, the occult connections, and the incredible lack of love of those in the organisation. I send lots of love to Tess and I am a true Christian now and I’m so glad that I know the truth, and the truth had set me free from the Watchtower.❤
@Dottiesmith1958
@Dottiesmith1958 8 ай бұрын
@BeroeanVoices
@BeroeanVoices 8 ай бұрын
@marcieebaby - thank you for sharing your experience.
@infoplus9733
@infoplus9733 8 ай бұрын
I was in the organization a short time my mom is a long timer ad still in but I am sure she has doubts now because of the pressure to get the jab(which we are both opposed to)
@marcieebaby
@marcieebaby 8 ай бұрын
@@infoplus9733 yes I very come to realise that many were opposed to it and many left as a result of it.
@michaelsamuel6299
@michaelsamuel6299 7 ай бұрын
Hi, I was raised a Jehovah’s witness myself. My grandmother, grandfather., mother, and father were witnesses until they passed away. I woke up a few years ago after reading both of Raymond Franz's books. I am familiar with the United Nations membership, but I'm surprised to read about the OCCULT. Could you point me to where I could get information regarding that? This is the first time I'm hearing of their connection with the OCCULT. I'm speechless.
@karenlsaunders
@karenlsaunders 8 ай бұрын
Beautiful experience dear Tess and I really love how you woke up. So encouraging. This interview will help so many to wake up. Thanks so much to you and Eric ❤
@Dottiesmith1958
@Dottiesmith1958 8 ай бұрын
Thank you, Karen!
@antonio8677
@antonio8677 8 ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing Tess. May our Heavenly Father continue to bless and sustain you and your family. From South Africa.
@Dottiesmith1958
@Dottiesmith1958 8 ай бұрын
Thank you ❤️
@ismaelamadot3893
@ismaelamadot3893 8 ай бұрын
Brother Eric and dear sister Tess. Good morning. Great interview. This will help many people wake up. If they are sincere and really love Jehovah and Christ. Jehovah has abandoned the witnesses and is exposing them. Carry on and continue in your fine labor. Your reward is great. Many blessings from Jehovah and Christ. Ismael, Kingdom Christian from sunny ☀️ Puerto Rico.
@Dottiesmith1958
@Dottiesmith1958 8 ай бұрын
Yes. A person must love Jehovah and Jesus more than staying in an organization ruled by men that slander them.
@mamajan99
@mamajan99 8 ай бұрын
Who wouldn't love you Tess? We are so glad to have you and Thomas in Christ's family. That can never be taken away from you!🙏 And Thank you Eric for you tireless work in building up Christ's body and finding so many lost sheep. "Love one another intensely from the heart." "O, You have cancer? Well have a good day." How can that "elder" even sleep at night? They fight so hard to keep up their facade of righteousness. But I know better. I already saw this movie. Matthew 15:14: "Disregard them! They are blind guides." Jn 13: 35 "All will know that you are My disciples, if you love one another."
@Dottiesmith1958
@Dottiesmith1958 8 ай бұрын
@EvandaNichols-ty2fy
@EvandaNichols-ty2fy 8 ай бұрын
I joined the zoom meeting today for the first time. Afterward, I heard many asking about Tess. I’m happy I listened to this interview; I feel like I now know a little about you. I very much enjoyed your experience, Tess. Thank you for sharing! It takes courage to tell what you went through.
@Dottiesmith1958
@Dottiesmith1958 8 ай бұрын
Thank you so much, I really appreciate it. I have found so much comfort and support from my brothers and sisters. I hope you will join us again because it is so upbuilding and there’s genuine love there.❤️ @EvandaNichols
@thelightgetsbrighterexjw3084
@thelightgetsbrighterexjw3084 8 ай бұрын
Thank you Eric and Tess for sharing this amazing interview! ❤❤❤
@john6903
@john6903 8 ай бұрын
Mother baptizing son ❤ Son baptizing mother ❤ Awesome Awesome Awesome ❤ What a great bond. (the tissue in my hand is soaking wet). Best wishes with the surgery.
@Dottiesmith1958
@Dottiesmith1958 8 ай бұрын
❤️
@58divagirl
@58divagirl 8 ай бұрын
Go Tess great interview, you are so strong and spiritual . You handled your situation so wonderfully, thank you for sharing and I am so happy to be your sister!!!!
@Dottiesmith1958
@Dottiesmith1958 8 ай бұрын
@Nosaphira
@Nosaphira 5 ай бұрын
Praying for you, Tess, my genuine sister in Christ. We have just begun attending, too. 🙏🙏❤️‍🩹❤️‍🩹❤️
@paulsaunders9286
@paulsaunders9286 8 ай бұрын
Wonderful Tess, lovely to hear your journey to the Christ...you are an inspiration, may the Lord and our Father carry you on the wings of 💕
@Dottiesmith1958
@Dottiesmith1958 8 ай бұрын
Thank you, Paul. Loved your interview too! You and Karen are such a loving couple. ❤️
@SusanneEigenheer
@SusanneEigenheer 8 ай бұрын
❤Dear Tess❤ It was so wonderful, streghtend to hear your testemony. I'm so happy to know you by seing you every Sunday at the upbilding meetings and also to know you pesonaly. May your and Thomases way of geting out of that cult, weak up also many others. I will pray for your health. I Love you Tess❤ ❤And thanks as well to you Eric and Wendy, for all you loving work you do❤
@BeroeanVoices
@BeroeanVoices 8 ай бұрын
@user-th4dy2sj5f- thank you so much for your kind and loving thoughts!
@Dottiesmith1958
@Dottiesmith1958 8 ай бұрын
Thank you ❤️
@sramdeojohn4428
@sramdeojohn4428 8 ай бұрын
Thanks for your patience and time for making these videos available. 👏🙂I learn alot from this channel. ❤🏆
@CindyinArizona
@CindyinArizona 8 ай бұрын
That was a very interesting and moving experience. The end was beautiful, baptizing each other. Thank you, Tess, for sharing your story and I'm praying for you to have a complete recovery from cancer.
@Dottiesmith1958
@Dottiesmith1958 8 ай бұрын
Thank you ❤️
@aiercooledengine
@aiercooledengine 8 ай бұрын
Tess, Eric, thankyou for this wonderful interview and witness for the Christ. By contrast the callousness of the organization of Jehovah's Witnesses is revealed. Seeing you and your son baptizing each other was truly special, the glasses 👓 came off and the tissues came up. My prayers 🙏 will be for you to have a good outcome with your diagnosis, again thankyou for your faith 🙏.
@Dottiesmith1958
@Dottiesmith1958 8 ай бұрын
Thank you so much, aiercooled! I love your comments and insights at our Christian gatherings!! ❤️
@diogenesthecynic9951
@diogenesthecynic9951 8 ай бұрын
Our prayers are with you. ❤
@Dottiesmith1958
@Dottiesmith1958 8 ай бұрын
🙏
@moonbeamstry5321
@moonbeamstry5321 8 ай бұрын
🙏
@gabrielkoncowski1403
@gabrielkoncowski1403 8 ай бұрын
Hello beautiful tess thanks for sharing. We love you from England ❤. You are wonderful and we are grateful for helping us. Christian love ❤️
@Dottiesmith1958
@Dottiesmith1958 8 ай бұрын
Thank you!❤️
@marvelprince9893
@marvelprince9893 8 ай бұрын
Excellent, thank you for sharing this interview.
@brightsky5586
@brightsky5586 8 ай бұрын
I'm so happy you took control of the narrative. You texted everyone in the congregation, then the Elders. 😂 That's wonderful. I will pray for your recovery! ❤
@Dottiesmith1958
@Dottiesmith1958 8 ай бұрын
❤️
@thrumyeyesmt.6344
@thrumyeyesmt.6344 8 ай бұрын
Thank you so much! Prayers 🤲
@Dottiesmith1958
@Dottiesmith1958 8 ай бұрын
Thank you ❤️
@dawnbehatin1224
@dawnbehatin1224 8 ай бұрын
Thank you SOOOO MUCH for sharing your experiences 🙏!!! Was soooo encouraging to me!! ❤
@Dottiesmith1958
@Dottiesmith1958 8 ай бұрын
Wonderful! ❤️
@SandraMKrahn
@SandraMKrahn 8 ай бұрын
Thank you for that wonderful interview. It helps me to put some of the things in my life in perspective.
@Dottiesmith1958
@Dottiesmith1958 8 ай бұрын
@katb945
@katb945 2 ай бұрын
Thank you Tess for sharing your story your love of truth and desire to know Christ and becoming a child of God gave you the strength to speak boldly and stand up and leave a fruitless organization so very encouraging for many and so pleased you are free of any cancer and recovery having true brothers and sisters friend and a sure hope for the future is a blessing.
@RobbieJayOne
@RobbieJayOne 6 ай бұрын
I left 30 years ago and just found about the UN. Learning this three decades later made me angry. It’s an unbelievable betrayal.
@Smashingblouse
@Smashingblouse 2 ай бұрын
Can you explain the UN thing please? 🫶🏻
@RobbieJayOne
@RobbieJayOne 2 ай бұрын
@@Smashingblouse Between 1992 and 2001, WBTS was associated with the UN as a Non-Governmental Organization. Historically, the JWs have criticized the League of Nations and the UN, referring to the UN as the Wild Beast in Revelation. Thus, having a relationship with the UN is considered hypocritical based on their beliefs. However, during 1992-2001, there was a softening of the JW stance towards the UN in articles published in Awake magazines. This change was due to the need for NGOs to promote the goodwill of the UN. The WBTS ended their association with the UN as soon as they became aware that "The Guardian," an international newspaper, was going to expose their hypocrisy.
@Smashingblouse
@Smashingblouse 2 ай бұрын
@@RobbieJayOne thank you for that. I don’t suppose you’ve heard of any occult connections? Somewhere on this thread a lady has said about it but not explained…. 🤷🏻‍♀️ @marcieebaby is the lady that mentions it on here.
@RobbieJayOne
@RobbieJayOne 2 ай бұрын
@@Smashingblouse No. I was a JW from 1970-1994. Watchtower's official position was that anything to do with the occult is from satan and his demons. During my time with them I heard nothing to make me believe otherwise. But now I've learned more about Russell’s fascination with pyramids and looking at the covers of old late 1890’s-1910’s Watchtower magazine, I'm not so sure what they were up to. It seems kind of masonic and taro card looking to me now. But again, as a practicing witness I stayed away from all things occult.
@squishysirenita
@squishysirenita 8 ай бұрын
The sheer fact that you got ahead of the elders and sent the mass text to so many before they announced you was priceless!!! 💪 What a move!! Way to go!! I was cheering for you!🎉 I hope I get to do the same someday. Sending you love and praying for you my dear unknown TRUE sister🙏❤
@BeroeanVoices
@BeroeanVoices 8 ай бұрын
@squishysirenita - Thank you for your wonderful comment. We all hope that you can do the same, as you say, someday.
@Dottiesmith1958
@Dottiesmith1958 8 ай бұрын
❤️❤️
@BlackHoleOfTime
@BlackHoleOfTime 8 ай бұрын
You handled yourself very well. Smart girl.
@Dottiesmith1958
@Dottiesmith1958 8 ай бұрын
Thank you ❤️
@andrearoberts4833
@andrearoberts4833 5 ай бұрын
Lots of love tess ❤❤.
@phil6740
@phil6740 8 ай бұрын
Another great interview. Tess is very level headed and conscientious.
@Dottiesmith1958
@Dottiesmith1958 8 ай бұрын
Thank you ❤️
@StefWokeUp
@StefWokeUp 8 ай бұрын
Hi from Stef Woke Up Channel. Great interview!
@Dottiesmith1958
@Dottiesmith1958 8 ай бұрын
Thank you ❤️
@desertboot9755
@desertboot9755 5 ай бұрын
Oh, this was so sad. Tess and Thomas, my love to you both.
@Dottiesmith1958
@Dottiesmith1958 4 ай бұрын
Thank you ❤
@Genesis_3v15
@Genesis_3v15 8 ай бұрын
Beautifully sincere, intelligent and sharp, our sister, Tess. Thank you for sharing your journey and experience. Are we to presume that your sister-in-law is now pioneering full time from your comment at 37:44 ? 🤭 At 55:49 this is exactly what I was discussing with my sister earlier today. It amazes me the common denominators of how different people wake up to watchtower; so many similarities; certainly things I can relate to. Thanks again for sharing these things and thanks again to Eric. Seeing the joy of the Holy Spirit being experienced by ones that have managed to maintain faith is a wonderful thing. All the very best Tess, on your journey and in the treatment to get you feeling better.
@Dottiesmith1958
@Dottiesmith1958 8 ай бұрын
😂😂My sister in-law is smarter than me. She found it interesting, yet comical, I believe.
@trilithon108
@trilithon108 5 ай бұрын
That last scripture should make JWs sit up about being unloving murderers😮 All the best with your surgery, Tess, and may the Blessings of God be with you. 🎉
@bryn6000
@bryn6000 8 ай бұрын
Sorry to hear of the trial you're going through, Tess. You'll be in our thoughts and prayers. Glad you made it out of that dreadful organisation which many regard as a cult.
@Dottiesmith1958
@Dottiesmith1958 8 ай бұрын
Thank you. ❤️It fits all of the criteria for being a cult.
@thetruthk5138
@thetruthk5138 8 ай бұрын
Love the Matthew 11 v 28 NKJV For my yoke is easy and my load is light true Christianity relaxing refreshing and uplifting. Watchtower take note not burdensome and heavy its truly freedom not attending multiple meetings field service ect ect ...
@Dottiesmith1958
@Dottiesmith1958 8 ай бұрын
@BlackHoleOfTime
@BlackHoleOfTime 8 ай бұрын
Wow that elder was checking if you were visiting someone so he could possibly council them i bet.
@Dottiesmith1958
@Dottiesmith1958 8 ай бұрын
I didn’t think about that 😮
@denyhaynes31
@denyhaynes31 8 ай бұрын
👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
@Sn0wflake.1
@Sn0wflake.1 8 ай бұрын
❤️🙏❤️
@markusmalerei1
@markusmalerei1 8 ай бұрын
Dear Eric, please can you get in the Translater thank you…
@BeroeanVoices
@BeroeanVoices 8 ай бұрын
@markusmalerei1 - please tell me which language you would like. I am sorry for taking so long to get back to you.
@Darrinnewlife
@Darrinnewlife 4 ай бұрын
I'm going through this same thing to.
@Dottiesmith1958
@Dottiesmith1958 4 ай бұрын
Stay strong and keep your faith. ❤
@ErinMalczewski
@ErinMalczewski 6 ай бұрын
Regarding the cancer please research Turkey Tail mushrooms
@kerrydwyer1879
@kerrydwyer1879 5 ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing what the goat shaped demons did to you. It will strengthen others
@connormusic9274
@connormusic9274 7 күн бұрын
At 16: 23 minutes in Tess says, "and I started reading the scripture and the context and realized that , that scripture doesn't align with the paragraph's thought at all!"...Exactly! In the past few years when I would sometimes follow along with a Watchtower study topic, I would start looking up scriptures that were cited in the paragraph, and I would think to myself, "Is this the best scripture the writers could come up with to back their point?? Are these guys Biblical morons? Do they actually read the context of the text to make sure it is not misapplied?? NO!! And that summarizes what this new generation of writers and governing body members have become over the past 2 decades particularly: Cherry pickers of words and phrases taken out of context!! (I'm an ex-JW for 55 years; ex MS, Elder, Bethelite, pioneer, Regional Building overseer,..etc. .so a long time deep student of the Bible; but always learning as many are!)
@northernexposure8622
@northernexposure8622 8 ай бұрын
A most special interview!! Dear Tess & Thomas (we're literally next door neighbors). 1 Question however😊,,Is Thomas like 6'8", and plays with the MW Bucks?
@Dottiesmith1958
@Dottiesmith1958 8 ай бұрын
No, he is not.😊Next door? I don’t understand. 🤷‍♀️
@northernexposure8622
@northernexposure8622 8 ай бұрын
Oh, I exaggerated a bit.😁Not actually next door, I'm actually 100 or so miles up North ...so we're virtual neighbors? Just kidding, I know Thomas is too young to play with the Bucs, but he is really tall. @@Dottiesmith1958
@Dottiesmith1958
@Dottiesmith1958 8 ай бұрын
@@northernexposure8622My next door neighbor doesn’t put up Christmas decorations so I wasn’t sure if I was living next to a PIMO witness 😂😂
@jackiepowell7513
@jackiepowell7513 Ай бұрын
My bio sister whom we re estranged (40 years+) died. I lament I cldn t give her good enough points that resonated. I was not going to be the one, unfortunately. Hope she was Pino. Who knows? A broken family from that cult. Regrettably. On a strange twist, her getting in this, caused me to study Apologetics as an avocation. 40 yrs now.
@jackiepowell7513
@jackiepowell7513 Ай бұрын
I did posit once" how many doors do u have to knock on ;untill you 're granted paradise earth"? She ckdnt answer. It was works based. Tried much early on, but to no avail.
@carriec4443
@carriec4443 6 ай бұрын
To the man who interviewing….. Is there somewhere I can watch your testimony?
@ОлексійГриценко-ж7й
@ОлексійГриценко-ж7й 8 ай бұрын
Please add Russian subtitles to this video.
@BeroeanVoices
@BeroeanVoices 8 ай бұрын
@user-qd4ex9ln3d - Please try now. I think the Russian subtitles should be working.
@ОлексійГриценко-ж7й
@ОлексійГриценко-ж7й 8 ай бұрын
@@BeroeanVoices In general, subtitles are not available in this video, but are available in others.
@jackiepowell7513
@jackiepowell7513 Ай бұрын
" always have a ready answer" , kjv. Sounds like her critical thinking and this site, ( HS) saved her. The elders had no answer but " resolve these ques". ???
@ИвановКоля-л8ц
@ИвановКоля-л8ц 8 ай бұрын
О какой цитате из Британской энциклопедии речь и и из какой публикации на 14:45?
@jornandersen
@jornandersen 8 ай бұрын
Yes would be interesting to know.
@Dottiesmith1958
@Dottiesmith1958 8 ай бұрын
I keep trying to post links to the organizations article and the encyclopedia’s article and also a video but it keeps getting taken down. I’m not sure how else I can post it so that it will stay up.
@Dottiesmith1958
@Dottiesmith1958 8 ай бұрын
From the EB: “The English word Easter, which parallels the German word Ostern, is of uncertain origin. One view, expounded by the Venerable Bede in the 8th century, was that it derived from Eostre, or Eostrae, the Anglo-Saxon goddess of spring and fertility. This view presumes-as does the view associating the origin of Christmas on December 25 with pagan celebrations of the winter solstice-that Christians appropriated pagan names and holidays for their highest festivals. Given the determination with which Christians combated all forms of paganism (the belief in multiple deities), this appears a rather dubious presumption. There is now widespread consensus that the word derives from the Christian designation of Easter week as in albis, a Latin phrase that was understood as the plural of alba (“dawn”) and became eostarum in Old High German, the precursor of the modern German and English term. The Latin and Greek Pascha (“Passover”) provides the root for Pâques, the French word for Easter”. From the organization’s article: Name: The Encyclopædia Britannica says: “The English name Easter is of uncertain origin; the Anglo-Saxon priest Venerable Bede in the 8th century derived it from the Anglo-Saxon spring goddess Eostre.” Others link it to Astarte, the Phoenician fertility goddess who had the Babylonian counterpart Ishtar. In my interview, I initially recalled it coming from the Watchtower. However, when trying to find the material again, I realized it was from an article entitled “What Does the Bible Say About Easter?” I’m not trying to make the argument that the specific material the GB put in the article was wrong. Just that they did not properly quote the entire piece (also, they paraphrased and put it in quotation marks) so that the reader could come to their own objective conclusion on the matter. They only used the information that supported their position. When I read that, I felt like they lied. That’s when I decided to more thoroughly research the things they would say either in print or video, to make sure they were being completely transparent. When I did that, I realized they cherry-pick many things (including Bible verses) and outright lie at times. Many times they will also say things like “A scholar said, or some scholars say…” which only made me more suspicious, because I couldn’t even verify the source. Gerrit Lösch does a good job explaining what a lie actually is in a talk on their website, entitled “Be a Champion of truth”. I believe what they did in this article about Easter falls into the GB’s definition of lying. Timestamp 2:51-3:46
@ИвановКоля-л8ц
@ИвановКоля-л8ц 8 ай бұрын
Спасибо. Это очень хороший пример недобросовестности авторов материалов СтБ @@Dottiesmith1958
@kerrydwyer1879
@kerrydwyer1879 5 ай бұрын
Jesus said 2or 3 gathered together in my name and their I am in their midst.(😊you just mentioned the Samaritan lady-great.. Acts 17 is good to read too. Acts 1:6-8(only Father knows the times)( & Jesus saidonly Father knows the day and hour..Butwt mags wrote Jesus would know...More lies. I hope you cancergoes ok.Its right through our family.Im so sorry. X
@CDawson28
@CDawson28 7 ай бұрын
Not believing in the Trinity is a “good foundation of truth” ?!
@BeroeanVoices
@BeroeanVoices 7 ай бұрын
@CDawson28- The trinity is a false doctrine, something made up by pagan Roman emperors. The trinity is taught by man made religions with a history of burning people at the stake and tortured true Christians. It is not a teaching of the Christ and misleads people about the true meaning of being a child of God.
@CDawson28
@CDawson28 7 ай бұрын
That is fundamentally untrue. I respect your ex-JW ministry, but I would encourage you not to blaspheme God by claiming the Godhead is pagan. Just because pagans were polytheists or claimed to believe in triune gods, doesn’t make the Father, Son, and Spirit any less of a trinity. Don’t believe this JW lie.
@BeroeanVoices
@BeroeanVoices 7 ай бұрын
@@CDawson28 It is the teaching of the trinity that is blasphemous and has wicked origins. The Arian controversy is a prime example of the Church being split in half, and only being forced into unity by the interference of a tyranical Emperor (whether that in support of Arianism or Trinitarianism): "By the 350s it [Arianism] had apparently succeeded in winning over a substantial majority of bishops and was close to becoming accepted Christian dogma… For forty years after Arius’s death the controversy that bears his name, inflamed by complex interconnections of Church and State, would continue to trouble the Homan world…." - When Jesus became God: The Struggle to Define Christianity during the Last Days of Rome, Richard E. Rubenstein "Constantine himself presided, actively guiding the discussions, and personally proposed . . . the crucial formula expressing the relation of Christ to God in the creed issued by the council . . . Overawed by the emperor, the bishops, with two exceptions only, signed the creed, many of them much against their inclination… The show of agreement pleased Constantine, who had no understanding of the theological issues, but in fact there was no unanimity at Nicaea... for more than 40 years after the death of Constantine, Arianism was actually the official orthodoxy of the Eastern Empire". - Encyclopedia Britanica
@CDawson28
@CDawson28 7 ай бұрын
@BeroeanVoices Your point is not at all based on Scripture. In John 14:10, Jesus says, “I am in the Father and the Father is in me.” 2 Corinthians 3:17 says “Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom.” These are just two passages that signify three distinct people within the Godhead. There are so many more that make the distinction between Father, Son, and Spirit while relating them to each other as God. The Trinity is not blasphemous, and no amount of citing from the encyclopedia will make it so. I will pray for all JWs and exJWs who continue to believe this lie which comes straight from the pit of hell. All glory to God the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost. Jesus was not a created being. He is Lord.
@CDawson28
@CDawson28 7 ай бұрын
@beroeanvoices I’d also like to ask, do you believe Jesus Christ to be our Savior? Of course! So, then, why in Isaiah 43:11 does the Lord say, “I, even I, am the Lord, and besides me there is no savior.” How could Jesus be the Savior if God is the only Savior? The only way would be if both Father and Son were in fact God the Savior. Further in Isaiah 44:6, He says, “I am the First and I am the last.” Famously, in Revelation 22:13, Jesus says, “I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End, the First and the Last.” So, is Jesus lying or is the OT God lying, according to your belief?
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