test drive on honda pcx 150 scooter roller 10g vs 16g vs24g petrol consumption per km.

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@MethmalDhananjaya
@MethmalDhananjaya 2 жыл бұрын
So Its Basically You will get better Torque/Acceleration, but less top speed/HP with Lighter ones. Also You'll get higher Top Speed/HP, but less Torque/Acceleration with Heavier ones. Have to give some credits for the effort you put into make this video and for the effort in Editing. Great Job. Don't Stop.
@MBPATENTS
@MBPATENTS 2 жыл бұрын
m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/oZfapH6flraInNk for more final here is this video ball weight has nothing to do with acceleration or top speed it has to do with fuel consumption. Thank you very much for your kind words!!!
@aruba5269
@aruba5269 2 жыл бұрын
Yup but it only adds up around +2-5km/h, and it also increases the time (a lot) to achive maximum speed. To be honest, heavy roller isnt worthy at all, except if you looking for comfort on low rpm *srry for my bad english tho xd
@BelfastBiker
@BelfastBiker Жыл бұрын
@@MBPATENTS so, the only change is in fuel consumption, the weight doesn't change acceleration or top speed?
@MBPATENTS
@MBPATENTS Жыл бұрын
It's about consumption and fast acceleration at the start. If the rollers are lighter that is.
@MBPATENTS
@MBPATENTS Жыл бұрын
If you have lighter rollers, you have some consequences at damaging through time! Don't worry, my English aren't good at all
@williamread720
@williamread720 2 жыл бұрын
I changed my stock 15g rollers (on Honda SH150i) to 13g grams here are are my results: First, very significant increase in acceleration (0-50), and gas mileage (fuel consumption) dropped from 47.1 to 39.4. So, better performance and worse gas mileage. No regrets. Used Dr. Pulley brand (Taiwan) and selected those funny shaped (not round) type. Hope this helps.
@MBPATENTS
@MBPATENTS 2 жыл бұрын
Hi william very correct and the new Pallini balls One of the best companies puts very good material plastic try the balls from the PCX 160 new we have to use the same balls you will see great savings and your bike will work much more comfortably
@adriandiw
@adriandiw 2 жыл бұрын
@@MBPATENTS Hi! I have a PCX160 and changed the flyball weights down to 16g with 1000 rpm center spring. I experienced sluggishness in acceleration once speed goes beyond 80kph. It feels like the cvt becomes hesitant in translating the engine's rpm into continuous acceleration. What do you think is the cause? What can you suggest is wrong? It's odometer is only 12,000 km with stock v-belt and clutch spring. Thanks!
@williamread720
@williamread720 2 жыл бұрын
@@adriandiw I would check the condition of the CVT belt itself. Peeps don't realize how key that belt is not only on its driven face but on its edge that "rides" up the curvilinear surface as it changes its gear positioning. So a fresh firm belt makes a big difference. Also make sure your mechanic did leave out the spacing washer (which they too often do) since that little gap make a huge difference on the top end especially. Before you replace your belt (if condition looks oke) try to sand the edges (to flatten them a bit) then once you got it flush and flat try a belt dressing. If that makes a difference (which it probably will) then go get yourself a fresh cvt belt and it might just fix everything for you. Finally, I hear that the Italiant belts (Malossi, Polini) are super rigid as they ride up the CVT slope, but a bit hard to find in Indonesia (except, oddliy, for Vespas)... Good luck!
@imadachache4537
@imadachache4537 Жыл бұрын
thanks for the input, i wonder if maximum top speed decreased when u dropped rollers weight?
@williamread720
@williamread720 Жыл бұрын
@@imadachache4537 It was an unexpected result, but seems both my acceleration 0-50 AND top speed seems to both have increased. Mr. Pulley. Big difference definitely an improvement over stock. New belt also removed ALL vibration and the SH runs smoother and more quietly too. All good. Mksi buat commentnya slamet tahun baru ya.
@jayjayjacosalem
@jayjayjacosalem 9 ай бұрын
I have alot of Dr Pulley. lol.. I have 9G, 11G, 13G and 15G straight.. I play with it all the time.. I still have my stock 19G on my click 160(Honda Vario160).. It consumes 31KM per L when I'm using 9-11G combination but the acceleration really makes me smile 😁😁😁, the engine roar is enjoyable.. If I am cruising with my wife I just use 15/19 combination and I am back to 55km per liter.. Don't be hesitant on exchanging. It's only flyball tuning ❤️ I still achieve the same top speed on any combination.. but like +2 or -2 difference.. 90-95% accurate. The top speed actually differs how high your belt can go higher on your pulley face.. Mine remains stock, so always 128-131kph on actual road.
@MBPATENTS
@MBPATENTS 9 ай бұрын
Hi jayja what you have done with the balls from pcx 1160 is very clever!! simply, the heavier the ball is, it has more economy, here I am, four, what role do balls play in economy and acceleration, first of all, if you want to have more acceleration, you have to remove the stops, you have to put three balls, one on a bench 10 20 and the other if 21 so that the variator opens a little more, the pcx generally has room to reach up to 160 as the engine and its transmission are but it is good that everything does not work. marginally up to 140 is fine I think. Thank you very much!!!
@Stefan_trekkie
@Stefan_trekkie 2 жыл бұрын
In my experience things is different for different scooters and conditions and rider style. I ride Kymco 250 and both the bike with heavier then the original /6x20g stock, 24 on the bike/ and the bike was unrideble in the city. The rpms get so low after acceleration that the bike had no more to give. I machined the rollers insides on my lathe on steps and find out that the 18 grams was perfect. Then I found 17.5 new ones and I am perfectly happy with them. The fueling is better.. 4-4.1 l/100 km with the 24g. and 3.4-3.7 with the 17.5g ... That 24g just needed too much throttle to keep it mid gearing or to accelerate at all.
@MBPATENTS
@MBPATENTS 2 жыл бұрын
You are right, and in the video I say basically the same thing
@MBPATENTS
@MBPATENTS 2 жыл бұрын
m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/h17Tf4N3oLxshJY
@reddysham7556
@reddysham7556 3 ай бұрын
What an unique idea for fuel consumption
@MBPATENTS
@MBPATENTS 2 ай бұрын
there are other ideas!!
@sasknkus5080
@sasknkus5080 2 жыл бұрын
2016 pcx 150 sahibiyim. Yeni aldım. 102 km max hız yapıyordu, varyatörü, kayışı, hava filtresini orjinalleri ile değiştirdim ve hemen 112 km max hıza ulaştı. Bagaları orjinal bıraktım. bana kalırsa bu makina için 112 az. yakıt tüketimim ise gerçekten iyi. 2.3 lerde sanırım
@MBPATENTS
@MBPATENTS 2 жыл бұрын
m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/fmLSaZSNfNiosKc Bu videoya bir göz atın belki beğendiniz?
@Gs1905ultras
@Gs1905ultras 9 ай бұрын
Bendede aynısını oldu 112’de kesiciye girio dediklerini değiştirmiştim ama sende dikkat ettiysen 112’ye çok rahat çıkıyor bence 130 Yapar
@Visionery1
@Visionery1 3 жыл бұрын
I'm past the 'boy racer' age, I don't abuse my baby.🙂 My standard 2012 PCX150 consumption averages at around 2.3l/100km, I'm happy with that.
@MBPATENTS
@MBPATENTS 3 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you call the pcx baby !! I did not have such a video, I think it is useful, thank you for the interest !!!
@itzerisadomeeiot4980
@itzerisadomeeiot4980 2 жыл бұрын
change oil every 1k so your baby can take all abuse and live longer
@itzerisadomeeiot4980
@itzerisadomeeiot4980 2 жыл бұрын
there is no such thing as abuse.. every year a motorcycle have a wear & tear in every parts
@williamread720
@williamread720 Жыл бұрын
@@itzerisadomeeiot4980 I do my oil changes (at Shell) every 2000Km, and use 100% synthetic.
@itzerisadomeeiot4980
@itzerisadomeeiot4980 Жыл бұрын
@@williamread720 we run 1k to 1.5k on oil change so goodluck on 2k but a young scooter can still take the beating
@pietrotraverso6071
@pietrotraverso6071 7 ай бұрын
I put the 16 gram ones or the 24 gram ones, don't mix them
@johnryanasong4511
@johnryanasong4511 11 ай бұрын
Very good experiment! Kudos!
@MBPATENTS
@MBPATENTS 11 ай бұрын
Hi Johnry thank you very much!!!!
@chauvoduy9350
@chauvoduy9350 2 жыл бұрын
For my experienced: you can adjust the roller weight +/- 1g( compare with stock) for best result. Too light: lost max speed, lost power cause belt slip and vibrate. Too heavy: long time to get maxspeed but lost take off power. Maybe damaged clutch shoe because it engaged at high RPM!
@adriandiw
@adriandiw 2 жыл бұрын
How does lighter roller weights cause belt slip? Is it also possible that the clutch lining slips at high speeds? I went 3g below with each flyball and experiences hesitation on acceleration once speed goes beyond 80+ kph. What can be the cause?
@MBPATENTS
@MBPATENTS Жыл бұрын
here You're not telling us something right or you haven't done something right???
@stavrosfilippakis5098
@stavrosfilippakis5098 2 ай бұрын
Hi! Thank you for your video. I have the Sh150i '22 and im now going to change the rollers with Pulley 16gr. I dont know the stock weight and i choose this because was the heavier for mine dimensions. Im driving on long roads at 90-100 what are you suggesting?
@MBPATENTS
@MBPATENTS 2 ай бұрын
Hi stavros lihat video saya sebelumnya tentang berhenti dari variator, apakah mesin bekerja, mana yang lebih senyap, jarak tempuhnya lebih jauh, jauh lebih baik jika melaju dan jika Anda melaju dengan 100 kilometer, Anda akan melaju dengan 125, saya yakin Anda akan menjadi sangat bahagia
@AMDGuy88
@AMDGuy88 7 ай бұрын
My Ghina GY6 which is a 200cc (Supposedly) but on the badge reads 168cc with 12 grams is my sweet spot, i can go 85 miles (Aggressive throttle) and i can reach about 100 miles if i coast it like if im going for economy on a full tank that cost me $4 to fill up. Acceleration improved from the stock heavy weight it had on from Ghina factory. Top speed i hit on the highway was 62 MPH, and from zero to about 30 mph if i hold down the throttle would be in like 5-6 sec
@MBPATENTS
@MBPATENTS 6 ай бұрын
to reach these miles you have to experiment with the variator I have no idea I have never seen such a variator for the particular bike you have but there is always a possibility that they will reach and if so you only have to do with the transmission thanks for the power you have
@MilanGilgames
@MilanGilgames 2 жыл бұрын
lighter pulley=faster acceleration=more fuel consumption=less miles travelled with full tank
@MBPATENTS
@MBPATENTS 2 жыл бұрын
correct in the kilometers, they have not done the weight from the balls, it has to do with the step and the variator.
@itzerisadomeeiot4980
@itzerisadomeeiot4980 2 жыл бұрын
no no just modify your engine and a good racing ecu will do the job anu size pulley will give you power and proper gear size will help the job done
@MBPATENTS
@MBPATENTS Жыл бұрын
But here I test the balls Depending on how heavy they are, what is the economy, how does the engine start, does it take a long time, what beers to put in if the other person wants it for trips, did you get her to put this in, I explain here, no, acceleration has nothing to do with it, it's successful
@Aditya-iv8bz
@Aditya-iv8bz 12 күн бұрын
I have rusi flair which flyball is good for good gas consumption how much grams flyball is recommended
@VictorVDSBRICOdTODO
@VictorVDSBRICOdTODO 2 жыл бұрын
Buenísimo el vídeo, gracias
@MBPATENTS
@MBPATENTS 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Victor thanks!!!
@jerbparagas3924
@jerbparagas3924 10 ай бұрын
Heavy = High Gear ration = low engine rev but fast Light = Low gear ratio = low speed high torque/acceleration If your body weight is heavy, go for lighter one
@MBPATENTS
@MBPATENTS 10 ай бұрын
You are very right!!! 😉
@ChengDIY
@ChengDIY 3 жыл бұрын
Helpful tips . Keep it up bro
@MBPATENTS
@MBPATENTS 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Cheng DIY!!
@vongsakra253919
@vongsakra253919 2 жыл бұрын
Can I spray WD40 silicone spray on the rollers to make them run smooth?
@MBPATENTS
@MBPATENTS 2 жыл бұрын
Hi sakra vong You'll put in very little but it will last 2 days at most, it really works better right your thinking!!
@vongsakra253919
@vongsakra253919 2 жыл бұрын
@@MBPATENTS I haven't tried it yet. Maybe I'm just doing cleaning and reinstating.
@endurobotnik
@endurobotnik Жыл бұрын
Spalanie moze wieksze, ale czuc ze mocniejszy, bardziej zwazy i lepiej przyspiesza oczywiscie nie mozna przesadzic i dac za lekkich rolek bo to nie bedzie jechal
@MBPATENTS
@MBPATENTS Жыл бұрын
scooters play a lot in consumption, that is, removing the stops and going from 110 140 kilometers per hour, this is a great rest for the engine, it burns less if it accelerates faster, again it burns less depending on what everyone wants to do
@angel_yt5288
@angel_yt5288 12 күн бұрын
Καλησπέρα φίλε μου, έχω ένα pcx 125 2022 και θέλω να το ξυπνήσω. Έχεις να προτείνεις κάτι αξιόπιστο; Στην αντιπροσωπεία μου λένε αστο μην ασχολείσαι..
@christianpaulroldan4010
@christianpaulroldan4010 Жыл бұрын
Thats how i hink about those balls. I put the heaviest on mine, and gained acceleration, less dragging and more response. .
@MBPATENTS
@MBPATENTS Жыл бұрын
to what you say, thank you for your comments with heavier balls It is impossible to accelerate better than light ones Especially if it is pcx?
@st.m.6187
@st.m.6187 Жыл бұрын
Πολύ καλός φίλε... είδα ότι είσαι και Έλληνας... μπράβο...
@MBPATENTS
@MBPATENTS Жыл бұрын
Σ ευχαριστώ st.m.
@st.m.6187
@st.m.6187 Жыл бұрын
@@MBPATENTS θα σε χρειαστώ είμαι από επαρχία .. είδα εισαι Αθήνα έχω ένα pcx 21.. full led.. και λέω να το ζωηρεψω λίγο σε βρήκα στο fb ίσως κάποια στιγμή να έρθουμε σε επαφή
@rmadayah7990
@rmadayah7990 2 жыл бұрын
Nice review bro!!!!
@MBPATENTS
@MBPATENTS 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much!!!!
@apachirajaa
@apachirajaa 3 жыл бұрын
What is finally u say. Which one is best for picup and milage??
@MBPATENTS
@MBPATENTS 3 жыл бұрын
Hi M Raja, 24g.
@myplaguesify
@myplaguesify 3 жыл бұрын
i have pcx 160 with 19grams stock roller weight would you recommend going to 20grams or 18 grams? or stay with stock weight?
@MBPATENTS
@MBPATENTS 3 жыл бұрын
+myplaguesify Depending on what gold you want it for long distances (travel) and short distance (city)?
@myplaguesify
@myplaguesify 3 жыл бұрын
@@MBPATENTS good acceleration and less gas consume or a combination 3x3 perhaps? what would you recomend?
@MBPATENTS
@MBPATENTS 3 жыл бұрын
+myplaguesify Unfortunately, these 2 do not go together if you put 16g and the 6 roller the scooter will have a good start, you will reach 100km much faster and the consumption will be higher. If you put 6 roller 22g it will be economical in consumption it will not have started well. Do not forget to subscribe. !! thanks
@myplaguesify
@myplaguesify 3 жыл бұрын
@@MBPATENTS thank you and subscribed
@myplaguesify
@myplaguesify 3 жыл бұрын
@@MBPATENTS sir how about combining 17 grams and 19grams?
@arwindersingh5035
@arwindersingh5035 7 ай бұрын
Hello I have 2021 Pcx . Which roollers you recommend.
@MBPATENTS
@MBPATENTS 7 ай бұрын
Hi arwinders if you are doing short distances in the city keep the 16 grams if you are traveling put the 19 grams from the pcx 1060 if you want to play games and you have uphill and you want a little more lean you are overweight over 9 kg put the balls 10 grams depending on case
@shadowphantom2567
@shadowphantom2567 2 жыл бұрын
What weight rollers does the PCX come with stock from the factory?
@MBPATENTS
@MBPATENTS 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Shadow 16 g is factory
@mateoseggonidis
@mateoseggonidis Жыл бұрын
Hi my friend... I have a nexus 500 2005 model stock... What are the stock rollers and what is the best to put... Thanks...
@MBPATENTS
@MBPATENTS Жыл бұрын
after rolls It's a little strange if you move around the city the 16 is fine for example the factory takes it if you're for travel you should put heavier if you're for playing games you should put lighter Depending on how much you weigh how much you need and what kind of work you do depending on what everyone wants to do
@mateoseggonidis
@mateoseggonidis Жыл бұрын
@@MBPATENTS thanks mate...
@kingdavidtaidawei
@kingdavidtaidawei 11 ай бұрын
Lighter the rollers, faster the acceleration? But more fuel consumption?
@MBPATENTS
@MBPATENTS 11 ай бұрын
You are very right
@zyrekzgaming
@zyrekzgaming Жыл бұрын
i have PCX 160. Im eyeing for 6x 16g my weight is 106kg will this apply as well? Thank you for this video
@MBPATENTS
@MBPATENTS Жыл бұрын
Yes, after 16gr you will see something But you will also need to put a harder spring back for the whole system to work correctly Thank you for your interest!!!
@zyrekzgaming
@zyrekzgaming 11 ай бұрын
​@@MBPATENTS do you have any idea for the springs? Thanks
@SriKutty-wg6it
@SriKutty-wg6it Жыл бұрын
One of best the interesting concept Respect for your hard work 🎉🎉🎉
@MBPATENTS
@MBPATENTS Жыл бұрын
Hi Sri kutty thank you very much!!!!
@aliakbulut740
@aliakbulut740 10 күн бұрын
GUZEL.TANK YOU..RUHİ USTA
@fawazguerra2612
@fawazguerra2612 3 жыл бұрын
Nice video brooo
@MBPATENTS
@MBPATENTS 3 жыл бұрын
+Fawaz Guerra thank you very much😉
@thanghuynh8031
@thanghuynh8031 8 ай бұрын
May i ask you a question? What is your center spring and clutch spring?
@MBPATENTS
@MBPATENTS 8 ай бұрын
Hi @thanghuynh8031 it's the yellow one!
@nikosm.960
@nikosm.960 Жыл бұрын
Καλησπέρα φίλε. Έχω ένα pcx 150 του '13. Έβαλα από μπίλιες , dr pulley 14gr (δεν θυμάμαι ο μάστορας τι μου είπε ότι ήταν οι προηγούμενες μπίλιες ) . Πολύ καλύτερη επιτάχυνση, αυξήθηκε 5km η τελική (από 115 σε 120 κοντερισια) , όμως η κατανάλωση αυξήθηκε κατά 0.3 , δηλαδή από 2.5 σε 2.8 . Μου είχε προτείνει ο μάστορας να βάλω μισές μισές μπίλιες (όπως εσύ με το 16/24) αλλά προτίμησα 14 dr επειδή πίστευα ότι εκτός επιτάχυνσης και τελικής θα έχω καλύτερη κατανάλωση. Δεδομένου ότι κάνω πολλά χιλιόμετρα και σε ταξίδι , αξίζει να βάλω πιο βαριές μπίλιες(πχ 22) ή ανάμεικτες (16/24) ώστε να κατεβάσω κατανάλωση;
@MBPATENTS
@MBPATENTS Жыл бұрын
Καλιτερα να πάρεις μπιλιες 19γ απο pcx 160 τ 21 θα δεις μεγάλη διαφορά στα καύσιμα και πολλά άλλα εαν αφερεις κ τα στοπ απο το βαριαντορ m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/fmLSaZSNfNiosKc πας αλλού εγώ με ένα γέμισμα βγάζω 300 με 315 χλμ
@nikosm.960
@nikosm.960 Жыл бұрын
@@MBPATENTS με το ρεζερβουάρ των 5.9 λίτρων ?
@ismailyilmaz9331
@ismailyilmaz9331 Жыл бұрын
Hello, how many grams would you recommend for the 2014 model 150 pcx? Thank you
@MBPATENTS
@MBPATENTS Жыл бұрын
the engine and the transmission are the same depending on what you use it for, that is, if you want it for a long time, you are fine at 16 grams, if you are for travel, you should be heavier, if it is for games, put 10 grams
@herisonmesquita173
@herisonmesquita173 8 ай бұрын
Qual a velocidade máxima com roletes de 24g.? Desde já agradeço bom vídeo..👍
@MBPATENTS
@MBPATENTS 8 ай бұрын
Hi heriso o peso da bola não afeta as velocidades, o quanto ela agarra, mas afeta o variador e a centrífuga, se você remover as paradas do variador, a velocidade aumentará
@MBPATENTS
@MBPATENTS 8 ай бұрын
m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/fmLSaZSNfNiosKc
@gh4798
@gh4798 2 жыл бұрын
What is the best Suzuki 100cc bike?
@MBPATENTS
@MBPATENTS 2 жыл бұрын
Take a look at what it describes
@АнтонМель-н1ц
@АнтонМель-н1ц 2 ай бұрын
Спасибо за видео. Очень познавательно 🎉Рсх TOP!
@MBPATENTS
@MBPATENTS 2 ай бұрын
Thanks!!!
@PasssssioneF1
@PasssssioneF1 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this beautyfull video. I buyed used my pcx 150 and i found 18g rollers (44,4 km/l very precise). Do you know the weight of the original rollers? (16g or 18). Now i'm trying 6x22g rollers. I did just 100 km, but consumption is bad: about 37km/l. Thanks again for this video.
@MBPATENTS
@MBPATENTS 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Utente I factory roller is 16 grams 150cc from 160cc the new pcx is 19 grams the heavier i roller the more economical it becomes. Thank you for your attention Don't forget to do subscribe!!!
@Buggy_crossguild
@Buggy_crossguild 2 жыл бұрын
I am PCX Indonesia 🙏🏻
@MBPATENTS
@MBPATENTS 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Si Rakyat Indonesia, one of the most beloved countries and you drive the king of the scooter PCX!!!
@edwardlorenz3437
@edwardlorenz3437 Жыл бұрын
en iyi performans hangisi
@MBPATENTS
@MBPATENTS Жыл бұрын
Hi edward is 16g
@edwardlorenz3437
@edwardlorenz3437 Жыл бұрын
@@MBPATENTS 💥👍
@hgffhkjcxdejjjkikjgdse
@hgffhkjcxdejjjkikjgdse 9 ай бұрын
where did you buy that 24g flyball?
@MBPATENTS
@MBPATENTS 9 ай бұрын
i made them i added a round iron
@sfak5
@sfak5 3 жыл бұрын
Another interesting video.. What weight are the original Honda rollers?
@MBPATENTS
@MBPATENTS 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Sfak3 thanks! The average 16 grams
@sfak5
@sfak5 3 жыл бұрын
@@MBPATENTS Ευχαριστώ! Thanks.
@MBPATENTS
@MBPATENTS 3 жыл бұрын
+Sfak3 τώρα σε κατάλαβα πιος είσαι! ειναι 16γ.
@sasknkus5080
@sasknkus5080 2 жыл бұрын
18.5 gr
@Buggy_crossguild
@Buggy_crossguild 2 жыл бұрын
My country is 17 grams
@teknolojikevrim
@teknolojikevrim 2 жыл бұрын
what are the dimensions of the belt you use ? and what is its brand ?
@MBPATENTS
@MBPATENTS 2 жыл бұрын
It's the original that the pcx already has
@celaride9580
@celaride9580 7 ай бұрын
Nexus 300 Best is 16g roller and polini variomat?
@MBPATENTS
@MBPATENTS 6 ай бұрын
Hi celari I can't understand you, please explain a little more in detail if you need any help?
@DavidCholoyashvili
@DavidCholoyashvili 3 ай бұрын
How many grams do you recommend for a 125cc BS6 engine? ))
@MBPATENTS
@MBPATENTS 2 ай бұрын
how many grams are the factory ones?
@unplannedtripz9301
@unplannedtripz9301 Жыл бұрын
I have suzuki 125 i need top speed what kind of rollers should i use?
@MBPATENTS
@MBPATENTS Жыл бұрын
You have to remove the stops from variator!
@stavrosfilippakis5098
@stavrosfilippakis5098 2 ай бұрын
Διαβαζοντας τα σχολια ειδα οτι εισαι Έλληνας! Θα ηθελα ναε βοηθησεις. Εχω ένα Sh150i του '22 και δε ξερω τι εργοστασιακά φοράει. Θελω να του βαλω πιο βαριά, αλλα δε μπορώ να βρω πουθενα διάσταση 20x15 24gr οπως αυτα που δοκιμασες
@MBPATENTS
@MBPATENTS 2 ай бұрын
Σταύρο λογικά θα φοράς μπίλιες τα ίδια με το pcx γιατί ίδιος κινητήρας είναι παρόλο τι έχει δισκόφρενο και τα καινούργια sh αν είναι το κάτω πενήντα πρέπει να αφορά στα 16 γραμμάρια από μπίλιες εάν βάλεις βάλω από το pcx το 125 η μπίλιες 20 γραμμαρίων είναι 20 * 15 πιστεύω ότι θα σε πολύ ευχαριστημένος όχι 24άρια θα κρεμάσει εντελώς στο μηχανάκι είναι πολύ βαριά δηλαδή από 16 αν είσαι και πας στα 24 θα κρεμάσει εντελώς δεν θα δουλέψει
@denisinvane2904
@denisinvane2904 Ай бұрын
Φίλε μου 20x15x12 φοραει μαμα το 150 του 22, εχω το ίδιο, αν θες να κερδίσεις σε εκκίνηση λιγο σε κατανάλωση και να μην χασεις σε τελική θα βαλεις dr pulley 17x15x12 δηλαδή 3 γραμμάρια λιγότερο και θα εισε άρχοντας
@clivecarrington8814
@clivecarrington8814 Жыл бұрын
I have the 125cc version. Can this information be relative . Thank you for a great video. Loads of labour you had to do for that experiment
@MBPATENTS
@MBPATENTS Жыл бұрын
Hi yes you can apply it thank you for your kind words?
@testerpt5
@testerpt5 3 жыл бұрын
video makes no sense. I too have this 150CC version. What is the referenced litters per 100Km? what is average speed?. I have 3rd party 13g rollers, with Yuminashi variator and stock belt, and screen shows average 2.1L per 100km going 80km/H, this value is when I reset while going 80km/H. Needless to say that fuel consumption reader has a % error, the bike uses more fuel than that. Video conclusions are junk because of used methodology, but the conceptual idea is good. My tank does 270kmh while too often going top speed on bike. I can reach 127kmh on speedometer downhill and 119kmh on flat road. By using its own fuel calculator I should reach 333km (it states 2,4L/100km), yet I dont get even close. I'm still subscribing to the channel :)
@MBPATENTS
@MBPATENTS 3 жыл бұрын
Hi testerpt5 Here I explain what consumption depending on the amount of grams is the roller, I see for myself how they work. The first screen reads the meter with how many km you run and calculates for you through a limit how much you will consume. the roller a month I experimented with it with this video when you try and you will understand what work each ball does. Let's say another theory you have a car that calculates how much consumption on the screen you go at 2 speeds with 2 thousand rpm if it shows you 3.7 per 100km / h and when you are at 5 speed with 2 thousand rpm the screen will show you again 3 , 7 what do you think will consume more in 2 i in 5? With your scooter it calculates based on the screen not with turns.
@MBPATENTS
@MBPATENTS 3 жыл бұрын
+testerpt5 Tell you what, I made this video, we are only talking about scooter, the ball (roller) is heavier than the factory roller 3roller 24 3roller 16g is for them to do many km work trips when the daily routine is with many kilometers consumption is very low the belt withstands the oils more, the engine works comfortably, it has a lot of good, the only bad thing does not start as it should !!! We all know how 16g rollers work. For 10g I have to give you the positives first, it becomes a crazy power scooter with other scooters up to 250cc, the pcx works like a beast !! Negatives I have broken centrifugal eyes 10g consumption is great tremble all plastics Stan at 15000mk I have cut straps and many but
@MBPATENTS
@MBPATENTS 3 жыл бұрын
I will post for you a video where I remove the speedometer step by step. I hope that my answers will be enough. I know you're a subscriber, thank you for the support!
@paulmccarter908
@paulmccarter908 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like 14g rollers would be good for performance and not too bad for economy, and still might not be too hard on the other stock parts.
@lalkurukus
@lalkurukus 11 ай бұрын
Can we use 8 rollers instead of 6?
@MBPATENTS
@MBPATENTS 11 ай бұрын
Hi laklurukus haha you can put polini with 9 balls not 8😉
@Luckpeakytv
@Luckpeakytv Жыл бұрын
Που εισαι να ερθω να το φτιαξω ?
@grit8
@grit8 Ай бұрын
hi if the scooter i have is using 15 grams can i change into 19 grams ?
@hoahuynh1676
@hoahuynh1676 Жыл бұрын
I love the burn tire and the donut part the most 😂😅❤
@MBPATENTS
@MBPATENTS Жыл бұрын
You are doing very well and I would do the same in your position😉
@FNF_TW
@FNF_TW 11 ай бұрын
The 150cc Scooter with 24g is only 104km/h?
@MBPATENTS
@MBPATENTS 11 ай бұрын
Hi FNF the weight does not affect speed, just when they are very light it starts much better and when they are light it starts very smoothly but consumes less petrol
@FNF_TW
@FNF_TW 11 ай бұрын
@@MBPATENTS Theoretically it should be above 110km/h
@iguruhbudisatriyo95
@iguruhbudisatriyo95 Жыл бұрын
please very 🙏 you upload about effect of add O ring 2mm/1,5mm for BOSS Variator. it's can decrease speed or same speed or more top speed. pleaseee🙏🙏
@MBPATENTS
@MBPATENTS Жыл бұрын
It will decrease the speed but you will have beeter movement
@iguruhbudisatriyo95
@iguruhbudisatriyo95 Жыл бұрын
@@MBPATENTS oke2 thanks
@itzerisadomeeiot4980
@itzerisadomeeiot4980 2 жыл бұрын
modify your pulley to over range same with torque drive to get a better performance after that you can bore up / racing rcy ur engine any flyball size will give a better power
@MBPATENTS
@MBPATENTS 2 жыл бұрын
m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/oZfapH6flraInNk see if you
@collidestar
@collidestar 2 ай бұрын
I would like you to test the higher rpm for contra spring/ center spring like 1000 or rpm with the same amount of grams .
@jjlaz828
@jjlaz828 2 жыл бұрын
How about performance which is the best?
@MBPATENTS
@MBPATENTS 2 жыл бұрын
I say in describing the best is 16g general judgment. If you like the video, subscribe thank you!!!
@CorneliusLyngdoh
@CorneliusLyngdoh 6 ай бұрын
Which gram best to used on sr Aprilia 125 cc scooter
@MBPATENTS
@MBPATENTS 5 ай бұрын
the emerges a big difference to use more than 4 grams less than 4 grams there you see a good difference
@ibandarishasyiemlieh9726
@ibandarishasyiemlieh9726 2 жыл бұрын
What can I do to make it faster,n will it make any difference in mileage..I'm late but still reply plzz
@MBPATENTS
@MBPATENTS 2 жыл бұрын
Get 9 gram balls it will go much faster mileage will be the same It won't catch anything more
@MBPATENTS
@MBPATENTS 2 жыл бұрын
for the kilometers above Take a look here m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/pZ7PiphthM2Mec0
@ibandarishasyiemlieh9726
@ibandarishasyiemlieh9726 2 жыл бұрын
@@MBPATENTS thanks alot. Subscribed though!
@ibandarishasyiemlieh9726
@ibandarishasyiemlieh9726 2 жыл бұрын
N one more thing, i live in India,so here we don't get those chamber types of exhaust for scoots,,can we make one or where can I get those?
@GRMEGISTOS
@GRMEGISTOS 8 ай бұрын
Τι κανει ομως στην τελική ταχύτητα και στην επιτάχυνση?
@MBPATENTS
@MBPATENTS 7 ай бұрын
Γιασου GREME ι τελική δεν πειράζετε καθόλου με το βάρος της μπιλιας. Με τα ελαφρά ξεκινά πολύ καλιτερα με τα βαρια πιο ομαλά.
@azza7631
@azza7631 Жыл бұрын
What’s the best start upgrade for the pcx 125
@MBPATENTS
@MBPATENTS Жыл бұрын
Hi azza rollers 10g and a hard spring!!
@bhaihussain6271
@bhaihussain6271 2 ай бұрын
For vespa vxl 150 cc 10 or 15 g is best for top speed.?? I want to reach 120+.. What should i change ??
@MBPATENTS
@MBPATENTS 2 ай бұрын
remove the stops from the variantor see the previous videos that c increase around 30 kilometers in the pcx I believe will be a good solution
@bhaihussain6271
@bhaihussain6271 2 ай бұрын
@@MBPATENTS i Don't understand 🙈🙈🙈🙈🙈
@B.GLASTWAR
@B.GLASTWAR 2 ай бұрын
@@bhaihussain6271 kzbin.info/www/bejne/fmLSaZSNfNiosKcsi=tQiI3KmwNJ4FxrzD
@Bruno-qu3mh
@Bruno-qu3mh 11 ай бұрын
Pozdrav. Kolika je razlika u ubrzanjima. Jesu li lakse kuglice za brzi start a teze da se vise dobije na krajnoj brzini ?
@MBPATENTS
@MBPATENTS 10 ай бұрын
Hi Bruno dobra godina nije teško provjeriti nema veze s težinom bitova za ubrzanje je druga stvar za ubrzanje. m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/oZfapH6flraInNk Or. m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/pZ7PiphthM2Mec0
@dimitrispswmiadis8685
@dimitrispswmiadis8685 2 жыл бұрын
geia sou file. phra prosfata ena pcx 125 tou 2010 kai exw teliki 100kmh kai mou fenete san na koftarei apo ta 90. den kserw ti mpilies exei.. ti mpilies mou protineis?
@MBPATENTS
@MBPATENTS 2 жыл бұрын
Δεν έχει να κάνει με της μπιες καμια σχέση το πρόβλημα ει στο βαριατορ δεν κλείνει όσο πρέπει η παίρνεις dr. Pulley i κάνεις αυτό m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/fmLSaZSNfNiosKc
@dimitrispswmiadis8685
@dimitrispswmiadis8685 2 жыл бұрын
Euxaristw polu file na sai kala. Posa grammaria prepei na einai to dr. pulley?
@BlackCrown76
@BlackCrown76 Жыл бұрын
I have a chinese made gy6 scooter, original roller weight is 13 grams. I want to preserve the top speed (around 100 kmh) but also to increase acceleration slightly. what roller weight should I get? I dont mind fuel consumption
@MBPATENTS
@MBPATENTS Жыл бұрын
10 grams of marbles are needed m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/mqnMfp1oaN6nqq8
@DennisdeJong
@DennisdeJong Жыл бұрын
Obviously you got better mileage but it's at the cost of power when going uphill.
@MBPATENTS
@MBPATENTS Жыл бұрын
Hi Dennis very correct to what you say, thank you!!!
@edwinp1248
@edwinp1248 Жыл бұрын
​@@MBPATENTSMi Click 125i tiene una gran velocidad final,pero en subida con pasajero se queda,tiene los originales,cuáles me recomiendas
@ikariku
@ikariku 2 жыл бұрын
Hello, great review. What about the top speed?
@MBPATENTS
@MBPATENTS 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Gons the weight plays no role in the final The only thing that plays a role in the final speed is the variator m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/oZfapH6flraInNk
@motoceng
@motoceng 10 ай бұрын
What is the benefit of installing a combi bag? My motorcycle is a 150 cc multi-torque machine, 12 grams to 14 grams are generally used. What if I build a 12 17 or 14 18 3-cylinder cmbine? What will it do for me? Thank you.
@MBPATENTS
@MBPATENTS 10 ай бұрын
It won't start as well, it will be more economical, the belt will have a longer life and the motor will work at lower revs and more, but well, apart from starting, you won't understand the negative, it's too small a difference from the centrifugal if you include the stops well double it because the step gets bigger
@MBPATENTS
@MBPATENTS 10 ай бұрын
You don't need to put 3 14g 3 18g put 6 16g balls I did them because there are no 24g balls on the market if it's like I put 6 20g balls
@motoceng
@motoceng 10 ай бұрын
@@MBPATENTS 4 valve ang makina ko 16.5 hp 17 grams pano kung bumili ako ng Dr Pulley sir meron po akong torque machine meron po syang 14 flat trunks madaming speed hindi po ba magiging dahilan para mawalan ako ng traction sa pulley. nakakaapekto ito sa pinakamataas na bilis?
@ahadshaikh4624
@ahadshaikh4624 10 ай бұрын
Where was the top speed max and acceleration max .?
@MBPATENTS
@MBPATENTS 10 ай бұрын
Hi ahadsha here I am talking about the consumption I am not talking about the maximum you will have.
@andreyg807
@andreyg807 6 ай бұрын
Здравствуй,а на pcx 125 2015 г какую комбинацию роликов посоветуешь для уменьшения расхода?
@MBPATENTS
@MBPATENTS 5 ай бұрын
поставить шарики по 19 грамм от pcx 160 новые думаю делаю у них одинаковые размеры
@seekter-kafa
@seekter-kafa Жыл бұрын
why some people put dual weight rollers (3 + 3 every other)???
@MBPATENTS
@MBPATENTS Жыл бұрын
because it shares the baro center in Maria dor so that it is not eaten on one side but no one can do that in the 9 ball variator
@nanzansarcade
@nanzansarcade Жыл бұрын
I have a yamaha ray zr 125. Do you know which rollers are in it
@MBPATENTS
@MBPATENTS Жыл бұрын
Tell me exactly what you want to do if you put Vaios cylinders the bike will go slower but it will save on gas If you put lighter cylinder in the motorcycle will go better, it will just burn more, consumption will be higher?
@nanzansarcade
@nanzansarcade 11 ай бұрын
​@@MBPATENTSunderstood. Thanks. Thinking of going heavier rollers as most of my rides on highways where I cruse at 70-80kmph.
@josephxanthopoulos
@josephxanthopoulos 10 ай бұрын
Very interesting test. But to tell the truth, I think is better to go closer to manufacture mechanical specs for a lot of reasons.
@amalgamingyt902
@amalgamingyt902 2 жыл бұрын
i need help my aprilia sr160 race gives me ghe lowest mileage maybe12-15 kmpl what roller should i use and are all the rollers compatible with all scooters?
@MBPATENTS
@MBPATENTS 2 жыл бұрын
All the small scooters show 8 to 12 km below the pcx150 is - 8 klm. Put a digital one.
@jovengarcia615
@jovengarcia615 2 жыл бұрын
Where can you buy 24 grams roller. It's hard to search for it online
@MBPATENTS
@MBPATENTS 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Joven there are 3 balls 24 grams and three 16 balls on the internet you will not find such balls if you buy from PCX 160 they are all 19.gr somewhere it falls!!
@azizdeaf2005
@azizdeaf2005 2 ай бұрын
Enak dmn??? Kalo awet irit ya gmn
@advvaibhavvashisht9399
@advvaibhavvashisht9399 2 жыл бұрын
Can I just remove three rollers and let three sit inside the varistor? What will happen then? I will lose half a weight and my scooty is 90CC, Honda activa 2005 model sold in india, top speed is 80km/hr but also has nice pickup already. I want even more pickup, will I lose top speed if there is only three rollers instead of 6?
@MBPATENTS
@MBPATENTS 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Adv I personally have not tried it, but you know that the balls will spoil much faster Also, the Pyrros that is held in the variator will pull very hard, take out some icing and let's see, you will have a very good start. I am waiting for you to tell me the results Well done. Very clever experiment!!
@advvaibhavvashisht9399
@advvaibhavvashisht9399 2 жыл бұрын
@@MBPATENTS Sure thing.
@abdulkadirmarangoz9965
@abdulkadirmarangoz9965 10 ай бұрын
Merhaba honda spanc 110 scotor kaç gram baga tavsiye edersin.. Elinde 10 gram dr. Pulley var iyi olurmu tşk
@MBPATENTS
@MBPATENTS 10 ай бұрын
Hi abdul Mutlu yıllar oyunlar için şehre seyahat etme isteğini kullananlar? ve fabrika topları kaç gram
@abdulkadirmarangoz9965
@abdulkadirmarangoz9965 10 ай бұрын
Fabrika roller 13 gr
@MBPATENTS
@MBPATENTS 10 ай бұрын
Şehirde seyahat ederken nasıl bir karara varırsınız?
@rianalhazen8750
@rianalhazen8750 6 күн бұрын
When you change the size of the roller, the accuracy of the speedometer reading decreases. did you realize it?
@slh0077
@slh0077 3 жыл бұрын
Hello sir, my PCX has vibration while we start riding slowly. I remove clutch and cleaning lubricants still like before. What should I do? Is that my roller is bad? Thank sir
@MBPATENTS
@MBPATENTS 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Lyheang Sar When does it start or when it is idling? I usually reply to those who have subscribed to my channel!!
@slh0077
@slh0077 3 жыл бұрын
Done subscribe sir, When it is idle and when I start rev 0km/h to speed ,it is vibrating. I couldn't find the problem
@MBPATENTS
@MBPATENTS 3 жыл бұрын
+Lyheang Sar So how do you describe it is from the zippers to the centrifugal they do not press properly. Have you recently changed your belt ???
@slh0077
@slh0077 3 жыл бұрын
@@MBPATENTS my PCX got 8000km, I just cleaning all gearbox components, lubricant clutch bearing and put it back together without change anything. The first 100km after clean is good and run smoothly, but then it like before.
@MBPATENTS
@MBPATENTS 3 жыл бұрын
+MB PATENTS Do you just change the belt for me? Ika and I have the same problem from 0 km to 30 km, the scooter starts with vibrations, I changed the zipper and everything worked perfectly. How many km does your scooter have? Normally the dealership says that at 60,000 km you have to change the zipper. I have grabbed the iron that pressed the zippers.
@ivlark1
@ivlark1 5 ай бұрын
Smiles per gallon go up if ur doing local stop and go
@yoelcampos-fb7vz
@yoelcampos-fb7vz Жыл бұрын
Buenas que rodillos debo poner para un motor honda gx160 163cc adaptado
@yoelcampos-fb7vz
@yoelcampos-fb7vz Жыл бұрын
Motor de 3600rpm
@MBPATENTS
@MBPATENTS Жыл бұрын
Hi yoelca you have fallen at best you have 19 gram balls if you put 16 gram balls from PCX 150 cc You will see a difference
@project370z
@project370z Жыл бұрын
How about top speed 16vs 24g ?
@MBPATENTS
@MBPATENTS Жыл бұрын
It has no difference in landfills the difference is that it goes better after 16 grams and after 24 it goes slower more economical with the 24 it burns more the 16 grams
@orvillerayguyos2346
@orvillerayguyos2346 2 жыл бұрын
Does it decreases the top speed sir using lighter roller weights
@MBPATENTS
@MBPATENTS 2 жыл бұрын
No it doesn't affect the top speed but it makes the starring point easier
@filipindobrasilparaomundo4520
@filipindobrasilparaomundo4520 Жыл бұрын
Bom dia , os reletebde 24g e que ela anda mais faz mais de 100km ?
@MBPATENTS
@MBPATENTS Жыл бұрын
o peso da bola não tem nada a ver com a velocidade, mas o que tem a ver com a velocidade é o variador m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/fmLSaZSNfNiosKc
@clarkfox7961
@clarkfox7961 2 жыл бұрын
Personally I think the best thing to do us just leave it alone as you gain one thing and lose another.
@MBPATENTS
@MBPATENTS 2 жыл бұрын
No this modification is all about fuel economy
@mohdnazrijb2446
@mohdnazrijb2446 9 ай бұрын
My skuter vario 150(15g). 121 kmh ......cant i chang my roller (16g) or (14g)...i want toppseed...
@MBPATENTS
@MBPATENTS 9 ай бұрын
Hi mohdan m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/fmLSaZSNfNiosKc this is what you should do
@mohdnazrijb2446
@mohdnazrijb2446 9 ай бұрын
@@MBPATENTS tq
@advanturehunter7210
@advanturehunter7210 2 жыл бұрын
I have 150 scooty and fuel consumption is so much now what can i do
@MBPATENTS
@MBPATENTS 2 жыл бұрын
the lighter the balls you have the more consumption
@gunawansambudi720
@gunawansambudi720 6 ай бұрын
Mantap bang 🙏
@elmehdielhasnaoui316
@elmehdielhasnaoui316 6 ай бұрын
plez sh 125 ? g!!
@rigomontana1028
@rigomontana1028 2 жыл бұрын
I have a 2013 150cc it only go to 70… how can I make it faster?
@MBPATENTS
@MBPATENTS 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Rigo wow Only 70km preferably I hear it pcx is?
@rigomontana1028
@rigomontana1028 2 жыл бұрын
Yes it’s a pcx
@rigomontana1028
@rigomontana1028 2 жыл бұрын
How can I make it faster
@nekrositoh
@nekrositoh 5 ай бұрын
Thats so weird..it shouldnt go that slow..I had the same PCX (2013/150 cc) and it went up to 105 km.
@khaled753
@khaled753 2 жыл бұрын
why havent tries using all 6 rollers to be 24 gramms insted of 3+3
@MBPATENTS
@MBPATENTS 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Khaled then it doesn't start at all Also the centrifugal pulls very hard.
@Mikeb8134
@Mikeb8134 Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@MBPATENTS
@MBPATENTS Жыл бұрын
You're welcome!
@yasrynurianto1990
@yasrynurianto1990 10 ай бұрын
Wow ternyata ada yg lebih gila dari spin saya. Spin saya 21 g rata semua.
@fikriaero9287
@fikriaero9287 9 ай бұрын
Beli dimana bang 21g rata?
@bp-tuningaeroxlc-dd6474
@bp-tuningaeroxlc-dd6474 Жыл бұрын
first test drive you write 3 Rolls 24g and 3 Rolls 16g how do you get them to fit if you have 10g - 16g - 24g where you only use 3 rolls of each in your variator 24g if it has to go up to 3 then it is only 8g rolls you use 3 more which should be 16g in total then it's 5.5g that goes into 16g if it's 3 roles... how do you calculate .... I just saw you wrote in viode in the first test up in the corner 3 rolls 24g 3 rolls 16g I understand that you use 3 roles which together give 24g and then again 3 other roles which together give 16g, but if you calculate it, it doesn't match at all with the numbers you have written... So help me out on the right course again he he ... I know it's me who's wrong about it, but that's because I despise what I described here now... super good video.. but just keep your vario house a little bit cleaner and free of oil ... he he he
@MBPATENTS
@MBPATENTS Жыл бұрын
i use three 16g balls three 24g balls that means i have six 20g balls to be more economical Also There are many combinations with the balls Also balls are connected to the spring back It depends what you want to do if moving around the city, sit at 16 grams or below. If you want it if you are traveling, put 24 grams and 16 grams
@mitsos_306
@mitsos_306 Жыл бұрын
No video is complete without a burnout...!
@MBPATENTS
@MBPATENTS Жыл бұрын
anyway this video explains clearly I don't know if you have any question I can send thank you
@mitsos_306
@mitsos_306 Жыл бұрын
@@MBPATENTS thanks for your time! I've done similar tests with my Honda DIO !
@DarioAllievi
@DarioAllievi 3 ай бұрын
Totale Quindi = Gr. ?
@MBPATENTS
@MBPATENTS 2 ай бұрын
Yes
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